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LightRey
07-17-2012, 10:15 AM
I remember there used to be a thread about this a long time ago and I thought it was interesting. Basically, it's about posting suggestions of people throughout history you think may have been Templars, Assassins or unaffiliated PoE holders (such as Savonarola) in the AC universe, that have not (yet) been featured in the series. What events do you think might've been influenced by people wielding PoE's and why?

TheHumanTowel
07-17-2012, 01:59 PM
Joesph Mobutu becoming dictator of the Democratic Republic of Congo in the 60's. In 1960 the Congo was granted it's independence from Belgium who had been oppressing the Congolese citizens and exploiting their natural resources for decades. King Leopold of Belgium had complete personal control over the Congo back in the day and used it increase his personal wealth. I'd say he was a Templar probably and the Templars had interests in keeping the Congo under colonial control. Anyway back in the 60's I think the Assassins had something to do with Congo's independence although there was no real bloodshed so it would involve influencing political events.

After independence the Congo went to hell, the army mutinied, a power struggle broke out, the most wealthy province called Katanga declared itself independent. Katanga declaring itself independent was supported by the Belgians and they sent mercenaries to defend the province. I think this would be the Templars trying to keep control of the most wealthy part of the country as the rest of the congo couldn't survive without it.

Because of the chaos in the country Mobutu, an army general, was backed by the CIA and overthrew the government but kept the same guy as President. I don't think Mobutu could have had a POE at this time or he would have just taken power himself. The U.N sent in troops to force the Belgians to remove their mercenaries from the country. This decision might have had Assassin influence. Then in 1961 the U.N secretary-general died in a plane crash. His death has always been subject to conspiracy theories so I'd say the Templars had a hand in it.

Then the previous president of the Congo Patrice Lumumba was executed by Katangan forces. The Belgian government had some sort of influence on this execution so I think it's safe to say this was a Templar sanctioned killing. Katanga rejoined the Congo in 1963 after a U.N invasion. Possible Assassin doing? Then in 1965 Mobutu, whose gotten a POE sometime between then, staged a coup and set himself up as dictator. I don't think Mobutu is an Assassin or a Templar as he only used his position for personal gain and the Belgian government had no control anymore in Katanga.

Well there you go, probably my longest post ever that one.

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 02:08 PM
Assassin side: Peter Joseph (zeitgeist movement), Jacque Fresco (The venus project), Carl Sagan, to name a few.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wF4sJ4krLI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDJ18m6KUW4

POP1Fan
07-17-2012, 02:16 PM
Stephen Hawking.
Can we put known holders like Washington, or just share our opinion?

LightRey
07-17-2012, 02:20 PM
Joesph Mobutu becoming dictator of the Democratic Republic of Congo in the 60's. In 1960 the Congo was granted it's independence from Belgium who had been oppressing the Congolese citizens and exploiting their natural resources for decades. King Leopold of Belgium had complete personal control over the Congo back in the day and used it increase his personal wealth. I'd say he was a Templar probably and the Templars had interests in keeping the Congo under colonial control. Anyway back in the 60's I think the Assassins had something to do with Congo's independence although there was no real bloodshed so it would involve influencing political events.

After independence the Congo went to hell, the army mutinied, a power struggle broke out, the most wealthy province called Katanga declared itself independent. Katanga declaring itself independent was supported by the Belgians and they sent mercenaries to defend the province. I think this would be the Templars trying to keep control of the most wealthy part of the country as the rest of the congo couldn't survive without it.

Because of the chaos in the country Mobutu, an army general, was backed by the CIA and overthrew the government but kept the same guy as President. I don't think Mobutu could have had a POE at this time or he would have just taken power himself. The U.N sent in troops to force the Belgians to remove their mercenaries from the country. This decision might have had Assassin influence. Then in 1961 the U.N secretary-general died in a plane crash. His death has always been subject to conspiracy theories so I'd say the Templars had a hand in it.

Then the previous president of the Congo Patrice Lumumba was executed by Katangan forces. The Belgian government had some sort of influence on this execution so I think it's safe to say this was a Templar sanctioned killing. Katanga rejoined the Congo in 1963 after a U.N invasion. Possible Assassin doing? Then in 1965 Mobutu, whose gotten a POE sometime between then, staged a coup and set himself up as dictator. I don't think Mobutu is an Assassin or a Templar as he only used his position for personal gain and the Belgian government had no control anymore in Katanga.

