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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 06:14 PM
Hi everyone im new to the board so just saying hi and one little Q for yous all.

Anyone here play with a force feedback Joystick, im currently using a thrustmaster Top gun pro and it has no FF. I was wondering does it make much of a difference with FF or not. I really love this game and want the most from it.

Still no CD to play http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 06:14 PM
Hi everyone im new to the board so just saying hi and one little Q for yous all.

Anyone here play with a force feedback Joystick, im currently using a thrustmaster Top gun pro and it has no FF. I was wondering does it make much of a difference with FF or not. I really love this game and want the most from it.

Still no CD to play http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:36 PM
Hi,

I recently bought FB and a Thrustmaster Wingman FFB stick and I love it, had to turn the mg and cannon feedback file down a bit to make shooting easier but apart from that its great.

Feedback combined with my hands shaking from the adrenaline make for an exciting game.





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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:48 PM
Microsoft FFB2..... http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php/page_id=52/ut=445619281f346f0c

Saitek X45....non FFB but great stick...
FFB is really nice and adds another dimension to your simming experience. I use the MSFFB stick and have had no issues with it.

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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:49 PM
Ah... you don't need FFB.

I have one of these;

http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/911.gif

Logitech Freedom 2.4 Ghz Cordless
* 10 buttons (18 commands when one button is assigned as a shift)
* Smooth heavy metal throttle design
* Twisty handle for rudder control
* Cordless
* $60.00-70.00 U.S.



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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:50 PM
GO GET ONE!

You will not regret it.
It really adds to the realism.
I have not long had the Thrustmaster Afterburner FF and love it.Make this game real special./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 10:04 AM
I have the MSFFB2 and it is great. You can actually feel when the plane is loosing energy or about to stall (someone posted that tip in the forums, and I went to try it out) and gives you more of a sense of flying a real plane. The stickmovement is specially great when you do some silly acrobatics or force it into a stall. Really a great feeling /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Its true that with shooting it gets harder to aim, but since I cannot shoot to save my life i'm not misisng much there /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I probably need to adjust some of the settings, so i'll have a go at that.

Its cool to break things when they work.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 11:39 AM
I think you'll find that MOST people fly with FF. I personally find it harder to fly WITHOUT it now, as it gives you so much......errrr, FEEDBACK of the a/c's behaviour. You can feel the buffeting at the onset of a stall or spin and therefore ease off to avoid it. You feel the recoil from your own weapons and the impacts of the hits upon you. It's an essential additional "sense" for flight simulator flying. I would recommend the Saitek 3D FF to give you this extra sense.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 01:20 PM
Hey BpGemini,

I also have the Logitech - great stick! A friend of mine convinced me to try the Saitek x45 recently and while the throttle os pretty good the stick is too big for my hands. I think I am going to go back to my trusty Logitech and I was wondering how you've got yours setup. 18 functions is a lot but clearly their are waaaaaay more in the game.

Just curious

bail0ut

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 04:38 PM
bail0ut wrote:
- Hey BpGemini,
-
- I also have the Logitech - great stick! A friend of
- mine convinced me to try the Saitek x45 recently and
- while the throttle os pretty good the stick is too
- big for my hands. I think I am going to go back to
- my trusty Logitech and I was wondering how you've
- got yours setup. 18 functions is a lot but clearly
- their are waaaaaay more in the game.
-
- Just curious



I'm currently without a webspace provider or else I would just print out and scan my layout then post it. Let me know if you understand my descriptions.

Keep in mind I fly the P-39 almost exclusively.
The Hat switch and Throttle slider were left as default.
I use the hat switch for looking around so there's no need for external view buttons, I don't play with externals on, so it wouldn't work anyway.


