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WalSwJan
03-25-2013, 06:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dBtlholeXw
Awesome. :D

Eternal Reward
03-25-2013, 06:08 PM
:o

scottmapex
03-25-2013, 06:09 PM
Was literally just about to post this :D it looks absolutely awesome!!

scottmapex
03-25-2013, 06:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OJT1EGcCelc

Heres the official video on Ubisoft's channel without the subs :)

dex3108
03-25-2013, 06:11 PM
Well that was way better than AC3 :D Raphael Lacoste did it again, art direction is beautiful :D

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 06:12 PM
That was fast..

It looks visually stunning

Eternal Reward
03-25-2013, 06:13 PM
I'm worried......the architecture looks like AC3.....

Goxxi
03-25-2013, 06:13 PM
Wooooooooooooooow this is a already a pornography , best trailer I've seen in my life ; )

Eternal Reward
03-25-2013, 06:16 PM
Can someone translate that limited edition at the end? I think we might get our first look at a MP character.

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 06:16 PM
I'm worried......the architecture looks like AC3.....

Kingston's architecture is similar, but not Havana.

I know it was a short glimpse, but the cities looked quite small to me.

nitres15
03-25-2013, 06:17 PM
i didnīt expect them to release it so soon

andreja110s
03-25-2013, 06:18 PM
Must... buy...

Eternal Reward
03-25-2013, 06:19 PM
Kingston's architecture is similar, but not Havana.

I know it was a short glimpse, but the cities looked quite small to me.

That too.......hopefully we will see more soon.

And if one city is AC3 style, and the other more ACI-R, then I'm ok with it.

scottmapex
03-25-2013, 06:21 PM
That bit where he is crouching in the bushes trying to be all stealthy looks absolutely stunning .. and the bit at the end where he dives into the water.. Wow.

This game is really looking good. Must contain my excitement!!

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 06:21 PM
Not much stealth being showcased. Seems to be another lean towards epic moments and explosions.

Sushiglutton
03-25-2013, 06:21 PM
Must.....not....get.....hyped. But it looks soooo sexy :eek::eek::cool:

rupok2
03-25-2013, 06:22 PM
It looks meh to me. Not nearly as excited as I was for ac3 when they showed footage. And that narration makes it worse, it feels like some blockbuster movie.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 06:22 PM
Ubisoft has decided to spare my Facebook friends the continuous spam of the gameplay trailer reveal sharing crap. Wise choice.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 06:24 PM
I promised I won't hype. Every year I make the sane promise but it's eventually broken every year.

lothario-da-be
03-25-2013, 06:27 PM
Must.....not....get.....hyped. But it looks soooo sexy :eek::eek::cool:
This x100

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 06:30 PM
As for the trailer, underwater gameplay looks mediocre and out of place, but the rest is pretty much traditional hype-creating crap, nothing too enticing to see here.

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 06:32 PM
Meh, hype's quickly died down. I can now see past the pretty visuals and explosions.


As for the trailer, underwater gameplay looks mediocre and out of place, but the rest is pretty much traditional hype-creating crap, nothing too enticing to see here.

Agreed, looks like nothing more than QTE based animal combat and opening a few treasure chests

dex3108
03-25-2013, 06:35 PM
Also one big difference is that trailer is 1080p :D I think that this is first time that AC gameplay trailer is 108-p XD

MasterAssasin84
03-25-2013, 06:35 PM
WOOOOOW WOOOOOW !! the game looks amazing and awesome in every sense i liked the look of Kingston !! and quote me if i am wrong but was Edward kenway wrestling with sharks ?

pirate1802
03-25-2013, 06:37 PM
But this is a pirate game, there will be no land combat, parkour and all!

Rugterwyper32
03-25-2013, 06:38 PM
Havana should be a really fun city to roam around in, really looking forward to that. Kingston has potential if the team takes a few liberties with the design at turns it into a nice location to roam around in. And nothing on Nassau yet, but it should be interesting. I like how we'll get some good variety of locations in this game, as much as I loved AC3 I felt it lacked that variety. Part of why the Black Creek area in the frontier was one of my favorites, felt so different from the rest.

Also yay tree-running.

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 06:38 PM
Agree with top comment


"Sooo... AC3 with more water?"

1. Once again, he doesnt look like the boxart
2. He has Connors moveset
3. Cities look weird.
4. So much freaking water!

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 06:38 PM
Also one big difference is that trailer is 1080p :D I think that this is first time that AC gameplay trailer is 108-p XD

I think they finally listened to the complaints about the terrible quality of the gameplay trailers/demos

Sushiglutton
03-25-2013, 06:40 PM
As for the trailer, underwater gameplay looks mediocre and out of place, but the rest is pretty much traditional hype-creating crap, nothing too enticing to see here.

This is unfortunately true :(. Not many seconds of that trailer was real gameplay. Combat was all kill-animations, underwater looked scripted/QTE-ish, and character interactions were all cutscenes. So we still know absolutely nothing about what lessons the devs have learned from AC3.

pirate1802
03-25-2013, 06:40 PM
3. Cities look weird.


I don't get this one.

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 06:43 PM
La Habana looks awesome!!!!!!:cool:

Sushiglutton
03-25-2013, 06:43 PM
2. He has Connors moveset

Thought so too. The way he jumps between buildings for example. I was expecting that though since he is a Kenway and Ubi re-did all animations for AC3, which was a massive work ofc. I think it's ok if they keep many of the animations tbh, because it's unreasonable to redo thousands of animations for every game. There are more important things to focus on.

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 06:45 PM
On a scale of AC1 to AC3, how do you think AC4 will be?

pirate1802
03-25-2013, 06:45 PM
La Habana looks awesome!!!!!!:cool:

Nah it looks weird. xD

/sarcasm

silvermercy
03-25-2013, 06:47 PM
Never thought I'd be saying that but I'm now even more excited with AC4 than I was with AC3!
It gives me an AC1 feel and I also like how more colourful it seems.

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 06:48 PM
On a scale of AC1 to AC3, how do you think AC4 will be?

I don't get the scale, is it supposed to be getting progessively worse? Or is it which game it has/will have most likeliness to?

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 06:49 PM
I wonder if people will actually wait to see some gameplay before pre-ordering. That would be the smartest thing to do, right?

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 06:49 PM
I hate how he has the same moveset though, I just find it lazy. Take an extra year developing the game and redo movesets. He isnt going to freaking move the same way as Connor. The sea still looks stupid and blocky to me, how it moves. The only think I was impressed with was the beach clip where it showed the foliage. Although this is PC mind you.

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 06:49 PM
I wonder if people will actually wait to see some gameplay before pre-ordering. That would be the smartest thing to do, right?

Smart? What is this "smart"?

Sushiglutton
03-25-2013, 06:51 PM
I don't get this one.

Only negative is that Kingston looks a lot like AC3 cities (@0:35). If you look at the church tower in the background, the slope down to the right, that thing that allows you to jump around corners (slightly to the left of the center).

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 06:51 PM
Nah it looks weird. xD

/sarcasm
Indeed haha

That city has ALOT of potential!

In terms of size, well Rome is the biggest so far, however I found it dull and boring! Other than that, well I hope the mission design to be less linear than in AC3.

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 06:51 PM
Smart? What is this "smart"?

Just as I feared; "​Ubisoft announce record number of pre-orders for ACIV:BF"

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 06:54 PM
AC2īs Ezio and Altair had the same set of movements.....No one complained then....

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 06:54 PM
I don't get the scale, is it supposed to be getting progessively worse? Or is it which game it has/will have most likeliness to?
The former yes.


AC2īs Ezio and Altair had the same set of movements.....No one complained then....
It's a stupid complaint, changing all animations would be ******ed, replacing a few would be apt.

pirate1802
03-25-2013, 06:54 PM
And the most important thing (which nobody pointed out yet.. Ubi forums, I am disappoint.) he still doesn't have holsters for his pistols. -_____________-

silvermercy
03-25-2013, 06:54 PM
Any news on something equivalent to Freedom Edition? I want an Edward statue with my pre-order if there is one (other than those McFarlane figures).

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 06:55 PM
Just as I feared; "​Ubisoft announce record number of pre-orders for ACIV:BF"

"Idiot fans hyped by seeing water in game and buy blindly"

Mattaio19
03-25-2013, 06:58 PM
Indeed haha

That city has ALOT of potential!

In terms of size, well Rome is the biggest so far, however I found it dull and boring! Other than that, well I hope the mission design to be less linear than in AC3.

Yes dude, we know rome is boring, so you keep on saying -__-

Subject J80
03-25-2013, 06:59 PM
Everything looks good, not excitingly good but good. However, yet again, no holsters and weapons just hanging off Edward. 6th game and we still have this. Bugs me.
First AC game that I haven't been really excited about and I don't know why.....
This time last year I was at fever pitch to see some of AC3. Strange. I'll wait and see more I guess??

