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VMF-214_Pappy
09-19-2004, 01:56 PM
I wish to start a petition to UBI and there community managers about there lack of support on the IL2 and FB game lobbies. Please post your grips and complaints and maybe we can get the attention of UBI Staff to fix some issues.

First off I do understand Il-2 FB dont bring in the green like FarCry and Raven Shield, but IL-2 FB probaly is one of the most dedicated players on the UBI game service. Some of us have been playing since game was released and so many players are being pushed over to Hyperlobby because of lack of support from UBI and there community managers.I play on both UBI and Hyperlobby, but I think UBI is a more user friendly place to play if it was only updated. Here are some of my complaints.


1: 2.04 has been released for some time now and all the rooms still read 2.01, this is very confusing to new players just getting the game and us long timers always having to direct them to the correct patches and us having to inform them that those rooms are actually 2.04 version.

2: The dedicated server program puts your server in IL-2 FB lobby when u running 2.04 dedicated for ACE.

3: Players can only host for 16 players now, this never has been the case before. Alot of ISP's are upgrading there service giving us more bandwith now. I now have 768Kbps upload and can host more than 16 on my pc but I am not allowed unless I use dedicated software that puts game in wrong lobby.

4: I have emailed Community mangers over and over the past few months to have our squadron URL changed to correct address in the Squadron directory on IL-2 homepage. No fix or response.

5. Those using a router still cannot host. This is not true with other games but here on UBI it is. I just started using a router to network and I can no longer host and no fix has been published.

6. Support is no-existant. Support consists of long time players helping newer players in the lobby getting there game going.

I have purchased each copy of the game and the addons. I think customers of UBI deserve proper support. Either support the game and the game lobby or take it down. Failure of UBI to support this game moves over 1000 Players over to Hyperlobby, now I know UBI could use those 1000 players on there game service and advertisements could bring them in more money.
I hope all players that are disatisfied with there service post there complaints as well. Maybe if we get a couple hundred post on this topic UBI might open there eyes.

Thank You for your time.
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VMF-214_Pappy
09-19-2004, 01:56 PM
I wish to start a petition to UBI and there community managers about there lack of support on the IL2 and FB game lobbies. Please post your grips and complaints and maybe we can get the attention of UBI Staff to fix some issues.

First off I do understand Il-2 FB dont bring in the green like FarCry and Raven Shield, but IL-2 FB probaly is one of the most dedicated players on the UBI game service. Some of us have been playing since game was released and so many players are being pushed over to Hyperlobby because of lack of support from UBI and there community managers.I play on both UBI and Hyperlobby, but I think UBI is a more user friendly place to play if it was only updated. Here are some of my complaints.


1: 2.04 has been released for some time now and all the rooms still read 2.01, this is very confusing to new players just getting the game and us long timers always having to direct them to the correct patches and us having to inform them that those rooms are actually 2.04 version.

2: The dedicated server program puts your server in IL-2 FB lobby when u running 2.04 dedicated for ACE.

3: Players can only host for 16 players now, this never has been the case before. Alot of ISP's are upgrading there service giving us more bandwith now. I now have 768Kbps upload and can host more than 16 on my pc but I am not allowed unless I use dedicated software that puts game in wrong lobby.

4: I have emailed Community mangers over and over the past few months to have our squadron URL changed to correct address in the Squadron directory on IL-2 homepage. No fix or response.

5. Those using a router still cannot host. This is not true with other games but here on UBI it is. I just started using a router to network and I can no longer host and no fix has been published.

6. Support is no-existant. Support consists of long time players helping newer players in the lobby getting there game going.

I have purchased each copy of the game and the addons. I think customers of UBI deserve proper support. Either support the game and the game lobby or take it down. Failure of UBI to support this game moves over 1000 Players over to Hyperlobby, now I know UBI could use those 1000 players on there game service and advertisements could bring them in more money.
I hope all players that are disatisfied with there service post there complaints as well. Maybe if we get a couple hundred post on this topic UBI might open there eyes.

Thank You for your time.
VMF-214_Pappy CO The Black Sheep Squadron

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Hawgdog
09-19-2004, 01:57 PM
Goooooooooooood luck!
oh, by the way, I can host with my router.
Used both D-link and what ever I got now. You need to go to router server and "allow" that intrusion, fairly easy. I know others who host on routers as well.


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VMF-214_Pappy
09-19-2004, 02:00 PM
Well I am running DMZ host on both machines and I can host but nobody can join.

