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Chariflame
07-17-2012, 03:17 PM
Remember last E3, for Revelations, some hex code was used in some trailers? It translated to "Three lives toiled. Three lives lost. Three messages delivered: the greeting, the warning, the revelation."
They also put this hexidecimal code on the spine of the white and black encyclopedias.

At E3 this year, a promotional version of the encyclopedia was given to press, which was identical other than a different cover and a few bonus ACIII pages at the beginning. I managed to get a copy, and noticed the hex code on the spine was entirely different to the previous editions (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7b6g3EGLf1qjsbzro1_1280.jpg).

57652073617720746865204E657068696C696D207468657265
We saw the Nephilim there

5765207365656D6564206C696B65206772617373686F707065 727320696E206F7572206F776E2065796573
We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes

416E64207765206C6F6F6B6564207468652073616D6520746F 207468656D
And we looked the same to them



It would make sense for them to change a very Revelations oriented quote to something else for an ACIII edition of the encyclopedia, but it's also very curious. This is a quote from the bible (http://bible.cc/numbers/13-33.htm), and the Nephilim were seen as the children of god. Some obvious connotations to TWCB there.

This isn't the most startling reveal of information but I just thought it was very interesting and worth sharing!

LightRey
07-17-2012, 03:28 PM
Aren't the Nephilim supposed to be hybrids between angels and humans?

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 03:33 PM
WOW!! Very interesting.

Thanks a lot ! :D

TheHumanTowel
07-17-2012, 03:34 PM
Interesting find. This is just coming from searching on wikipedia but it says there is an interpretation that the Nephilim are descendants of Seth, the brother of Cain and Abel, and that they rebelled against God and "mingled" (if you know what I mean) with the daughters of Cain. Don't really know what to make of that but it's interesting given the links between Cain and the Templars.

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 03:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcr9pDWNnXI

At 4:50.

What if Minerva doesn't talk about humans and/or TWCB here? What if she talks about a different species?
That would be a nice twist.

LightRey
07-17-2012, 03:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcr9pDWNnXI

At 4:50.

What if Minerva doesn't talk about humans and/or TWCB here? What if she talks about a different species?
That would be a nice twist.
I don't think so. What would another species have to do with the war?

EscoBlades
07-17-2012, 03:42 PM
Great stuff Chari, very interesting indeed ;)

Turul.
07-17-2012, 04:10 PM
great find and finally an interesting topic worth discussing on the forums!

http://www.gotquestions.org/Nephilim.html or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anakites

for everyone who doesn't know what a nephilim is (i didn't even know)

from wikipedia: The Nephilim ( /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/) were the offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" according to Genesis 6:4; and gigantic men who inhabited Canaan according to Numbers 13:33. A similar biblical Hebrew word with different vowel-sounds is used in Ezekiel 32:27 to refer to dead Philistine warriors.

from gotquestions.org: The Nephilim (“fallen ones, giants”) were the offspring of sexual relationships between the sons of God and daughters of men in Genesis 6:1-4 . There is much debate as to the identity of the “sons of God.” It is our contention that the “sons of God” were fallen angels (demons) who mated with human females and/or possessed human males and then mated with human females. These unions resulted in offspring, the Nephilim, that were “heroes of old, men of renown” (Genesis 6:4

here is some different interpretations of the verse http://bible.cc/numbers/13-33.htm

infamous_ezio
07-17-2012, 04:14 PM
Very interesting fine.

I guess the Nephilim is a reference to the assassin's.. anyone else agree?

LightRey
07-17-2012, 04:15 PM
great find and finally an interesting topic worth discussing on the forums!

http://www.gotquestions.org/Nephilim.html or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anakites

for everyone who doesn't know what a nephilim is (i didn't even know)

from wikipedia: The Nephilim ( /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/) were the offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" according to Genesis 6:4; and gigantic men who inhabited Canaan according to Numbers 13:33. A similar biblical Hebrew word with different vowel-sounds is used in Ezekiel 32:27 to refer to dead Philistine warriors.

from gotquestions.org: The Nephilim (“fallen ones, giants”) were the offspring of sexual relationships between the sons of God and daughters of men in Genesis 6:1-4 . There is much debate as to the identity of the “sons of God.” It is our contention that the “sons of God” were fallen angels (demons) who mated with human females and/or possessed human males and then mated with human females. These unions resulted in offspring, the Nephilim, that were “heroes of old, men of renown” (Genesis 6:4

here is some different interpretations of the verse http://bible.cc/numbers/13-33.htm
Yeah pretty much. Seems like in the context of AC they're most likely referring to TWCB/human hybrids.

It should also be worth noting that supposedly god created the flood to get rid of the Nephilim.