D.I.D.
03-25-2013, 07:00 PM
I'm 99% sure that's Ralph Ineson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0408591/?ref_=tt_cl_t18) doing the voiceover. I hope they've got him in the game too, good actor.

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 07:00 PM
The former yes.


It's a stupid complaint, changing all animations would be ******ed, replacing a few would be apt.

A very dumb complaint indeed.

Having alike movements allow them to work in another and more "required" sutff, such as mission design and bugs...Besides, Connorīs mechanics are awesome!

silvermercy
03-25-2013, 07:01 PM
Ah this is the one I'll be getting most probably...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/483762_504877726240096_194649859_n.jpg

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 07:01 PM
The former yes.

Based on your scale I'd say AC3.(I personally don't think it's the worst in the series though)

Sushiglutton
03-25-2013, 07:01 PM
Just as I feared; "​Ubisoft announce record number of pre-orders for ACIV:BF"

Would be shocked if that happened. I think AC3 hurt the brand a lot. If you look at the comments on the trailer and/or any game site, the atmosphere is different compared to when AC3 was announced. People are pretty much hating all over the place. I think this will translate in reduced sales. Maybe they will go back to 7M like Revelation sold (compared to >12M for AC3).

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 07:01 PM
Everything looks good, not excitingly good but good. However, yet again, no holsters and weapons just hanging off Edward. 6th game and we still have this. Bugs me.
First AC game that I haven't been really excited about and I don't know why.....

Because there is nothing to be excited about.

No ship multiplayer
Same moveset
Same graphics
Cities look "okay" from what I saw

Like seriously, what is there to be excited about? They already pushed Naval up our arses in AC3 because it was new, now we have a pirate game? That trailer was 90% water and 10% beef. There was nothing to get excited about at all. Also, no holsters = Lazy! Its like not having a sheath for your sword. Altair had one in AC1. AC FREAKING 1.

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 07:02 PM
"Idiot fans hyped by seeing water in game and buy blindly"

"​Melodramatic narrator and explosions cause fans to go wild. Pre-orders through the roof"

LoyalACFan
03-25-2013, 07:03 PM
Looks great! My only complaint is that I saw quite a few reused combat animations... I don't mind the free-running ones being reused, but the combat ones should be mostly new.

AND THE LACK OF A FREAKING HOLSTER. I MEAN... COME ON.


Anyway, what a nice surprise for a Monday!

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 07:04 PM
Well, the fan reception seems to be quite a contrast to last year...

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 07:05 PM
"​Melodramatic narrator and explosions cause fans to go wild. Pre-orders through the roof"

"Ubisoft now making processed games, 95% water 5% beef."

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 07:05 PM
Would be shocked if that happened. I think AC3 hurt the brand a lot. If you look at the comments on the trailer and/or any game site, the atmosphere is different compared to when AC3 was announced. People are pretty much hating all over the place. I think this will translate in reduced sales. Maybe they will go back to 7M like Revelation sold (compared to >12M for AC3).

Yup. It would be nice to see some actual gameplay before being bombarded with pre-order incentives.

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 07:06 PM
Yup. It would be nice to see some actual gameplay before being bombarded with pre-order incentives.

"HAHAHAHA. YEAH. OF COURSE YOU DO YOU LITTLE TURD. YOUR GONNA HAVE TO WAIT 3 MONTHS TIL THATS GONNA HAPPEN. LULZ."

Ubisoft




AjinkyaParuleka
03-25-2013, 07:06 PM
Nice one.They added a new animations to Connor moveset.Hope they show more gameplay.

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 07:07 PM
Nice one.They added a new animations to Connor moveset.Hope they show more gameplay.

Yeah only to the fighting it seems which is expected, nothing to praise them about.

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 07:08 PM
"Ubisoft now making processed games, 95% water 5% beef."

"Ofwat call for hosepipe ban"

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 07:10 PM
I'm 99% sure that's Ralph Ineson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0408591/?ref_=tt_cl_t18) doing the voiceover. I hope they've got him in the game too, good actor.


Because there is nothing to be excited about.

No ship multiplayer
Same moveset
Same graphics
Cities look "okay" from what I saw

Like seriously, what is there to be excited about? They already pushed Naval up our arses in AC3 because it was new, now we have a pirate game? That trailer was 90% water and 10% beef. There was nothing to get excited about at all. Also, no holsters = Lazy! Its like not having a sheath for your sword. Altair had one in AC1. AC FREAKING 1.
Only reason why I am excited for this game is the open-ended missions. ONLY. BLOODY. REASON. Couldn't be arsed much about anything else for now, mainly due to everything being pretty much underwraps with not too many proposed new concepts not being that seemingly exciting. So yeah......freedom.

nitres15
03-25-2013, 07:12 PM
Im exited for this game not only because it is an AC game, but because iīve always wanted a good pirate game for years. So the "too much watter" complaint doesnīt bother me as much.

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 07:13 PM
Only reason why I am excited for this game is the open-ended missions. ONLY. BLOODY. REASON. Couldn't be arsed much about anything else for now, mainly due to everything being pretty much underwraps with not too many proposed new concepts not being that seemingly exciting. So yeah......freedom.
Yeah, that freedom and a hope that story isn't horrible and lacklustre like AC3 is why I'm excited, also naval.

D.I.D.
03-25-2013, 07:14 PM
I wonder if people will actually wait to see some gameplay before pre-ordering. That would be the smartest thing to do, right?

Well, people saw plenty of AC3 gameplay before preordering, and it still turned out to be disappointing. Gameplay can be just as tricksy as FMV.

The smart thing is to only buy the vanilla game, and only buy it if you see it at a massive discount. That's the joy of PC gaming, sometimes; I had thought I'd wait a couple of months for a price drop, but then GMG gave it up as a 30% off preorder (and included some of the DLC, allowing me to discover that there was no point in having a Season Pass for the rest). If, at the end of the TOKW releases, the story DLC seems to be worth it then I might pick that up, but if not then I'll just watch it on YouTube.

tldr: master race

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 07:14 PM
I will be happy if:

1 They manage to make the mission design more open.
2 Deliver good story.
3 Include random events, TTKW gave me hope about that.

PD La habana has a lot of potential.

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 07:14 PM
tldr: master race
Indeed.

silvermercy
03-25-2013, 07:14 PM
Well... Just came back from Tumblr. They're quite excited over there! xD People are screeching and going crazy as usual in their blogs. lol

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 07:16 PM
Well... Just came back from Tumblr. They're quite excited over there! xD People are screeching and going crazy as usual in their blogs. lol

Most kids do.

Locopells
03-25-2013, 07:16 PM
Am now feeling an idiot for laughing at the guy who asked when Ubi would release this...

Aphex_Tim
03-25-2013, 07:17 PM
Looks like the Jackdaw had BOOBIES!

silvermercy
03-25-2013, 07:18 PM
Most kids do.
Tumblr is for teens, young and older adults. Going back there, less miserable place.

pirate1802
03-25-2013, 07:18 PM
Looks like the Jackdaw had BOOBIES!

Objectification of ..objects?

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 07:19 PM
Tumblr is for teens, young and older adults. Going back there, less miserable place.

So being critical is being miserable?

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 07:19 PM
Looks like the Jackdaw had BOOBIES!

Cool, now I can ram enemy ships with BOOBIES. *pre-orders*

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 07:21 PM
Cool, now I can ram enemy ships with BOOBIES. *pre-orders*

You fell for Ubisofts hidden messages!

silvermercy
03-25-2013, 07:21 PM
So being critical is being miserable?
On this forum, most of the times, yes.

pirate1802
03-25-2013, 07:21 PM
Cool, now I can ram enemy ships with BOOBIES. *pre-orders*

Seems like you saw your "gameplay footage" :rolleyes:

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 07:23 PM
Seems like you saw your "gameplay footage" :rolleyes:

See, was the least they could do.

egriffin09
03-25-2013, 07:26 PM
For the first time, my expectations are low for an AC game. The way I see it, maybe that's a good thing because ACIV:BF may turn out to be surprisingly good.

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 07:26 PM
Will we still get that ****ty message about "Warning: Your ancestor will act like a good guy even though he's an assassin and a pirate, therefore we will not allow you to kill civilians." ?

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 07:28 PM
For the first time, my expectations are low for an AC game. The way I see it, maybe that's a good thing because ACIV:BF may turn out to be surprisingly good.

I really want that to happen.

Aphex_Tim
03-25-2013, 07:32 PM
Cool, now I can ram enemy ships with BOOBIES. *pre-orders*

*Instant pre-order*

But honestly, i feel like you and Pacmanate are being a little too critical. Of course there's nothing wrong with being critical, especially after AC3, but now it just feels like you're thinking of everyone who is excited about this game as dumb kids.

