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Copperhead310th
08-01-2004, 11:43 AM
ok guys it's pinch time. we've got to get this done in a hurry. we need reaserch help. we need clean squadron regimental insignia for the airgroups of the follwing us carriers:

USS Hornet Cv-8
USS Lexington Cv-2
USS Yorktown Cv-5
USS Wasp Cv-7
USS ESSEX Cv-9
(USS Enterprise Cv-6 has been compleated) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Also any as many USMC & RAAF Squadron that you can find. these need to be clean as possible so that our graphic artist (Dizz) can see them in deatail. We're also looking for any USAAF squadrons Other than the 5th AF. 7th, 13th & 20th Af's would be great both bombers and fighters. in all cases please note the carrier and aircraft for each squadron. if land based USMC please state where. if your wondering why we're doing this just open your MAIN FB folder/ paint schemes/ Regimentals and look at all the VVS/ & LW groups in there. in any case we're fast running out of time. thanks.

either post a link to the information or email me here: copperhead@310thvfs.com

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[This message was edited by Copperhead310th on Sun August 01 2004 at 11:25 AM.]

Copperhead310th
08-01-2004, 11:43 AM
ok guys it's pinch time. we've got to get this done in a hurry. we need reaserch help. we need clean squadron regimental insignia for the airgroups of the follwing us carriers:

USS Hornet Cv-8
USS Lexington Cv-2
USS Yorktown Cv-5
USS Wasp Cv-7
USS ESSEX Cv-9
(USS Enterprise Cv-6 has been compleated) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Also any as many USMC & RAAF Squadron that you can find. these need to be clean as possible so that our graphic artist (Dizz) can see them in deatail. We're also looking for any USAAF squadrons Other than the 5th AF. 7th, 13th & 20th Af's would be great both bombers and fighters. in all cases please note the carrier and aircraft for each squadron. if land based USMC please state where. if your wondering why we're doing this just open your MAIN FB folder/ paint schemes/ Regimentals and look at all the VVS/ & LW groups in there. in any case we're fast running out of time. thanks.

either post a link to the information or email me here: copperhead@310thvfs.com

http://imageshack.us/files/copper%20sig%20with%20rank.jpg
310th FS & 380th BG website (http://www.310thVFS.com)


[This message was edited by Copperhead310th on Sun August 01 2004 at 11:25 AM.]

VF-17_Jolly
08-01-2004, 12:53 PM
http://www.airgroup4.com/fighting.htm

http://www.airgroup4.com/vflogo1.jpg

The Red Rippers


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SkyChimp
08-01-2004, 01:02 PM
VF-2
"Flying Chiefs" & "Rippers"
Deployed from:
U.S.S. Lexington (CV-2) Dec '41 - May '42 (Flying Chiefs)
U.S.S. Lexington (CV-6) Nov '43 - Jan '44 (Rippers)
U.S.S. Lexington (CV-12) March - Sept '44 (Rippers)
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf2/vf-2.jpg

VF-4
"Red Rippers"
Deployed from::
U.S.S. Ranger (CV-4) Oct '42 - Oct '43
U.S.S. Bunker Hill (CV-17) Nov '44
U.S.S. Essex (CV-9) Nov '44 - March '45
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf4/vf-4.jpg

VF-5
"Fighting Hell Cats"
Deployed from::
U.S.S. Saratoga (CV-3) Aug '42 (Tour I)
Guadalcanal Sept - Oct '42 (Tour I)
U.S.S. Yorktown (CV-10) Aug '43 - April '44 (tour II)
U.S.S. Franklin (CV-13) Feb - March '45 (tour II)
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf5/vf-5.jpg

VF-6
Deployed from:: (Tour I)
U.S.S. Enterprise (CV-6) Dec '41 - Aug '42
U.S.S. Saratoga (CV-3) Dec '42 - Feb '43
Guadalanal Feb - Aprl '43
H.M.S. Victorious June - July '43
(Tour II)
U.S.S. Independance (CVL-22),
U.S.S. Princeton (CVL-23),
U.S.S. Belleau Wood (CVL-24),
U.S.S. Cowpens (CVL-25),
U.S.S. Saratoga (CV-3),
U.S.S. Essex (CV-9), Aug -Dec '43
U.S.S. Intrepid (CV-11) Jan - Feb '44 (tour II)
(tour III)
U.S.S. Hancock (CV-19) March - April, June - Sept '45
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf6/vf6.ht1.jpg
Tour I
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf6/vf-6.jpg
Tour II

