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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 09:36 AM
Hi.
When things have been finished for FB how about another free add-on for the original IL2 with a few more planes to fly with cockpits, especially the larger twin or more engine bombers with gunners etc.
Thanks

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 09:36 AM
Hi.
When things have been finished for FB how about another free add-on for the original IL2 with a few more planes to fly with cockpits, especially the larger twin or more engine bombers with gunners etc.
Thanks

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 09:37 AM
No more new planes or patches will be released for the original IL2.

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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 01:30 PM
IL2 cant handle more than one engine...



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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 01:44 PM
Why it has the controls to switch engines!

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 01:51 PM
Look,IL2 is DEAD.Finito.

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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 02:12 PM
Companies rarely support the original product by adding new content when its a much better business model to support the sequel product.

IL-2 had very good support...a number of patches, addons, and whatnot...its successor is here and thats where everyone should be moving to.

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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 02:38 PM
What about those new players only now finding IL2 not being able to afford Fb and would just like to fly one bomber or something that is a bit different to all the fighters in the game. And there are some old players who still like to go back to the game after a little while.

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 03:06 PM
Not able to afford FB?


FB works just as fine on same PC as IL2.You only need to cough up 40 bucks(often cheaper).

FB is the best offer in exchange for fun I`ve seen in years.


Sadly if you can`t afford it,resing from vid games as a whole.

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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 03:29 PM
Sorry Vierbein but it is not working the same on the same PC, maybe if someone have PIV3.0 Ghz.. It's very pity that il2 dying, imo it has much better playability online then FB. Not only by graphic or net fluence, but in a matter of tactic fighting. I doubt that FB will achieve someday those playability.
p.s. i hope i didnt do much errors :P.

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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 03:40 PM
Sure,I spent 200$(kupa kasy - nie pracujª,tylko dostajª od starszestwa/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif ) to enjoy this game online(15% FPS drop).
IL2 is more playable,but IMO only because it has better netcode and FM.

What I do mean is that IL2 as an online game is dead.The vast majority switched to FB,just like that,cuz they didn`t experience almost any performance drop compared to IL2.

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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 03:53 PM
with patch coming, i should hold off saying this, but:

il2 plays much better than FB - both offline and online.

However, I would get FB after the patch, both these will be better.



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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 04:29 PM
But why not just put one bomber in IL2 for all those who still play it and have not yet moved on to FB?

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 04:37 PM
carguy_ wrote:
- Not able to afford FB?
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-
- FB works just as fine on same PC as IL2.You only
- need to cough up 40 bucks(often cheaper).
-
No way Carguy. I got a p4 1.7gHz cpu 32m nvida tnt2 vid card and 256 RAM. I can run IL2 fine. Little studder with more than 10planes and at low alt.

FB barely runs at all. I got to double RAM and get a new vid card. Cost about 170 US.Not including the cost of FB

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XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 05:32 PM
That means that there are still people who play IL2 and as I have a lower spec PC I might not be able to and for one I would like to at least fly one bomber.

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 06:14 PM
If your comp can run IL-2, it can run IL-2 FB. Same engine, just turn down the FB graphics settings to the original IL-2 levels.

Eat rice and beans and don't spend money on beer for a week and you should be able to afford Forgotten Battles. You can get it from amazon for $30 with free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007LVBI/ref=pd_sim_vg_1/102-3828620-0680169?v=glance&s=videogames&n=229596

Now if you are a kid on a quarter a week allowance, please understand that if businesses catered to this level of income the economy would come to a halt. There is no sound business sense in the developers continuing to support the original IL-2. It would simply be charity.

If you can't manage your money so as to afford a $30 purchase that on terms of money spent versus hours of entertainment gained is probably one of the best deals in the world (think how much movies, sports, going out for drinks, even cable costs), then you are either a.) going to have problems in life or b.) should probably just go ahead and sell your computer, cause you are going to need that money for food.

This isn't some console game where you spend $50, beat the game in a week and never play it again. In fact, there are only three things in the world I consider great deals as far as entertainment is concerned:

1. The outdoors. It's generally free, or at least cheap.

2. Soft-cover books.

3. Open-ended video games.



Message Edited on 08/09/0305:15PM by A.K.Davis

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 07:01 PM
I actually get 10 a week and save it in my bank account. I am 15 and am saving as to help pay for flying lessons as I am soon going to train to be a private pilot. I can afford FB I said what about others who may not but may still be able to give Ubi Soft some money! I have spoken to many people even to those who have roughly the same spec as mine who have FB and they say it dosen't work that well. All I am asking is one bomber for IL2 for those for what ever reason cannot play/get FB or of yet still play it now and then. Some people in this world cannot sit around a computer all day or have a job good enough for them to buy the best equipment out there and so their may be a majority of players who still use IL2 and beings IL2 has the control for a twin or higher engine plane why is there not one? That is all I ask one bomber for those still playing IL2.

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 07:56 PM
If you can afford FB, why are you complaining?

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 08:53 PM
I'm not complaining. All I want is one twin or higher engine plane that can be flown with cockpit in the original IL2 as I cannot get FB yet!

XyZspineZyX
08-09-2003, 09:43 PM
Well it's not going to happen.