Josegtx13
03-25-2013, 07:34 PM
For the first time, my expectations are low for an AC game. The way I see it, maybe that's a good thing because ACIV:BF may turn out to be surprisingly good.

Same here. I'm not going to get caught up in the hype like ACR and AC3, both of which are good games, but not excellent games.

Soulid_Snake
03-25-2013, 07:36 PM
Regardless of how it will play, I will be the be the first to admit, it looks absolutely stunning. I guess the dev's weren't lying, when they said the next gen version would look exceptionally beautiful.

Dosenwabe
03-25-2013, 07:37 PM
Not hyped yet, **** gameplay. I want to see some Assassin/Templar or historical story stuff

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 07:37 PM
*Instant pre-order*

But honestly, i feel like you and Pacmanate are being a little too critical. Of course there's nothing wrong with being critical, especially after AC3, but now it just feels like you're thinking of everyone who is excited about this game as dumb kids.

Not at all. Truth is I will pre-order this game with the rest of the good folk. This time I'll wait for more details though. I probably was being a bit too cynical though, you're right! I can't wait to see more of Edwards kill animations with the dual swords. Looks brutal. And how he kicked that guy in the chest before killing him? awesome.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 07:39 PM
Gracious god, the official AC twitter feed is a cringe fest. "OoooooooOOOOOhh what part of the trailer did you suckers got most hyped (misguided) by?" " "EVRE THING. AC4 5ever" "PIRATES ARRRRRRRR" and the cringe goes on. Is this how PR for all games works?

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 07:46 PM
Gracious god, the official AC twitter feed is a cringe fest. "OoooooooOOOOOhh what part of the trailer did you suckers got most hyped (misguided) by?" " "EVRE THING. AC4 5ever" "PIRATES ARRRRRRRR" and the cringe goes on. Is this how PR for all games works?

Yeah I've talked to Gabe about this marketing thing. Don't hate on his twitter, the official AC one. He only does what he is told and seems like a genuine nice guy. However, blame the fans.

nitres15
03-25-2013, 07:48 PM
please be exited but exercise critical thought, and donīt get sucked in by the PR departmentīs carefully constructed trailers/demos and what not. Still though, im looking forward to this game.

shobhit7777777
03-25-2013, 07:49 PM
Cool vid

but meh

I mean I've seen it all before..the usual AC combat ("OOoH! new moves!!" -__-) and running around

The naval doesn't interest me much....IDGAF I play it for assassining about

Underwater was cool....but meh..how does it actually affect the core gameplay loop? Exactly.

The game looks good....the first shot of the city was beautiful as were the jungles....on that front the game is looking far better than AC3


It all felt familiar and like any other AC3 gameplay trailer. I want to see a complete sandbox mission where they showcase optional playstyles and the AI. Other than that...this kiddie candy ******** won't really do it for me.

Jexx21
03-25-2013, 07:49 PM
So being critical is being miserable?
Well, you're kind of being a **** about it.

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 07:52 PM
Well, you're kind of being a **** about it.

Not really, I'm just picking out all the things that were samey. There was nothing excitingly new in the trailer. Underwater things seem like a gimmic, just why. Cities changed but thats expected.

SigmaGamma4
03-25-2013, 07:55 PM
I really dont know about this one. Seems interesting, both graphically and gameplay-wise, but I get the impression that Ubi's making this game just cause they have extra naval warfare tech from the last game Doesnt seem to be as revolutionary (no pun intended) as AC3. I don't think it'll make any major steps for the AC series, but who knows, it's still rather early to be judging.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 08:00 PM
Not at all. Truth is I will pre-order this game with the rest of the good folk. This time I'll wait for more details though. I probably was being a bit too cynical though, you're right! I can't wait to see more of Edwards kill animations with the dual swords. Looks brutal. And how he kicked that guy in the chest before killing him? awesome.


I really dont know about this one. Seems interesting, both graphically and gameplay-wise, but I get the impression that Ubi's making this game just cause they have extra naval warfare tech from the last game Doesnt seem to be as revolutionary (no pun intended) as AC3. I don't think it'll make any major steps for the AC series, but who knows, it's still rather early to be judging.

To my mind, it seems that AC4 is not intended to be a creative step for the series, but rather, it seems like some sort of collection of everything that worked in the last 5 games, into one nice package.

TheHumanTowel
03-25-2013, 08:01 PM
I think it looks cool but **** it is so early. The Tyranny of King Washington isn't even finished being released yet and there's already gameplay of Black Flags. Should've waited till E3 for the big reveal imo.

That said what is there is all good. Didn't see much of Kingston but Havanna and the Jungle looks nice, boarding ships doesn't seem to be the same thing every time like in AC3, combat animations are good. Wonder how they're going to handle the breathing during underwater gameplay, maybe pockets of air trapped in sunken ships? Trailer can't showcase much of the seamless travel they're talking about but that tropical scene at the end was beautiful, if the ocean is as pretty and accessible as that it will be great.

pirate1802
03-25-2013, 08:06 PM
Wonder how they're going to handle the breathing during underwater gameplay, maybe pockets of air trapped in sunken ships? .

I read somewhere that they're gona use an instrument called the "diving bell". Saw the boxlike thingie that Edward descended with?

SigmaGamma4
03-25-2013, 08:07 PM
I think theyre going to use some sort of diving bell attached to the ship, as far as underwater breathing goes. I think its in the trailer.

SigmaGamma4
03-25-2013, 08:08 PM
Simultaneous posts....how fun:)

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 08:10 PM
Kingston looks very Boston-like

http://i.imgur.com/ZpDsJRV.jpg

Havana looks like a mixture of Damascus and Venice, but not as dense, and also looks quite small.

http://i.imgur.com/gPC6vFS.jpg

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 08:14 PM
^ and dirty as f

emperior
03-25-2013, 08:16 PM
I'm not hyped about this... I just feel that I dislike Edward... meh, maybe I have to watch it more to get hyped.

Layytez
03-25-2013, 08:16 PM
It's sad when AC fans get excited about the next AC games simply because of pirates....

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 08:20 PM
It's sad when AC fans get excited about the next AC games simply because of pirates....

But.. PIRATES. And water! What else could you possibly want?! Great free running areas? A good story? Stealth? I lol at you and rofl all day.

nitres15
03-25-2013, 08:21 PM
It's sad when AC fans get excited about the next AC games simply because of pirates....

**** that !, pirates, ninjas and jetpacks automaticly makes a game cool in my eyes

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 08:23 PM
**** that !, pirates, ninjas and jetpacks automaticly makes a game cool in my eyes

Not gonna lie... If I could get a jetpack and assassinate someone. HOLY. CRAP.

Layytez
03-25-2013, 08:24 PM
But.. PIRATES. And water! What else could you possibly want?! Great free running areas? A good story? Stealth? I lol at you and rofl all day.

I don't know how to respond...

Amaral724
03-25-2013, 08:25 PM
At 59s. The rain hitting on the roftops is soo beautifull o: Seems improved from the last game

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 08:26 PM
*Pre-ordering*

There ya go ;)

Rugterwyper32
03-25-2013, 08:27 PM
Kingston looks very Boston-like

http://i.imgur.com/ZpDsJRV.jpg

Havana looks like a mixture of Damascus and Venice, but not as dense, and also looks quite small.

http://i.imgur.com/gPC6vFS.jpg

I'm pretty sure we're just seeing small parts of the cities. And man do I love Spanish Colonial architecture, I'm gonna love Havana
Wonder how Kingston will end up. Not looking like the most interesting place for freeroam, but it looks pretty, gotta say.

ToniTorsi
03-25-2013, 08:32 PM
What the hell is it with Ubisoft Montreal and Stealth mechanics?

Edward entering a crouch-only state when entering grass for cheap kills? Really? This again?

We are greeted with Ubiosft Montreal's art of Copy and Pasting past features once again.

So basically, let me summarize it:

Rehashed animations
Rehashed Stealth mechanics
Rehashed move set
Rehashed Naval combat
Rehashed Tree Parkour Animations
Rehashed combat mechanics adding nothing new
Rehashed QTE animal combat

Wow, remember when Ubisoft used to make good Assassins Creed games?

Gil_217
03-25-2013, 08:34 PM
Not going to lie, everything I've seen from this game looks really good, way way better than what we saw during the build up for AC3. The characters look interesting, the cities/places are very exciting and lively and even though I don't want the naval to be the main focus of the game, I'm really liking it so far, especially with the introduction of sea exploration. Just personal preference I guess.

My problem is that I'm not feeling excited and absolutely pumped for AC games anymore, exactly like last year, no matter what they show me. It's just not the same anymore. The yearly releases are really hurting the excitement and enjoyment from this series. It's really starting to get tiresome.

With this said, I still can't believe they began the marketing for this game so early, especially when the SP DLC for AC3 isn't even finished.