Position: <table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">Function<font color="yellow"> {Shifted function}</font></table style>
Trigger:<table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">Weapon 1 (MGs)<font color="yellow"> {Weapon 1}</font></table style>
Thumb: <table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">Weapon 2 (Cannon) <font color="yellow"> {Weapon 2}</font></table style>
Stick Upper Left: <table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">- Prop Pitch<font color="yellow"> {Weapon 3 (Rockets)} </font></table style>
Stick Upper Right: <table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">+ Prop Pitch<font color="yellow"> {Weapon 4 (Bombs)} </font></table style>
Stick Lower Left: <table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">Flaps Down<font color="yellow"> {- Elevator Trim}</font></table style>
Stick Lower Right: <table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">Flaps Up<font color="yellow"> {+ Elevator Trim}</font></table style>
Base Front Left: <table style="filter:glow[color=yellow,strength=1)">Shift</table style>
Base Front Right: <table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">Gun sight View <font color="yellow"> {Internal Padlock Enemy}</font></table style>
Base Middle: <table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">Normal View<font color="yellow"> {Gear up/down}</font></table style>
Base Back: <table style="filter:glow[color=blue,strength=1)">Extended View<font color="yellow"> {Wheel Brake}</font></table style>

These are about the only functions I need or use while flying my P-39. I remapped the four arrow keys on the keyboard for a Supercharger and Fuel mixture just in case I need them in a different fighter or for higher altitudes. And a couple other keyboard changes.

Up arrow: Supercharger + 1 level
Down arrow: Supercharger - 1 level
Right arrow: Fuel Mixture increase
Left arrow: Fuel Mixture decrease

O: Manual Gear up
L: Manual Gear Down
4th Optical Mouse Button: Switch to Gunner/Pilot

I can't recall anything I'm leaving out. Most everything else is default. When I play, I set my Joystick on my keyboard tray and my keyboard on my computer desk. With this set up some of the keyboard functions are within a fingers reach.







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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:08 PM
gem dont you love when it runs out of batteries and you have none.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:23 PM
I love FF - I would really miss it if I didn't have it.
My stick is a Saitek Cyborg 3D Rumble - only ‚£40 ($25-ish?)
Worth every Penny IMHO.


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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:23 PM
Question: Are there any issues with using a twist-handle joystick with rudder pedals?

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:37 PM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
- gem dont you love when it runs out of batteries and you have none.



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My batteries went dead during one of BlitPig_Mung's 'Don't die or we'll send a hitman to kill you' Co-op missions. They were like, "WTF, Gemini did you just crash?" Obviously that's a rhetorical question since the screen read BlitzPig_Gemini Crashes. Little did they know I was no longer on Team Speak and was running around the house looking for batteries.

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I got smart after that. I have a battery charger next to my computer with 6 rechargeable batteries. 3 fresh and 3 in use at all times. No problems since.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 10:11 PM
I like the MS sidewinder sticks. Good solid stick for the money. Logitech seems a little flimsy to me.

BTW, if anyone wants a Microsoft stick, better hurry and get it now. They may be quiting the periphial business. http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=6537 (OK, so this is from MacWorld...may be a bit speculative.)

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 01:58 AM
OK, while were on the subject of joysticks, what sort of life do you get from them? I have yet to have one last more than 6 months without something breaking. Of course I yet to spend more than $50 for one and maybe that's the problem !

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 04:40 AM
perioikos wrote:
- Question: Are there any issues with using a
- twist-handle joystick with rudder pedals?


Not at all..... in fact you can map your rudder trim to the twist handle. My rudder trim is on the twist handle of my FFB stick....the rocker on the X45 is for flaps.


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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 02:59 PM
Bump for Bailout.



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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 02:52 AM
BpGemini,

Thanks for the setup - got mine slightly different but using most of the same things http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. I never used Prop Pitch but I think I'm going to give that a go as many people like the control that it gives them.

One other device you might want to pick up is a Mostromo N50 Speedpad. Basically a mini-keyboard that has 10 buttons a throttle and a hat. Lots of shift states so you can get around 50 or so functions out of it.

Now I need to lower the sensitivity of the stick and I'm off... to get blown out of the sky

bail0ut

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 02:52 AM
BpGemini,

Thanks for the setup - got mine slightly different but using most of the same things /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif . I never used Prop Pitch but I think I'm going to give that a go as many people like the control that it gives them.

One other device you might want to pick up is a Mostromo N50 Speedpad. Basically a mini-keyboard that has 10 buttons a throttle and a hat. Lots of shift states so you can get around 50 or so functions out of it.

Now I need to lower the sensitivity of the stick and I'm off... to get blown out of the sky

bail0ut

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 05:11 AM
Bearcat99 wrote:
-
- Saitek X45....non FFB but great stick...

Do you have a good profile created, or know where I can find them?

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