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Opti_FOG
09-19-2004, 02:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hawgdog:
Goooooooooooood luck!
oh, by the way, I can host with my router.
Used both D-link and what ever I got now. You need to go to router server and "allow" that intrusion, fairly easy. I know others who host on routers as well.


From what I know and can see, It is possible to host in UBI when you're behind a router. The only problem with that would be that no one else can join, they would get a time-out. On the other hand, it is possible to host behind a router in HL.

No matter how many ports you forward to your host machine, it is impossible to host in UBI behind a router.

Hawgdog, if there is a way go ahead and tell everyone how this is done. I'm sure thousands of people would love to know.

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MEGILE
09-19-2004, 02:27 PM
Hosting behind a router does not require a "fix".. only the neccesary ports open and forwarded to the host machine. UBI uses a number of ports, aswell as the default IL2 21000 port, which for the life of me I cannot remember..
check a FAQ somewhere or google.com

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VMF-214_Pappy
09-19-2004, 03:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Megile:
Hosting behind a router does not require a "fix".. only the neccesary ports open and forwarded to the host machine. UBI uses a number of ports, aswell as the default IL2 21000 port, which for the life of me I cannot remember..
check a FAQ somewhere or google.com

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Okay anways, does this correct the other issues about UBI. This is not meant to be a router hosting issue, it is meant to be a UBI open your eyes and support all your games issue.

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T_O_A_D
09-19-2004, 04:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>4: I have emailed Community mangers over and over the past few months to have our squadron URL changed to correct address in the Squadron directory on IL-2 homepage. No fix or response.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This needs directed to Extreme_One (http://il2submissions@ubisoft.co.uk) He is in charge of it. I tried for two years then when EO took over it was fixed.

As for the router thing I too would like to be able to host behind a router using the UBI Soft game controller.

Since becoming a Mod I have tried ot spend some more time over there, instead of Hyperlobby.

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
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motlee2
09-19-2004, 06:49 PM
Hey Pappy-Yes ,I have to agree with you.I have not been on UBI.comm for that long,but I do feel there is a need for newbes,aswell as for all of us to get more support,especially in the lobby area.I understand there are forums for help,but when someone comes on board for the first time it can be frustrating.One thing that would help is changing the patch page to look more like a scematic layout.This layout whold be less confussing and more to the point.My first inpression of it was,confussion and made to hinder.Theres too much between the lines,type reading.----See you in the skys--out
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WUAF_Badsight
09-20-2004, 12:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VMF-214_Pappy:
Maybe if we get a couple hundred post on this topic UBI might open there eyes.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i cant agree with you more about the points you raised pappy . . . . but i dont think for a second that UBI cares for the Combat Flight Sim market much . . . . if at all

we are a small hard-to-please sector of the gaming world that holds very small profit margins if compared to other genres

good luck & bump

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Opti_FOG
09-20-2004, 07:17 AM
If this game had a few thousand players in the lobby at any given time do you think UBI would give us a bit more suport? I would say yes. I see it this way, being that there are only about 160 players max in IL2 FB ACE they don't see it as a priority to fix any issues with their software. Maybe we should all play FPS games to get our tech support........

Tully__
09-20-2004, 07:56 AM
Believe it or not, FB is little (if any) more neglected than other games. You will see similar complaints on Ubi's other game forums about these and other problems for just about all of Ubi's multiplayer games. The game lobby admins seem to be a different group to the forum admins/community managers from comments I've seen from the admins here, so don't give UbiRazz and the other admins here too hard a time. They can pass things on, but don't seem to have direct control.

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MEGILE
09-20-2004, 08:01 AM
hehe sure.. it may only be an answer to one of your complaints.. but hey... its an answer http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 5. Those using a router still cannot host. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Scrub it off the list, because it simply is not true http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You know what, I'm feeling generous.. here are the ports right from the UBI help pages..

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The ports required for ubi.com are 80, 6667, 40000-42000

80: Usual Web Port
6667: Usual Chat Port
40000-42000: Required Port for ubi.com
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Have fun http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Platypus_1.JaVA
09-20-2004, 09:06 AM
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Download, install and never look back again...

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BM357_TinMan
09-20-2004, 09:18 AM
Rgr, this Thread

Hyperlobby is great, but has some certain limitations.

I would love to host on UBI, but they got that thing so messed up it is impossible.

As for the router thing, it is NOT NOT NOT NOT a question of ports. The problem is, for some reason, for most of us, the stupid UBI software on the IL2 site send out the INTERNAL IP instead of the EXTERNAL IP of the host machine to the clients.