Well there you go, probably my longest post ever that one.
Oh, that's interesting. Would be interesting to see a (side-)game or something featuring this.

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 02:28 PM
Templars:


Bilderberg MeetingsChantilly, Virginia, USA, 31 May-3 June 2012Final (http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-2012-the-official-list-of-participants/#) List of ParticipantsChairman


FRA
Castries, Henri de
Chairman and CEO, AXA Group







DEU
Ackermann, Josef
Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank AG


GBR
Agius, Marcus
Chairman, Barclays plc


USA
Ajami, Fouad
Senior Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University


USA
Alexander, Keith B.
Commander, US Cyber Command; Director, National Security Agency


INT
Almunia, Joaquín
Vice-President – Commissioner for Competition, European Commission


USA
Altman, Roger C.
Chairman, Evercore Partners


PRT
Amado, Luís
Chairman, Banco Internacional do Funchal (BANIF)


NOR
Andresen, Johan H.
Owner and CEO, FERD


FIN
Apunen, Matti
Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA


TUR
Babacan, Ali
Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs


PRT
Balsemão, Francisco Pinto
President and CEO, Impresa; Former Prime Minister


FRA
Baverez, Nicolas
Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP


FRA
Béchu, Christophe
Senator, and Chairman, General Council of Maine-et-Loire


BEL
Belgium, H.R.H. Prince Philippe of


TUR
Berberoğlu, Enis
Editor-in-Chief, Hürriyet Newspaper


ITA
Bernabè, Franco
Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia


GBR
Boles, Nick
Member of Parliament


SWE
Bonnier, Jonas
President and CEO, Bonnier AB


NOR
Brandtzæg, Svein Richard
President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA


AUT
Bronner, Oscar
Publisher, Der Standard Medienwelt


SWE
Carlsson, Gunilla
Minister for International Development Cooperation


CAN
Carney, Mark J.
Governor, Bank of Canada


ESP
Cebrián, Juan Luis
CEO, PRISA; Chairman, El País


AUT
Cernko, Willibald
CEO, UniCredit Bank Austria AG


FRA
Chalendar, Pierre André de
Chairman and CEO, Saint-Gobain


DNK
Christiansen, Jeppe
CEO, Maj Invest


RUS
Chubais, Anatoly B.
CEO, OJSC RUSNANO


CAN
Clark, W. Edmund
Group President and CEO, TD Bank Group


GBR
Clarke, Kenneth
Member of Parliament, Lord Chancellor and Secretary of Justice


USA
Collins, Timothy C.
CEO and Senior Managing Director, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC


ITA
Conti, Fulvio
CEO and General Manager (http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-2012-the-official-list-of-participants/#), Enel S.p.A.


USA
Daniels, Jr., Mitchell E.
Governor of Indiana


USA
DeMuth, Christopher
Distinguished Fellow, Hudson Institute


USA
Donilon, Thomas E.
National Security Advisor, The White House


GBR
Dudley, Robert
Group Chief Executive, BP plc


ITA
Elkann, John
Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.


DEU
Enders, Thomas
CEO, Airbus


USA
Evans, J. Michael
Vice Chairman, Global Head of Growth Markets, Goldman Sachs & Co.


AUT
Faymann, Werner
Federal Chancellor


DNK
Federspiel, Ulrik
Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S


USA
Ferguson, Niall
Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History, Harvard University


GBR
Flint, Douglas J.
Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc


CHN
Fu, Ying
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs


IRL
Gallagher, Paul
Former Attorney General; Senior Counsel


USA
Gephardt, Richard A.
President and CEO, Gephardt Group


GRC
Giannitsis, Anastasios
Former Minister of Interior; Professor of Development and International Economics, University of Athens


USA
Goolsbee, Austan D.
Professor of Economics, University of Chicago Booth School of Business


USA
Graham, Donald E.
Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company


ITA
Gruber, Lilli
Journalist – Anchorwoman, La 7 TV


INT
Gucht, Karel de
Commissioner for Trade, European Commission


NLD
Halberstadt, Victor
Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings


USA
Harris, Britt
CIO, Teacher Retirement System of Texas


USA
Hoffman, Reid
Co-founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn


CHN
Huang, Yiping
Professor of Economics, China Center for Economic Research, Peking University


USA
Huntsman, Jr., Jon M.
Chairman, Huntsman Cancer Foundation


DEU
Ischinger, Wolfgang
Chairman, Munich Security Conference; Global Head Government Relations, Allianz SE


