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Snyde-Dastardly
02-05-2004, 03:38 PM
Ive been watching the Il2 movies, and in one of them theres a GIANT mushroom cloud. What is that?? A mod? If so Id like to have it just for goofin off. Does anyone else know what Im talking about? Or am I a complete Moron http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

Snyde-Dastardly
02-05-2004, 03:38 PM
Ive been watching the Il2 movies, and in one of them theres a GIANT mushroom cloud. What is that?? A mod? If so Id like to have it just for goofin off. Does anyone else know what Im talking about? Or am I a complete Moron http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

Chuck_Older
02-05-2004, 03:39 PM
I'd rather have Atom Tan in FB, myself http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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JG7_Rall
02-05-2004, 03:42 PM
i think it's that FAB 5000 or whatever it's called, there aren't many, (or any, im not sure) mods for FB

Vladimir_No2
02-05-2004, 03:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snyde-Dastardly:
Ive been watching the Il2 movies, and in one of them theres a GIANT mushroom cloud. What is that?? A mod? If so Id like to have it just for goofin off. Does anyone else know what Im talking about? Or am I a complete Moron http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The FAB 5000 bomb. It is carried by the Pe-8.

http://www.doyle.com.au/images/scharnhorst2.JPG
"Engage the enemy more closely" -Rear Admiral Cradock

Snyde-Dastardly
02-05-2004, 03:57 PM
Thanks guys,Ill check it out.
Also How do ya get the pics under your name and post?? Again with the moron!!

VF-17_WOODMAN
02-05-2004, 03:59 PM
http://www.skyknights.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/mini_nuke.jpg
something like this(sorry about the pic size)

http://www.skyknights.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/CAFlast.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/retro/confeds/CAF

Snyde-Dastardly
02-05-2004, 04:01 PM
Im not sure,
This was a no bull mushroom cloud

Friendly_flyer
02-05-2004, 04:10 PM
You are not the first to mistake the 1/2-tonner for an A-bomb, I did it my self the first time i saw one. A real A-bomb is a lot bigger, though. The blast force of A-bombs is measured in mega-tons (1000 (metric) tonns) TNT. Little boy had a blast force equivalent to 20.000 tonns of trotyl, about 25 Megatonn TNT.

You can do the mental calculus on the effect yourself...

Fly friendly!

Petter Bøckman
Norway

Chuck_Older
02-05-2004, 04:10 PM
on a serious note-

Was it the shock wave around the debris cloud that made it look like a mushroom cloud?

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Lunix
02-05-2004, 04:13 PM
It is the FAB-5000Kg bomb carried by the PE-8. The screenshot displayed is an explosion of this bomb in the early stages before the mushroom shape is formed.

http://members.shaw.ca/corn/il2sig2.jpg

Snyde-Dastardly
02-05-2004, 04:21 PM
I know it wasent the shock wave and it rolled up in the air like a doughnut. Ill see if I can get a pic of it. Any way it was big. And Ive never used the 5000lb fab yet

Snyde-Dastardly
02-05-2004, 04:45 PM
Ok thats it!!
The old 5000 pounder. Its just plain mean http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif I love it. Im stumped to the fact that I never used it when I biuld missions and such. Thanks for all your help guys(and not makeing to much fun of me)

JR_Greenhorn
02-05-2004, 05:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snyde-Dastardly:
Ok thats it!!
The old 5000 pounder.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually, that is not it, because its 5000 kilograms! You see, this was covered in depth a few days ago. See: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=214107081

Lawn_Dart
02-05-2004, 09:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
You are not the first to mistake the 1/2-tonner for an A-bomb, I did it my self the first time i saw one. A real A-bomb is a lot bigger, though. The blast force of A-bombs is measured in mega-tons (1000 (metric) tonns) TNT. Little boy had a blast force equivalent to 20.000 tonns of trotyl, about 25 Megatonn TNT.

You can do the mental calculus on the effect yourself...

_Fly friendly!_

_Petter Bøckman
Norway_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Although your point is well taken, Fly_Friendly, concerning people mistaking the "A-bomb" in this game, your math is waaaaaay off concerning the measurement of strength of atomic weaponry.

With all respect:

The blast force of A-bombs is measured in tons of TNT, only those larger than 1 million tons of TNT (equivalent force, not acutal weight) are worthy of the title "megaton". Most modern nukes are tactical (i.e. very small), and fall far below the megaton threshold.

A Mega-ton is NOT 1000 metric tons of TNT, it is one MILLION tons of TNT.

Mega = Million (think megabytes, megahertz, etc)
Kilo = Thousand (think kilobytes, kilograms, kilohertz, etc.)

"Little Boy", one of two atomic bombs used against Japan to end the Second World War, was rated at 20 kilotons (20,000 tons) of TNT. At the time, it was the largest single explosive device ever set off...but years would pass before the first Megaton (million+ ton) nuclear device would be tested (sadly at the expense of the Bikini islanders homeland). That device was a Hydrogen bomb called Bravo (I could be wrong on the name, but it was a Hydrogen-Fusion bomb instead of the Uranium-Fission bombs used on Japan). At the time, many leading scientists predicted that any bomb to surpass the Megaton (1 million tons of TNT) threshold might catch the atmosphere on fire. Thankfully, they were wrong.