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 08:37 PM
Not going to lie, everything I've seen from this game looks really good, way way better than what we saw during the build up for AC3. The characters look interesting, the cities/places are very exciting and lively and even though I don't want the naval to be the main focus of the game, I'm really liking it so far, especially with the introduction of sea exploration. Just personal preference I guess.

My problem is that I'm not feeling excited and absolutely pumped for AC games anymore, exactly like last year, no matter what they show me. It's just not the same anymore. The yearly releases are really hurting the excitement and enjoyment from this series. It's really starting to get tiresome.

With this said, I still can't believe they began the marketing for this game so early, especially when the SP DLC for AC3 isn't even finished.
The "magic" of the series is lost, and the I feel like I'm "burning out" on the series.

Sidenote - Toni that signature is one laggy piece of ****.

Rugterwyper32
03-25-2013, 08:37 PM
Not going to lie, everything I've seen from this game looks really good, way way better than what we saw during the build up for AC3. The characters look interesting, the cities/places are very exciting and lively and even though I don't want the naval to be the main focus of the game, I'm really liking it so far, especially with the introduction of sea exploration. Just personal preference I guess.

My problem is that I'm not feeling excited and absolutely pumped for AC games anymore, exactly like last year, no matter what they show me. It's just not the same anymore. The yearly releases are really hurting the excitement and enjoyment from this series. It's really starting to get tiresome.

With this said, I still can't believe they began the marketing for this game so early, especially when the SP DLC for AC3 isn't even finished.

Agreed. I feel after this they should take a nice break and focus on developing a next-gen game that uses the capabilities of next-gen consoles. Give it at least 2 years. If anything, spinoffs for the 3DS and the Vita work as smaller games or something.

And they did start too early. You know, I wouldn't have complained if they had revealed that the day the last DLC was released or something. Heck, even add something of a trailer with the last DLC, shameless advertising, sure, but I wouldn't have minded it

nitres15
03-25-2013, 08:38 PM
Not going to lie, everything I've seen from this game looks really good, way way better than what we saw during the build up for AC3. The characters look interesting, the cities/places are very exciting and lively and even though I don't want the naval to be the main focus of the game, I'm really liking it so far, especially with the introduction of sea exploration. Just personal preference I guess.

My problem is that I'm not feeling excited and absolutely pumped for AC games anymore, exactly like last year, no matter what they show me. It's just not the same anymore. The yearly releases are really hurting the excitement and enjoyment from this series. It's really starting to get tiresome.

With this said, I still can't believe they began the marketing for this game so early, especially when the SP DLC for AC3 isn't even finished.

this, it is like eating cake for lunch dinner and breakfast. Sure the cake might still taste good, and you might go "hhmmmm this cake still tastes good" but you just donīt get that "OMG it is saturday, time for cake !" feeling

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 08:41 PM
this, it is like eating cake for lunch dinner and breakfast. Sure the cake might still taste good but it just isnīt the same anymore

Ikr. Right now it's like having your cake and ​eating it. The announcement of number 4 so soon was the icing on the cake, that hindered my excitement.

Amaral724
03-25-2013, 08:42 PM
Not sure if this is happening just to me but, every time i click on pre-order it takes me to ubisoft page

nitres15
03-25-2013, 08:42 PM
Ikr. Right now it's like having your cake and ​eating it. The announcement of number 4 so soon was the icing on the cake, that hindered my excitement.

i donīt get "having your cake and ​eating it" thing. What else are you going to do with with a cake ? Hide in in ?

TheHumanTowel
03-25-2013, 08:43 PM
Not going to lie, everything I've seen from this game looks really good, way way better than what we saw during the build up for AC3. The characters look interesting, the cities/places are very exciting and lively and even though I don't want the naval to be the main focus of the game, I'm really liking it so far, especially with the introduction of sea exploration. Just personal preference I guess.

My problem is that I'm not feeling excited and absolutely pumped for AC games anymore, exactly like last year, no matter what they show me. It's just not the same anymore. The yearly releases are really hurting the excitement and enjoyment from this series. It's really starting to get tiresome.

With this said, I still can't believe they began the marketing for this game so early, especially when the SP DLC for AC3 isn't even finished.
I know what you mean. I don't think I'll ever feel as excited for an AC game as I was for the first two again as long as the annual releases continue.

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 08:46 PM
i donīt get "having your cake and ​eating it" thing. What else are you going to do with with a cake ? Hide in in ?

xD. It's just a saying. Meaning I'm getting more than I can handle. Hindered means something that's created difficulties.

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 08:50 PM
What the hell is it with Ubisoft Montreal and Stealth mechanics?

Edward entering a crouch-only state when entering grass for cheap kills? Really? This again?

We are greeted with Ubiosft Montreal's art of Copy and Pasting past features once again.

So basically, let me summarize it:

Rehashed animations
Rehashed Stealth mechanics
Rehashed move set
Rehashed Naval combat
Rehashed Tree Parkour Animations
Rehashed combat mechanics adding nothing new
Rehashed QTE animal combat

Wow, remember when Ubisoft used to make good Assassins Creed games?

Your sig makes my computer cry

silvermercy
03-25-2013, 08:59 PM
I know what you're saying about the yearly "cake" but bear in mind we're all hardcore fans, hence we're in the forums here and elsewhere. Occasional gamers don't usually have this feeling though. When I first got into AC, it was just after ACR was released and I was just a casual gamer.

Whatever we say now, we're buying this and we know it. lol

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 09:02 PM
I know what you're saying about the yearly "cake" but bear in mind we're all hardcore fans, hence we're in the forums here and elsewhere. Occasional gamers don't usually have this feeling though. When I first got into AC, it was just after ACR was released and I was just a casual gamer.

Whatever we say now, we're buying this and we know it. lol
Which is the sad thing.

Aphex_Tim
03-25-2013, 09:04 PM
What the hell is it with Ubisoft Montreal and Stealth mechanics?

Edward entering a crouch-only state when entering grass for cheap kills? Really? This again?

We are greeted with Ubiosft Montreal's art of Copy and Pasting past features once again.

So basically, let me summarize it:

Rehashed animations
Rehashed Stealth mechanics
Rehashed move set
Rehashed Naval combat
Rehashed Tree Parkour Animations
Rehashed combat mechanics adding nothing new
Rehashed QTE animal combat

Wow, remember when Ubisoft used to make good Assassins Creed games?

I never heard any complaints about any of that from AC1 to AC2.

Also, stop seeing Assassin's Creed as a stealth game series. It hasn't been a stealth series since AC1.
Sure, it has stealth mechanics but it's clearly not the main focus of these games.

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 09:05 PM
I know I am buying it because Edward seems cool and Im in it for the story, not the game mechanics, however I wish they would change.

lothario-da-be
03-25-2013, 09:06 PM
Which is the sad thing.
I will spend over 200€ on ac4, wich is a sad thing, but still i will do it.

ZeSpecter
03-25-2013, 09:08 PM
I knew someone would complain trololol, it always happens.
This is by far the best-looking AC game since Brotherhood in my opinion.

lothario-da-be
03-25-2013, 09:09 PM
I knew someone would complain trololol, it always happens.
This is by far the best-looking AC game since Brotherhood in my opinion.
I was the most hyped for Revelations, and Havana gives me the same feeling.

LoyalACFan
03-25-2013, 09:14 PM
Kingston looks very Boston-like

http://i.imgur.com/ZpDsJRV.jpg

Havana looks like a mixture of Damascus and Venice, but not as dense, and also looks quite small.

http://i.imgur.com/gPC6vFS.jpg

As if what you can see in that screen is the entire city...?

Personally, I'm pumped to be getting back into some old-world-style architecture.

Also, I rewatched the trailer (with sound this time, I watched it the first time in my stats class lol) and I'm disappointed we don't get to hear Edward's voice actor :( Hearing Connor was like the highlight of AC3's gameplay reveal.

xx-pyro
03-25-2013, 09:15 PM
Because there is nothing to be excited about.

No ship multiplayer
Same moveset
Same graphics
Cities look "okay" from what I saw

Like seriously, what is there to be excited about? They already pushed Naval up our arses in AC3 because it was new, now we have a pirate game? That trailer was 90% water and 10% beef. There was nothing to get excited about at all. Also, no holsters = Lazy! Its like not having a sheath for your sword. Altair had one in AC1. AC FREAKING 1.

No ship multiplayer- a loss yes, but nothing we had before so not exactly something that was cut.

Same moveset- You really expect them to waste their time and resources doing new animations? Get your head out of the clouds.

Same graphics- AC games have never been visually stunning, and you expect a new engine after they only JUST began using AnvilNEXT? That head..those clouds.

And then an opinion at the end that has no bearing on anything else. Does the game look like a 10/10? No of course not, but AC games barely rate the 9/10 anyways so why would anyone be expecting a 10? As for no holsters being lazy, companies like Bioware don't even have bowstrings in Dragon Age games, and there's a huge difference between AC1 where we had ONE SWORD, and all subsequent games where we have MULTIPLE WEAPONS USING THE SAME SLOT.

