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RAF74_Buzzsaw
03-05-2004, 03:03 AM
Salute all

I have been fooling around with P-80 in quick mission, and although it is obviously not the same as on servers, it is clear to me that the P-80 has advantages.

It does not accelerate as fast as Germans, but it has much better maneuverability, and can adjust speed much more easily. With combat flaps, it will outturn most.

You have to be careful of German guns, but .50 calibre on P-80 will easily destroy any of the German jets. One hit on engines and they are flaming.

The only plane which is a problem is Me163, but you just have to wait till it runs out of fuel and then kill it... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

One question for Oleg:

Why is there no flameout for He162 when you increase throttle quickly? Was there not the same problems with metallurgy in this plane?

Thankyou RAF74 Buzzsaw

RAF74_Buzzsaw
03-05-2004, 03:03 AM
Salute all

I have been fooling around with P-80 in quick mission, and although it is obviously not the same as on servers, it is clear to me that the P-80 has advantages.

It does not accelerate as fast as Germans, but it has much better maneuverability, and can adjust speed much more easily. With combat flaps, it will outturn most.

You have to be careful of German guns, but .50 calibre on P-80 will easily destroy any of the German jets. One hit on engines and they are flaming.

The only plane which is a problem is Me163, but you just have to wait till it runs out of fuel and then kill it... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

One question for Oleg:

Why is there no flameout for He162 when you increase throttle quickly? Was there not the same problems with metallurgy in this plane?

Thankyou RAF74 Buzzsaw

Oleg_Maddox
03-05-2004, 03:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RAF74BuzzsawXO:
Salute all

I have been fooling around with P-80 in quick mission, and although it is obviously not the same as on servers, it is clear to me that the P-80 has advantages.

It does not accelerate as fast as Germans, but it has much better maneuverability, and can adjust speed much more easily. With combat flaps, it will outturn most.

You have to be careful of German guns, but .50 calibre on P-80 will easily destroy any of the German jets. One hit on engines and they are flaming.

The only plane which is a problem is Me163, but you just have to wait till it runs out of fuel and then kill it... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

One question for Oleg:

Why is there no flameout for He162 when you increase throttle quickly? Was there not the same problems with metallurgy in this plane?

Thankyou RAF74 Buzzsaw<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me-262 and He-162 has different engines types. So behavior is different.

Oleg_Maddox
03-05-2004, 03:09 AM
And I agree with you that P-80 probably was the best jet fighter created in WWII time.
At least I feel the same.

Boandlgramer
03-05-2004, 04:12 AM
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sounds good for american ears http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Boandlgramer
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MandMs
03-05-2004, 04:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Boandlgramer:

sounds good for american ears

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And proven by post WW2 tests of a factory fresh 262 vs the lower powered XP-80.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


And for Ludi, this a/c crashed because of engine failure.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



I eat the red ones last.

WWMaxGunz
03-05-2004, 04:26 AM
I'm not so sure it holds a complete edge. The engine is very touchy for one and yep acceleration is low. Catch one bled down in a decent German prop plane and he's gonna be meat.

In short looking at I found the 162 to be a very sweet flying plane. The guns aren't much and I'm sure it's quite vulnerable but it accelerates well to get speed up quick and it handles speed well. It also turns very fast at what for prop planes is decently high speed. In fact, in the 500-600 range the little bird about turns on a dime... that's about a 1 cm diameter coin but the expression means turns on very short radius. I was also able to adjust power faster than the P-80 without having the engine quit on me.

Jets. I didn't spend time on the 262 and now I need to learn so much about rpms matching speed. They are very hard for me to wind down for landing approach without the engines catching fire. It takes a very smooth throttle and my cheap stick throttle likes to spike. :-(

262's and 229's have the real firepower! One good sweep and even big targets are bits of toast!


Neal

Magister__Ludi
03-05-2004, 04:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:

Me-262 and He-162 has different engines types. So behavior is different.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Thanks Oleg for this detail http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
BMW 003 had indeed much easier start up.

It will be very nice to some of the fires replaced with flameouts for Jumos, normally if the throttle was advanced too fast at start-up you would get a flame out, for a fire had to advance the throttle very fast, to flood the chambers with fuel - that happened very rarely, because Germans were very experienced with fuel injection at that time, compared to British or Americans (Germans used fuel injection on all major engines, the Allies did not).

[This message was edited by Magister__Ludi on Fri March 05 2004 at 03:53 AM.]

Franzen
03-05-2004, 10:55 AM
I love shooting down the YP80 with the K4. Give me goosebumps. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Fritz

JG26Red
03-05-2004, 12:31 PM
when i was able to play online last night i was giving a P80 driver all types of fits with the HE-162... lol, that little bugger is super fast and turns and dives and climbs and so on... lol.. but i dont fly jets that much, i havent even flown the p38-p63 or p80 yet..

3.JG51_Stecher
03-05-2004, 09:09 PM
I don't mean to hijack this off of the YP-80 or anything, but I just want to give some specifics in regards to Buzzsaw's 162 question.
As most know, the safe zone for throttle movement with a Jumo 004 is over 6000 rpm, which at sea level is 45% power setting.
The Salamander's BMW 003 engine has the same problem of catching on fire as the Jumos, and its safe zone is also over 6000 rpm. The difference is that 6000 rpm, at sea level, is reached on 35% power setting. So while the same danger exists, you have 10% more to play with.

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