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XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 12:01 AM
It is understandable what u are saying but as everyone else has said it aint gonna happen, why would they waist valuable time and effort to put extra planes into il2 when they are available in FB. Just buy FB and then you can benefit from all the planes and other new stuff including the upcoming addons.....

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 02:21 AM
i could hardly run FB on my athlon xp2100+ 512ram, radeon 8500 128mb vid card

but then i was told about this .dll, and i downloaded it and it fixed all the stutter, now i can run it at nearly full graphics settings

it fixed some kind of memory management or something, and it went into the FB folder

and im on a really bad dial up connection, 21.6k, yes, its horrible and i can fly online most of the time just fine
as long as the host has a decent setup i can flyonline perfectly fine with a ping of about 300 - 350

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people need to lighten up, dont take stuff so serious, you dont want to give your self a heart attack do you?

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 09:21 AM
I just recently switched back to the original IL2 and I like the engine sounds better than FB. BTW which game's engine sounds are more closer to their original counterparts?

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 11:53 AM
You need to adjust your soundcard settings. I thought the engines sounded terrible in FB until I fiddled with mine some.

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 12:06 PM
It's perfectly understandable that you would want a bomber or two for Il-2, but it just isn't going to happen. The 1C team has moved on.

Don't worry. In a few years (or less) the price of FB will come down and you can pick up a copy, bombers and all. Meanwhile, enjoy the original--it's a great game in itself.

Good luck with the flying lessons, too! Stick to it!
Manreaper wrote:
- I actually get 10 a week and save it in my bank
- account. I am 15 and am saving as to help pay for
- flying lessons as I am soon going to train to be a
- private pilot. I can afford FB I said what about
- others who may not but may still be able to give Ubi
- Soft some money! I have spoken to many people even
- to those who have roughly the same spec as mine who
- have FB and they say it dosen't work that well. All
- I am asking is one bomber for IL2 for those for what
- ever reason cannot play/get FB or of yet still play
- it now and then. Some people in this world cannot
- sit around a computer all day or have a job good
- enough for them to buy the best equipment out there
- and so their may be a majority of players who still
- use IL2 and beings IL2 has the control for a twin or
- higher engine plane why is there not one? That is
- all I ask one bomber for those still playing IL2.
-
-

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 03:46 PM
Thanks you Quax46 for understanding and not having ago all I wanted to try and see if anyone would entertain the idea.

As for flying lessons still saving.

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 06:17 PM
I barely can run il-2 original with minimal settings, I play offline only. And I am pretty sure that there are lots of guys like me with low end computers who play single player il-2 sturmovik.

In addtion, there are no much difference between il-2s and fb planes, and I don't think there will be much work to transfer those planes from one game to another, since all the graphic and behaviour attributes are the same.

And at last, it was pretty much rude to say that we have to sell our computer and buy food, whoever said it, you dont have any understanding on how much computers and computer parts cost in other countries. Just to give you example, out of my ,lets say 20-30, friends only I am lucky enought to have computer.



Message Edited on 08/10/0305:20PM by yay1

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 09:13 PM
yay1 wrote:
- I barely can run il-2 original with minimal
- settings, I play offline only. And I am pretty sure
- that there are lots of guys like me with low end
- computers who play single player il-2 sturmovik.
-
- In addtion, there are no much difference between
- il-2s and fb planes, and I don't think there will be
- much work to transfer those planes from one game to
- another, since all the graphic and behaviour
- attributes are the same.
-
- And at last, it was pretty much rude to say that we
- have to sell our computer and buy food, whoever said
- it, you dont have any understanding on how much
- computers and computer parts cost in other
- countries. Just to give you example, out of my ,lets
- say 20-30, friends only I am lucky enought to have
- computer.
-
-
-
-

I agree it surely cannot be hard to move a few more planes in for IL2. And for those who tthought I was talking a load of rubbish and that no-one plays IL2 anymore yay1 has given you proof that there are others and others who cannot afford this expensive things sd dome can not afford it.

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 10:24 PM
To both above, once again, it is entirely possible for the developers to put more planes into IL-2. This would require some time and effort. With Forgotten Battles now on the market and containing all the material from IL-2, what possible reason in the world would the devs have to continue to develope IL-2? Do you not see that it would simply be an act of charity? If Oleg wants to devote time and money to charity work, he should invest it towards people who have actual needs like food and clothing. Otherwise, he should devote his time and effort to developing his current product line to it's maximum potential, thus satisfying the MAJORITY of his customers and making money to develope future products.

Would you walk into a car dealership and ask the salesman to pretty please give you some free new wheels, since you have an old car but don't want to buy a new one from him and think that you really, really deserve to have a better car?

XyZspineZyX
08-10-2003, 10:42 PM
Original IL2 cannot control more than one engine, this was the reason we didnt get the 262 until FB came out, originally the 262 was supposed to come out in a patch last summer but they found they needed to change too much to control the 2 engines. And there are plenty of bombers in IL2 to fly, how many different versions of the IL2 do ya got, and a Stuka/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-11-2003, 12:54 AM
Rifleman75 wrote:
i was told about this .dll, and i
- downloaded it and it fixed . . .



I had this, but reinstalled the game, and can't find it now. Does anyone remember where it might be found?

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