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Radman500
11-03-2012, 12:45 AM
im probably in the minority, am i the only one that liked Haytham more then Connor

DinoSteve1
11-03-2012, 12:47 AM
No

Radman500
11-03-2012, 12:48 AM
No

so you liked Haytham more then Connor

CalgaryJay
11-03-2012, 12:51 AM
I'm actually not surprised to hear that, Haytham reminded me of Ezio a bit. Upper class, suave, he had charisma.

I prefer Connor because in my mind I just picture an assassin as alone & stoic, but for those who loved Ezio I bet quite a few preferred Haytham (I liked him too, just not as much as Connor)

DinoSteve1
11-03-2012, 12:53 AM
so you liked Haytham more then Connor
yes, I stll think he was a *******, just a very charming and polite one.

FrankieSatt
11-03-2012, 12:56 AM
I have yet to play much of Conner so I can't say. I do have to say thought that Haytham wasn't a bad character to play as. I think it's interesting they used 2 ancestors in this game instead of just one.

Assassin_M
11-03-2012, 01:08 AM
Do you make a thread every time you`re bored ? Are you really that much of a no life ??

Mr_Shade
11-03-2012, 01:10 AM
Story spoilers guys..
Hint and tips forum only!!

CalgaryJay
11-03-2012, 01:10 AM
Methinks you got a bit of a thing for Ezio...maybe you should ask him out to the Snowflake Ball.

MRNMRSPACER
11-03-2012, 01:17 AM
haha i very much preferred haytham...i would love a whole game as him!!

Sharkey1337
11-03-2012, 01:23 AM
I really enjoyed Haytham, but I rushed through his sections to get to Connor as that's who I was wanting to play the most. Sadly, I just don't find Connor anywhere near as interesting as Haytham character wise, so I'll definitely be revisiting Haytham's sections.

Layytez
11-03-2012, 01:35 AM
I found Haytham and Connor's relationship interesting after Haytham asked about his mother.

TrueAssassin77
11-03-2012, 01:39 AM
i hate haytham because his part of the story is to long.

conner= haythem are equal in terms of character imo

why does it seem everyone likes the slighlty sterotypical or cliche heros more than the real ones???

Sharkey1337
11-03-2012, 01:44 AM
i hate haytham because his part of the story is to long.

conner= haythem are equal in terms of character imo

why does it seem everyone likes the slighlty sterotypical or cliche heros more than the real ones???

And how is Connor not stereotypical? He's pretty much your cliche vengeful character with a single purpose: protecting and avenging his tribe.

BlackRose1809
11-03-2012, 02:46 AM
I like Haytam, but then when I found out he was templar... I felt sad, and confused. I guess this game has a lot of black and white and gray. Good twist thought....

thejoshknight
11-03-2012, 03:49 AM
I don't really care for the Assassins or the Templars to be honest, as they both seem to be slightly evil to me.

So, I'm going with Haytham just because of the personality. I would love to play as him in a full game.

lightlamp
11-03-2012, 03:54 AM
I enjoyed Haytham way more than Connor because he actually had a personality

NinjaOnFire
11-03-2012, 04:43 AM
How did Hatham not pick up that Lee was a psycho? I prefer Hatham, dat pimp got some mad style.

Aries_Dragon
11-16-2012, 03:26 AM
Haytham and Connor are both the integral parts of each other. Even though their relationship never went to loving each other as father and son, they treated one another with deep respect and equality. This shows up pretty well when their mutual story comes to the final battle where there is no "join" option, it is only kill or be killed. Haytham's last words even made me shed a few tears, 'cause this was the crucial moment for him to express what he truly felt for Connor, and so he did in a manner of speaking. Instead of making his assassin offspring think that he did a terrible thing killing his own father, Kenway encoraged Ratohnhaketon to fight on never losing his grip weeping for the wrong he's done. Just because this time Connor was stronger, Kenway respected his reason despite the fact that they were ideological enemies. Perhaps Haythem wanted it to be otherwise for him and Connor, but he would never speak of it candidly. Not unless it all came to fighting each other to the death. His words of pride were much more valuable than those of sorrow. I hope Connor will one day understand and appreciate his dying father's words. Now, he's too young I guess. But I don't expect Ratohnhaketon to torment himself about this realization, forgiveness should be enough.
Without involving this kind of relationship we would probably never get the chance enough to see more deeply into these two stunning characters. That's what I think. Both father and son are equal, same. The only difference between them is ideology.
PS: sorry if my language goes bad sometimes, I'm not native speaker =) And yes, I loved Kenway *_*

A-p-o-l-l-y-o-n
11-16-2012, 06:00 AM
Haytham. He's just cooler IMO, and it's not because of the suave attitude. I like the way he carried himself, especially his confidence and how he stays composed in the face of a setback, at least when you play as him. He loses his cool when you're playing as Connor, but he's not generally an angry, moody person the whole time like Connor is.