Are you even trying here? Or just committed to bashing a game we know almost nothing about?

LoyalACFan
03-25-2013, 09:18 PM
As for no holsters being lazy, companies like Bioware don't even have bowstrings in Dragon Age games, and there's a huge difference between AC1 where we had ONE SWORD, and all subsequent games where we have MULTIPLE WEAPONS USING THE SAME SLOT.

I'm excited for this game, but I'm also 100% on his side as far as holsters are concerned. We JUST had them in AC3, and we had multiple guns available. It can't possibly be that hard to put them in again for immersion's sake.

lothario-da-be
03-25-2013, 09:20 PM
No ship multiplayer- a loss yes, but nothing we had before so not exactly something that was cut.

Same moveset- You really expect them to waste their time and resources doing new animations? Get your head out of the clouds.

Same graphics- AC games have never been visually stunning, and you expect a new engine after they only JUST began using AnvilNEXT? That head..those clouds.

And then an opinion at the end that has no bearing on anything else. Does the game look like a 10/10? No of course not, but AC games barely rate the 9/10 anyways so why would anyone be expecting a 10? As for no holsters being lazy, companies like Bioware don't even have bowstrings in Dragon Age games, and there's a huge difference between AC1 where we had ONE SWORD, and all subsequent games where we have MULTIPLE WEAPONS USING THE SAME SLOT.

Are you even trying here? Or just committed to bashing a game we know almost nothing about?
This, its the first trailer, wait some months and judge then.

xx-pyro
03-25-2013, 09:20 PM
This, its the first trailer, wait some months and judge then.

That's pretty much what I'm saying to him I'm not sure why that's directed at me. I never pre-order games anyways.

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 09:21 PM
As if what you can see in that screen is the entire city...?

I guess so, but you can get a general idea of the density, and it doesn't look as dense as AC1/AC2's cities. I do love the architecture though.

lothario-da-be
03-25-2013, 09:21 PM
That's pretty much what I'm saying to him I'm not sure why that's directed at me. I never pre-order games anyways.
It wasen't directed at you, i said this and added something for him.

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 09:22 PM
damm it damm it....why are they taking this stupid Hollywood direction again with this trailer ? I HATE commentaries -_-

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 09:23 PM
No ship multiplayer- a loss yes, but nothing we had before so not exactly something that was cut.

Same moveset- You really expect them to waste their time and resources doing new animations? Get your head out of the clouds.

Same graphics- AC games have never been visually stunning, and you expect a new engine after they only JUST began using AnvilNEXT? That head..those clouds.

And then an opinion at the end that has no bearing on anything else. Does the game look like a 10/10? No of course not, but AC games barely rate the 9/10 anyways so why would anyone be expecting a 10? As for no holsters being lazy, companies like Bioware don't even have bowstrings in Dragon Age games, and there's a huge difference between AC1 where we had ONE SWORD, and all subsequent games where we have MULTIPLE WEAPONS USING THE SAME SLOT.

Are you even trying here? Or just committed to bashing a game we know almost nothing about?

Or are you committed to defending a game we know nothing about? I am saying what I saw. If they took a year gap, they could add holsters, a new moveset etc. But no, $$$$$$$$$$$$$

nitres15
03-25-2013, 09:23 PM
damm it damm it....why are they taking this stupid Hollywood direction again with this trailer ? I HATE commentaries -_-

this. It doesnīt really tell you anything, neither does it add anything to the trailer

SaintPerkele
03-25-2013, 09:24 PM
Just watched it, my reaction is still... cautious.

First of all, the graphics. They do look nice, especially the light, and have somewhat of a Revelations-feel to them (you know, these really detailed textures, especially Havanna).
However, the characters do not look as great as in AC3, but I don't really mind - but the water-scenes look very similar to AC3. Underwater-gameplay looks interesting at least (though I'm unsure how exactly it is going to work - can we really dive everywhere or just in certain smaller spots?).

Now for the bad things though..
The cities. Havanna looks really cool (apart from two clone-viewpoints almost exactly next to each other), Kingston looks like any random city from the Frontier, and honestly, I'm not excited at all for that architecture anymore. Unpaved roads and wooden buildings, nah, had enough of that. Might be historically accurate, but I already know that Kingston will be the place I'll spend the least amount of time.
However, both cities seem to be really, really small, at least judging by this trailer. Well, we'll see about that. Nassau is yet to be shown too.

Now the islands. Did any of you notice that most of the islands in the background mostly consisted of textures? This means that we will definitely not be able to explore all islands completely, but only certain parts of them. Somewhat depressing if you ask me.

Can't judge anything else really. Tree-running seems to be downgraded, rain is still in there, Edward's hood looks not eagle-ish enough, fighting with sharks seems to be just another QTE again and whales - no idea. Still uncertain what to think of the game. Hoping for some proper-gameplay footage soon (hopefully free-roaming and not mission-based). It's way too early to announce the preorder bonusses though..

Aphex_Tim
03-25-2013, 09:25 PM
Or are you committed to defending a game we know nothing about? I am saying what I saw. If they took a year gap, they could add holsters, a new moveset etc. But no, $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Remember AC2? It was released two years after AC1 and had the exact same move set.
Never heard any complaints about it back then.

Aphex_Tim
03-25-2013, 09:26 PM
damm it damm it....why are they taking this stupid Hollywood direction again with this trailer ? I HATE commentaries -_-

Well, i prefer this over ACR's dubstep trailers....

GunnarGunderson
03-25-2013, 09:26 PM
Well, it looks like they put some effort into the graphics and animation this time. But that doesn't mean the gameplay is anymore engaging. You'll probably still be able to fire off your guns after swimming to shore from your boat

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 09:27 PM
Remember AC2? It was released two years after AC1 and had the exact same move set.
Never heard any complaints about it back then.

Because it was just that, "back then". It didn't really matter until they came out with "Connor needed a new moveset because he was more muscley and bulky". Well in this case, Edward is much leaner and more Ezio in physique, so I think he needs a new moveset.

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 09:29 PM
Because it was just that, "back then". It didn't really matter until they came out with "Connor needed a new moveset because he was more muscley and bulky". Well in this case, Edward is much leaner and more Ezio in physique, so I think he needs a new moveset.
double standards as I see it...at least Connor and Edward are related. unlike Altair and Ezio

I`m not pumped either, but you just sound pretty whiny now If I`m honest

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 09:29 PM
Well, i prefer this over ACR's dubstep trailers....
I actually prefer dubstep over this....even though the music WAS awesome in this trailer

SixKeys
03-25-2013, 09:31 PM
I've watched the trailer three times now and I just can't get excited. At all. I just don't get the feeling of Assassin's Creed from this, just a generic Uncharted ripoff.

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 09:32 PM
Well, i prefer this over ACR's dubstep trailers....

Dubstep in AC trailers works pretty well IMO


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a12e3iKzqlw

No annoying commentary either.

GunnarGunderson
03-25-2013, 09:32 PM
Any word on whether the run button is still the same as the climb up anything within two feet button?

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 09:34 PM
I've watched the trailer three times now and I just can't get excited. At all. I just don't get the feeling of Assassin's Creed from this, just a generic Uncharted ripoff.
I think that`s how it is. it`s not supposed to feel the same, but generic uncharted rip off ?

SixKeys
03-25-2013, 09:40 PM
I think that`s how it is. it`s not supposed to feel the same, but generic uncharted rip off ?

Lots of movie-like action scenes, pan-and-zoom views of cities that show more detail than scale, emphasis on treasure hunting, jungles and ruins....These are all things I associate with Uncharted, not AC.

Aphex_Tim
03-25-2013, 09:40 PM
Any word on whether the run button is still the same as the climb up anything within two feet button?

Or you could just push the stick halfway.

Aphex_Tim
03-25-2013, 09:40 PM
Lots of movie-like action scenes, pan-and-zoom views of cities that show more detail than scale, emphasis on treasure hunting, jungles and ruins....These are all things I associate with Uncharted, not AC.

Well, it's a cinematic gameplay trailer; what did you expect?
It's the same as with AC3's premiere "gameplay" trailer.

SaintPerkele
03-25-2013, 09:42 PM
Dubstep in AC trailers works pretty well IMO


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a12e3iKzqlw

No annoying commentary either.
Why is every electronic-music labelled as dubstep today..? But that trailer is actually a great example of how the AC trailers have changed. The beginning is beautiful and by refering to arts and intellectuals of the Renaissance it presents itself as an intelligent instead of an EXPLOSIONS!-game.

Turul.
03-25-2013, 09:43 PM
I really really hope there is much freedom and open ended missions as they say it will be

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 09:44 PM
Or you could just push the stick halfway.
Keyboard ninja here...