RUS
Ivanov, Igor S.
Associate member, Russian Academy of Science; President, Russian International Affairs Council


FRA
Izraelewicz, Erik
CEO, Le Monde


USA
Jacobs, Kenneth M.
Chairman and CEO, Lazard


USA
Johnson, James A.
Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC


USA
Jordan, Jr., Vernon E.
Senior Managing Director, Lazard


USA
Karp, Alexander
CEO, Palantir Technologies


USA
Karsner, Alexander
Executive Chairman, Manifest Energy, Inc


FRA
Karvar, Anousheh
Inspector, Inter-ministerial Audit and Evaluation Office for Social, Health, Employment and Labor Policies


RUS
Kasparov, Garry
Chairman, United Civil Front (of Russia)


GBR
Kerr, John
Independent Member, House of Lords


USA
Kerry, John
Senator for Massachusetts


TUR
Keyman, E. Fuat
Director, Istanbul Policy Center and Professor of International Relations, Sabanci University


USA
Kissinger, Henry A.
Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.


USA
Kleinfeld, Klaus
Chairman and CEO, Alcoa


TUR
Koç, Mustafa
Chairman, Koç Holding A.Ş.


DEU
Koch, Roland
CEO, Bilfinger Berger SE


INT
Kodmani, Bassma
Member of the Executive Bureau and Head of Foreign Affairs, Syrian National Council


USA
Kravis, Henry R.
Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.


USA
Kravis, Marie-Josée
Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute


INT
Kroes, Neelie
Vice President, European Commission; Commissioner for Digital Agenda


USA
Krupp, Fred
President, Environmental Defense Fund


INT
Lamy, Pascal
Director-General, World Trade Organization


ITA
Letta, Enrico
Deputy Leader, Democratic Party (PD)


ISR
Levite, Ariel E.
Nonresident Senior Associate, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace


USA
Li, Cheng
Director of Research and Senior Fellow, John L. Thornton China Center, Brookings Institution


USA
Lipsky, John
Distinguished Visiting Scholar, Johns Hopkins University


USA
Liveris, Andrew N.
President, Chairman and CEO, The Dow Chemical Company


DEU
Löscher, Peter
President and CEO, Siemens AG


USA
Lynn, William J.
Chairman and CEO, DRS Technologies, Inc.


GBR
Mandelson, Peter
Member, House of Lords; Chairman, Global Counsel


USA
Mathews, Jessica T.
President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace


DEN
Mchangama, Jacob
Director of Legal Affairs, Center for Political Studies (CEPOS)


CAN
McKenna, Frank
Deputy Chair, TD Bank Group


USA
Mehlman, Kenneth B.
Partner, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.


GBR
Micklethwait, John
Editor-in-Chief, The Economist


FRA
Montbrial, Thierry de
President, French Institute for International Relations


PRT
Moreira da Silva, Jorge
First Vice-President, Partido Social Democrata (PSD)


USA
Mundie, Craig J.
Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation


DEU
Nass, Matthias
Chief International Correspondent, Die Zeit


NLD
Netherlands, H.M. the Queen of the


ESP
Nin Génova, Juan María
Deputy Chairman and CEO, Caixabank


IRL
Noonan, Michael
Minister for Finance


USA
Noonan, Peggy
Author, Columnist, The Wall Street Journal


FIN
Ollila, Jorma
Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc


USA
Orszag, Peter R.
Vice Chairman, Citigroup


GRC
Papalexopoulos, Dimitri
Managing Director, Titan Cement Co.


NLD
Pechtold, Alexander
Parliamentary Leader, Democrats ’66 (D66)


USA
Perle, Richard N.
Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute


NLD
Polman, Paul
CEO, Unilever PLC


CAN
Prichard, J. Robert S.
Chair, Torys LLP


ISR
Rabinovich, Itamar
Global Distinguished Professor, New York University


GBR
Rachman, Gideon
Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator, The Financial Times


USA
Rattner, Steven
Chairman, Willett Advisors LLC


CAN
Redford, Alison M.
Premier of Alberta


CAN
Reisman, Heather M.
CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.


