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SodBuster43
03-16-2004, 11:09 AM
Please only the full real players respond to this thread!

I have enjoyed aircraft my entire life. Unfortunately I never learned to fly the real thing. I have, however, sat in the copilots seat of my uncles twin engine piper aztec on numerous occasions and have been allowed to, on one occasion, perform a coordinated turn, lol, with my uncles instruction. this is the closest I ever came to piloting a real aircraft as brief as it was.

My uncle and my cousin (his son) are both Captains for a major airline. My uncle is now retired. So, I have had much exposure to aircraft from close relatives.

Throughout my life, I have built and flown model aircraft including static models and also, free flight and radio controlled model aircraft. Many of my models were displayed at my local hobby shop for others to enjoy.

Personally I get much more enjoyment from games like IL-2 FB when I play online or offline with my butt permanently planted in the pilots seat of the cockpit for the duration of the flight. Unless of course I get shot down and need to eject. This includes not using external and cockpit off views.

I don't use padlock as my hat control works fine for tracking aircraft. Granted it looks like I have a stiff neck but oh well. I use speed bar simply because some planes have hidden instrumentation.

I also prefer to have my aircraft position displayed on the map as it is easy to lose your bearings on large maps. But, I have lived without this feature just fine if the host prefers it this way. I usually can determine my approximate position if need be.

If icons are enabled, I prefer to have friendly only. This makes it easy to form up and communicate with teammates.

So, from the "Full Real" or rather "Full Difficulty" crowd. Could you please tell me a little bit about yourselves and which game settings you think qualify under the catagory of "Full Real".

SodBuster43
03-16-2004, 11:09 AM
Please only the full real players respond to this thread!

I have enjoyed aircraft my entire life. Unfortunately I never learned to fly the real thing. I have, however, sat in the copilots seat of my uncles twin engine piper aztec on numerous occasions and have been allowed to, on one occasion, perform a coordinated turn, lol, with my uncles instruction. this is the closest I ever came to piloting a real aircraft as brief as it was.

My uncle and my cousin (his son) are both Captains for a major airline. My uncle is now retired. So, I have had much exposure to aircraft from close relatives.

Throughout my life, I have built and flown model aircraft including static models and also, free flight and radio controlled model aircraft. Many of my models were displayed at my local hobby shop for others to enjoy.

Personally I get much more enjoyment from games like IL-2 FB when I play online or offline with my butt permanently planted in the pilots seat of the cockpit for the duration of the flight. Unless of course I get shot down and need to eject. This includes not using external and cockpit off views.

I don't use padlock as my hat control works fine for tracking aircraft. Granted it looks like I have a stiff neck but oh well. I use speed bar simply because some planes have hidden instrumentation.

I also prefer to have my aircraft position displayed on the map as it is easy to lose your bearings on large maps. But, I have lived without this feature just fine if the host prefers it this way. I usually can determine my approximate position if need be.

If icons are enabled, I prefer to have friendly only. This makes it easy to form up and communicate with teammates.

So, from the "Full Real" or rather "Full Difficulty" crowd. Could you please tell me a little bit about yourselves and which game settings you think qualify under the catagory of "Full Real".

SeaFireLIV
03-16-2004, 11:21 AM
Oh no. Not again. You do know it will be impossible for our `no cockpit` mode flyers and other flying types (not full real) not to respond. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Anyway...

Tell you a little about ourselves? Hmm.

Well, I play with all settings except map waypoint settings (so i can see my aircraft on the map, but not the enemy. Thinking of changing this, but will need to print out the FB maps...)

I have outside views on to view my aircraft at the start line up, As pilot coming to his plane, and after I bail. I also like to look around if on a particularly long trip. I NEVER look at the enemy cos I don`t wish to ruin the surprise of what I`ll meet.

I also have the HUD commands off and Speedbar off. I know most of the Alied cockpits well enough now so I know when i`m about to overheat (in the LA5). I know my radiator settings off by heart- 5 radiator taps are full open. 1 is closed.

Also it`s more enjoyable shooting down a FW, seeing it dive into clouds and waiting for a `confirm` from my wingman rather than seeing `Enemy Aircraft destroyed` come on screen.

I actually get really annoyed when `Gun jammed` appears and prefer not to know until I open fire.

I just wish I could get rid of Mission Failed/Success now.

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pudsterIV
03-16-2004, 11:27 AM
Oh my ,you guys play full real? Can i have your autograph because you are so cool.

