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pirate1802
03-03-2013, 08:04 PM
So what do you think, will this game feature multiple cities like every past numbered title? I think it should, to justify the number. And that leaked map showed some locations. Discuss :cool:

montagemik
03-03-2013, 08:08 PM
Leaked MAP = Question answers itself doesn't it ?

Disciple930
03-03-2013, 08:11 PM
I would be surprised if there wasn't. Kingston, Havana Bay, Port-au-Prince? Plus, since I'm almost positive they'll allow you to free-roam in your ship, there's bound to be some pretty neat small islands with villages/settlements/towns on them.

lothario-da-be
03-03-2013, 08:14 PM
i would be dissapointed if there is only 1 city.

pirate1802
03-03-2013, 08:15 PM
Leaked MAP = Question answers itself doesn't it ?

Not really, it could simply be a map of the region. the actual map not the gameplay map. hence the doubt. :p


i would be dissapointed if there is only 1 city.

Agreed. It wouldn't be a deserving numbered title then, in my books.

deskp
03-03-2013, 08:22 PM
Seems the locations fits multiple smaller towns. (not that im aware of the hisotry or locations)

lothario-da-be
03-03-2013, 08:28 PM
Not really, it could simply be a map of the region. the actual map not the gameplay map. hence the doubt. :p



Agreed. It wouldn't be a deserving numbered title then, in my books.
I would love 4 or 5 smaller cities that are diverse and realy well made over 1 city like Rome.

Farlander1991
03-03-2013, 08:28 PM
Well, we're going to have Havana, Kingston and Nassau as the cities. The map has them as very large letters, so that's pretty evident.

Rugterwyper32
03-03-2013, 08:32 PM
Havana is probably gonna be the biggest city of the three, I'm sure. But the other two will work perfectly with the game still.

dxsxhxcx
03-03-2013, 08:34 PM
IMO this is the perfect opportunity to go back to AC1/2 style, give us several cities, make the sea be the new kingdom/frontier and like suggested above, add a few islands with forests, small villages, etc on it...

deskp
03-03-2013, 08:40 PM
IMO this is the perfect opportunity to go back to AC1/2 style, give us several cities, make the sea be the new kingdom/frontier and like suggested above, add a few islands with forests, small villages, etc on it...
Umm, ac3 worked like that, 2 cities, the frontier inbetween and the homestead.

lothario-da-be
03-03-2013, 08:41 PM
IMO this is the perfect opportunity to go back to AC1/2 style, give us several cities, make the sea be the new kingdom/frontier and like suggested above, add a few islands with forests, small villages, etc on it...
That would be excellent, but do they have enough time for that? They started developping spring 2011.

dxsxhxcx
03-03-2013, 08:42 PM
Umm, ac3 worked like that, 2 cities, the frontier inbetween and the homestead.

Homestead was kinda pointless for me, I would've prefered have another city of the size of the homestead

Locopells
03-03-2013, 08:44 PM
That would be excellent, but do they have enough time for that? They started developing spring 2011.

Town's be smaller though, surely?

ACfan443
03-03-2013, 08:47 PM
I'm surprised cities have barely been discussed, does anyone know what the cities were like in that time period, the architecture? Colour? Density? Size?

Farlander1991
03-03-2013, 08:48 PM
AC2 had too many cities. Florence, Venice, San Gimignano, Forli, Monterrigioni. Monterrigioni is a home base like Masyaf, so, I'm fine with not having a lot of missions there. But in terms of other things, most of the missions were in Florence and Venice. Some in San Gimignano. Forli... even with the DLC, there was barely anything to do in Forli.

lothario-da-be
03-03-2013, 08:50 PM
AC2 had too many cities. Florence, Venice, San Gimignano, Forli, Monterrigioni. Monterrigioni is a home base like Masyaf, so, I'm fine with not having a lot of missions there. But in terms of other things, most of the missions were in Florence and Venice. Some in San Gimignano. Forli... even with the DLC, there was barely anything to do in Forli.
New York in ac3 has barely 3 missions.

Farlander1991
03-03-2013, 08:57 PM
New York in ac3 has barely 3 missions.

8 story missions (two of which are in inside locations).

But AC3 is inadmissible evidence, since it doesn't have enough content all around :p It's similar to AC1 in that regard.

With the exception of the Homestead. That's the only area that's filled with content to its full potential.

dxsxhxcx
03-03-2013, 08:57 PM
Town's be smaller though, surely?

exactly, they just need to make the cities smaller (IMO there isn't much reason to make them huge if the missions continue to be linear anyway), IMO the size of the cities in AC1/2 was perfect, constantly change cities while we advance in the game also make things fresh, since ACB I have a feeling that I'm always in the same place in these huge cities, but like pointed out by Farlander1991, they just need to be careful to add a good amount of missions in each city...


8 story missions (two of which are in inside locations).

But AC3 is inadmissible evidence, since it doesn't have enough content all around http://static5.cdn.ubi.com/u/ubiforums/20120411.419/images/smilies/tongue.png It's similar to AC1 in that regard.



at least in AC1 we had access to a different district of the town in each assassination and the missions (even if repetitive) took place in these new areas and not the entire map, in AC3 I often found myself using the same (or similar) routes I did in previous missions...