TheHumanTowel
07-17-2012, 04:16 PM
great find and finally an interesting topic worth discussing on the forums!

http://www.gotquestions.org/Nephilim.html

for everyone who doesn't know what a nephilim is (i didn't even know)

The Nephilim (“fallen ones, giants”) were the offspring of sexual relationships between the sons of God and daughters of men in Genesis 6:1-4 . There is much debate as to the identity of the “sons of God.” It is our contention that the “sons of God” were fallen angels (demons) who mated with human females and/or possessed human males and then mated with human females. These unions resulted in offspring, the Nephilim, that were “heroes of old, men of renown” (Genesis 6:4

here is some different interpretations of the verse http://bible.cc/numbers/13-33.htm
Hmm so could the Nephilim be referring to the offspring the hybrids of TWCB and humans like Adam and Eve? If so then from whose perspective is the verse? Regular humans?

infamous_ezio
07-17-2012, 04:20 PM
Very interesting fine.

I guess the Nephilim is a reference to the assassin's.. anyone else agree?

EDIT: The second line "We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes" is interesting.
An interpretation of grasshoper:

"Term that refers to one who is a novice, a greenhorn, a student/disciple, a subordinate, or just simply ignorant."

Maybe... their is a twist in the TWCB story line, maybe the assassin's (most likely lead by eve & adam) took control, and lead the war against TWCB. I think that is quite plausible, especially when you think back to AC2 when minerva says "We built you to survive", maybe a reference to the fact that TWCB thought they could control humans, but that didn't work out well for them... or maybe i'm just thinking about this to much.

I could definitely see this as the purpose of the glyphs/clusters in AC3, makes sense considering we only saw a glimpse how adam and eve first got the apple in the truth of AC2.

Turul.
07-17-2012, 04:21 PM
Hmm so could the Nephilim be referring to the offspring the hybrids of TWCB and humans like Adam and Eve? If so then from whose perspective is the verse? Regular humans?

it would seem that way

RatonhnhakeFan
07-17-2012, 04:51 PM
What do the numbers/letters after each S17.ANIMA mean? For example - S17.ANIMA.16030002.V29VZFNTB2TL?

Turul.
07-17-2012, 04:56 PM
What do the numbers/letters after each S17.ANIMA mean? For example - S17.ANIMA.16030002.V29VZFNTB2TL?

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/508780-13-sequences-as-Desmond-in-Revelations-Forums

not sure hopefully this helps

GLHS
07-17-2012, 04:59 PM
Maybe the file code or identification number for the location of the file within the animus archives? The new animus will no doubt have new features, so maybe it will have a new way of coding data also? Idk, this whole thing is extremely interesting. If the Nephilim are significant in the rest of the story, things are gonna get really interesting.

EDIT: Wow, way to bring up an old thread. But that reminded me. If somebody can decode it, it's most likely the same type of thing and it's a file/memory name. Makes me curious to know now lol.

ShaneO7K
07-17-2012, 05:08 PM
What do the numbers/letters after each S17.ANIMA mean? For example - S17.ANIMA.16030002.V29VZFNTB2TL?

WoodSmoke

RatonhnhakeFan
07-17-2012, 05:10 PM
Just saw that these are old codes that were already deciphered during Revelations' marketing campaign

Boooo no more new juicy secrets revealed

GLHS
07-17-2012, 05:13 PM
Are you sure? They all looked different to me. Most of them started with 160 and none of them did on the AC:R edition.

ShaneO7K
07-17-2012, 05:16 PM
Are you sure? They all looked different to me. Most of them started with 160 and none of them did on the AC:R edition.

Yeah, it was one of the codes that was in one of the ACR trailers. They pretty much gave hints as to what Desmonds memories would be about. They were decoded in a thread last year.

twenty_glyphs
07-17-2012, 05:47 PM
Great find, thanks for sharing! The message is Numbers 13:33 from the Old Testament, where The Twelve Spies report that they have seen fearsome giants in Canaan:

32. And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, "The land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there are of great size.
33. We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."

The grasshoppers reference is because the Nephilim are supposed to be like giants. It could just be that the Nephilim were so technologically advanced that humans felt smaller in comparison.

Chariflame
07-18-2012, 12:43 AM
I double checked, and everything after those initial messages are all the same ie. the Desmond sequence hints. That's what first alerted me to any changes, actually. They're in a different order, as the book is shorter so they're re-ordered, as well as what it seems the dates go from later to earlier, opposite to the original version. (The only S16.ANIMA. line isn't there, which is what I was originally looking for. :( Are you doing this to spite me, UbiWorkshop?)

