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KIMURA
04-14-2004, 08:15 AM
I guess that's the one Mr.Tamiya (plastic models)is donating money for, for restoring it. Would be nice someone would take a heard to model that beauty.

http://www.studenten.net/customasp/axl/image/foto/24-4-2003-9-20-a├┬»chi_m6a_seiran_on_trolley.jpg

http://www.studenten.net/customasp/axl/image/foto/24-4-2003-9-21-a├┬»chi_m6a1_seiran_being_restored_in_smithsonian. jpg

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KIMURA
04-14-2004, 08:15 AM
I guess that's the one Mr.Tamiya (plastic models)is donating money for, for restoring it. Would be nice someone would take a heard to model that beauty.

http://www.studenten.net/customasp/axl/image/foto/24-4-2003-9-20-a├┬»chi_m6a_seiran_on_trolley.jpg

http://www.studenten.net/customasp/axl/image/foto/24-4-2003-9-21-a├┬»chi_m6a1_seiran_being_restored_in_smithsonian. jpg

[This message was edited by KIMURA on Wed April 14 2004 at 10:00 AM.]

j_a_l
04-14-2004, 11:57 AM
content of my previous post : I'm sure it's already on the list......

current thought : perhaps not, seem only 20 were built.

( but i'm agree, it's a fine plane. )

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[This message was edited by j_a_l on Wed April 14 2004 at 12:04 PM.]

Vortex_uk
04-14-2004, 01:44 PM
From the second pictue,without the propand the floats,it kinda looks like an Me-262 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Ruy Horta
04-14-2004, 01:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KIMURA:
I guess that's the one Mr.Tamiya (plastic models)is donating money for, for restoring it. Would be nice someone would take a heard to model that beauty<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's funny, I was thinking about this very a/c a little earlier today and its possible use in PF.

No production numbers to speak of, no operational use (well a recall doesn't count), but its got loads of X-FACTOR.

If it weren't such a undertaking to create a map in the IL2 series, a mission based upon attacking the Panama canal would be a brilliant affair. Launching from a Submarine, getting to the target, surviving to get back.

However, thinking of the many workhorses and major campaigns to be modeled, I would place this one very low in the order of things.

Ruy Horta

lbhskier37
04-14-2004, 02:11 PM
What kind of engine does that thing got? Looks like a DB

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MetalG.
04-14-2004, 02:16 PM
Got some more info on that bird, Kimura?

Chuck_Older
04-14-2004, 03:00 PM
I do http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yes, it is a DB601 based engine.

The Allies knew very little about the plane until after the war. The name means "Storm out of a clear blue sky"

A watertight tube (11'6" in diameter)mounted on the side of the conning tower on an I-400 sub was the hanger for three Seirans. The entire plane could be folded down to smaller than the prop circle, and the crews were trained to prepare a Seiran for flight in 30 minutes.

Only 28 were built, and the proposed plan was to attack the Panama Canal. Time ran out for Imperial Japan before this could be tried.

The pic above is the last Seiran built, and is at the Smitsonian. It was was restored to the condition seen above, with work concluing in 2000.

[paraphrased from the book "At the Controls", which also has gorgeous cockpit photos of all three positions in the aircraft. They carried a crew of two, but the gunner also had a position for navigation/radio operation]

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KIMURA
04-14-2004, 03:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MetalGear_:
Got some more info on that bird, Kimura?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Seiran means mist of mountain(s). There were 8 prototypes built, 18 a/c as serie and further 2 as trainer with retacable wheels instead of the float. It's topspeed was 475kph@5200m.In May 42 the Aichi Arcraft Company received the specifications to develope an special attack bomber. On Nov.1943 the 1st prototype flew its maiden flight and after some improvementsthe Aichi received the order for the production form the IJN in May 1944. The engine was a V-12 LC Atsuta 32 a licence built DB603. A 0.5" flexible mounted gun was mounted in the rear-position and a 250kg, 800kg or a Torp could be carried in the centerline pylon. The a/c was planned to be carried by I-400 submarine, in a hangar tube of 4.2m diam and 30m in lenght. Such a hangar was capable to store 3 Seirans and to start the Seirans quickly after surfacing the sub was equipped with a catapult. A flotilla including I-400 and I-401 equipped with 3 Seiran each departed from Japan on 23rd of July 45 heading for Ulithi Atoll. Both subs surrendered on 15th Aug 1945 and returned to Japan.

Here an impression how it was stored
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/a-z/kimura-hei/M6A1.jpg

and folding of all 3 control surfaces as well as the main wings.

http://mypage.bluewin.ch/a-z/kimura-hei/M6A2.jpg

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MetalG.
04-14-2004, 03:34 PM
Very interesting.
Thanks Chuck, Kimura http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

Chuck_Older
04-14-2004, 03:38 PM
I expect that "Seiran" translates a few different ways

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sugaki
04-14-2004, 05:24 PM
Meaning of Seiran is what Kimura said, "Mountain Mist" or "Mountain Haze," or "Mountain winds on a clear day."

A literal rendering of the word Seiran would mean what Chuck said, Clear Sky Storm. Although the actual word is what Kimura said, I'm sure they chose that name for the nuance of "ran" meaning storm. So Chuck's probably correct to an extent as well.