Disciple930
03-03-2013, 09:02 PM
I'm surprised cities have barely been discussed, does anyone know what the cities were like in that time period, the architecture? Colour? Density? Size?

I was actually unsure of this too. But looking at a screenshot, it seems at least one of the cities' architecture is very similar to Mexico. I've been to Honduras, Bolivia, and Cozumel, Mexico on vacation, and it seems very reminiscent of that.

Rugterwyper32
03-03-2013, 09:50 PM
In surprised cities have barely been discussed, does anyone know what the cities were like in that time period, the architecture? Colour? Density? Size?

Havana was the third biggest city in the Americas by that point, only behind Mexico City and Lima. Architecture? Welll, a few examples

http://clio.missouristate.edu/chuchiak/Colonial%20Havana.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Panorama_of_La_Habana_%28Amsterdam%2C_17th_century %29.jpg
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/369746/1/Old-Colonial-Architecture-In-Havana,-Cuba.jpg
http://www.arteyfotografia.com.ar/contenido/objetos/f5/5a/e8/f55ae87c7a1bc367e84da5d5c000140833098c96/12491_1278810971933725.jpg (This is about 25 years after when this game is set, but it should still give you the idea)

As for the other two cities? Well, here's New Providence island, where Nassau is, and you can have the idea of the size of the city there
http://www.oldfortbay.com/images/nassau_1000.jpg

As for Kingston, a map of it in 1740
http://www.history-map.com/picture/002/pictures/Kingston-Jamaica.jpg

It's next to impossible to find stuff from Nassau and Kingston as old as that. Havana certainly was easier.

ACfan443
03-03-2013, 09:52 PM
Havana was the third biggest city in the Americas by that point, only behind Mexico City and Lima. Architecture? Welll, a few examples

http://clio.missouristate.edu/chuchiak/Colonial%20Havana.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Panorama_of_La_Habana_%28Amsterdam%2C_17th_century %29.jpg
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/369746/1/Old-Colonial-Architecture-In-Havana,-Cuba.jpg
http://www.arteyfotografia.com.ar/contenido/objetos/f5/5a/e8/f55ae87c7a1bc367e84da5d5c000140833098c96/12491_1278810971933725.jpg (This is about 25 years after when this game is set, but it should still give you the idea)

As for the other two cities? Well, here's New Providence island, where Nassau is, and you can have the idea of the size of the city there
http://www.oldfortbay.com/images/nassau_1000.jpg

As for Kingston, a map of it in 1740
http://www.history-map.com/picture/002/pictures/Kingston-Jamaica.jpg

It's next to impossible to find stuff from Nassau and Kingston as old as that. Havana certainly was easier.

Great work! :)

Rugterwyper32
03-03-2013, 09:56 PM
I was actually unsure of this too. But looking at a screenshot, it seems at least one of the cities' architecture is very similar to Mexico. I've been to Honduras, Bolivia, and Cozumel, Mexico on vacation, and it seems very reminiscent of that.

Well, Cuba was a Spanish colony all along. Bahamas was only of their interest because of slave labor, and more British were around that area. Nassau was also pirate heaven back then, so expect to see a lot of ships and pirates walking around. And Jamaica is an interesting place. I have the feeling it'll look more like a British area, but if the remains of Port Royal are explorable, we'll have more of a Spanish combined with British touch. That should be interesting.

ajl992008
03-03-2013, 11:40 PM
i want there to be 3-4 cities along with forests, we dont need one large frontier but maybe smaller forests that surround cities wold be nice. we cold have naval free roam and take our ship to various islands ans hopefully have naval attack random events.

Escappa
03-03-2013, 11:54 PM
Don't forget the three assassin signs as well, maybe small harbor-villages we can visit where our brotherhood are? :)

WakefulRainbow6
03-04-2013, 12:25 AM
Where is this map?????

Disciple930
03-04-2013, 12:26 AM
Where is this map?????

Back of the poster you get for pre-ordering the game.

Escappa
03-04-2013, 12:26 AM
http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Assassins-Creed-4-Black-Flag-Caribbean-Map-570x366.jpg

WakefulRainbow6
03-04-2013, 12:34 AM
Thanks!!

LoyalACFan
03-04-2013, 01:26 AM
I bet Kingston, Nassau, and Havana will be the three primary ones, and the three areas in boxes will be smaller areas, maybe the size of the Homestead or even smaller. Like outposts for the Brotherhood or something.

pirate1802
03-04-2013, 04:02 AM
New York in ac3 has barely 3 missions.

Yeah, New York in AC3 was terribly underutilized. We barely got any missions there. The point when we arrived in NY should have been the halfway point, like Venice in AC2. But over here it was like the 3/4th mark? Hope all the cities in AC IV get equal treatment. I don't want huge cities with humungous population at this point, just that the missions are ore or less equally divided amongst them.

pirate1802
03-04-2013, 04:58 AM
Does anyone have a bigger version of that map pic?

ProletariatPleb
03-04-2013, 05:01 AM
Does anyone have a bigger version of that map pic?
Largest I have, also has Kraptaku watermark.

http://puu.sh/2bN7H

Click this for full size (http://puu.sh/2bN7H)

pirate1802
03-04-2013, 05:07 AM
Thanks. Now, I must get to work.. *puts on his monocle and starts to study the map*