LilHorse
03-16-2004, 12:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pudsterIV:
Oh my ,you guys play full real? Can i have your autograph because you are so cool.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No. 'Cause I'm so feckin' cool you can't have my autograph. Nobody can. But, truth be told, it's really hard being so cool all the time. Gosh! You really seem so humble and I'm sure you are totally without the burden of ego. Wow! It must be great to be so enlightened. And yet not so enlightened that you can't be a sarcastic little weasel. Can I be you?
Of course if that involves preferring anything other than full real flying then forget it. I'll just have to stay me. But hey, what's the difference. FR guys. Non-FR guys. We're all a part of the same great continuum of the whole right? Or maybe not.

El Turo
03-16-2004, 12:19 PM
I agree with the previous sentiments..

I enjoy flying very much and can handle full-real settings but I do find the lack of instrumentation-specific view-toggle a little annoying and so I prefer the speedbar (as I have no track-IR) to make up for it. For lack of a printed-map I do prefer to have the navigation icon listed as a minimum (white plane only).

I think the in-game text messages are cheesy and wish that the online servers would disable them. I shouldn't know if I have taken out my opponent's control cables... nor should he have that advantage over me.

I've experimented without any icons and find it incredibly difficult to identify friend from foe because of the sheer number of available aircraft in this wonderful sim. Perhaps that will come with more time spent, but that's my biggest problem right now is attempting to IFF bogies.

I do love it though! I don't look down on the no-cockpit crowd, but I really and truly don't understand it. Why look for the most accurate and realistic sim ever made but play it without the realism and simulation? I don't get it.

But, to each his own.

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TacticalSkirmsh
03-16-2004, 12:26 PM
I occasionally fly full-real, meaning I select the game setting entitled "Realism" in Oleg's game.

I mostly fly with my squad mates with the following settings: "realism" minus icons/padlock/flight path[your own plane icon]/speedbar.

I prefer a limited icon system too. While I can live without padlock, I have found it a challenge to use properly since one can quickly lose SA when multiple planes are around. I accept the criticism folks made concerning padlock. Yet, for the most part a realistic approach to imitate the ability of pilots to track planes from within their cockpit (i.e., head AND body movement). But no, padlock should be instantly lost when plane is out of actual view (i.e., clouds).

Finally, I have nothing against those who fly without cockpits and/or with externals (or any other way), but dislike anything other than being "stuck" into the cockpit.

Not sure if this is what you were looking for. If you have been looking at UBI you will quickly realize that the completely "full-real" crowd are certainly in the minority with regards to servers.

Instead of asking permission, friend, decide what you want from this great game. Then you will not need the support of others in your gaming enjoyment.

Best regards,
TactS!

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BM357_Raven
03-16-2004, 12:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
I also have the HUD commands off and Speedbar off. I know most of the Alied cockpits well enough now so I know when i`m about to overheat (in the LA5). I know my radiator settings off by heart- 5 radiator taps are full open. 1 is closed.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you can do it, then I can do it.. I think my main problem is that I have it assigned to one of my thumb switches on my throttle that I periodically tap.. Just need to move to a place that is a little more obscure.

I fly FR, SB.. I started a thread with a dorky name called My Favorite Debate.. You can learn everything about me in that thread..

And pudsterIV, I'm not cool, I just pretend to be.

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UncleVanya2001
03-16-2004, 12:56 PM
I fly full real in all my single-player campaigns. (Printed out the maps someone--fergit who--had made over at mudmovers.) But in QMB I'll either record a track & watch it with manual view control, or enable external views so I can see some of these beautiful planes.

I don't like WWV, external views, map icons, or padlock view (mouse works fine for situational awareness & to track an enemy) in on-line servers...but mostly because I don't use 'em & don't want the wieners who do to have even a SLIGHT advantage over me. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif Limited icons are okay, but mostly cuz I don't wanna get shot up by an ignorant team-mate! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Hell, i don't even know HOW to enable padlock view.

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carguy_
03-16-2004, 12:58 PM
I have been flying FR from the first QMB in IL2.

I`m a realism freak and I love history.If anything is "willing" to be historically and realistically accurate,it`s ok with me.

That said,I don`t have a HOTAS.I use a simple Thrustmaster Pro stick without throttle or FFB.
For looking around I use numpad keys and I`m proffesional with it(learned in 4 months,that`s something around 2 years of practice).

"Full Real" for me means everything switched on(difficulty setup) except for the speedbar.

