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godsmack_darius
11-08-2012, 06:54 AM
So. Time to discuss what the hell happened!


What were the little conversations that Juno and Desmond about? What happened to the OWCB when they were trying to find a solution to the solar flare?

What happened to Jupiter, Minerva, and Juno? Were they locked away? If so, why?

Why does Juno want to take over the world?

WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THE ENDING WITH DESMOND?!?

And any other questions you can come up with!!

One Love!

KamisoriTenno
11-08-2012, 10:51 PM
well; I'm glad desmond (died?) in the end because he was getting uglier with each sequel. He was like a Pornstar of the VHS/DVD era who didn't survive the transition into HD.
Well, story wise I think Juno is sorta the templar style girl who wants world domination, while the others were sorta the assassin mentality types with a dose of genocidal flavour. I mean killing everyone to keep them from being controlled is kinda extreme.

I did love the twist at the beginning, when ya found out that you were actually playing a templar and not an assassin. that was something I didn't expect and like desmon I was like: Wait...WHAT?!? XD

Will_Lucky
11-09-2012, 02:05 AM
I did love the twist at the beginning, when ya found out that you were actually playing a templar and not an assassin. that was something I didn't expect and like desmon I was like: Wait...WHAT?!? XD

I knew it the moment he threatened the ship captain with death for not sailing into the Storm, I thought yeah...no chance that is an Assassin.

SergeantClassie
11-09-2012, 02:10 AM
the ending was like me3

pirate1802
11-09-2012, 03:51 AM
the ending was like me3

Lol.

godsmack_darius
11-09-2012, 08:47 PM
What do you guys think will happen to the rest of the Assassins?

And during the revolution...WHERE ARE ALL THE ASSASSINS? I am assuming they have been riven close to extinction...

twenty_glyphs
11-10-2012, 05:38 AM
What do you guys think will happen to the rest of the Assassins?

And during the revolution...WHERE ARE ALL THE ASSASSINS? I am assuming they have been riven close to extinction...

Several database entries mention the Assassins almost being wiped out by the Templars in 1763, but specifically say Shaun can't find any actual info on what happened. Of course, that point is never even raised in the proper game so you'd only know that if you happened to read a few select database entries. It was disappointing that both the Assassins and Templars seemed to be so small and inconsequential after the way they existed in Alta´r and Ezio's time.

As for what really happened with Minerva, Juno and Tinia, the strategy guide is actually a really good source of speculation. They reiterate the six methods of salvation that Juno told Desmond about -- building towers to transfer the solar flare's energy into the Grand Temple, building a shield around the planet, indoctrinating the planet to actually cause the power of their thoughts to will away the disaster, divination -- looking into the future to see if the disaster was averted and to find a solution somewhere in the future (this was Minerva's project), bio-engineering their bodies to resist the effects of the disaster (this is what caused Juno's husband to die), and transcendence, or transferring their minds into another vessel.

It seems that Minerva looked into the future and saw that no matter what, their civilization would be destroyed, but she kept pushing forward in time and eventually made contact with Ezio. The guide says this device was in the Grand Temple, though that's not said in the game. At some point after that, Juno used the same device (Minerva called it the Eye in the ending argument) to contact Desmond at the end of Brotherhood. At some point, Minerva and Tinia (and likely others) discovered that Juno and others were really working to take control of the planet instead of save it, so they killed them and trapped them in the Grand Temple. Apparently they thought they were dead, and that something about the Grand Temple would still help Desmond in his time, so that's why Tinia directed him there. Tinia likely used the divination device to contact Desmond as well in Revelations after discovering Juno's betrayal, and then they destroyed the divination device in the Grand Temple.

The strategy guide speculates that Juno didn't die, but she was trapped in the Grand Temple and so used the sixth method of salvation, Transcendence, to transfer her mind into the computers of the Grand Temple and survive for thousands of years. This sounds just like what Subject 16 did. Juno told Desmond that the tower method, the first method of salvation, was abandoned because they would take more than 1000 years to construct. But she also said that some returned to work on them, and that they had machines automatically build the towers. The guide speculates that the towers were completed this way in the thousands of years since the last solar catastrophe, and that this is the method that the Grand Temple used to stop the solar disaster. The towers didn't go up but down, as seen by the deep chasms around the Grand Temple. The guide also speculates that Juno might have been able to reach out to Pieces of Eden from the Grand Temple and guide humans along the path she wanted, getting Connor's tribe to protect the Temple and keep people out before the solar flare loomed, and guiding Connor and Desmond to the key.

