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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 09:42 PM
Just got the BOB dvd, its been about a decade since I've seen it and I forgot how INCREDIBLE it is. The first 30 seconds were ecstasy. It was the sound of those engines that really got the wood going, but I need a copy that has been digitally remastered, preferably in 5.1. So far I'm not finding a copy. Any one know of one. Come on you Sons of Britain help a cousin yank out. Well back to the movie.

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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 09:42 PM
Just got the BOB dvd, its been about a decade since I've seen it and I forgot how INCREDIBLE it is. The first 30 seconds were ecstasy. It was the sound of those engines that really got the wood going, but I need a copy that has been digitally remastered, preferably in 5.1. So far I'm not finding a copy. Any one know of one. Come on you Sons of Britain help a cousin yank out. Well back to the movie.

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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 09:57 PM
where did you get it at?

I've been looking for this.

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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 10:28 PM
More info please...I love that movie. But I have it on a dying VHS tape...the tracking is already starting to go.

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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 10:41 PM
They are selling them here in Toronto Canada by the bundles.

You can pick them up in the two for $25 CDN ($18 USD) rack along with the Longest Day!).

All the ones I have seen are in dolby digital only and not 5.1

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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 11:00 PM
Even by today's standards, incredible flight sequences. Agreed, the sound is exceptional. Wish FB sounds would emulate the popping exhaust sounds as the throttle is closed on final landing. That 5.1 feature may have been on the DVD version I saw at Barnes & Noble.....?

One other thing, does anybody know if the planes destroyed on the ground were real or mockups? At least one spit is trying to take off when he gets bombed by a vulching nazi.....looks real.



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XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 11:27 PM
Just checked my copy and do no believe the DVD comes in the Dolby 5.1

XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 11:29 PM
Got my copy at Best Buy for $9.99. You can get them here in America.

XyZspineZyX
09-01-2003, 11:45 PM
I want the DVD too, but can anyone advise if it's actually in proper widescreen format - the original film was in Panavision, I believe?
My bought video version isn't in genuine widescreen so bits each side are missing.

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 02:00 AM
I picked up mine at Circuit City in the $9 buy one get one free bin. Great film.

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 02:05 AM
Excellent! Going to grab that for sure.

Just got 2001: A Space Odessy. But I'm not watching it until I get the speakers and amp hooked up to the tv. Have an old Marantz amp and some good floor speakers. Hook it up to my medium-quality 27" tv, turn up the big sound, turn off the lights and instant home theater for us proletariat.





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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 05:03 AM
Unfortunatelly some of ths Spitfires exploding on the ground are real and were 'really' exploded for the making of the movie.

The location is Spain, I think (see the end credits), and some of the Spitfires that were destroyed were from Portugal, I think also, maybe it's on the credits also.

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 10:07 AM
Flipping typical !!!
Battle of Britain, and we can't get the freaking DVD in Britain.
My DVD's a zone 2 only, so it's no good getting it from our cousins across the pond.

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:08 AM
I feel your pain Blackadder, I can't BELIEVE it's out on R1 but not R2! What the hell's going on there! I've wanted that film on DVD for ages.....

Grr.

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:13 AM
Found this review by a punter

The Battle of Britain is one of my favorite films. Great cast, classic flying scenes and a fascinating perspective on historical events.
However, I was disappointed with the DVD version. The image quality is great, but the DVD differs from the VHS version in some important ways.

First, the DVD version has different subtitles. Some are modified and some are added. If you read all of the newly added (and mostly unnecessary) subtitles, you can't keep up with the video in some scenes. I don't speak German, so I can't say whether the modified subtitles are more accurate, but I feel that some of the translations lost their dramatic edge in this release. The DVD producers also chose to overlap subtitles with the picture, when, at 2.35:1, there's plenty of room below the video for the subtitles.