DEU
Reitzle, Wolfgang
CEO & President, Linde AG


USA
Rogoff, Kenneth S.
Professor of Economics, Harvard University


USA
Rose, Charlie
Executive Editor and Anchor, Charlie Rose


USA
Ross, Dennis B.
Counselor, Washington Institute for Near East Policy


POL
Rostowski, Jacek
Minister of Finance


USA
Rubin, Robert E.
Co-Chair, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury


NLD
Rutte, Mark
Prime Minister


ESP
Sáenz de Santamaría Antón, Soraya
Vice President and Minister for the Presidency


NLD
Scheffer, Paul
Professor of European Studies, Tilburg University


USA
Schmidt, Eric E.
Executive Chairman, Google Inc.


AUT
Scholten, Rudolf
Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG


FRA
Senard, Jean-Dominique
CEO, Michelin Group


USA
Shambaugh, David
Director, China Policy Program, George Washington University


INT
Sheeran, Josette
Vice Chairman, World Economic Forum


FIN
Siilasmaa, Risto
Chairman of the Board of Directors, Nokia Corporation


USA
Speyer, Jerry I.
Chairman and Co-CEO, Tishman Speyer


CHE
Supino, Pietro
Chairman and Publisher, Tamedia AG


IRL
Sutherland, Peter D.
Chairman, Goldman Sachs International


USA
Thiel, Peter A.
President, Clarium Capital / Thiel Capital


TUR
Timuray, Serpil
CEO, Vodafone Turkey


DEU
Trittin, Jürgen
Parliamentary Leader, Alliance 90/The Greens


GRC
Tsoukalis, Loukas
President, Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy


FIN
Urpilainen, Jutta
Minister of Finance


CHE
Vasella, Daniel L.
Chairman, Novartis AG


INT
Vimont, Pierre
Executive Secretary General, European External Action Service


GBR
Voser, Peter
CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc


SWE
Wallenberg, Jacob
Chairman, Investor AB


USA
Warsh, Kevin
Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University


GBR
Wolf, Martin H.
Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times


USA
Wolfensohn, James D.
Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company


CAN
Wright, Nigel S.
Chief of Staff, Office of the Prime Minister


USA
Yergin, Daniel
Chairman, IHS Cambridge Energy Research Associates


INT
Zoellick, Robert B.
President, The World Bank Group








Rapporteurs



GBR
Bredow, Vendeline von
Business Correspondent, The Economist


GBR
Wooldridge, Adrian D.
Foreign Correspondent, The Economist

TheHumanTowel
07-17-2012, 02:31 PM
Oh, that's interesting. Would be interesting to see a (side-)game or something featuring this.
Yeah I think it would be a good setting but I don't know if there's much chance of it happening. It's still a pretty controversial issue and a lot of people who were involved in it or their parents were involved in it are still alive. I think it would be cool to have a story were the Assassins sort of fail. I mean they got the Templars out but they're only replaced by another dictator. There's a good story there plus lot's of cities for free running.

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 02:39 PM
Yeah I think it would be a good setting but I don't know if there's much chance of it happening. It's still a pretty controversial issue and a lot of people who were involved in it or their parents were involved in it are still alive. I think it would be cool to have a story were the Assassins sort of fail. I mean they got the Templars out but they're only replaced by another dictator. There's a good story there plus lot's of cities for free running.

Would definitely be nice :).

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 02:44 PM
Don't think he was specifically mentioned in AC

One of the head templars in modern-day:

http://manboobz.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/fed-chairman-us-federal-reserve-ben-bernanke-qe3.jpg


BEN BERNANKE, Chairman federal reserve

Lonesoldier2012
07-17-2012, 02:49 PM
Barack Obama. Because of Obamacare and showing our nuclear weapon plans to other countries.

Bastard.

LightRey
07-17-2012, 02:49 PM
Barack Obama. Because of Obamacare and showing our nuclear weapon plans to other countries.

Bastard.
Please keep your political standpoints to yourself. Also, I don't see why a Templar would do any of that.

Lonesoldier2012
07-17-2012, 02:53 PM
Please keep your political standpoints to yourself. Also, I don't see why a Templar would do any of that.

Templars were the first bankers. The tax would give the Templars more money. Instead of wellfare for the poor and those who need it it's given to Templars [serious theory for a game] He cancelled the space program so that he could use military tech at NASA to build the solar flare machine.

EDIT: Oh and of course the other countries he showed our weapons too would have been Templars. I think it could be a good plot point.

TheHumanTowel
07-17-2012, 02:53 PM
Barack Obama. Because of Obamacare and showing our nuclear weapon plans to other countries.