LoyalACFan
03-25-2013, 09:49 PM
The beginning is beautiful and by refering to arts and intellectuals of the Renaissance it presents itself as an intelligent instead of an EXPLOSIONS!-game.

Yes, well, I imagine the denizens of the pirate-controlled West Indies were considerably less classy and genteel than those of the late Italian Renaissance. Not saying I'm a fan of the over-the-top Hollywood narration, but some explosions and brutality seem more appropriate for a pirate trailer than romanticized sweeping shots of the local populace while a narrator extols the intellectual virtues of the era.

SixKeys
03-25-2013, 09:52 PM
Why is every electronic-music labelled as dubstep today..? But that trailer is actually a great example of how the AC trailers have changed. The beginning is beautiful and by refering to arts and intellectuals of the Renaissance it presents itself as an intelligent instead of an EXPLOSIONS!-game.

Plus it shows the scale of the cities well. You can tell they were really focusing on showing the cities from many different angles so as to show how big they are. In the AC4 trailer we only get a tiny glimpse of two of the game's cities, making some people think they're smaller than they probably are.

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 09:52 PM
Why is every electronic-music labelled as dubstep today..? But that trailer is actually a great example of how the AC trailers have changed. The beginning is beautiful and by refering to arts and intellectuals of the Renaissance it presents itself as an intelligent instead of an EXPLOSIONS!-game.

I agree. And with regards to the music, it just sounds dubsteppy to me, and a lot of people have referred to that specific music as dubstep. But what do I know, I don't listen to it recreationally :p

kalo.yanis
03-25-2013, 09:55 PM
IMHO, the visuals and gameplay looked very nice, but the music and voiceover were completely lame. Absolutely ruined the trailer for me. Talk about buzzkill.

D.I.D.
03-25-2013, 10:01 PM
i donīt get "having your cake and ​eating it" thing. What else are you going to do with with a cake ? Hide in in ?


xD. It's just a saying. Meaning I'm getting more than I can handle. Hindered means something that's created difficulties.

No it doesn't!

It means that if you eat your cake, you can no longer own it since it will have been consumed. The saying is "you can't have your cake and eat it", and it gets misused all the time. Think of "have" as if it was "keep": "you are asking for the impossible".

"You can't have it both ways" is an equivalent saying.

SaintPerkele
03-25-2013, 10:01 PM
Yes, well, I imagine the denizens of the pirate-controlled West Indies were considerably less classy and genteel than those of the late Italian Renaissance. Not saying I'm a fan of the over-the-top Hollywood narration, but some explosions and brutality seem more appropriate for a pirate trailer than romanticized sweeping shots of the local populace while a narrator extols the intellectual virtues of the era.
Sure thing, but the amount of explosions increases from game to game and that worries me. It makes sense in a both a war-and a shipbattle-game, but until now I will never see the reason to include all those bombs and flamethrowers in an Ottoman setting (I know they existed historically, but not in the ridiculous Michael Bay-way Revelations depicted them).

Plus it shows the scale of the cities well. You can tell they were really focusing on showing the cities from many different angles so as to show how big they are. In the AC4 trailer we only get a tiny glimpse of two of the game's cities, making some people think they're smaller than they probably are.
Including me. Kingston especially looks tiny, almost as small as the Frontier 'cities'..

I agree. And with regards to the music, it just sounds dubsteppy to me, and a lot of people have referred to that specific music as dubstep. But what do I know, I don't listen to it recreationally http://static5.cdn.ubi.com/u/ubiforums/20120411.419/images/smilies/tongue.png
No problem :D

D.I.D.
03-25-2013, 10:03 PM
As if what you can see in that screen is the entire city...?

No, Havana was huge. Considerably bigger than AC3's Boston and New York, if they give you the full run of the place with no sync barriers.

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 10:04 PM
While we're comparing, here's AC1's gameplay trailer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXu3pdxeKpQ

D.I.D.
03-25-2013, 10:08 PM
Keyboard ninja here...

Get an Xbox gamepad for PC (I don't think there's anything genuinely better than the Microsoft one, still). It is easier, and you'll use it in more games than AC. Replaying older ACs was instantly better, and it's really nice to be able to choose gradations of speed.

SixKeys
03-25-2013, 10:12 PM
Get an Xbox gamepad for PC (I don't think there's anything genuinely better than the Microsoft one, still). It is easier, and you'll use it in more games than AC. Replaying older ACs was instantly better, and it's really nice to be able to choose gradations of speed.

I've played all the AC games with mouse and keyboard, never had any problems (apart from some stupid cinematic camera angles in the tombs). I don't think I could get used to a controller after 5 games.

LoyalACFan
03-25-2013, 10:12 PM
Sure thing, but the amount of explosions increases from game to game and that worries me. It makes sense in a both a war-and a shipbattle-game, but until now I will never see the reason to include all those bombs and flamethrowers in an Ottoman setting (I know they existed historically, but not in the ridiculous Michael Bay-way Revelations depicted them).

Fair enough, but I think it's OK for a pirate game to show off a bunch of explosions if you're showcasing ship vs. ship battles. It's only when things become too Uncharted/Just Cause-y that I start to grimace. Where there are explosions every five seconds around your character, but somehow you never get affected by them. Revelations was a pretty big offender on this front. But they dialed it back significantly with AC3, and as long as the flames and explosions stay where they belong (with the massive ship cannons) it doesn't bother me much.

SaintPerkele
03-25-2013, 10:14 PM
While we're comparing, here's AC1's gameplay trailer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXu3pdxeKpQ
Emphasis on cities (both in detail with important buildings and in large scale), shows of the differences between the locations. Starts out by giving a really slow and calm vibe, then transfers to a faster one when Altair starts running. People and crows (indicating social stealth) are besides Altair and the cities in the center of the attention. Some free-running and small fights tossed in the middle. Ends with an assassination (not fully shown), while the atmosphere is calm again.
No voice-over, no cutscenes, great music.

THIS is how an AC trailer should be like. The most important aspects of the game in a great trailer.

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 10:15 PM
No it doesn't!

It means that if you eat your cake, you can't no longer own it since it will have been consumed. The saying is "you can't have your cake and eat it", and it gets misused all the time. Think of "have" as if it was "keep": "you are asking for the impossible".

"You can't have it both ways" is an equivalent saying.

Yeah, but look at the context I wrote it in. "I'm having my cake and eating it". Basically meaning Ubisoft are giving me all this content, games every year. It's not technically the right way of using the phrase, but who cares, I just wanted to talk about cake.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 10:15 PM
While we're comparing, here's AC1's gameplay trailer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXu3pdxeKpQ

Man, they really don't make them like they used to. Half of that trailer was only cities and stealthy Altaïr. I weep for the direction that the series has taken. This extended fanbase does benefit the brand financially, but it also detracts from its allure somehow, with the direction the series has taken in terms of general gameplay and how Ubisoft represents the game, which some might consider as increasingly "dumb" with each trailer and game.

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 10:26 PM
Man, they really don't make them like they used to. Half of that trailer was only cities and stealthy Altaïr. I weep for the direction that the series has taken. This extended fanbase does benefit the brand financially, but it also detracts from its allure somehow, with the direction the series has taken in terms of general gameplay and how Ubisoft represents the game, which some might consider as increasingly "dumb" with each trailer and game.
It is dumb. Everything is automatic, 1button instakill, go from cutscene 1 to cutscene 2, hurrrrrr action, explosions, no sense of "difficulty".

Bastiaen
03-25-2013, 10:26 PM
I'm sick of reading complaints about boring cities. They've made the cities much like they were historically. Boston and Kingston can't be as pretty as Venice, because they aren't in real life.

YuurHeen
03-25-2013, 10:28 PM
It's official. Assasins creed is ubisofts COD. bb

GunnarGunderson
03-25-2013, 10:32 PM
I'm sick of reading complaints about boring cities. They've made the cities much like they were historically. Boston and Kingston can't be as pretty as Venice, because they aren't in real life.

well maybe they should set their games where the cities are as pretty as venic

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 10:49 PM
well maybe they should set their games where the cities are as pretty as venic
an extremely close minded idea

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 10:51 PM
So....did anyone else notice that rain drops now have structure and particles ?

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 10:52 PM
So....did anyone else notice that rain drops now have structure and particles ?
I noticed we had a trailer made from PC footage for the first time, lol.

MadJC1986
03-25-2013, 10:52 PM
well maybe they should set their games where the cities are as pretty as venic

I'm kinda annoyed of hearing how awesome Venice was in AC2. I spent half my life in Venice, as a part of my family lives there. And AC2's Venice was not even half as beautiful as real life venice.

Legendz54
03-25-2013, 10:53 PM
:D Give me the game, Check out that massive whale!

