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Brain32
03-14-2004, 01:28 PM
I would like to see a flyable Tempest in the next patch and I am sure I am not the only one.

Brain32
03-14-2004, 01:28 PM
I would like to see a flyable Tempest in the next patch and I am sure I am not the only one.

TILLIO
03-14-2004, 01:32 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif.....Yesssss !

Luftcaca
03-14-2004, 01:32 PM
and Im sure we are not the two only ones http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Wilburnator
03-14-2004, 01:34 PM
I would LOVE to see a flyable Tempest in the next patch, but I'm not holding my breath. I think we might see it as an AI plane at least. Whatever we do get, I won't be complaining. I think the AEP is absolutely fantastic.

Luftcaca
03-14-2004, 01:38 PM
what about the Typhoon???
I luv this flying brick! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Obi_Kwiet
03-14-2004, 02:08 PM
Umm, why wouldn't any one? Heck, id like every plane in WWII in the next patch.

JG7_Rall
03-14-2004, 03:08 PM
This and a B25 and my life would be complete.

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VW-IceFire
03-14-2004, 03:42 PM
Need you ask? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Alex Voicu is working hard on the Tempest V. Each day I hope that its ready to go but he hasn't gotten there quite yet.

Harti is also working on a Typhoon 1B Late which could have a modified version of the Tempest V cockpit and have that flyable as well.

This is my hope...revenge of the RAF I like to call it. The servers will suddenly be flooded with Spitfire IX, XIV, Tempest V, and Typhoons laying waste to ground targets.

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[This message was edited by VW-IceFire on Sun March 14 2004 at 03:31 PM.]

JG7_Rall
03-14-2004, 06:56 PM
I really can't wait for this plane. Correct me if I'm wrong, but its sorta like a 190 with a bit more maneuverability and stronger armament, right? Anyways, its dead sexy, so I'll be flying it whether it works or not http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Snootles
03-14-2004, 08:04 PM
Who wouldn't? I will enjoy a flyable ANYTHING in the next patch!

boohaa
03-14-2004, 09:32 PM
I-185 for mehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WOLFMondo
03-15-2004, 01:30 AM
A Tempest would be very nice but a Spit XIV would be nicerhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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LEXX_Luthor
03-15-2004, 02:00 AM
All planes from 1935 to 1945 should be made Flyable. That's about 600 planes. Just a guess.

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WUAF_Badsight
03-15-2004, 02:27 AM
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VVS-Manuc
03-15-2004, 02:37 AM
No, I would not like to see a flyable Tempest in the next patch

Rab03
03-15-2004, 02:43 AM
I would like it, too. Also, Spitfire MkIX would be most appreciated.

Rab03
03-15-2004, 02:51 AM
Just a couple of thingst add. Typhoons are very nice, too. But they had a deadly catch-they tended to explode by themselves (even on runway while waiting for take-off). For long time designers tryed to solve this and other problems which made them very dangerous to fly.
By Pierre Closterman's story, his Tempest was hit near the root of the wing with explosive 30-37mm shell, which near-missed spur. Needless to say, he returned to the base.

blabla0001
03-15-2004, 03:02 AM
The Tempest got my vote as well.

And we already are going to get the Spitfire MKIX, but I really really hope we will be able to select loadouts like drop tanks and bombs. (1x500lbs in the centerline and 2x250lbs one on each wing)

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Fehler
03-15-2004, 04:12 AM
What an ugly little plane, like all the other RAF crates... EEEEEYYYYYUUUCK!

But I wouldnt mind seeing one...

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JaBo_HH--Gotcha
03-15-2004, 04:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brain32:
I would like to see a flyable Tempest in the next patch and I am sure I am not the only one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd say I'd like to have any plane possible in this sim.

I'm just no fan of these "secret weaposn of the luftwaffe and Allieds" stuff.
I'd gladly change a tempest/typhoon for the GO and the 109z or other postwar stuff which was maybe made and used once in the war...

Next thing is people will demand a B-29 Superfortress with THE Bomb and an accurate "Enola Gay" skin...

WOLFMondo
03-15-2004, 04:56 AM
I couldn't agree more.

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robban75
03-15-2004, 06:12 AM
The Tempest would be great! A good historical adversary to the Fw 190D-9 and Ta 152H! And it looks really cool aswell! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

BTW, I'm still hoping for a D-13! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Gato-Loco
03-15-2004, 01:28 PM
Yes yes!! Pleeeeease?