Secondly, on VHS, the movie's final scene is boosted by Ron Goodwin's beautiful soundtrack. The DVD version drops the Ron Goodwin track and replaces it with a lifeless piece that saps the life out of the final scene. This was a major disappointment.

Lastly, just before the end credits, Winston Churchill's famous quote is replaced with a less notable one.

Overall, it's still a great movie, but the VHS version was nearly perfect. After waiting years for the DVD version, I'm now left hoping there will be a Special Edition version with the VHS subtitles and soundtrack restored.



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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:45 AM
oh well,
just ordered the DVD from playusa.com. Only 9.99 delivered, so it's not going to break the bank. Just need to get my DVD chipped so I can play multi region !

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:51 AM
Blackadder,

Try searching for a multiregion code for your dvd player.

I have an old samsung dvd player and the remote control hack worked great on it!!

cheaper than chips!

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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:19 PM
Great film some of the best flight scenes in any movie. Goring was played by a German comic can't remember his name. Plyed the part so well that some or the real German pilots present thought they were seeing a ghost. Two things spoil the movie for me.1. That is too many girly bits and the girls have 70's hair styles. 2. That damned electic doorbell on the house of the permanantly angry squadron leader. If it is on DVD I will buy it. For those in the UK Currys have a multi region DVD for 42 including postage. It says in the instructions that an on screen warning apears when a region 1 disc is placed in the machine. When you see the warning you are to remove the disc and stop viewing it.Another case of the poor relations in the UK. I think you should start sending food parcels again.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 12:59 AM
This is what they had assembled for the 'Battle of Britain' film:

50 Heinkels
28 Messerschmitts
24 flyable/flying Spitfires
24 'runner' Spitfires (i.e. ground dummies and ground rollers)
4 Hurricanes (of which 3 could fly)


I have the great film 'Dark Blue World' on DVD.
Many (or all) of the clips of aerial combatin that film are originally from the 'Battle of Britain' film, but modernised and improved upon. For example, they have added some great tracer effects, and excellent damage/smoke/debris effects from a Heinkel bomber under attack. I recommend this film to anyone interested in World War Two air combat.

BobTuck.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 04:13 AM
Can anyone authenicate wither the cloth type oxygen mask's used in this film are a real period piece of equipment? everything i have seen to date were rubber mask's. for one thing the didn't seem to fit very well.same goes for the rubber mask's worn by the german pilots in this film.those seemed undersized....M2ctsW!

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 07:29 AM
Shrimp2 wrote:
- Unfortunatelly some of ths Spitfires exploding on
- the ground are real and were 'really' exploded for
- the making of the movie.


I was afraid of that. One of the burned up Hurricanes looks awfully real as well, with all the braces and stringers showing under the burned away cloth covering.


BobTuck wrote:

This is what they had assembled for the 'Battle of Britain' film:

50 Heinkels
28 Messerschmitts
24 flyable/flying Spitfires
24 'runner' Spitfires (i.e. ground dummies and ground rollers)
4 Hurricanes (of which 3 could fly)



Wow, 50 Heinkels. I see them on the screen but can't believe that many are assembled. Where are they now, eh?

About the BF109s, they sure don't look right. I swear the engine cowling looks like one right off a Spit. At first I was convinced they were Spits dolled up to look like Bfs.....but now I have no idea what they really are.




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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 08:02 AM
I have been bagering MGM ect for some time to release the dvd and I still cannot buy one here in Australia. it seems it will not be released. is there any one over in Canada or America that is willing to buy me a copy and then sendit by post I have tried in vein to buy online but do not get any were. If you can help I will sent W Union money order to include purchase and post if you can help please contact me with message

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 11:37 PM
Battle of Britain has been out on DVD a couple months now. You can probably find them on Ebay easily. I picked one up at Best Buy back in July for $9.99.

On another note......."The Final Countdown" has also just been released on DVD. Should be able to find it at Best Buy also. Most likey it's all over Ebay by now.