Art-J
02-06-2004, 03:09 AM
The first hydrogen device was called "Mike". It went off on 31st Oct 1952, during series of tests known as "Operation Ivy". Estimated yield was about 10 Mtons. Marshall Islands were chosen for the test range. For more info take a look here:
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Ivy.html

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/Haribo-Zeke_small_3_txt.jpg

Friendly_flyer
02-06-2004, 04:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lawn_Dart:
your math is waaaaaay off<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dang! I knew I should have paied attention in math class. Sorry guys, my fault, I always get my megas and kilos mixed up.

As for how they compare: The Little Boy blast at 20 kilotons TNT should be around 40 times the force of a FAB 500. I think Fat Boy, detonated over Nagasaki, was even a tad bigger. According to the reports, no-one survived the blast and heat within a 1 kilometre (2/3rd of a mile) radius from the blast site in Hiroshima. Of course, the radiation killed a lot more outside that radius later on. Granted, the FAB 500 is a mean mother, but the A-bomb is in a different league all together.

The halftonner is strong enough to make some very A-like effects though. The "doughnut" described by Snyde Dastardly is a blast wave. If you make your self a quick mission and bomb a city with it, you can se all the houses hit by the doughnut turn into ruins. You'll get the same effect from an A-bomb. The firestorm that took out most of Hiroshima came from such a wave. The houses, built by laquered bamboo, rice-paper and wood added to the effect. The mushroom is made when air and debris, superheated by the blast, rises. You'll se the same effect even with fairly small petrol bombs.

I'm quite happy we don't have A-boms in FB...

Fly friendly!

Petter Bøckman
Norway

Snyde-Dastardly
02-06-2004, 06:34 AM
Wow,
Thanks for all the input guys. Ill have to remember this next time I need a question answered in thermodynamics.

OberstWileyII
02-06-2004, 12:47 PM
...not really a discussion of "thermodynamics", it's more a discussion of the effects of nuclear and "thermonuclear" weapons.

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Lone_Wulffe_CR
02-06-2004, 03:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snyde-Dastardly:
I know it wasent the shock wave and it rolled up in the air like a doughnut. Ill see if I can get a pic of it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Heres your pix. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What does this translate too, anyone know?
http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/LWulffe_CR/grab0025.gif

Had to ensure that the target was destroyed.. a double hit. (ok so it was AI dropping them to avoid blasting themselves when I shot em... but if you look close you can see they got it anyhow.
http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v22/LWulffe_CR/grab0019.gif

Saluté from CR A Proud Member of The Lone Wulffe Squadron (http://www.lonewulffe.com)

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IcarusXP
02-06-2004, 03:34 PM
What movie?

"The only reason we liberated France was to get to Germany"
-Rush Limbaugh
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Vladimir_No2
02-06-2004, 03:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Art-J:
The first hydrogen device was called "Mike". It went off on 31st Oct 1952, during series of tests known as "Operation Ivy". Estimated yield was about 10 Mtons. Marshall Islands were chosen for the test range. For more info take a look here:
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Ivy.html

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/Haribo-Zeke_small_3_txt.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ah, Ivy Mike. The best pictures came from that test.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lawn_Dart
but years would pass before the first Megaton (million+ ton) nuclear device would be tested (sadly at the expense of the Bikini islanders homeland). That device was a Hydrogen bomb called Bravo (I could be wrong on the name, but it was a Hydrogen-Fusion bomb instead of the Uranium-Fission bombs used on Japan).
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Castle Bravo was the largest test conducted by the united states, it had a 15 megaton yield.

http://www.doyle.com.au/images/scharnhorst2.JPG
"Engage the enemy more closely" -Rear Admiral Cradock

Speco
02-06-2004, 03:55 PM
I love useing the FAB-5000 on-line thers nothing like nuking the enemy home base and wipeing out planes taxing or on take off!

Although, I must addmit that gets them pissed off so most of the time they catch up on you on your way back and send you to hell, but it's worth it!

Snyde-Dastardly
02-06-2004, 07:23 PM
Now if you could only ride that puppy down like Slim Pickens in Dr. Strange Love! YYYYEEEEHAAAAAWWW http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Thanks for the pic Lone Wulffe,Great one

From this day to the end of the world, we in it shall be remembered, we band of brothers

Snyde-Dastardly
02-06-2004, 07:51 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IcarusXP:
What movie?

Well its called Deep Past. Its mostly sped up dog fights with techno

From this day to the end of the world, we in it shall be remembered, we band of brothers

IcarusXP
02-06-2004, 10:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snyde-Dastardly:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IcarusXP:
What movie?

Well its called Deep Past. Its mostly sped up dog fights with techno

From this day to the end of the world, we in it shall be remembered, we band of brothers<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


how about this movie...

http://trackpad.home.comcast.net/TheMessenger256.zip

"The only reason we liberated France was to get to Berlin."
-Rush Limbaugh
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tagert
02-06-2004, 11:44 PM
Ta Dah

http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/TrinityMarker7.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/grantsenn/Trinity.jpg

TAGERT

Snyde-Dastardly
02-07-2004, 12:31 AM
I love the Messenger!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I laugh every time I see it! Thanks for the reminder IcarusXP!!
On another note,,,I dont think I would get that close to take a pic of that monument. I dont like glowing at night. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
By the way "Tagert" from Blazeing Saddles??

From this day to the end of the world, we in it shall be remembered, we band of brothers

Snyde-Dastardly
02-08-2004, 12:54 AM
Nukes are no fun

From this day to the end of the world, we in it shall be remembered, we band of brothers http://img21photobucket.jpg