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Oleg_Maddox
03-05-2004, 12:52 PM
Need precise trial speed curves, climb curves, engines info, etc for

Spitfire H.P.Mk.IXE
Spitfire LF.Mk.IXC
Spitfire LF.Mk.IXE

currently I have some contraditions from a different sources data.
Need most precise. Asap.
Don't need blueprints http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Jusr official report datas.

Please post here or send me to il2beta@1c.ru with subject Spit9

Oleg_Maddox
03-05-2004, 12:52 PM
Need precise trial speed curves, climb curves, engines info, etc for

Spitfire H.P.Mk.IXE
Spitfire LF.Mk.IXC
Spitfire LF.Mk.IXE

currently I have some contraditions from a different sources data.
Need most precise. Asap.
Don't need blueprints http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Jusr official report datas.

Please post here or send me to il2beta@1c.ru with subject Spit9

Aces_High_2
03-05-2004, 01:05 PM
Hi Oleg,

not sure if this will help:

Climb chart (http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/jl165climb.gif)

speed chart (http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/jl165speed.gif)

Hope this is of interest.

Best Regards

Aces

other information (http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/jl165.html)

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Oleg_Maddox
03-05-2004, 01:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aces_High_2:
Hi Oleg,

not sure if this will help:

http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/jl165climb.gif

http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/jl165speed.gif

Hope this is of interest.

Best Regards

Aces

http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/jl165.html

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This I have. Thank you. Not enough for precise.

JG26Red
03-05-2004, 01:26 PM
http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/spit9.html

this useful?

seems to been the same as above... my bad, but has alot more than just charts.. srry... disregard if useless..

Hartmann.
03-05-2004, 01:28 PM
Oleg,
dont u need for the Ta 152 H? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Oleg_Maddox
03-05-2004, 01:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hartmann.:
Oleg,
dont u need for the Ta 152 H? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have it.
If you try the joke with me: Then don't forget that we model the enviroument physics only up to 10,000 meters. So performace of the plane should be tested only at 10,000 and bellow.
Above 10,000 physical conditions are the same alwasy as on 10,000. So you can't achive the maximal perfomance on the altitudes above 10,000.

Hartmann.
03-05-2004, 01:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hartmann.:
Oleg,
dont u need for the Ta 152 H? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have it.
If you try the joke with me: Then don't forget that we model the enviroument physics only up to 10,000 meters. So performace of the plane should be tested only at 10,000 and bellow.
Above 10,000 physical conditions are the same alwasy as on 10,000. So you can't achive the maximal perfomance on the altitudes above 10,000.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ok i know http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif u told me it hehe

the GM1 and MW 50 are very well modelled http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, im checking my historical resources and post here l8r http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hunger
03-06-2004, 05:49 AM
This is "BUMPWORTHY"
"bump"

Extreme_One
03-06-2004, 07:21 AM
BUMP!

I hope the MkIX is spot on when I get to fly it!

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03-06-2004, 09:29 AM
Oleg, if you check your mails, on 14th December 2003 I have sent you information regarding Spitfires. Mailerdaemon confirmed arrival.

All data is uploaded to FTP. Login information is in Email. If needed, I can resend.

Bearcat99
03-06-2004, 05:50 PM
I dont have any info...but im bumping this thread..

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Gunner_361st
03-06-2004, 05:55 PM
No information on that here either. Up until a few days ago, I thought the Spitfire was made of wood, thanks to a close family member who I thought knew what he was talking about. ;-)

So my point is... Bump, Be sure. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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BerkshireHunt
03-06-2004, 06:14 PM
Oleg,
Please be advised that information on the Spitfire IX sent to you by VO101 Kurfurst is unlikely to be complete and unbiased. He previously posted under the name 'Isegrim' and is well known on the board as somebody who dislikes the Spitfire intensely.
I believe he is playing games with you and any information he sends will be very selective and designed to make you model it with a lower performance than it had in reality.
I would like to be wrong on this- and if you believe what he has supplied is complete and unbiased then that's good enough for me. But please bear these comments in mind.
Thank you.

brasil66
03-06-2004, 07:44 PM
Are you serious that someone can be driven to submit false information because they dont like an airplane in a VIDEO GAME?! If so...that person must have a classifiable mental disorder. Its bizarre to me.

biggs222
03-06-2004, 08:46 PM
oleg will u be modeling the Merlin 66 with 18 lb sq/in boost or 25 lb sq/in boost?

I have offical data from the Boscombe Down trials of the Merlin 66 engine.

its in a book so i will have to scan the info and email it to you

biggs222
03-06-2004, 11:53 PM
here is a Boscombe Down test in November 1942 of the merlin66, serial#BS543

Rate of climb@Sea Level ft/min-----4620
Rate of climb Full throttle-----4700
hight MS gear
FS gear-----3700@18200ft
Rate of climb@30,000ft ft/min-----2125
Time to 10,000ft (min)-----2.15
Time to 30,000ft (min)-----8.4
Serice ceiling (100ft/min)-----40,900
Max speed@ sea level (mph)-----336
Full throttle hieght-----385
MS gear
FS gear-----407 @ 22,000
Level speed @ 30,000ft (mph)-----395


hope this helps, oleg

BTW oleg i hope u know that the LFmkIXc and LfmkIXe will have the same performance, the only difference was the armament.

Cragger
03-07-2004, 12:13 AM
biggs he needs documented tests. Unfortunately something typed second hand isn't really worth a second glance. If however you can provide links to .pdfs of the actual 1942 files I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

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biggs222
03-07-2004, 01:02 AM
this was from an offical record from Boscombe Down, (where all that info at fourthfighergroup.com was got). these are records from a highly regarded book, its nicknamed the "spitfire bible".
the book is titled, "Sptifre The History". about 650 pages covering every singe mark, modifcation and test done to the spitfire. all of teh performance tests are offical nothign is second hand info. its about eh most borign book ull ever read unless u love sptifires. i obviously dohttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

im only giving oleg what i think is the most offical stats.

Cragger
03-07-2004, 01:20 AM
You still don't see my point. Posting the data from a reference is near pointless without either the link to the document to back it up (not a webpage referencing the book). Pointing out a book and page number is helpful. Oleg then can go about aquiring said book and then reference the credibility from there.

I know you mean well and I don't doubt that what your posting is what is in the book. But ever since the dawn of the information age and the internet information itself must be sifted thru with a fine tooth comb. Even back in 1940s there where lots of conflicting 'factual' reports on the performance of this or that. Some for propaganda reasons and others for improper test results.

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RAF74_Buzzsaw
03-07-2004, 02:13 PM
Hello Oleg

Here is a power curve for the Merlin 66:

http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/merlin66hpchart.jpg

This shows performance at both +18 and +25 boost, in both 'M' and 'S' supercharger gears.