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 10:54 PM
I noticed we had a trailer made from PC footage for the first time, lol.
how about the improved light rays ?? noticed that ? I`m sure you did...you basically sniff graphics xD

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 10:55 PM
IMHO, the visuals and gameplay looked very nice, but the music and voiceover were completely lame. Absolutely ruined the trailer for me. Talk about buzzkill.


I noticed we had a trailer made from PC footage for the first time, lol.

So does that sort of confirm that PC will be a day-one release? If this is the case, then PC will be my platform for AC4.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 10:56 PM
I'm kinda annoyed of hearing how awesome Venice was in AC2. I spent half my life in Venice, as a part of my family lives there. And AC2's Venice was not even half as beautiful as real life venice.
The water wasn't green enough with filth?

D.I.D.
03-25-2013, 10:56 PM
Yeah, but look at the context I wrote it in. "I'm having my cake and eating it". Basically meaning Ubisoft are giving me all this content, games every year. It's not technically the right way of using the phrase, but who cares, I just wanted to talk about cake.

:D

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 10:57 PM
The water wasn't green enough with filth?
not that, AC II Venice was pretty lame because of the color scheme...sucked A LOT of the beauty...pre-E3 Venice looked damm awesome

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 10:57 PM
how about the improved light rays ?? noticed that ? I`m sure you did...you basically sniff graphics xD
You make it sound like it's a bad thing... lol.

Trajectory based aiming looks cool and hopefully will add a level of skill required to play as opposed to just aiming and firing instantly. Not sure about combat, we've seen too little and the kill shown(not the pistol ones) was rather...weird. And I hope Edward for all his badass looks doesn't have the voice of a pansy :p

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 10:58 PM
double standards as I see it...at least Connor and Edward are related. unlike Altair and Ezio

I`m not pumped either, but you just sound pretty whiny now If I`m honest

You sound pretty whiny 24/7

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 10:58 PM
how about the improved light rays ?? noticed that ? I`m sure you did...you basically sniff graphics xD

Enta hatgeb el le3ba 3al PS3 wala hategebha men steam?

UrDeviant1
03-25-2013, 10:59 PM
You sound pretty whiny 24/7

Oh SNAP!

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 10:59 PM
Enta hatgeb el le3ba 3al PS3 wala hategebha men steam?
msh mota2aked....e7temal lw 3ereft 2a7awesh agebha PS4 w 5alas

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:00 PM
not that, AC II Venice was pretty lame because of the color scheme...sucked A LOT of the beauty...pre-E3 Venice looked damm awesome

I only noticed that night Venice had a blue filter on it, but daytime Venice looked pretty untouched to me. I'll go back to the trailers.

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:00 PM
You sound pretty whiny 24/7
Stalking much ?

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:00 PM
Enta hatgeb el le3ba 3al PS3 wala hategebha men steam?
He wants to steam men to death who own a PS3.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:01 PM
msh mota2aked....e7temal lw 3ereft 2a7awesh agebha PS4 w 5alas

Gamesword beybe3 consoles?

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 11:01 PM
Not very excited!

But La Habana has potential!

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:03 PM
He wants to steam men to death who own a PS3.

It is so easy to mess with your petty foreign minds.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:04 PM
Not very excited!

But La Habana has potential!
Are we officially referring to it as La Habana? Sounds pretty funny when you say it that way.

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 11:04 PM
Stalking much ?

Hypocritical much?

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:04 PM
I only noticed that night Venice had a blue filter on it, but daytime Venice looked pretty untouched to me. I'll go back to the trailers.
Not the trailers. see the difference
http://i.neoseeker.com/p/Games/Playstation_3/Action/Adventure/assassins_creed_2_profilelarge.jpg
http://whatplayersthink.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/assassins-creed2-431.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120531155760/theassassinscreed/es/images/f/f1/EzioRosaRescue.jpg
http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/assassins-creed-ii_2009_06-15-09_01.jpg

What we have now
http://www.supercheats.com/guides/files/guid/assassins-creed-ii/ac2-fv3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/q13PY.jpg

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:05 PM
Hypocritical much?
Ha Haaaa You`re in the dark...but touche

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 11:06 PM
Are we officially referring to it as La Habana? Sounds pretty funny when you say it that way.

Well, I am a spanish/italian/catalá native speaker. So for me, is La Habana :P

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:07 PM
Not the trailers. see the difference


http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120531155760/theassassinscreed/es/images/f/f1/EzioRosaRescue.jpg
http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/assassins-creed-ii_2009_06-15-09_01.jpg


:| If you had showed me these two before I could've gotten a better idea for my color injecting, I only saw the first two and the first one is unfinished and second not much is visible.

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 11:07 PM
Not very excited!

But La Habana has potential!

La Habana sounds better than Havana :p

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:07 PM
Not the trailers. see the difference
http://i.neoseeker.com/p/Games/Playstation_3/Action/Adventure/assassins_creed_2_profilelarge.jpg
http://whatplayersthink.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/assassins-creed2-431.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120531155760/theassassinscreed/es/images/f/f1/EzioRosaRescue.jpg
http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/assassins-creed-ii_2009_06-15-09_01.jpg

What we have now
http://www.supercheats.com/guides/files/guid/assassins-creed-ii/ac2-fv3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/q13PY.jpg

How ugly ! Never noticed how the colours were masked so horribly. I don't reckon there's a mod for that? The guys removed it for BF3. Can't be that difficult.

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:09 PM
How ugly ! Never noticed how the colours were masked so horribly. I don't reckon there's a mod for that? The guys removed it for BF3. Can't be that difficult.
Locked engine.

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:09 PM
:| If you had showed me these two before I could've gotten a better idea for my color injecting, I only saw the first two and the first one is unfinished and second not much is visible.
really ? :|

Well....you see them now, right ?? but you know...PLEASE TRY D:

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 11:09 PM
The cool filter makes it look crap. God knows why they did that.

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:09 PM
How ugly ! Never noticed how the colours were masked so horribly. I don't reckon there's a mod for that? The guys removed it for BF3. Can't be that difficult.
Ubisoft`s engine is **** hard to mod

EDIT: beaten to it

ACfan443
03-25-2013, 11:10 PM
What on earth happened to the colours? The top screens look amazing

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 11:11 PM
La Habana sounds better than Havana :p

Indeed :D

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:12 PM
Lets hope Habana stays the same eh ? looks beautiful

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:13 PM
Locked engine.

Guess I will wait for the remastered 10 year anniversary version of AC2..... in 2019

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 11:15 PM
This explains why I was having trouble calibrating my TV whilst in Venice!

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:15 PM
The cool filter makes it look crap. God knows why they did that.
AC3 has it as well... as you can see I did away with those horrible things.

http://i5.minus.com/iz89HmoUeqrFp.png

http://i3.minus.com/ibwYPxULbetKoI.png

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 11:16 PM
Lets hope Habana stays the same eh ? looks beautiful

Yes!

I believe the same group who did Constantinople is working on this game, so that is good news in regards of that matter!

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 11:16 PM
Thats a lot of hacked money and nice graphics :P

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:16 PM
Lets hope Habana stays the same eh ? looks beautiful

But also looks filthy. I hope they have like a rich white people side of it and some crappy slums for the rest of the people, showing diversity within the city, in the same manner of ACR and ACB.

Stiler
03-25-2013, 11:19 PM
How come I can't find the uplay black chest edition on the uplay store?

I hope this doens't mean that like AC3, the NA people are screwed over and only the EU gets the awesome editions? There a reason ubisoft can't sell these in the America's?

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 11:19 PM
But also looks filthy. I hope they have like a rich white people side of it and some crappy slums for the rest of the people, showing diversity within the city, in the same manner of ACR and ACB.

La habana was probably the most important spanish port in the west indies, so it is a valid possibility.

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:21 PM
Did anyone also notice Edward`s hood when he drop kicked a soldier ?? Or the Fire gust at the ship when Edward is leaping into the water ?

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:21 PM
Thats a lot of hacked money and nice graphics :P
Was using trainer to teleport around(for screenshots), had money hack as well, accidentally pressed and suffered because of that, lol.

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:22 PM
Did anyone also notice Edward`s hood when he drop kicked a soldier ?? Or the Fire gust at the ship when Edward is leaping into the water ?
Was there supposed to be something special about it? I noticed that the eagle sound in the leap of faith sounded like it was sick and dying, lol.

pacmanate
03-25-2013, 11:23 PM
Was there supposed to be something special about it? I noticed that the eagle sound in the leap of faith sounded like it was sick and dying, lol.

Hahahaha

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:26 PM
Was there supposed to be something special about it? I noticed that the eagle sound in the leap of faith sounded like it was sick and dying, lol.
Uhh Yes ?? The fire looks a lot like Watch dogs now

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:27 PM
Uhh Yes ?? The fire looks a lot like Watch dogs now
The last time I can remember AC had horrible fire was in Revelations when using the greek fire thing, it was a pixellated weird thing.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:27 PM
Was there supposed to be something special about it? I noticed that the eagle sound in the leap of faith sounded like it was sick and dying, lol.

