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skunkertx7
02-22-2004, 08:39 AM
The last 'dogfight' of WWII took place in April 1945, when an unarmed Piper Cub spotter plane of the 5Th Armored Division met up with an unarmed Fieseler Storch spotter plane. The two American crewmen fired their Colt .45's at the German plane and forced it down. The Piper crew then landed and took the Germans prisoner. It was the only German plane to be shot down with a handgun in WWII.

skunkertx7
02-22-2004, 08:39 AM
The last 'dogfight' of WWII took place in April 1945, when an unarmed Piper Cub spotter plane of the 5Th Armored Division met up with an unarmed Fieseler Storch spotter plane. The two American crewmen fired their Colt .45's at the German plane and forced it down. The Piper crew then landed and took the Germans prisoner. It was the only German plane to be shot down with a handgun in WWII.

02-22-2004, 08:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by skunkertx7:
The last 'dogfight' of WWII took place in April 1945, when an unarmed Piper Cub spotter plane of the 5Th Armored Division met up with an unarmed Fieseler Storch spotter plane. The two American crewmen fired their Colt .45's at the German plane and forced it down. The Piper crew then landed and took the Germans prisoner. It was the only German plane to be shot down with a handgun in WWII.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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wayno7777
02-22-2004, 10:59 AM
Not so sure only one downed with handgun. I recall reading about a 51 driver having his guns jam, roll back the canopy, pull out his .45 and point it at the 109.The 109 pilot looked over at the 51 and promptly bailed out. Supposedly the 51 driver was given credit for a victory. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif I could be wrong, I read alot of stuff.

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Red_Storm
02-22-2004, 12:04 PM
All propaganda talk to lighten the strain on WWII pilots. There are a lot of German stories about this too, all probably untrue.

Jirozaemon
02-22-2004, 04:13 PM
LOL

The war ended with the unconditional surrender of the 3rd Reich on the 8th of May 1945 (in Europe). You think the last dogfight took place in April ? No way...

Beside that a lot of skill was required to down a Fi 156 using a fighter-aircraft. Nice joke with that baby 0.45 pistol - effective range: max. 50 meters (yards). Muhahhahahahhaha...

SkyChimp
02-22-2004, 04:22 PM
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The Fieseler Storch was the last dogfight victim of the western front. Pilot Duanes Francies and his observer, Lieutenant William Martin, of the 5th US Army Division, spotted a Storch circling below them while looking for ground targets in their Piper Cub. Diving on the Storch, the two men opened fire with their Colt .45s and the plane spiraled to the ground. After a short gun battle, Francies and his observer took the two Germans into custody. Lt. Martin was awarded the Air Medal for his part in the fight, but Francies would have to wait until the story was reported in Cornelius Ryan's book "The Last Battle," to finally be awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross. The USAF was 22 years late. Apart from being the last Luftwaffe plane lost in the west, this Storch was also the only enemy plane downed by pistol fire during the war.

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ianboys
02-22-2004, 04:36 PM
There were plenty of dogfights in May 45, even after Hitler's death. A good candidate for the last one has to be Bloemhertz's (JG26) fight with Spitfires. He landed in his chute as the bells for the end of the war were ringing.

WUAF_Badsight
02-22-2004, 09:37 PM
WOW !

last combat mission undertaken in WW2 was in the pacific by Bristol Beaufighters firing on ground positions over Papa New Guniea a couple days after Japan surrendered

DaBallz
02-23-2004, 04:14 AM
That was an unfair fight. The Piper J2 was able
to run circles around the storch.
And added to the superior performance the .45
Colt Model 1911 pistol had superior power
to the 9mm the Germans carried.
The 9mm had better range and accuracy.

But seriously folks, the Germans in the Storch,
apon verifying the aircraft as American probibly
wanted to surrender. They were likely heading
for the American lines to surrender as to avoid
capture/surrender to the Russians.

Da...

WOLFMondo
02-23-2004, 04:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
WOW !

last combat mission undertaken in WW2 was in the pacific by Bristol Beaufighters firing on ground positions over Papa New Guniea a couple days after Japan surrendered<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I belive the last sortie on the european theatre was done by a pair of Beaufighters as well. Can't remember what they were doing, its was somthing like attacking shipping near norway or something (i'd look it up but im at work s0...)

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MatuDa_
02-23-2004, 04:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SkyChimp:

Martin was awarded the Air Medal for his part in the fight, Francies awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross.

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