Regards

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 12:02 AM
One funny thing in the film is during the closing credits. They list all the pilots killed in the BOB and one is is listed as Israeli.

Guess that guy popped into a time machine and went back a few years.



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Message Edited on 09/03/0311:03PM by Beirut

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 12:25 AM
Darrayn
Are you sure the u.s copy will play in Aus.?If so send me a note at jlkemling@cox.net and we'll see about getting you a copy.

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 12:32 AM
What DVD BOB is in 5.1 I dont believe it..the version from Bestbuy in widescreen and redone and rereleased by MGM is in 2.0. mono----tell me WHO produces this 5.1 version so I can look it up myself--amazon.com has all technical info of only available dvd version--proof is in the pudding-------also check out BlueMax on DVD it is also awesome, those real WWI planes will put a tear in your eye



Message Edited on 09/03/0311:33PM by VonLuger

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 01:18 AM
The Hurris and Spits destroyed/burned/nosed over in BoB were all full sized models, convenient for falling down holes etc. without upsetting the insurers. As you will see with the hurris, they were well detailed, in fact several are in musuems...

The BF109 engine cowlings resemble that of a merlin engined aircraft because they are... They are Hispanos HA-1112s(?), essentially license built post war 109s for the Spanish air force (just as the "Heinkels" were), using more readily available Merlins... I believe most of the Heinkels were scrapped...

The really criminal film is 633 Squadron, which did taxi real Mosquitos and put the gear up whilst travelling along...

Charlie

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 01:19 AM
The 109s were post war Spanish variants made up to look like Emils if I recall.

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 01:40 PM
not seen either of these films but i am getting them as soon as i can now i love 109's and hurricanes i like the spit an i live in stoke so the home of the spitfire i will go the museum and get pics in a week or so

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 01:57 PM
Amazon.com do the reg1 version.Im lucky to have a multi region player - tht way io get cheap import discs as well.

I was a duxford the other day, whee they filmed BoB, they have a display about the filming. Anyway, they did destroy real planes, but these were stored, werent going to be restored and were just repaired so they looked complete from the outside.Inside they were damaged and rusting.
You know the scene on eagle day or adlertag, where biggin hill is bombed by he 111's and the hanger is destroyed? That was a real hanger, no models or anything.

They certainly didnt do things by halves

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 02:35 PM
I just purchased my dvd from barnes and nobles - looking forward to watching this on dvd http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 02:47 PM
Sound in this film is strickly mono. closed captioning absolutly sucks....and as for changing the statement by Winston at the end...what the hell were they thinking!!!
So with the exception of the wide screen format think i prefer the VHS version!!

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 03:17 PM
VonLuger wrote:
- What DVD BOB is in 5.1 I dont believe it..

You shouldn't. Anybody waiting for a 5.1 version of this film had better not hold their breath.

The film was made in 1969 I believe. The individual sound componants were probably long gone after they were mixed for the film (They didn't have the kind of multi-track media we have now. The big advance in pro-audio at the time was eight tracks on 1 inch tape, and I doubt they used that for the film even for the music.). And it's those elements that would be needed today to re-mix for surround. They probably had three basic componants: dialog, sound effects, music. If those were on hand, even with a mono music track you could put together a surround mix.

Even if they could be found (which I doubt) you'd be hard pressed to justify the expense. It's a big deal to us, but not enough of a big deal to enough people that they'd make their money back on it.

XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 04:02 PM
Lichtie !!
Thanks for you tip. I was going to pay 50 to get my DVD chipped for region 1, But the links below told me how to hack it for free !, now it's a multi-region DVD !



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09-04-2003, 04:16 PM
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XyZspineZyX
09-04-2003, 05:27 PM
I think you will find that the hanger which was destroyed was at Duxford. The floor of the hanger is now used as an apron for static aircraft. There was some controversy over whether the film crew had confirmed permission to blow the thing up but they went ahead and did it anyway!