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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:58 AM
Hello to all!

I was checking out all the reviews and +/- comments on the Track-IR made by many of you owners and RBJ included! I took all of it into account and made the plunge to purchase it. It should arrive tomorrow and most likelly I will stay away to the wee hours playing with this new technology to give me an extra immersion into IL2 besides my MS FFB stick!

What recommendations would you current owners give me on my first day, week, years with this device? Here is a shot of my current system:

XP2100
512 MB PC2100 CAS2
SOYO Dragon Plus!
Nvidia Ti4400 128 MB
Sony 21" Flat CRT
MS FFB stick
MS WIN XP PRO SP1
DX 9.0

Your help and comments are appreciated. Thank you!

RBJ, you are welcomed to comment also, I consider you a fellow virtual pilot brother!




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"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"

Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:58 AM
Hello to all!

I was checking out all the reviews and +/- comments on the Track-IR made by many of you owners and RBJ included! I took all of it into account and made the plunge to purchase it. It should arrive tomorrow and most likelly I will stay away to the wee hours playing with this new technology to give me an extra immersion into IL2 besides my MS FFB stick!

What recommendations would you current owners give me on my first day, week, years with this device? Here is a shot of my current system:

XP2100
512 MB PC2100 CAS2
SOYO Dragon Plus!
Nvidia Ti4400 128 MB
Sony 21" Flat CRT
MS FFB stick
MS WIN XP PRO SP1
DX 9.0

Your help and comments are appreciated. Thank you!

RBJ, you are welcomed to comment also, I consider you a fellow virtual pilot brother!




http://fluxout.homestead.com/files/Thx-32x.jpg


"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"

Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:03 AM
Sorry, I'm not doing this again. Search this forum for trackIR threads, especially one started by crazyIvan.



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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:25 AM
Thank you Dexmeister for your recomendation but tried to do a search and can't find the one you mention. Could you please point it out to me?

Thank you.

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"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"

Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:43 AM
Sorry dude, I just spent a really long time looking through each page but can't find it.

Try here worst case:

http://forums.naturalpoint.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:46 AM
Thanks a MILLION Dexmeister!



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Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 07:28 AM
Dexmeister you posted a version of TrackIR software with less restrictive views. Can't find that post now (big surprise!). Would you mind posting it again?

Thanks

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 08:33 AM
milkit

thats right

milkit

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:07 PM
You're gonna love it. The most important thing to do is make sure you install it exactly as the manual says. Basically, install the software FIRST. Reboot and plug TrackIR into USB. Within minutes, you'll be in your cockpit enjoying the simple pleasure of smooth, full FOV panning.

At this point, it's a matter of tweaking for preference. It will take a couple of days before you're finally happy with your setup (ie, distance of TrackIR sensor to your head, dot configuration etc, speed tracking, dead zones..). When you reach that point, it's flight sim gaming nirvana. The game takes on a whole new personality when you're able to smooth pan the entire range of the cockpit by only moving your head 7-10 degrees in any direction. It's smooth and your situational awareness will improve tremendously. You can now remap your HAT switch for other functions. I got mine set (0 degree up and 180 degree down) for incemental zoom in/out. The other HAT switches are used to jump right to 'normal', 'wide', or 'guncam' sites.

Probably the biggest challenge is the dot placement and there are many threads at the natural point website about optimal methods. Some guys are really techy. They don't even use a reflective dot, they use an 'active dot'! It's basically an LED IR. It appearantly tracks a lot better than a reflective dot but I'm having great success with the reflective dot so I'm happy for now. One day,I may download the instructions for making your own LED IR but I'm too happy using it to take time to make one. Good luck.

stubby

ps: the only issue you'll ever have is for those games that don't support 'mouse look'. one you take the plunge and fly with the trackir, it's hard to imagine flying without it.

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:11 PM
air_malik wrote:
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- Dexmeister you posted a version of TrackIR software
- with less restrictive views. Can't find that post
- now (big surprise!). Would you mind posting it
- again?
-


Yes, I would mind posting it, unfortunately. You see, someone from this forum took the liberty of contacting the owner of the server the file was hosted on (me), saying that someone was hosting illegal "warez" on their site. I got a little peeved at that.


BTW, on that "less restricted" view, I played FS2002 with those drivers last night and it's WAY better. TrackIR sometimes stops at a certain unnatural point when you look left and right, but with these beta drivers it works better... Go figure.



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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 12:41 AM
I can get them to you if you need them, just PM me.

JG5_UnKle

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 01:11 AM
I put together a IR LED, It didn't make a large improvement except the TrackIR no longer gets confused by other shiny things. Its' illuminator is turned off so there are no other reflections.



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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 01:24 AM
Hello to all,

Thanks to Dexmeister, I have learned alot!

Tomorrow I will pickup my TrackIR at the local Post Office.

Thanks to all of you for your input!

I found the instructions on how to make the active dot and will make my own with some modification of my own so it can be light/small and productive for TrackIR and you!

Here are the basics to making one:

Some quick info to aid the RadioShack search. Ask for part # 276-143. This is a very nice IR LED with a peak output at 880nm, right were the trackIR wants you to be. If you get this IR LED then I would probably frost it a bit because it has a focused output, you can do this by lightly sanding (400 grit) the LED surface or blunt the end (lens part) of the LED to make it radiate better. You will need 3V of forward voltage to make it light up so just use 2 AAA batteries or a watch cell or similar. Run a min of 50 ohms inline resistance. If you are at the Shack then buy a pack of 50 ohm resistors and a 500ohm(or similar) trim pot. Put them in series so you can play with the brightness of the LED and not burn it out. There are better SMT leds with 160 degree output from Digikey.

After installing the TrackIR and enjoying it's use with IL2:FB I will then start on making and modifying the 'active dot'. Will post pictures of it when completed.

Thanks to all!

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"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"

Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 01:30 AM
Funny and worth mentioning - if I sit in front of my computer with a cigarette (rarely do), it takes control of the trackIR...

Go figure.



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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 02:58 AM
Nikola,

Kada dobijesh Track IR, napishi nam ovde tvoje utiske. Ja chu verovatno da kupim Track IR, kada pronadjem malo vremena (i para) da se poigram sa tom "igrachkicom"!

Pozdrav iz Teksasa,

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:04 AM
stubby wrote::
- you're able to smooth pan the entire range of the cockpit
- by only moving your head 7-10 degrees in any direction.

What are the angle limits? It may give a more physically real feeling to turn your head maybe 45 degrees to see the rearmost FB view. Its difficult while keeping eyes on monitor, but turning to see 5/7 o'clock position was a pain in real fighter cockpit while flying. Also, could this expand the dead zone so you don't have to keep your head quite as motionless when you just wish to see front view?

I can see neck muscles getting tired if you hold your head 45 degrees with eyes to screen. That would hurt after a long while, just like in real cockpit.

thanks



Message Edited on 07/11/0303:07AM by LEXX_Luthor

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 05:08 AM
Homolje,

biti te srpski? ina√¬®e Slovenac?



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"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"

Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 09:52 AM
u dont need recommendations from anyone,simply go to explorer,programs,naturalpoint,and open the manual,scroll down till u find how to set up a combat sim,they take u thru it step by step,and it works perfect.

Lazy_Lester

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 01:29 PM
You can tweak various settings that will force you to turn your head more drastically to see your 5&7 o'clock positions but the more you rotate, the more you run the risk of losing the tracking. I'm not really sure what the extreme view angle is before losing track but I'm pretty sure you could rotate your head close to 20-25 degrees before tracking gets comprised. I narrowed mine done for compfort http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I'm an old man and my neck can no longer twist and extend like a slinky.