VF-9
"Cat-O-Nines" & "Hellcats"
Deployed from::
USS Ranger (CV-4) Nov '42 (tour 1)
USS Essex (CV-9) March '43 - Nov '44 (tour 2)
USS Lexington (CV-16) Feb - March '45 (tour 3)
USS Yorktown (CV-10) March - June '45 (tour 3)
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf9/VF-9.jpg

VF-10
"Grim Reapers"
Deployed from::
USS Enterprise (CV-6) Oct '42 - Feb '43 (tour 1)
USS Enterprise (CV-6) Jan - July '44 (tour 2)
USS Intrepid (CV-11) Feb - April '45 (tour 3)
USS Intrepid (CV-11) July - Sept '45
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf10/VF-10.jpg

VF-15
"Fighting Aces"
Deployed from::
USS Essex (CV-9) May - Nov '44
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf15/vf-15.jpg

VF-16
"Pistol Packin' Airdales"
Deployed from::
USS Lexington (CV16) Sept '43 - June '44 (tour 1)
USS Randolph (CV-15) June - Sept '45 (tour 2)
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf16/vf-16.jpg

VF-17
"Jolly Rogers"
Deployed from::
Solomons Oct '43 - March '44 (1st tour)
USS Hornet (CV-12) Feb - June '45 (2nd tour)
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf17/vf-17.jpg

VF-19
"Satan's Kittens"
Deployed from::
U.S.S. Lexington (CV-16) July - November '44
http://www.web-birds.com/usn/vf19/vf19.jpg

Regards,
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tarot312
08-01-2004, 01:32 PM
USMC VMF-312
"Day's Kights"/"Checkerboards"

NAS North Island, San Diego 43
USS Hornet (CV-12) Feb 44
USS Nassau (CVE-16) June 44
Ulithi Atoll, in the Caroline Island group. Sept 44
Ponam Island in the Admiralties. Oct 44
Luganville Airfield on Espiritu Santo. Dec 44
USS Hollandia (CVE-67), VMF-312 became the first fighter squadron to arrive at Kadena airstrip
March 45 - Feb 4 46
USS Cape Gloucester (CVE-109) and arrived in San Diego on 26 February 1946

http://www.312mfr.com/Photos/VMF-312patch.gif

VMF-312 "Day's Knights"(Checkerboards) (http://www.312mfr.com/VMFA-312/vmf-312.html) Pacific Fighter F4U Corsair squadron

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Latico
08-01-2004, 01:44 PM
Hey Sky and Jolly, why you just post VF patches? He asked for Air **GROUPS**. That includes VS, VB, VT squadrons, too.

The airgroup4 link also has info and patches for the VMF-124 and 213.
VMF-124/213 (http://www.airgroup4.com/marine.htm)

Fighter squadrons didn't fight the enemy alone ya know.

SkyChimp
08-01-2004, 02:34 PM
Copper can Google up his answers just like anyone else.

If he wants good unit insignias, he may have to buy a book. I recommend:

http://www.aeroplanebooks.com/misc108.jpg
U.S. NAVY AIRCRAFT 1921-1941; U.S. MARINE CORPS AIRCRAFT 1914-1959, Larkins, William, Orion Books

It has what he is looking for.

Regards,
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SkyChimp
08-01-2004, 02:39 PM
And BTW, I posted a website some time ago that had what he was looking for the first time he asked.

http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchNAVYPg.html

Regards,
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VF-17_Jolly
08-01-2004, 02:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Latico:
Hey Sky and Jolly, why you just post VF patches? He asked for Air **GROUPS**. That includes VS, VB, VT squadrons, too.

The airgroup4 link also has info and patches for the VMF-124 and 213.
http://www.airgroup4.com/marine.htm



Fighter squadrons didn't fight the enemy alone ya know.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you read further it also contains links to vb and vt squadrons
http://www.airgroup4.com/book/tlogo4.gif VT-4

http://www.airgroup4.com/Top2.gif VB-4

and the marine squadrons happen to be an attachment to air group 4

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[This message was edited by VF-17_JOLLY on Sun August 01 2004 at 02:27 PM.]