Bastard.
Aren't you 14? lol

Lonesoldier2012
07-17-2012, 02:54 PM
Aren't you 14? lol

Point? Also read my reply to Lightrey.

Captain Tomatoz
07-17-2012, 02:54 PM
Barack Obama. Because of Obamacare and showing our nuclear weapon plans to other countries.

Bastard.

Isn't obamacare just like the NHS over here in Britain?

Kim Jong Il would have probably had one as well as his son now

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 02:59 PM
More modern-day templars:

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/0428-goldman-sachs-gambling/7792399-1-eng-US/0428-goldman-sachs-gambling_full_600.jpg

LLOYD BLANKFEIN, Chairman and CEO of Goldman sachs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Henry_Paulson_official_Treasury_photo,_2006.jpg/220px-Henry_Paulson_official_Treasury_photo,_2006.jpg

HENRY PAULSON, Former treasury secretary.

LightRey
07-17-2012, 02:59 PM
Templars were the first bankers. The tax would give the Templars more money. Instead of wellfare for the poor and those who need it it's given to Templars [serious theory for a game] He cancelled the space program so that he could use military tech at NASA to build the solar flare machine.
First of all, he didn't cancel the space program, he made NASA an independent organization and the space shuttle program (which was never really a success) was canceled (Idk if he had any hand in that though). Second, ObamaCare is not a vast source of income and it would be hard for him to take the relevant tax money and use it for something else, especially since the government will be legally obligated to actually use the money for its intended purpose. All in all, I just don't see how this makes it in any way a Templar thing. In fact, your theory requires his plan to be opposite of what it actually appears to be, even to a critical observer. That doesn't make it impossible, but it does make it equally improbable as any other random political plan.

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 03:00 PM
Isn't obamacare just like the NHS over here in Britain?

Kim Jong Il would have probably had one as well as his son now

Good one.

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 03:02 PM
First of all, he didn't cancel the space program, he made NASA an independent organization and the space shuttle program (which was never really a success) was canceled (Idk if he had any hand in that though). Second, ObamaCare is not a vast source of income and it would be hard for him to take the relevant tax money and use it for something else, especially since the government will be legally obligated to actually use the money for its intended purpose. All in all, I just don't see how this makes it in any way a Templar thing. In fact, your theory requires his plan to be opposite of what it actually appears to be, even to a critical observer. That doesn't make it impossible, but it does make it equally improbable as any other random political plan.

Obama would be a templar puppet :o.

LightRey
07-17-2012, 03:03 PM
Good one.
Possibly, considering the mass manipulation of their people. However, if that were the case, why aren't the Templars going after that one instead of going through the trouble of analyzing Desmond's genetic memory?

Lonesoldier2012
07-17-2012, 03:06 PM
Obama would be a templar puppet :o.

Or that could be a good plot point. Not sure if Obama is the president in AC's universe though.

Captain Tomatoz
07-17-2012, 03:08 PM
Possibly, considering the mass manipulation of their people. However, if that were the case, why aren't the Templars going after that one instead of going through the trouble of analyzing Desmond's genetic memory?

Maybe its too hard to get into North Korea and it would be easier to go after others.

RatonhnhakeFan
07-17-2012, 03:11 PM
In future, I bet Ubisoft will include recently overthrown North African dictators as the Templars (and holders of POEs). Actually, there may be some references fo Arab Spring in AC3 already, it's very topical

TheHumanTowel
07-17-2012, 03:14 PM
Or that could be a good plot point. Not sure if Obama is the president in AC's universe though.
It's hard to know when the separation point is between our timeline and the AC timeline. The Fall is set in 1998 and there's references to the George Bush presidential campaign so it's still the same then but by 2012 some crazy **** has gone down. The e-mails in AC1 say like 90% of Africa's population has been killed by a plague, there's constant hurricanes on the coast of America and loads of Americans are trying to sneak into Mexico instead of the other way round. Anyway I think AC 2012 is very different from our 2012, so probably no Obama.

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 03:19 PM
Templar:

http://www.charlierose.com/images_toplevel/content/10/1036/segment_10369_460x345.jpg

MUHTAR KENT, Chairman and CEO of the Coca-Cola company.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqwDqN7LNsc&feature=results_main&playnext= 1&list=PL4E551473656DB10E

RatonhnhakeFan
07-17-2012, 03:20 PM
John Riccitiello and Bobby Kotick are definitely Templars

itsamea-mario
07-17-2012, 03:35 PM
Don't think he was specifically mentioned in AC

One of the head templars in modern-day:

http://manboobz.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/fed-chairman-us-federal-reserve-ben-bernanke-qe3.jpg


BEN BERNANKE, Chairman federal reserve

That's a Templar beard if i ever saw one.