VaporBlast
03-15-2004, 01:47 PM
why not, this would be a great addition to an already great game. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VW-IceFire
03-15-2004, 02:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
I really can't wait for this plane. Correct me if I'm wrong, but its sorta like a 190 with a bit more maneuverability and stronger armament, right? Anyways, its dead sexy, so I'll be flying it whether it works or not http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Essentially correct. The Tempest and Typhoons were roughly equated as the RAF equivalent to the FW190. This mostly had to do with low level speed performance and the firepower that they carried around.

Ultimately the Typhoon was most effective as a ground support aircraft. Not to say that it didn't mix it up with fighters but I'd say that its slow roll rate was probably most prohibitive while fighting FW190's...that was made up by the fact that at low altitudes the Typhoon was faster than most of the Anton models it faced and its firepower was likely greater (Hispanos, once the problems were worked out, hit harder than MG151/20's) in some situations.

Tempest was completely the other way. Although it was still not an awesome fighter at high altitudes (ie. above 20,000 feet the Typhoon was abysmal, the Tempest was just average) the Tempest had even more firepower (Hispano MK 5 were more rapid fire cannons than Mk II + 200 rounds per gun), at higher speeds it would outroll Spitfires and 109G's (above 350 mph), and its maximum top speed below 20,000 feet was faster than even the FW190D-9.

In terms of turn ability both Typhoon and Tempest were fairly even and better than the FW190 while not being quite as good as the Bf 109G or the Mustang Mk III. Nothing specific I have here. Roll rate on the Tempest V was much better!

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/temp_sig1.jpg
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PzKpfw
03-15-2004, 02:48 PM
I would like a Tempest, be fun to torch D-9s in http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
03-15-2004, 02:53 PM
Tempest ,typhoon ,spit mkXIV i love them all
so i would say YES http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

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Monty_Thrud
03-15-2004, 03:46 PM
Does the pope sh*t in the woods...er...no thats not right...dagnammit...YES!...and thrice yes...to both of em http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/smileys-gun2.gif

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Hartmann.
03-15-2004, 04:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
I really can't wait for this plane. Correct me if I'm wrong, but its sorta like a 190 with a bit more maneuverability and stronger armament, right? Anyways, its dead sexy, so I'll be flying it whether it works or not http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://home.comcast.net/~nate.r/sig.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Essentially correct. The Tempest and Typhoons were roughly equated as the RAF equivalent to the FW190. This mostly had to do with low level speed performance and the firepower that they carried around.

Ultimately the Typhoon was most effective as a ground support aircraft. Not to say that it didn't mix it up with fighters but I'd say that its slow roll rate was probably most prohibitive while fighting FW190's...that was made up by the fact that at low altitudes the Typhoon was faster than most of the Anton models it faced and its firepower was likely greater (Hispanos, once the problems were worked out, hit harder than MG151/20's) in some situations.

Tempest was completely the other way. Although it was still not an awesome fighter at high altitudes (ie. above 20,000 feet the Typhoon was abysmal, the Tempest was just average) the Tempest had even more firepower (Hispano MK 5 were more rapid fire cannons than Mk II + 200 rounds per gun), at higher speeds it would outroll Spitfires and 109G's (above 350 mph), and its maximum top speed below 20,000 feet was faster than even the FW190D-9.

In terms of turn ability both Typhoon and Tempest were fairly even and better than the FW190 while not being quite as good as the Bf 109G or the Mustang Mk III. Nothing specific I have here. Roll rate on the Tempest V was much better!

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/temp_sig1.jpg
RCAF 412 Falcon Squadron - "Swift to Avenge"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your owrds says nothing to me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif since reading some RLM tests, the A4 could basically outturn F4 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hunde_3.JG51
03-15-2004, 05:48 PM
Hmm, not sure about Typhoon and Tempest out-turning the 190, I think they were pretty similar.

Anyway, no I don't want to see a Tempest because it scares the crap out of me. Actually I do because it is probably my favorite plane after the 190 series http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

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VW-IceFire
03-15-2004, 10:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hunde_3.JG51:
Hmm, not sure about Typhoon and Tempest out-turning the 190, I think they were pretty similar.

