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Saar Ben Kiki
08-26-2012, 04:45 PM
as we know, after acb's ending, theres a conversation between two assassins in the credits, one of them is william m. :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXAGynCzmAs
in :57 they talk, both dont really sound familiar (william m. voice isnt his)

but then theres the beginning of acr, when someone gives us a sum up of desmond's life like he knows him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npu0iKU_aws

whos this guy speaking? any idea/speculation?

Layytez
08-26-2012, 04:51 PM
Nick Jameson voiced William in Brotherhood and John de Lancie voiced him in Revelations.

Saar Ben Kiki
08-26-2012, 04:54 PM
so whos the other fella?
any idea whos behind the voice at least?

dxsxhxcx
08-26-2012, 05:02 PM
if I'm not wrong at the beginning of ACR who is speaking is S16...

Layytez
08-26-2012, 05:03 PM
Oh the guy speaking at the beginning of ACR is Subject 16.

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 05:05 PM
The other Guy is probably an Insignificant Maggot who never got anywhere in life but becoming William`s servant..

F4H bandicoot
08-26-2012, 05:05 PM
S16 is talking at the start of AC:R.

LoyalACFan
08-26-2012, 05:14 PM
The other Guy is probably an Insignificant Maggot who never got anywhere in life but becoming William`s servant..

Basically this. I imagine a squad of Assassins came to meet them at the Vault after they found the Apple, and he was one of the underlings.

Saar Ben Kiki
08-26-2012, 05:28 PM
its not s16
match the beginning (0:32) with the conversation at 3:24
it is different, a bit similiar but its the same person !
i hope if its an assassin squad so we get a flashback/explanation in ac3's beginning

edit:
even better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnnvoeBPygQ
here he sounds VERY different from that other guy in the beginning, its not s16!

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 05:30 PM
its not s16
match the beginning (0:32) with the conversation at 3:24
it is different, a bit similiar but its the same person !
i hope if its an assassin squad so we get a flashback/explanation in ac3's beginning
Its 16, mate..

ACfan443
08-26-2012, 05:31 PM
Watching those credits brings back the memories of THAT ending, it emotionally stirred me for hours. Ahem..anyway yeah it's subject 16 :L

HisSpiritLives
08-26-2012, 05:33 PM
its not s16
match the beginning (0:32) with the conversation at 3:24
it is different, a bit similiar but its the same person !
i hope if its an assassin squad so we get a flashback/explanation in ac3's beginning

edit:
even better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnnvoeBPygQ
here he sounds VERY different from that other guy in the beginning, its not s16!

Yes definetly 16

Saar Ben Kiki
08-26-2012, 05:58 PM
Erm, i guess im the only to think otherwise...

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 05:59 PM
Erm, i guess im the only to think otherwise...
And you should think as we think, because we are many and you are one...you must listen to what we say.. because we are more than you.. and of course the more will beat the one...

No seriously, its 16

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 06:07 PM
I thought one of them was Phil Miles. 0.o :nonchalance:

Saar Ben Kiki
08-26-2012, 06:21 PM
And you should think as we think, because we are many and you are one...you must listen to what we say.. because we are more than you.. and of course the more will beat the one...

No seriously, its 16

lol this sounds brainwashing M lmao

and whos phil miles? dessy's long lost brother? :D

no srs;ly s16's voice is a bit more shaky and less confident and more pitchy
and M its just a few ppl here said so.. im still skeptic ;o

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 06:22 PM
His father, Desmond Miles' father is Phil Miles. I am pretty darn sure about it.

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 06:22 PM
lol this sounds brainwashing M lmao

and whos phil miles? dessy's long lost brother? :D

no srs;ly s16's voice is a bit more shaky and less confident and more pitchy
and M its just a few ppl here said so.. im still skeptic ;o
I`ll get you a Mod to tell you that its 16..

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 06:24 PM
What of the other guy, he is Phil Miles, I am pretty darn sure.

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 06:46 PM
What of the other guy, he is Phil Miles, I am pretty darn sure.
Who in god`s name is Phil Miles ?

Calvarok
08-26-2012, 06:47 PM
What of the other guy, he is Phil Miles, I am pretty darn sure.
There is no Phil Miles. There is only William and Desmond Miles.

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 06:57 PM
William must be his father, am I correct?

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 07:01 PM
William must be his father, am I correct?
William is Desmond`s father, Yes..

There is no Phil.. No Phil

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 07:05 PM
Sorry for the misunderstanding. (:

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 07:10 PM
Sorry for the misunderstanding. (:
Ah, no worries..

I was just like "Phil ? did I miss anything ?":p

De Filosoof
08-26-2012, 07:21 PM
Ah, no worries..

I was just like "Phil ? did I miss anything ?":p

I think he meant Bill, it's short for William.
He called himself Bill in one of the emails in ACB.

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 07:22 PM
I think he meant Bill, it's short for William.
He called himself Bill in one of the emails in ACB.

LOL. Too funny. :D

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 07:23 PM
I think he meant Bill, it's short for William.
He called himself Bill in one of the emails in ACB.
Ahhh.. Now that makes more sense, but I don't think it was due to the emails, because the spelling is perfectly clear, it was probably due to Shaun calling him that during ACR..

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 07:23 PM
LOL. Too funny. :D
Funny ? Wha- ?

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 07:28 PM
Lol. It was just a short error my brain came across when I read the official guide of Revelations. xD
Thanks for understanding. :P

Assassin_M
08-26-2012, 07:29 PM
Lol. It was just a short error my brain came across when I read the official guide of Revelations. xD
Thanks for understanding. :P
Oh... ok then xD

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 07:32 PM
So, it is William Miles and Subject 16. I see.

jzsnyder
08-26-2012, 07:35 PM
I can't wait until Phil Miles is actually revealed to be Desmond's true father in AC3.

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 07:38 PM
Lol, stop it. xD

MT4K
08-26-2012, 07:39 PM
Lol, stop it. xD

This will probably haunt you for the rest of your life. Hope you can handle that :D.

Jay_2750
08-26-2012, 07:49 PM
I will attempt to deal with it. :P

TheHumanTowel
08-26-2012, 07:54 PM
Phil is William Miles' evil twin.

Saar Ben Kiki
08-26-2012, 08:11 PM
Phil is William Miles' evil twin.
isnt he also the ancestor of this one assassin, Bonner Railway?
some assassin from the chechnyan revolution i think... russian..!

projectpat06
08-26-2012, 08:18 PM
I don't really care who it is but with the mention of the underlings, I hope we get to finally see the assassins begin to come out from hiding (the ones who are still alive at least) and help Desmond. They don't have to be anything more than minor characters with no names but it would be cool for them to all unite against the Templars or find a way to come to peace with the Templars in order to save the world they are both fighting over.

Serrachio
08-27-2012, 04:43 AM
There was a person in the French comic that was named "Tom". I wonder if they'll reintroduce him, with it being a canon character this time around.

LoyalACFan
08-27-2012, 05:32 AM
There was a person in the French comic that was named "Tom". I wonder if they'll reintroduce him, with it being a canon character this time around.

Well, considering Subject 16 was an old geezer named Michael in the French comic, I'm kind of doubting that any of the other modern characters will spring to the canon.

Serrachio
08-27-2012, 06:21 AM
Well, considering Subject 16 was an old geezer named Michael in the French comic, I'm kind of doubting that any of the other modern characters will spring to the canon.

Yeah, but he was a pretty generic Assassin, so it could happen.

Calvarok
08-27-2012, 06:24 AM
I doubt think any of the people on the AC story team paid much attention to the french comics.