I use speedbar because of two things:
1.Some parts of the cockpit are being obscured in some aircraft.
2.I have a 15" monitor which is very lousy for reading the gauges.To read any gauge I have to use Delete to get the closest view - very difficult while fighting and speed,height data is vital for the outcome.Without the speedbar I simply can`t make a quick sweep of my flight data.

Even though speedbar is very important for me,I fly without it if the host prefers.

Everything about engines,flight dynamics,gunnery must be realistic.I fly Me109,so lack of the mix setting is a pain.

Things about the map.I only tolerate the displayed route and my plane icon on the map,though I prefer more realistic settings.I just look around and I know where I am.I admit that German compass is significant for navigating.Doing it in VVS planes is sometimes frustrating.

I`m a B&Z pilot so externals ruin my every attack.It also reveals all tactical moves of my conterparts and mine.

Heh,I`d like an option where in a coop room the sides would not see each other`s planes.I`d like to be surprised by a swarm of unidentified objects going my way.

I have no problem distingiushing aircraft types so icons(any type) are a no-no.

A fly usually coops/online wars cuz only there I can make up some nice tactics to win the mission.
In DF servers I`m nothing but a target.

Ofcourse some of the difficulty options turned off would leave me at a major disadvantage,but realism is the way to go for me.

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El Turo
03-16-2004, 01:09 PM
One of the few things I really did like about my time at WWII Online was the icon system. You got a very very soft non-side specific icon that would fade in slowly as you maintained visual acquisition and got closer.

The aircraft-ID would come up around 750m or so but would still fade in/out as you lost visual acquisition and regained it once more.

I thought it was an elegant way to simulate peripheral vision and sustained visual acuity/scrutiny of a distant contact.

That, and an "instrument panel view" toggle was nice to have as well. I wish IL2 would incorporate something along those lines for a quick view of your gauges without having to manually manipulate your pilot's head. It's just too cumbersome.

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03-16-2004, 01:11 PM
Nearsighted. Did some time as a cadet in AFROTC, but bailed for private industry, dreading becoming a government deskjockey. Now I work in private aerospace, where everybody is still a bunch of deskjockey bureaucrats.

The golden age of aviation is over. Simulations are a nice vacation.

heywooood
03-16-2004, 02:43 PM
Ifly full real except for the icons so I can tell whos who.. and the speedbar so I know where Im going ..and the cockpit gets in the way so thats off.. and I need the map stuff on too but I only look at my guys.. I have a helper-monkey that slaps me if he thinks Im cheating..his name is MR bubbles.. he wears a flying hat that is full real...oh and I always have unlimited ammo so I dont run out

TacticalSkirmsh
03-16-2004, 05:59 PM
hey heywoood, you don't really use the speedbar, do you? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Now that monkey thing, is that a real WW-II authorized one or no?

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willyvic
03-16-2004, 06:57 PM
Doesn't look like you'll get any respones from FULL REAL flyers Sodbuster. Everyone seems to have his/her little things they liked turned on. Guess there are no full real pilots after all..... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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ZG77_Lignite
03-16-2004, 09:02 PM
I flip the 'no instant mission success' button off after I hit 'realistic'. Guess that makes me an arcade flyer, and proud of it. Sure gives me a great sense of immersion though. I like how lilHorse explained all of it, I find I have a very similar attitude.

Admittedly I'm limited by the way I fly; I am almost useless in the He-111, because I'm unable to adjust the bombsight correctly, and those Japanese aircraft, reading those guages is straining for my poor brain. But its still great fun to try http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Slammin_
03-16-2004, 09:36 PM
I didn't read this whole thread. I only read part of the original posters stuff, which was enough to let me know where this is headed.

I did read enough to gather that this was YET ANOTHER Stab at anyone that does not play this sim the way SOME others require.

Amazing.

What is the threat? What is up with all you snobs? You fear some of us will never graduate up to your levels?

I've challenged before, and will again, any one of you snobs, at your settings. These threads suck, and I challenge any one of you snobs, and you should know that I run a "Wonder Woman" friggin server - I should be cannon fodder for you, so don't be skeerd.

Shut the hell up with this crap in this forum, or put up your friggin dukes.

But please, spare me from even more of this crap!


These type threads grate on me.

SodBuster43
03-16-2004, 09:41 PM
LOL....oh well. It is true, if you make one exception to "default realistic" you aren't playing "full real".