It's very interesting to discuss the Nephilim and their symbolism, but I don't think there's any large plot clue regarding TWCB hidden in there. Just a clever and relevant reference.

RatonhnhakeFan
07-18-2012, 01:30 AM
I double checked, and everything after those initial messages are all the sameThx for checking that :D DOes the Encyclopedia actually contain ANY info on AC3 inside? Or just few concept arts? Like, for example, is there anything about Ratonhnhaké:ton in there? His birth year (1755)? Or anything about the Grand Temple?

GLHS
07-18-2012, 08:58 AM
I double checked, and everything after those initial messages are all the same ie. the Desmond sequence hints. That's what first alerted me to any changes, actually. They're in a different order, as the book is shorter so they're re-ordered, as well as what it seems the dates go from later to earlier, opposite to the original version. (The only S16.ANIMA. line isn't there, which is what I was originally looking for. :( Are you doing this to spite me, UbiWorkshop?)

It's very interesting to discuss the Nephilim and their symbolism, but I don't think there's any large plot clue regarding TWCB hidden in there. Just a clever and relevant reference.

D@mmit. I was hoping for some good clues for the Desmond side of things in AC3. Oh well.

YRTEP
07-18-2012, 10:55 AM
Remember last E3, for Revelations, some hex code was used in some trailers? It translated to "Three lives toiled. Three lives lost. Three messages delivered: the greeting, the warning, the revelation."
They also put this hexidecimal code on the spine of the white and black encyclopedias.

At E3 this year, a promotional version of the encyclopedia was given to press, which was identical other than a different cover and a few bonus ACIII pages at the beginning. I managed to get a copy, and noticed the hex code on the spine was entirely different to the previous editions (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7b6g3EGLf1qjsbzro1_1280.jpg).

57652073617720746865204E657068696C696D207468657265
We saw the Nephilim there

5765207365656D6564206C696B65206772617373686F707065 727320696E206F7572206F776E2065796573
We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes

416E64207765206C6F6F6B6564207468652073616D6520746F 207468656D
And we looked the same to them



It would make sense for them to change a very Revelations oriented quote to something else for an ACIII edition of the encyclopedia, but it's also very curious. This is a quote from the bible (http://bible.cc/numbers/13-33.htm), and the Nephilim were seen as the children of god. Some obvious connotations to TWCB there.

This isn't the most startling reveal of information but I just thought it was very interesting and worth sharing!


Thank you vey much. :) Really interesting!

btw: How did you get a copy of the encyclopedia? ;)

Tzeentch_859
07-18-2012, 12:03 PM
What if the great flood of Noah was the Solar Flare or perhaps a serious aftermath of that event? There are no records
in our knowledge that states when the Solar flare occurred. Could explain why there were so few 'Nephilim', TWCB and humans around afterwards.

SixKeys
07-18-2012, 12:31 PM
What if the great flood of Noah was the Solar Flare or perhaps a serious aftermath of that event? There are no records
in our knowledge that states when the Solar flare occurred. Could explain why there were so few 'Nephilim', TWCB and humans around afterwards.

There are no historical records of a catastrophe on the scale of Noah's flood actually happening. There were thriving civilizations living all around the globe around the time the flood supposedly wiped out everyone except for a few chosen people. I don't think the game is going to treat Noah's flood as an actual plot point as it makes no sense.

SteelCity999
07-18-2012, 03:19 PM
Great info!

I just want to add that we sometimes forget that there are multiple versions of human beings throughout history. Present day humans have been theorized to have somehow obtained a genetic mutation, like 20,000 years ago, that allowed us to become dominant.

The Nephilim are probably the ones reference in the ancient Sumarian texts as well.

Felix-Vivo
07-18-2012, 04:10 PM
Mostly irrelevant, but in one of Aesop's Fables, the grasshopper was the one who was unprepared for the winter and perished (just as civilization on earth was unprepared for the solar flare).

Chariflame
07-19-2012, 07:16 PM
Thx for checking that :D Does the Encyclopedia actually contain ANY info on AC3 inside? Or just few concept arts? Like, for example, is there anything about Ratonhnhaké:ton in there? His birth year (1755)? Or anything about the Grand Temple?

Nope. Just some concept art and an introduction from Alex Hutchinson. You can find all that here (http://glyphsandrifts.tumblr.com/post/27408710750/a-special-edition-of-the-assassins-creed). If there was anything more, trust me, I would of said. :P The rest of the book only covers up to Revelations.


btw: How did you get a copy of the encyclopedia? http://static5.cdn.ubi.com/u/ubiforums/20120411.419/images/smilies/wink.png

eBay. I managed to get mine for a decent price, the ones going up for auction skyrocketed to the $200 mark after I won mine but seem to have decreased again.