And I'm sure RatonhnhakeFan will arrive here soon to express his undying love for Connor....

BoogieChick
11-17-2012, 03:29 PM
I preferred Haytham, Connor is just too stoic and angry at everyone.

TrueAssassin77
11-17-2012, 04:41 PM
Haytham= Evil james bond.

that is who the devolpers modeled him after.

this is a fact. and there is proof

Kaschra
11-17-2012, 05:15 PM
Nope, I prefer him over Connor, too! :)




Haytham= Evil james bond.

that is who the devolpers modeled him after.

this is a fact. and there is proof

What is your problem? -__-

Apirka
11-17-2012, 05:26 PM
Nope, I prefer him over Connor, too! :)





What is your problem? -__-

I'm under the impression that he doesn't like the bond archetype very much. I've also been feeling the urge to rewatch Licence to Kill. I wonder if that and discussing Haytham with him are related...


And Op, I like Haytham better, too. In fact, I'm amazed I haven't posted here yet to say that...

TrueAssassin77
11-17-2012, 05:29 PM
if ezio is james bond....

and haytham is evil james bond...

it kinda hints that you haven't got over ezio.
just my opinion, but i will cntinue to try to bring you guys into the light!

at least i wont insult you for your opinion, just continuely show you the error of your ways!

TrueAssassin77
11-17-2012, 05:31 PM
I'm under the impression that he doesn't like the bond archetype very much. I've also been feeling the urge to rewatch Licence to Kill. I wonder if that and discussing Haytham with him are related...


And Op, I like Haytham better, too. In fact, I'm amazed I haven't posted here yet to say that...


actually i love james bond, and i love ezio and haytham. but i also understand that they are indeed cliche heros.

haytham and ezio are more entertaining. but connor is the better character. just my opinion.

Ezio of ACR > Connor

Kaschra
11-17-2012, 05:38 PM
if ezio is james bond....

and haytham is evil james bond...

it kinda hints that you haven't got over ezio.
just my opinion, but i will cntinue to try to bring you guys into the light!

at least i wont insult you for your opinion, just continuely show you the error of your ways!

http://images.wikia.com/hackslashmine/images/f/f4/Picard-facepalm.jpg

Seriously, dude? Grow up. Don't force your opinion on other people and state them as facts.
"Error of your ways" "Bring you guys into the light".
WTF is wrong with you :/

TrueAssassin77
11-17-2012, 05:41 PM
bro! it is obvious i was joking. i even put exclamation points on the post.

memes are against forum guideline

WiriestScroll3
11-17-2012, 05:42 PM
I liked Haytham he would be assassin in ACIII :)

Kaschra
11-17-2012, 05:45 PM
Since you like to complain about Haytham in almost every post, I don't think it's obvious.

And why are memes against the forum rules? :confused:

Apirka
11-17-2012, 05:45 PM
actually i love james bond, and i love ezio and haytham. but i also understand that they are indeed cliche heros.

haytham and ezio are more entertaining. but connor is the better character. just my opinion.

Ezio of ACR > Connor

I'm... not gonna say anything about that bring you into the light stuff... But, does it really matter if Connor is a better character -- if he even is that? In the end, I play the game to be entertained. Connor isn't entertaining. He's boring. In fact, he's starting to irritate me... And here I started that second playthrough to like him better. **** it.

So aren't Ezio and Haytham, cliché or not, the "better" characters in that way? Besides, as I said elsewhere. Everything can be broken down into tropes and archetypes. Using the James Bond one doesn't stop a writer from doing something interesting with it.

TrueAssassin77
11-17-2012, 05:51 PM
Since you like to complain about Haytham in almost every post, I don't think it's obvious.