So lately I find myself flying on any server that at least has disabled "no cockpit". this just gets under my skin knowing others are looking through the space commander hud and more easily shooting down folks.

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ajafoofoo
03-16-2004, 09:42 PM
I'll say one thing about cockpit settings, if you are gonna run cockpit only, please for the love of all that is sane, turn off the damn externals.

Nothing is more annoying than the cheap external exploits that go on when that feature is enabled.

You've got the people who pride themselves on being hard targets by juking by watching the enemies nose through external.

Then you have the tards who use it to make sure they are the highest or higher than all the enemies.

Makes for some real crappy gameplay.

03-16-2004, 10:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ajafoofoo:
I'll say one thing about cockpit settings, if you are gonna run cockpit only, please for the love of all that is sane, turn off the damn externals.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

YES! That damn F6 radar ruins externals.

Oleg, please make F6 radar a separate setting so we can get plain old NO PADLOCK externals without the silly arcade crap.

SKY_BOSS
03-16-2004, 10:15 PM
Button up the game at 100% full real. Those servers are hard to find but what a blast when you find one. Externals,icons and all the other stuff just blows the sim. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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ARSNL
03-16-2004, 10:16 PM
I like playing 'Full Difficulty'. Not all I play though.

I don't call it full real because I still think that the view presented to us from the cockpit in any game is not realistic. Likewise, seeing your plane from the outside is obvously not realistic as well.

Until someone comes up with a really good/cheap VR set (wich I am not holding my breath for) this argument will never end. I can't even end it with myself lol.

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BM357_Raven
03-17-2004, 02:46 AM
I think I'm gonna start calling it Most Real, or maybe Can't Get Realer.. Any votes for CGR?

Or, Realistic Real?

How about Real Real or even Really Really Real.. RRR? 3R? R cubed...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

How about Real Full? or would that be Really Full? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

42? Super Real? Super Bad?...


I got it:

The Mothership! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif


I know what's wrong with me, I just can't pin-point it.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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BM357_Raven
03-17-2004, 02:49 AM
Ok.. I'll go to bed now... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

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Deathreaper666
03-17-2004, 03:06 AM
I would like to smell the oil burning and have real bullets ripping into my plane. That "real" enough for ya? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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Rajvosa
03-17-2004, 03:14 AM
Oh, God!

Not another barf thread! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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TPCMike
03-17-2004, 03:16 AM
I turned cockpit off for the first time the other day when I was flying. I fly with cockpit on for the simple reason that I like to see the cockpit, makes it feel more an aircraft. I haven't ever really cared whether other people have theirs on or off.

However I couldn't believe it when I tried it briefly (and didn't like it), there were little red/blue arrows all around the edge of my screen pointing to where the other aircraft are. What the hell is all that about? I didn't know that no pit gave you that.

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SeaFireLIV
03-17-2004, 03:19 AM
LoL, raven.

I think some people really miss the whole point when they quibble about full real or full difficulty. It reminds me of the pointless arguments with the X-wife where i`d try to argue about the main point and she`d argue all around about the periphery and nothing got achieved at all.


Anyway, I digress, for me, it`s not so much how `Realistic` the sim is, but how much respect you are giving to the brave souls who fought and died in our defence all those years ago. Playing in unlimited ammo, just to have `fun`, treating it as just a `blast` shoot em up, does not , in my view show that required respect .

Does it make you think? Does it make you wonder about the enormity of it all, the collosal sacrifice made sometimes? Then you`re showing some respect whther you play on Full real, or slightly real.

When I want a pointless brainless blast, I play UT2003 (2004 I will get on Friday http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif).

Anyway, all to their own. This is just my personal point of view. On this forum, we`re all pilots here.

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HH Quazi
03-17-2004, 03:20 AM
That's the way they all are. "I fly full real, except I have the speed bar on." loll You guys are a hoot. Unlike some in here, I read these types of threads just to see how hard people have too stroke their egos to feel like they are some knid of accomplished virtual pilot. loll Some of you aren't stroking as hard as others. loll LMAO No disrespect intended to anyone. It's just a topic that's been beat to death. But I still find myself interested in reading these types of threads. This is, however, the first time I've felt compelled to post in one. I guess you could say that I am a FR player, except I have WWV enabled. LMAO!!! S!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by willyvic:
Doesn't look like you'll get any respones from FULL REAL flyers Sodbuster. Everyone seems to have his/her little things they liked turned on. Guess there are no full real pilots after all..... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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SeaFireLIV
03-17-2004, 03:26 AM
At least we are honest! It`s funny.