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 03:41 PM
That's a Templar beard if i ever saw one.

Haha yeah, looks like Vidic.

Turul.
07-17-2012, 04:29 PM
martin luther king was assassinated, but i'm assuming he isnt a templar in the ac universe lol

ShaneO7K
07-17-2012, 04:40 PM
Michael Collins, assassinated by Templars?

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 04:46 PM
martin luther king was assassinated, but i'm assuming he isnt a templar in the ac universe lol

No way :p.

Assassin:

http://hiphopandpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/malcolm-x-the-future2.jpg

El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz aka Malcolm X

Got killed by couple of sleeper agents, the only known one is:

http://bumpshack.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/thomas_hagan.jpg

Thomas Hagan.




Given orders by this templar:

http://hiphopandpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/jedgar-hoover.jpg?w=645

J. Edgar Hoover.

TheHumanTowel
07-17-2012, 04:51 PM
Michael Collins, assassinated by Templars?
De Valera was such a Templar, at least the Alan Rickman version anyway.

LightRey
07-17-2012, 04:52 PM
Oh Hoover. Definitely a good Templar candidate.

WolfTemplar94
07-17-2012, 05:07 PM
President Nixon? It seems obvious. Especially with the allegations that he got in the way of negotiations to stop the Vietnam war, so that he could get into power.

TheHumanTowel
07-17-2012, 05:29 PM
President Nixon? It seems obvious. Especially with the allegations that he got in the way of negotiations to stop the Vietnam war, so that he could get into power.
Well Johnson was a Templar as well but he was pretty unpopular towards the end of the war so Nixon was probably brought in as his replacement. Makes sense as well seeing as Robert Kennedy was assassinated before the 1968 presidential election which Nixon won and we know J.F.K was assassinated by Templars.

Turul.
07-17-2012, 08:14 PM
lol john kerry is a templar?

lol thats funny

Turul.
07-17-2012, 08:16 PM
abe lincoln? knowing he signed the emancipation proclamation, but wasn't he a racist?

so what does that make john wilkes boothe?

Assassin_M
07-17-2012, 08:18 PM
I'm most likely not gonna go with the Templar always being evil..

I`ll do some research and come up with something..

De Filosoof
07-17-2012, 08:31 PM
I'm most likely not gonna go with the Templar always being evil..

I`ll do some research and come up with something..

Nice :).
No one i posted on here is actually "evil".
Are they obsessed with money/power? Yes. Are they obsessed with order? Yes. Do they make bad decisions? Yes.
Perfect templars.

rileypoole1234
07-17-2012, 08:31 PM
I'd like think that the whole bloodline of English royalty would've passed down a POE from generation to generation. Elizabeth II would have it now, and will pass it down to Prince Charles of Wales, who will pass it down to Prince William and so on and so on. They probably wouldn't need it as much now as they would've in the past, but I think they'd still have it.

MasterSimaYi
07-17-2012, 08:40 PM
abe lincoln? knowing he signed the emancipation proclamation, but wasn't he a racist?

so what does that make john wilkes boothe?

John Wilkes Booth was targeted/killed by the Assassins, making it quite unlikely that Abraham Lincoln was a Templar.

I also like to note that during modern times, all Templars and Assassins are fictional character. Real people or people from the mid to late 1900s don't seem to be actual Templars, but rather Templar puppets. Don't want to ruin the theories, but it may be something to consider.

BigredInfinity
09-13-2013, 09:39 AM
it is so Easily explained in so many possiblitys, you all are puppets of Our creed

Spider_Sith9
09-13-2013, 12:41 PM
So that means Syrian Crisis will not be in AC?

Sigv4rd
09-13-2013, 09:17 PM
I've said this before but the Modern Assassin Mentor needs to be Morgan Freeman! (or at least voiced by him)
http://www.veryimportantpotheads.com/site/freemanasgod.jpg
He already dresses like an assassin...

ze_topazio
09-13-2013, 09:48 PM
http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/13738864/877x658

Kaschra
09-13-2013, 10:46 PM
http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/13738864/877x658
Ahahaha, oh Angie xD