[This message was edited by VF-17_JOLLY on Sun August 01 2004 at 02:35 PM.]

VF-17_Jolly
08-01-2004, 04:36 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/POLISH_PILOT/mailedD34.jpg

VS-3 USS Yorktown june 1942 SBD

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SFViper19D
08-01-2004, 04:55 PM
Hey Jolly, I thought VF-1 was call the "Tophatters" and wore the tophat on their Hellcats. Did this change at some point? Clue me in if you can...All I can dig up on VF-1 is that they were landbased on Tarawa until Feb44 and then transferred to the Yorktown CV-10.
http://www.airgroup4.com/Top2.gif

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/651_1091032066_gi_hellcat.jpg

Snuffy Smith
08-01-2004, 05:58 PM
You said bombers and 20th AF too? B-29 Squadron Insignia of 676th:

http://mysite.verizon.net/res7kxfm/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/676bs240.jpg

676th Bombardment Squadron (Very Heavy), 444th Group, 58th Wing, 20th Air Force. India, China, Tinian Island.

"I wanted wings till I got the gosh darned things; now I don't want'em anymore."
I just want the peek-a-boo blonde.
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Latico
08-01-2004, 06:07 PM
I had found a web page and posted it in another thread that listed all the VF squadrons. There is some confusion created by the fact that some squadrons were dispersed and other squadrons assembled. Sometimes the newer squadrons would take on the Numbers of an older dispersed squad, but using a different name. Or, the nw squadron would be assigned a new number and they would adopt the name of an old dispersed squadron.

Ya see how this could be confusing when trying to research a squadros history. I think 2 different squadrons used the Top Hatters name (at different periods, of course).

Gunny124
08-01-2004, 10:35 PM
CH, check your e-mail.

VF-17_Jolly
08-02-2004, 12:42 PM
Bombing 4 (VB-4)


Bombing Squadron 4 (VB-4) was formed from various segments of the Scouting Squadrons VS-41 and VS-42 after the USS RangerÔ┬┤s involvement in Anglo-American operations in Morocco and Algeria in November, 1942 (OPERATION TORCH).

Bombing 4 was known as the "Top Hatters." The "Top Hatters" designation has been traced by Thomas Gates from its origin as a Scouting Squadron to its final use by the jet squadron "Fighting Fourteen."





During WWII, VB-4 flew Douglas "Dauntless" SBDs and Curtis "Helldiver" SB2Cs.

http://www.tophatters.home.dhs.org/

VF-14 is the oldest US Navy squadron in existence, being able to trace it's history all the way back to 1919, although many re-designations occurred in the first twenty-five years. Before becoming VF-14 the Tophatters were known by the designations VF-1, VS-41, VB-4, VA-1A, VA-14 and finally gaining the VF-14 title on the 15th of December 1949.
When first established as a Pacific Fleet Air Detatchment, in September of 1919, the Tophatters flew the JN, or as it was more often called the 'Jenny'.
During WWII VS-41 flew SBD-3 Dauntless torpedo bombers from the deck of USS Ranger in the North African theatre during 1942. By November of the next year the squadron had been redesignated once more, this time becoming VB-4. Aircraft had also changed, now SBD-5 Dauntlesses were used instead, this time to attacks against German forces in Norway. Late 1944 had seen a move to the Pacific theatre of war. Now flying SB2C Helldivers off the carrier USS Bunker Hill the Tophatters fought in the latter stages of the island hopping campaign. In 1945, for the last few months of the war, they switched to the USS Essex and took part in actions over Iwo Jima, Tokyo and Okinawa.
The high numbers of units involved in WWII meant that the Tophat design was used by another squadron, VF-1, who flew in the Pacific theatre for most of the war. Best evidence seems to suggest this was simply due to confusion, the 'new' Tophatters being unaware that the original squadron still existed. One of the most famous incidents in this Tophatter's history occurred when Lt. Paul Pablo encountered a swarm of Japanese fighters in the Bonin Islands. Having previously flown an entire tour without seeing a Japanese aircraft the Lieutenant was understandably anxious to meet the enemy. When he finally did it was a huge swarm of fighters. Pablo was not heard from again, but his last transmission, "I've already got four, and I've got thirty cornered" symbolises the fighter pilot's credo, that only a spirit of attack will preveil. The 'new' Tophatters were disestablished shortly after the war ended, leaving the original squadron to carry on.


confusing no....