I host GR on UBI with no probs, I know about forwarding ports. Sry, not supposed to be a router issue thread I'll stop

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Opti_FOG
09-20-2004, 09:41 AM
You're right TinMan, it's not a router issue. The real issue is when will UBI finally fix their product. We all spent the money for the game, the game works fine but the hosting program from UBI does not work. Isn't it funny that their software will work in a third party program such as HyperLobby but will not work in its own hosting program. I just hope that the PF server will be able to run in UBI..

VF-10_Snacky
09-20-2004, 10:37 AM
Hyperlobby is just a perfect example of the kiss system working.

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Zen--
09-20-2004, 03:44 PM
I lend my 'vote' of support to Pappy and echo his sentiments, even though I don't fly there anymore (in part because of the lack of support). I am in favor of the game being the best that it can be in all areas however, and as remote as it may seem to some, the UBI lobby is still a big part of the game.

I'm not here to bag on UBI either but I wish they could get some things in gear also...it just doesn't set a good example with the way the lobby is currently run.


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-Zen-

B16Enk
09-20-2004, 04:26 PM
I'll chip in on this one too.

It used to work fine, then come one update after the 1.2 fiasco (where customers were required to edit their registries) it went down hill.

The MOTD is always several patches behind, extorting users to install an out of date patch http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

This is a classic example of a silent sales tool being neglected. It's part of the package we bought and where most discovering on-line go. Only to discover that once the product has been bought UBI drop the customer like a hot brick. If properly supported then more may buy the software after hearing the rave reviews from the less persistent, after all it is only the real addicts that struggle through and get it working or discover HL.

As Tully put it, the community forums are sadly not associated with the lobby team.

Perhaps a more targeted approach may work, find a directors email and advise them of the poor support. But I doubt that would work either.....

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lil_labbit
09-20-2004, 06:06 PM
Maybe someone should punch em in the nose...

UBI - any of the zillion funny meanings I heard so far - http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif &lt;-- new logo ? (just a suggestion)

So... UBI is...
Could we get a breakdown of the company with email addy and function ?
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Willey
09-20-2004, 07:36 PM
Who flies there anyway? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Hawgdog
09-21-2004, 06:59 AM
Ooops, I didnt even think you were talking about..ah 'those' UBI servers. The home of noobs, greenhorns, kill stealers and whiners.
Most of us graduated to HP.
Why, oh why are you even trying to get that UBI server to work? Security is weaker, what does UBI offer that you CANT get at HP?
Just curious, not starting a flame, really.
You guys are beating a dead horse trying to get UBI server to work. Its a royal pain.

It would be nice if UBI games had the same thing that Call of Duty has, an ingame IP locator for hosting and finding games world wide. Cut the middle man out entirely.
c'ya

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Dacripler
09-21-2004, 07:30 AM
Honestly after buying the original game over 3 yrs ago and the fact I bought the Il2-FB AND the Expansion pack to play on a third-party server is zero online support.
Second, to find the proper way to patch your game to the required patches are out of date as well.
Third and lastly why do I need to go to file planet to download my patches?

C'mon UBI I paid for a game and the online service. You need to get your act together. My problem actually is YOUR problem.. FIX it...

BlackShrike
09-21-2004, 10:01 AM
what are the limitations of hyper lobby? if you have issues with hyper or needs just email jiri.

he will immediately add new gaming rooms for anyone that wants to host new tournaments or such.

there is a fightersweep room that he put up just for the community to fly tournaments. there are multiple lobby rooms available for everyones needs.

he has old fps games and old flight sims still with HL just so a couple pilots can still fly old games.

HOW is hl limited???????

ubi sucks donkey donuts. it always has and will Never change.

FIGHT THE POWER!!! fight big brother and uninstall ubi and install hyperlobby.

TheGozr
09-24-2004, 10:41 AM
Been a while since i open HL, Using ASE for some time now and love it.

HL still have the same problem Multiple servers...

VMF-214_Pappy
09-25-2004, 12:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hawgdog:
Ooops, I didnt even think you were talking about..ah 'those' UBI servers. The home of noobs, greenhorns, kill stealers and whiners.
Most of us graduated to HP.
Why, oh why are you even trying to get that UBI server to work? Security is weaker, what does UBI offer that you CANT get at HP?
Just curious, not starting a flame, really.
You guys are beating a dead horse trying to get UBI server to work. Its a royal pain.

It would be nice if UBI games had the same thing that Call of Duty has, an ingame IP locator for hosting and finding games world wide. Cut the middle man out entirely.
c'ya

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
What makes u think HL is so superior get off your high horse i play at both.