Juno likely exists as an AI like Subject 16 was in Brotherhood and Revelations, but whatever Desmond did freed her from the constraints of the Grand Temple somehow. Apparently Minerva was able to show up at the end of AC3 because she used another divination device to project herself to that moment in time. That's why Juno was surprised, since apparently Minerva had destroyed the device she used to make contact with Ezio, but had another one. This may also explain "awakening the Sixth," since Transcendence was the sixth method of salvation that Juno told Desmond about. Juno also told Desmond that the sixth method of salvation was easy enough to transfer one's mind into another vessel, but to leave required something "wrong". It's possible that Desmond's mind was transferred into the Grand Temple and that he might stick around that way like Subject 16 did. This might also be related to Consus from Project Legacy, since he seemed to be some AI construct capable of living in people's minds or something weird like that.

Iamsosobad
11-10-2012, 09:30 AM
Ugh I'm so disappointed in this game, not only in Desmond's part, but Connor's story was underdeveloped and underwhelming to me.

I was just starting to really like Desmond in this game, I knew it was the end of his trilogy as main character, but I thought he'd successfully save the world and then become a supporting character in the next games. I was hoping he'd beome Grand Master Assassin, while a new character enters the animus to aid in the never-ending war against the Templars, and the series would continue on from there.

But no, it couldn't be that simple, could it? Instead Desmond (seemingly) dies, and the games have suddenly sidetracked into a completely bizzarre and different direction...why did Ubisoft have to do this?! I don't know how they're gonna possibly follow up on this game, how would it make any sense to put someone in an animus while some crazy lady is controlling the world? Is Juno just gonna become the main villain of the series now? This isn't what I wanted from Assassin's Creed...

pirate1802
11-10-2012, 10:55 AM
Ugh I'm so disappointed in this game, not only in Desmond's part, but Connor's story was underdeveloped and underwhelming to me.

I was just starting to really like Desmond in this game, I knew it was the end of his trilogy as main character, but I thought he'd successfully save the world and then become a supporting character in the next games. I was hoping he'd beome Grand Master Assassin, while a new character enters the animus to aid in the never-ending war against the Templars, and the series would continue on from there.

But no, it couldn't be that simple, could it? Instead Desmond (seemingly) dies, and the games have suddenly sidetracked into a completely bizzarre and different direction...why did Ubisoft have to do this?! I don't know how they're gonna possibly follow up on this game, how would it make any sense to put someone in an animus while some crazy lady is controlling the world? Is Juno just gonna become the main villain of the series now? This isn't what I wanted from Assassin's Creed...

It was a brilliant twist imo. Always wanted to have more TWCB involvement.

Blind2Society
11-10-2012, 11:13 AM
the ending was like me3

The exact opposite actually. ME3 was a jumbled mess of nonsense that clearly ended Shepard's arc but didn't really leave the series open and left you with nothing but a whole lot of WTF!?. AC3 clearly ended the Desmond/end-of-the-world arc while leaving the series open with Juno as the Templar overlord and the Assassin-Templar war raging on.

That said, the ending was still presented very poorly (not epic at all, way too short, the options/consequences weren't presented clearly, how/why Desmond made up his mind wasn't presented at all, and it wasn't shown how Juno stopped the end of the world).

Razrback16
11-10-2012, 03:13 PM
Ugh I'm so disappointed in this game, not only in Desmond's part, but Connor's story was underdeveloped and underwhelming to me.

I was just starting to really like Desmond in this game, I knew it was the end of his trilogy as main character, but I thought he'd successfully save the world and then become a supporting character in the next games. I was hoping he'd beome Grand Master Assassin, while a new character enters the animus to aid in the never-ending war against the Templars, and the series would continue on from there.

But no, it couldn't be that simple, could it? Instead Desmond (seemingly) dies, and the games have suddenly sidetracked into a completely bizzarre and different direction...why did Ubisoft have to do this?! I don't know how they're gonna possibly follow up on this game, how would it make any sense to put someone in an animus while some crazy lady is controlling the world? Is Juno just gonna become the main villain of the series now? This isn't what I wanted from Assassin's Creed...

Agree. This is definitely what I didn't want from the AC storyline. So many better paths. Complete and utter disappointment.

godsmack_darius
11-10-2012, 06:10 PM
So Ezio, Altair, Connor, AND Desmond have been controlled by Juno the entire time? How? Misleading them or using the piece of eden?