And why are memes against the forum rules? :confused:
no i complain that haythams part took to much time from the main game. never have i said i hated haytham, and ezio of ACR is a beast. the devs said the story will take 20+ hours to complete. i didn't know haythams prlouge would take 5 hours of that. i literally hesitate to start a new game slot because id know i'd have to grind through it everytime.

i don;t know, but when i got in trouble for it, i oersonally thought it was a stupid reason. apparently its considered trolling or something. i don't know, and i was sadden that i wont be able to use my favorite memes on this forum

TrueAssassin77
11-17-2012, 05:56 PM
I'm... not gonna say anything about that bring you into the light stuff... But, does it really matter if Connor is a better character -- if he even is that? In the end, I play the game to be entertained. Connor isn't entertaining. He's boring. In fact, he's starting to irritate me... And here I started that second playthrough to like him better. **** it.

So aren't Ezio and Haytham, cliché or not, the "better" characters in that way? Besides, as I said elsewhere. Everything can be broken down into tropes and archetypes. Using the James Bond one doesn't stop a writer from doing something interesting with it.

better is an opinion. thats why i said "in my opinion". but more realistic is fact. connor is more realistic than both ezio and ezio jr.

Apirka
11-17-2012, 06:11 PM
better is an opinion. thats why i said "in my opinion". but more realistic is fact. connor is more realistic than both ezio and ezio jr.

I know you said that, I was just presenting an alternate view point -- that more entertaining could also be a(n important) criteria for saying that a character is better.

And I don't know if he's more realistic. Being charming and a skirt chaser doesn't really make you unrealistic. It always depends on the writing -- you can have a well written, realistic character that fits into the Bond archetype. I found Ezio to be plenty realistic, even in AC2 and ACB, I found Haytham to be realistic and intriguing (still haven't gotten around to reading Forsaken yet, though...). From what I remember of Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, Craig's Bond seemed realistic enough from an emotional stand point (also haven't watched Skyfall yet, so I can't say how he was there). Dalton's I always found quite realistic as well -- one of the reason why I like him best. (And, well, Timothy Dalton. The man is just an awesome actor, seriously.) Connery's or Moore's on the other hand? I didn't really find realistic.

I don't mean to say Connor is unrealistic, of course, because he isn't, certainly not. I'm just not sure I would see him as more realistic.

TrueAssassin77
11-17-2012, 06:22 PM
so you have met people who act like ezio? haytham is more realistic than ezio in alot of ways. but have you met real people like those 2?

Apirka
11-17-2012, 06:37 PM
I've met womanizers, sure. Even charming ones. But considering that I haven't met anyone with Ezio's experiences... But I'm just as unlikely to run into someone with Connor's experiences. (Also, am I the only one who think that ezio and Haytham aren't really all that similar, Bond archetype or not?)

Aside from that, I'm probably not the best person to ask. Being shy and introverted and disliking crowds (a lot), doesn't lent itself to meeting people.

A-p-o-l-l-y-o-n
11-17-2012, 11:12 PM
so you have met people who act like ezio? haytham is more realistic than ezio in alot of ways. but have you met real people like those 2?

I've met people who act kinda like Haytham. Haven't met any adults who act like Connor though. I've met people who have lost loved ones as a child, and none of them act angry and moody all the time. Most of them fake a smile even though they are hurt somewhere deep down inside. Haven't met anyone who wears that hurt on their shoulder.

FrankieSatt
11-18-2012, 01:17 AM
After playing the whole game I can say for certain that anyone, including Haythem, would be better than Connor. Connor was most definitly the WORST ancestor of all them, Haytham included.

bruise2010
11-18-2012, 02:22 AM
I love Haytham, my favorite character in the game.

BoogieChick
11-18-2012, 03:13 PM
It's just a game, no need to overanalyze it. protagonist vs antagonist. I did not mind ezio or altair, i don't hate Connor, Haytham just left a bigger mark than him to me. But perhaps it's because of Forsaken. When you read the book, which is mostly about Haytham, you see the game a different way after.

Gil_217
11-18-2012, 04:03 PM
I absolutely loved Haytham, easily the best character in the game. I loved every second playing as him and I wouldn't be bothered if he was the main character for the rest of the game, and I'm not taking a shot at Connor because I liked him too, but Haytham is just...better! It was really one of the best things about this game.

Also, this just made me realize that I NEED to play an entire game with a Templar as the protagonist, it would be fantastic, the possibilities are endless, it would be a very good change of pace and I actually bet it will be much appreciated by the fans.