Is there even such a thing as a tropical eagle? All I found on google about tropical eagles were Swatsnikas under eagles. Edward was a Hipster nazi?

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:29 PM
The last time I can remember AC had horrible fire was in Revelations when using the greek fire thing, it was a pixellated weird thing.
Granted Yes, AC III`s fire was not as horrible as ACR, but ACBF still looks hella better than AC III`s fire...Its Animation looks a lot more realistic and does not loop like AC III`s...I may even go as far as to say that it`s probably wind projected....Nah that`s a bit too far :|

Megas_Doux
03-25-2013, 11:29 PM
Is there even such a thing as a tropical eagle? All I found on google about tropical eagles were Swatsnikas under eagles. Edward was a Hipster nazi?

Eagle is a common name for some members of the bird family Accipitridae, and belong to several genera that are not necessarily closely related to each other. Most of the more than sixty species occur in Eurasia and Africa.[1] Outside this area, just eleven species can be found - two species (the Bald Eagle and Golden Eagle) in the United States and Canada, nine species in Central America and South America, and three species in Australia.

Guess there are.

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:34 PM
Eagle is a common name for some members of the bird family Accipitridae, and belong to several genera that are not necessarily closely related to each other. Most of the more than sixty species occur in Eurasia and Africa.[1] Outside this area, just eleven species can be found - two species (the Bald Eagle and Golden Eagle) in the United States and Canada, nine species in Central America and South America, and three species in Australia.

Guess there are.
Guess there won't be a nazi zombie mode for AC4 like the 20 other Nazi zombie games.

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:35 PM
Granted Yes, AC III`s fire was not as horrible as ACR, but ACBF still looks hella better than AC III`s fire...Its Animation looks a lot more realistic and does not loop like AC III`s...I may even go as far as to say that it`s probably wind projected....Nah that`s a bit too far :|
Careful now, keep in mind which company makes these :p

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:38 PM
Careful now, keep in mind which company makes these :p
Yeah you`re right...but considering it`s open world and as big as they say it is (Although I`m certain we`ll end up with 20 islands with an estimation of 50) then that looks pretty impressive...looks better than GTA V...at least the textures do

THE_JOKE_KING33
03-25-2013, 11:39 PM
I honestly liked the trailer, I'm pretty bummed that there's no holsters/sheaths and Edward seems to have the same kill animations, but I liked it nonetheless.


Im exited for this game not only because it is an AC game, but because iīve always wanted a good pirate game for years. So the "too much watter" complaint doesnīt bother me as much.

^This

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:40 PM
Yeah you`re right...but considering it`s open world and as big as they say it is (Although I`m certain we`ll end up with 20 islands with an estimation of 50) then that looks pretty impressive...
Changing the platform makes all the difference :P

http://i.imgur.com/N5y3M.jpg

rupok2
03-25-2013, 11:47 PM
Well I looked at the trailer again after getting home, not really impressed, its clear who they are marketing this to (hint its not the core ac fans).

FrankieSatt
03-25-2013, 11:51 PM
Boats, boats and more boats. Sorry, this is nothing more than a naval/sailing game when compared to other AC games.

While it might be a decent game it is going to be a poor excuse for an AC game, of that I have no doubt.

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:54 PM
Changing the platform makes all the difference :P

http://i.imgur.com/N5y3M.jpg
damm it :|

ArabianFrost
03-25-2013, 11:57 PM
Well I looked at the trailer again after getting home, not really impressed, its clear who they are marketing this to (hint its not the core ac fans).

The marketing may not be targeted at the hardest of core, but this doesn't mean the game isn't made for the hardcore fans. Actually, Ubisoft depends on the gameplay trailers mainly to attract the casual gamers. They know the hardcore fan base, as opposed to the casual gamer, already read all the articles and what not, so they know the game by heart without watching any trailer, when that guy who buys that game for all the Arrrrrrrrrrrr, can only be "informed" about the game through trailers, that's why they try best as they can to impress that guy. We are not meant by it, unless it's a full-fledged gameplay trailer without any cheap narration or dubstep.

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:58 PM
Boats, boats and more boats. Sorry, this is nothing more than a naval/sailing game when compared to other AC games.

While it might be a decent game it is going to be a poor excuse for an AC game, of that I have no doubt.
The thing about you people is....You complain when it`s revealed about it being a naval game, you complain when a CG trailer is released that it`s a naval game, you complain when Gameplay trailer is released that it`s a naval game, you`ll complain when E3 comes that it`s a naval game, you`ll complain when you buy it that it was too much naval...can`t you just make up your mind and not buy it then and stop saying what and what is not an AC game ? not trying to be rude just genuinely curious, I mean, it`d save you a lot of time and money if you just made up your mind now and you know...just jump the boat...get it ? jump ? the boat ? naval ? Black flag ? No ? OK :|

Assassin_M
03-25-2013, 11:58 PM
Well I looked at the trailer again after getting home, not really impressed, its clear who they are marketing this to (hint its not the core ac fans).
just like how AC III`s trailer were aimed at Americans and not the rest of world ? Hardcore AC gamers are gonna remain here no matter what..we read the articles, surf the net, browse the forums....These trailers are for casuals and Hollywood enthusiasts

ProletariatPleb
03-25-2013, 11:59 PM
Well it's fine if they stick that to the trailers(like Bioshock Infi) but if they change the game according to that and make it easy to that casuals can plague our media then I have a problem and that is exactly what's been happening and why I have a problem.

Jack_Pirate
03-26-2013, 12:03 AM
Im ready to kill some whales and post videos of myself doing it in the PETA forums. Who's with me lads?

ArabianFrost
03-26-2013, 12:05 AM
Well it's fine if they stick that to the trailers(like Bioshock Infi) but if they change the game according to that and make it easy to that casuals can plague our media then I have a problem and that is exactly what's been happening and why I have a problem.

Those tumblr guys and wacky fangirls count as casuals, right?

Assassin_M
03-26-2013, 12:05 AM
Well it's fine if they stick that to the trailers(like Bioshock Infi) but if they change the game according to that and make it easy to that casuals can plague our media then I have a problem and that is exactly what's been happening and why I have a problem.
exactly.. AC III focused mostly on Patriotism and Big battles...did we have the amount of "MURICA" and Battles in the game as in trailers ?? LOL NO xD

ProletariatPleb
03-26-2013, 12:06 AM
Those tumblr guys and wacky fangirls count as casuals, right?
Yes.

ArabianFrost
03-26-2013, 12:06 AM
Im ready to kill some whales and post videos of myself doing it in the PETA forums. Who's with me lads?

We do not condone whaling or general debauchery, but we only seek to report history as it is blah blah blah

D.I.D.
03-26-2013, 12:07 AM
Sid - have you tried using that ubermod, that improves the graphics on just about any game, on the ACs? Annoyingly I can't remember the name of it at the moment, and Google is giving me more Skyrim than I can handle.

FrankieSatt
03-26-2013, 12:09 AM
The thing about you people is....You complain when it`s revealed about it being a naval game, you complain when a CG trailer is released that it`s a naval game, you complain when Gameplay trailer is released that it`s a naval game, you`ll complain when E3 comes that it`s a naval game, you`ll complain when you buy it that it was too much naval...can`t you just make up your mind and not buy it then and stop saying what and what is not an AC game ? not trying to be rude just genuinely curious, I mean, it`d save you a lot of time and money if you just made up your mind now and you know...just jump the boat...get it ? jump ? the boat ? naval ? Black flag ? No ? OK :|

As a fan of the series and one who has bought every single AC game I have a RIGHT to voice my opinion, no matter how much it irritates you. I want the best AC game and the best for the series, Black Flag isn't it based on what I've seen.

UbiSoft and the dev team are watering down the series by putting out crap. They have done ruined the "Current Time LIne" to the point that no one cares about it nor does even remotely make sense any more. They are destroying the anscetors time lines by putting out crap assassin's such as Connor and now Edward Kenway.

A Pirate as an assassin? That doesn't even remotely make sense.

You might not like my opinions but I'm **** well going to voice them when I see fit.

rupok2
03-26-2013, 12:09 AM
just like how AC III`s trailer were aimed at Americans and not the rest of world ? Hardcore AC gamers are gonna remain here no matter what..we read the articles, surf the net, browse the forums....These trailers are for casuals and Hollywood enthusiasts

Besides the ac 3 cg trailer which gameplay footage was aimed at americans? Cause I don't recall any besides tokw.

ArabianFrost
03-26-2013, 12:11 AM
Yes.

This is when a smaller game becomes a better option. I'd say a fanbase the size of Dishonored is pretty much ideal, but I believe it won't properly fund the games. Guess we'll just have to compromise for the sake of more.