Normally we get someone come on saying I use WWV and then the realistic boys come on and take him down, then someone else says , `Don`t pick on him!`

Now it seems all the WWV people are coming here to get their revenge on the realistic people. Kinda hypocritical in my view.LMOA.

DaBallz
03-17-2004, 03:50 AM
Full real? Now that's a joke!
It will be full real when you choke on the
smoke from the burning nitrocelluose from
the nose cannon, gag on the oil fumes from
the small arms hit in the cooler,
defecate because
you just pulled 9 g's and your bowels could
not hold.....
And you are hospitialised for the windscreen
fragments stuck in your forehead.

Full real, now that's a joke!

Da...

AWL_Spinner
03-17-2004, 03:52 AM
Random ramblings.... this thread's just about personal preferences, right?

I used to favour the speedbar purely because most of my online flying was in VOW where that's the default setting. After playing a couple of offline campaigns and actually getting used to reading the dials, as I believe one should if adhering to the "FR" concept, I find that much more enjoyable (along with having the HUD off, etc.).

However for me at least I've not time to learn all of the aircraft in this sim so that's only really practical in a couple of types. Then again, how many pilots in WWII were flying fifteen different types over a week? Where possible, I'll stick to my favourite mounts.

However, I agree that in THIS sim, it's not always practical to have all the aids off. Specifically, in cockpits where some instrumentation is either a) non-functional or obscured from view or b) just plain missing, it's very hard just to "guess". I have high hopes that things like radiator settings, etc., will be properly visible in Battle of Britain. A nirvana of message-less flying.

Also, the odd time I start FB without loading the Naturalpoint software first reminds me how very different things are without TrackIR. For me, at least, full-switch settings are only really practical when flying with TrackIR. Please don't take that as an "everyone should have it" dig, that's purely the practicalities and limitations of my own experience. I'm not capable of flying well without it in an enclosed pit, as a real life pilot I find it too restrictive, not only in scanning the sky but also the instruments.

Regarding icons, I'm not a big fan, it takes time but you do get used to visually IDing aircraft, that's good enough for me. People in VOW seem to have no problem. The flipside of the argument that visual representation is so lacking in FB that you need icons is that in real life, especially in low light conditions, it's sometimes well nigh impossible to see other aircraft against certain backgrounds until at very close range. It can actually be far EASIER to spot black dots in FB. Swings and roundabouts.

All in all, I love my FB http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Jetbuff
03-17-2004, 06:14 AM
I divide the settings in FB into 3 categories:

No-No's:
- Everything to do with the FM, gunnery, what have you...
- Pit MUST be closed and no externals

Maybe's that I'd prefer to go without:
- Minimap
- Icons (3-4k with no IFF)

Hate-to's but gotta:
- Speedbar (for our VVS opponents)
- Padlock if not everyone flying has suitable hardware

Therefore, my preferences are:
A) Ideally - full difficulty (all the boxes checked)
B) Usually - full difficulty + padlock and/or speedbar
C) Reluctantly - B) + icons and/or minimap


Does this mean I'm cool too? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fly whatever makes you comfortable, I just happen to be a masochist, doesn't mean you should be too... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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faint_
03-17-2004, 09:00 AM
had a nice hop last night on the MOH server Sky_Boss, great to see a squad pushing full real (or close to it) settings. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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BM357_ZoD
03-17-2004, 09:18 AM
i enjoy full real setting with the hud on (im not good enuf to fly with out the hud http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif ) and would like to exstened my thanks once again to the BM357Th as they got me in to FR when i join and i never looked back(ha ha get cause i cant i could be fore with the external view lol cant see strait back anymore http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif ) P.S. this is smilly infested now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/smileys-gun2.gif

All kneel to ZoD
http://bm357.com/

Aztek_Eagle
03-17-2004, 10:39 AM
The only way to learn full real is to play full real, and it doesnt mean externals to see my aircraft, o arcraft on map, that isnt full real, full real is full real, the closes server to full real is greatergreen, to bad it havent updated to aep, as there is not dedicated server avaliable, i had a hard time at first but now i am doing pretty good

http://greatergreen.com/il2/stats/playerdetails.php?id=4427

Aztek_Eagle
03-17-2004, 10:41 AM
the only problem now, that when i get shoot down i get realy anger, the price of suces http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif