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SeaFireLIV
03-22-2004, 04:49 PM
Doesn`t mean it needs whining on. Silly whine posts popping up lately in ORR...


(Come on then who`s gonna try to be clever and repeat again that line: `whining about whining`).

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SeaFireLIV
03-22-2004, 04:49 PM
Doesn`t mean it needs whining on. Silly whine posts popping up lately in ORR...


(Come on then who`s gonna try to be clever and repeat again that line: `whining about whining`).

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Chuck_Older
03-22-2004, 04:53 PM
It's rubbish that I can't use the releif tube in a P-51. It is there historically. Oleg, if you don't make the releif tube functional I shall hold my breath till I turn blue.

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zugfuhrer
03-22-2004, 04:55 PM
And who are you to judge what is silly or not?

Chuck_Older
03-22-2004, 05:02 PM
You are who to judge what is not or silly? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Excite yourself down, you seem to be taking this thread a little personally.

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arcadeace
03-22-2004, 05:17 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif whining about whining http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

SeaFireLIV
03-22-2004, 05:22 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Well it`s true. Can`t wait to see Oleg say, `To hell with this` in Russian mode and cop out of flight simming... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

It`s not so much the whining, but the rudeness of it. Where`s that cool film of that whiny kid demanding everything.

Oh, hi, Zugfuhrer.

Taylortony
03-22-2004, 05:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
It's rubbish that I can't use the releif tube in a P-51. It is there historically. Oleg, if you don't make the releif tube functional I shall hold my breath till I turn blue.

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

just use the cd drive, that'll make the sparks fly

arcadeace
03-22-2004, 05:25 PM
Oleg is more obsessed than the whiners http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Chuck_Older
03-22-2004, 05:26 PM
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I can't. It's already my cup-holder.

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carguy_
03-22-2004, 05:30 PM
There isn`t really a reason why one should whine.AFAIK there will be one last downloadable addon.And it`ll put an end to a wonderfull IL2/FB history.
In order to live longer FB will need it`s code to be opened to public.
That is where most ppl will quit.

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Arrrra
03-22-2004, 05:30 PM
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This is a great sim [PERIOD] whining should "IMO" be kept to a minimum or not at all. I think simmer's are starting to act like spoiled http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gifchildren.

I read all the time:

1.The plane specs are off
2.the flight model is off
3.the weapon damage is off

In reality, unless you actually flew these OR any modern\WWII planes in REAL combat, you can't comment on representation. You also, can't read documentation on the subject matter of flight characteristics, weapon damage, etc... and become an expert without actually participating and applying what you may have read\learned.

***I hope my point is clear.***

So, let's take the good with the bad and enjoy the experience of simulations.

Main Entry: sim‚∑u‚∑la‚∑tion
Pronunciation: "sim-y&-'lA-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English simulacion, from Middle French, from Latin simulation-, simulatio, from simulare
1 : the act or process of simulating
2 : a sham object : COUNTERFEIT
3 a : the imitative representation of the functioning of one system or process by means of the functioning of another &lt;a computer simulation of an industrial process&gt; b : examination of a problem often not subject to direct experimentation by means of a simulating device

GET IT?? Its a SIMULATION. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

steve_v
03-22-2004, 05:31 PM
Best one I've ever seen. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Pencil rolls....
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=34810483&p=1

SeaFireLIV
03-22-2004, 05:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy_:
There isn`t really a reason why one should whine.AFAIK there will be one last downloadable addon.And it`ll put an end to a wonderfull IL2/FB history.
In order to live longer FB will need it`s code to be opened to public.
That is where most ppl will quit.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You gotta point there. That`s why we need the offline Campaign`s and AI sorted. At least IMHO. Good points, arrrra, you should tell some o` those guys in ORR.

edit: Yea, I remember the pencil rolls thread... But that was funny! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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LEXX_Luthor
03-22-2004, 05:37 PM
Arrrra:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>This is a great sim [PERIOD] whining should "IMO" be kept to a minimum or not at all. I think simmer's are starting to act like spoiled children.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> The mommies buy the brat FB to shut him up. Smart moms too cos they know while the brat throws temper tantrum on internet he is quiet at home and when he is finished crying he falls asleep.

Smart Moms raise their kids on teh FB.


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VW-IceFire
03-22-2004, 05:41 PM
My whine: Tempest V shoulda been the first plane in the game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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HellToupee
03-22-2004, 08:22 PM
right after the spit VIII

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icrash
03-22-2004, 08:35 PM
only whine I got is I still trash the planes landing. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Well, that and I still go "cool look at the tracers" as they go streaming by the canopy. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

JR_Greenhorn
03-22-2004, 11:44 PM
Edit:
Main Entry: sim‚∑u‚∑la‚∑tion
Pronunciation: "sim-y&-'lA-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English simulacion, from Middle French, from Latin simulation-, simulatio, from simulare
1 : http://www.il2sturmovik-fr.com/images/IL2FBAEP_packshot.jpg
2 : the act or process of simulating
3 : a sham object : COUNTERFEIT
4 a : the imitative representation of the functioning of one system or process by means of the functioning of another &lt;a computer simulation of an industrial process&gt; b : examination of a problem often not subject to direct experimentation by means of a simulating device

Korolov
03-23-2004, 12:05 AM
I hereby declare myself as the first "invisible-tree-thats-only-on-perfect-mode-and-pwns-all-other-planes-in-the-game" whiner!

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adlabs6
03-23-2004, 12:22 AM
I whine too you know. I only whine about that bug where the P-40 fuel droptank explodes like a bomb (even with the fuse delay you set!!). I choose only to whine about that one thing because I found it, and mentioned it here before others did.

I also discovered that "humorous" hidden message in the P-40 cockpit. I don't whine about that though. I think it's funny.

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F19_Ob
03-23-2004, 02:53 AM
In sweden we have a motto; Whining instead of doing.

a good one I think.

WOLFMondo
03-23-2004, 04:28 AM
I come from a nation of whiners.

The Whining kingdom of Great Britain. If theres somthing the whine about you can guarentee one of us Limeys has already written an essay on it and petitioned parliament to pass a law on it.

Does this mean its open season on whining about the La 'uberl337' 7?

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LEXX_Luthor
03-23-2004, 04:41 AM
What are you all Whining about?

When AEP came out here in USA all was Misery and Whine. http://www.sf-fandom.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/crying.gif

When AEP came out in Europe all was Happiness and Shine. http://www.sf-fandom.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/sun_smiley.gif

Although, you know they say, New Zealand is really Crying right about now. http://www.sf-fandom.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/cry.gif They won't get AEP until hehe probably June.



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SeaFireLIV
03-23-2004, 04:47 AM
Is that a compliment for us Brits, Lexx? Thnx. You`re a big fan of Cleopatra aren`t you. Must admit, nice girls.

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michapma
03-23-2004, 06:47 AM
I honestly think that if the aircraft were as hard to learn to manage and fly as in real life (assuming the hardware could handle it) that most people would not be able to put up with it. They would in fact find it rather boring.

That's why I've come to consider FB more as a game than a simulator. It does strike a rather good balance, but the point of it is to have fun in a challenging environment.

I also think it's funny that most of the people complaining about flight and damage models and so on don't seem to be wanting increased realism with a view toward using historic tactics.

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michapma
03-23-2004, 07:03 AM
I am preparing some comments for the pencil arguments but I need to check my results first. I think most of the eraser arguments are superfluous in light of combat constraints, but I might do some thinking on that too. I have sources that say many pilots removed their erasers by hand because of their negative effect on performance, but more importantly because they didn't want to be tempted into erasing efforts when their attention was needed at critical moments.

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LEXX_Luthor
03-23-2004, 07:30 AM
OLEG I saw on Bugs Bunny when you run out of gas your plane stops just before it hits the ground PLEASE FIX THIS and please take out the Gremlin you modded in LW planes unless all planes have Gremlins and why don't VVS planes have Gremlins like all the others planes this is obviously BIAS!!



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michapma
03-23-2004, 10:06 AM
No. It is when your plane runs out of gremlins that it stops short of hitting the ground. Remember that your gremlin gauge is going to show full until you are below 25% gremlins. Bugs Bunny is entertaining enough, but you really must quote reliable sources. Please do good research or stop interfering with serious flight model questions with your Looney Tunes.

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Platypus_1.JaVA
03-23-2004, 10:20 AM
I can't wine about AEP. Because,

THE BLOODY THING WON'T INSTALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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crazyivan1970
03-23-2004, 10:42 AM
stevo...LMAO... how did i miss that post http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JaVA, start PT with me... will set you up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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_VR_ScorpionWorm
03-23-2004, 11:22 AM
Woah http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif just finished reading that Pencil rolls thread, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif, just couldn't stop laughing, wish I was online at that time. Now that is great whining. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Platypus_1.JaVA
03-23-2004, 12:11 PM
I overreacted a bit. I browsed the "community help" part of the forum a bit and found the solution. The language registry key is the problem (the absence of it) thanks anyways for offering help CrazyIvan http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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