Anyway, no I don't want to see a Tempest because it scares the crap out of me. Actually I do because it is probably my favorite plane after the 190 series http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

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Most of the information in terms of turn times and whatnot is located here: http://user.tninet.se/~ytm843e/versus.htm

I've actually got that reversed. According to the tactical trials it was the G-6 it was better at in a turning circle while the FW190 it was fairly even with. So yes you are correct.

I wish really wish there was a better source of information. Everything there is comparative.

The FW190 is probably my favorite German fighter because its a similar aircraft to me. Having the A-9 and the D-9 matched up against Spitfire XIV's, Tempest V's and Mustang's will make me very very pleased to see. The performances are different but even and it should be a good fight for all aircraft.

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/temp_sig1.jpg
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Hunde_3.JG51
03-15-2004, 10:28 PM
Thanks for posting that Icefire, I respect your posts as much as anyone here.

Man, I can't wait for the Tempest. From what I have seen Alex and Hammerd will set a new standard with the Tempest (along with Gladiator in AEP). I think he made it too good http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif, didn't he have to reduce the poly count or something like that? Also, didn't I read that Alex initially started making the Tempest for his own sim he was designing or making at the time?

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pinche_bolillo
03-16-2004, 12:10 AM
more english and american a/c? what is the point? the way they are modeled they are useless.

Seafire_LIII
03-16-2004, 03:29 AM
Yes we need the Tempest!!! and a Typhoon, both with rockets (and a map of the Falaise Gap.
The only doubt I have is... if the Merlin powered planes sound like lawn mowers, the will we get anything remotely like the Napier Sabre (24 cylinders, 38Litres displacement (or 2238cu in you Americans), 3700rpm) sound. Lots of good stuff including sound files and movies can be found on the Hawker Tempest Page http://user.tninet.se/~ytm843e/tempest.htm

I'll also enter my vote for the Spit IX and XIV with full loadouts- for the Spit V and Hurricane too. Given the IX and XIV and the V you have all the major bits (different engine lengths and types, tailplanes, vertical tails, radiators, fuselages, armaments, props etc) in graphics model terms to make it relatively easy to add the Spit VII, VIII, XII, XVI and XVIII in all their variations along with the Seafire I, II, III, 15 and 17 in all their variations (getting good flight data might be a bit more trouble though). If we can have all those MiGs and 109s then we should have all these (well at least some please Oleg).

Gunner_361st
03-16-2004, 07:48 AM
God save the Tempest. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

You got my vote. The more airplanes the better. What I would LOVE to see though is...

A Spitfire MK IA. Do you guys know if anyone is working on it? We now have the Hurricane MKI A, HE-111 H2, Me109E4, CR-42, G-50, Stuka B2, all we really now need is the Spitfire MKIA and the BF110 C4 and we got a sampling of what Oleg's next title, Battle of Britian, will be like (I just hope my PC can handle it, lol!)

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Bull_dog_
03-16-2004, 06:20 PM
There was someone taking gibbages MkV and converting it to a Mk I or so I read awhile back. The database isn't updated anymore that I know of so I haven't heard much about it.

We must have the Typhoon and Tempest...from what I've seen of British aircraft, Oleg has been a little more generous with the more abstract handling characteristics than he is with American aircraft so I would think the Typhoon will fly straight and fast and roll like a pig...and the tempest will be a shear terror...maybe faster than a La-7 on the deck with tremendous firepower and good high speed turning ability but will wallow like a pig at low speed. That is where the Mk XIV comes in...perenial do all, anywhere, anytime...I think a properly modelled Mk XIV will have decent high speed turn and dive ability and stellar low speed turn, stall characterstics, roll rates, and super fast acceleration and very good top end both high and low...maybe we'll get the clipped and non-clipped versions.

When these birds roll of the assembly line, maybe throw in a Mk I for good measure, and it will truly be revenge of the RAF. I'm American but I have an undeniable urge and propensity to fly English aircraft.

I'll say what is on the minds of all RAF fans...I'm real glad for the AEP, but don't forget the RAF!

VW-IceFire
03-16-2004, 10:38 PM
Yes the XIV Spitfire will be very scarry to those who oppose it. You can probably catch one on the deck in a FW190D-9...its at altitude where the XIV really shines.

Glad to see lots of others also interested in these planes. The modelers doing them (Fievel for the XIV and Alex Voicu for the Tempest V plus Hammerd for both of the texture sets) surely can use our encouragement and enthusiasm. I hope both of these fine gentlemen get their stuff to Oleg and we get these aircraft in the sim.

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