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Copperhead310th
08-02-2004, 08:09 PM
Thanks guys Keep em comming.
we already have some of these and they are compleated and in the file ready to go out.

for VF-6 we're just doing tour 1 and not tour 2 or 3rd. would get confusing i think.
and we have VF-2 done. one of the coolest and hardest for Dizz. he put A LOT of time in on that one.

as for the "tophatters" VF-14 and VB-4 we're both called the Tophatters. in contrast our own 310th Fighter Squadron 58th Fighter Group 5th AF
were called "The Tophats" so this was in use widely throught our the us miltary. i asked my grandfath3er about it a while back who serverd with the 310th fs 58th fg in Korea at Osan and he said that the tophat thing was because they we're "the last of the big $penders". lol so i'm guessing it was the same thing in the navy as well. (but keep in mind he's 83 years old and serverd in 2 wars so his memory aint what it used to be but then again he can still remeber the serial numbers from the b-24-C-109 he was on in the CBI.... so go figure)

never the less keep em comming in and we'll keep doing them till we get as many done as we can.

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Copperhead310th
08-02-2004, 08:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SkyChimp:
And BTW, I posted a website some time ago that had what he was looking for the first time he asked.

http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchNAVYPg.html

_Regards,_
http://members.cox.net/us.fighters/signature.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oky doky chimpy.

yes you did post that web site and i already had it in my favorights before then.

as for me googling it up my self we're running out of time. @ my time is limited and i asked for help. we're doing this work FOR FREE. and if it dosnt make PF we'll realse them to the public same as i did the 8th af ones i did for AEP. the differance is these are much better than the ones i did.
and while i'm at it Chimp let me explain a few thing to you.
1 i have job that i spend 60 hrs a week at.
2. i'm managing 2 local rock bands.
3 i'm doing studio work for other bands.
4. i'm writing a book.
5. i go to the gym 3 times a week.
6. i have Wing Chun classes 4 times a week and am working toward my 3rd black sash. (9 months away) very important.
7. and still finding time for THIS HOBBY.
and many more personal things that i don't care to put out in public. so if you can find time in my scehdule to goole a few hours every day them by all means plaese dear God please point it out.

For the rest of you thanks again and please contenuie to help me with this. i only have reaserch time on the weekend and that's only limited to a few hours on sat or sunday.

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VF-17_Jolly
08-03-2004, 02:32 PM
http://www.flightsuits.com/images/patches/patch_vf3.jpg

VF-3 Yorktown and Lexington(Same as VF-6 yes)

http://www.eastmanleather.com/USAAF%20Squadron%20Patches/VB5.jpg
VB-5 Yorktown 1943

http://www.eastmanleather.com/USAAF%20Squadron%20Patches/VT5.jpg
VT-5 Yorktown 1943

http://www.eastmanleather.com/USAAF%20Squadron%20Patches/VF-5.jpg

VF-5 Yorktown 1943

http://www.eastmanleather.com/usn.htm



Patches but no dates


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[This message was edited by VF-17_JOLLY on Tue August 03 2004 at 01:54 PM.]

[This message was edited by VF-17_JOLLY on Tue August 03 2004 at 02:06 PM.]

Snuffy Smith
08-03-2004, 03:55 PM
http://www.web-birds.com/

This is a good one with a lot of 11th, 7th, 13th, and 20th AF insignia. It also has several naval air squadrons with planes flown and bases and carriers operated from.

http://www.444thbg.org/

http://home.att.net/%7Esallyann2/b29.html

The above links have good photos of squadron and plane art for 676, 677, 678, & 679 Squadrons, 444th Bomb Group, 58th Wing, 20th Air Force.

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[This message was edited by Snuffy Smith on Tue August 03 2004 at 03:10 PM.]

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VF-3Thunderboy
08-06-2004, 06:34 PM
http://www.nmia.com/~valorc/american/patchs/leather.html#Fighter

Lots of patches here!