PDA

View Full Version : I ve been forgotten



XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 08:31 PM
Hi Oleg,

I would like to ask you and your development team one thing.

Before the old timers here (read 2002) start complaining, I would like to say that my old password doesn t work, so I changed my account to JHAT_


I was part of the development team that worked on teh P47, it was JAmbock_45 and Jambock_47, or as some people remember, JHAT and WPedra0. I worked on it until i went to Germany for a year, I returned a month ago.
What happened while i was away was that FB was released, and what did I see? My name wasn t in the credits list. As if I hadn t worked on anything! Alright, I saw from teh pictures that your team changed the external skins, don t know about the skin base (I didn t take alook at teh game after I came, no time) but what is visible is different.. Hmm, not really.. I could see apicture that shows the engine of teh P47 and could recognize it. The cockpit is also still my work, everything!

I would just like to know what happened, that you guys printed on the manual and put in the game that Urubu (Julio, Jambock__01) and WPedrao were the only people who worked on this project. I would like to say that I dont agree. I was also involved, with all the texture area, WPedrao was responsible for the modle and Urubu for the historical research. I don t know if anyone here remembers, but there were some posts that I made at Il2 Center (before July 2002), here (with Urubu, showing the brazilian skins) and at a CFSII site that I can t remember the name.

If anyone thinks that I m just trying to win some credits on this work, research a little bit aroudn the net (before july2002) and you will fidn that I made everything of it until- while I was living in Germany- the Oleg team chenged the external skin.

So, my question is: Did you guys forget me, didn t considerate including the skin maker just because you changed part of it, or what?

If someone could answer me this, I d appreciate...

Carlos Henrique Theodoro.. Oleg, does this name ring a bell in your head? From all teh emails from pedrao, about the P47 development?? If it doesn t, ask that development supervisor of yours.. I forgot his name, he was responsible for saying what was wrong and all...


JHAT
ex Jambock__45
www.gavca.com (http://www.gavca.com) !!!!

XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 08:31 PM
Hi Oleg,

I would like to ask you and your development team one thing.

Before the old timers here (read 2002) start complaining, I would like to say that my old password doesn t work, so I changed my account to JHAT_


I was part of the development team that worked on teh P47, it was JAmbock_45 and Jambock_47, or as some people remember, JHAT and WPedra0. I worked on it until i went to Germany for a year, I returned a month ago.
What happened while i was away was that FB was released, and what did I see? My name wasn t in the credits list. As if I hadn t worked on anything! Alright, I saw from teh pictures that your team changed the external skins, don t know about the skin base (I didn t take alook at teh game after I came, no time) but what is visible is different.. Hmm, not really.. I could see apicture that shows the engine of teh P47 and could recognize it. The cockpit is also still my work, everything!

I would just like to know what happened, that you guys printed on the manual and put in the game that Urubu (Julio, Jambock__01) and WPedrao were the only people who worked on this project. I would like to say that I dont agree. I was also involved, with all the texture area, WPedrao was responsible for the modle and Urubu for the historical research. I don t know if anyone here remembers, but there were some posts that I made at Il2 Center (before July 2002), here (with Urubu, showing the brazilian skins) and at a CFSII site that I can t remember the name.

If anyone thinks that I m just trying to win some credits on this work, research a little bit aroudn the net (before july2002) and you will fidn that I made everything of it until- while I was living in Germany- the Oleg team chenged the external skin.

So, my question is: Did you guys forget me, didn t considerate including the skin maker just because you changed part of it, or what?

If someone could answer me this, I d appreciate...

Carlos Henrique Theodoro.. Oleg, does this name ring a bell in your head? From all teh emails from pedrao, about the P47 development?? If it doesn t, ask that development supervisor of yours.. I forgot his name, he was responsible for saying what was wrong and all...


JHAT
ex Jambock__45
www.gavca.com (http://www.gavca.com) !!!!

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 10:04 AM
Why are people spelling 'the' as 'teh'??
Is it some gangster rap thing and I'm too old being in my early thirties...?
Or is it just a typo from typing too fast?
Think I'm missing something.

Anyway, sorry to hear you were left out.
That's not on.

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 10:18 AM
Scragbat wrote:
- Why are people spelling 'the' as 'teh'??
- Is it some gangster rap thing and I'm too old being
- in my early thirties...?
- Or is it just a typo from typing too fast?
- Think I'm missing something.
-
- Anyway, sorry to hear you were left out.
- That's not on.
-
I have wanted to ask the same thing but feared being flamed. I can understand it from the non-english community but it seems extremely prevelent even amongst the English speakers. Does no one use a spell checker? But even that would not help when the wrong word is so often used. For example "wood" instead of "would". Also, "to" and "too" are continually being used wrongly. It makes the reading and understanding of some posts very difficult. We have a perfectly good language, it's a shame not to use it.


I'd never join a club that would have ME as a member!!.

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 11:04 AM
As a Swede I can olny /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif say that we DO know how too /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif spell "the", it's juste /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif the fingers getting mixed up on teh /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif keyboard.

By the way, I think you guys should skip the capital "I" and write "i" instead. Hate the CAPS key!


<center>http://www.gbg.bonet.se/bjorta/F19-Orheim-IDCard-sm.gif

<center>http://www.bloggerheads.com/mash_quiz/images/mash_hawkeye.jpg (http://www.bloggerheads.com/mash_quiz/)



http://www.gbg.bonet.se/bjorta/F19%20VS%20banner%20B.jpg (http://www.f19vs.tk)

</center>

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 03:42 PM
Hey Jhat how goes it bro'!

Long time no see! I noticed you weren't on the credit list. You did great work on the P47 for sure.

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 09:18 PM
Why doesn t Oleg read these things???
I think it s because of teh same reason why he left me out, or whoever did it...

Teh.. well, that s supposed to be the typed too fast...

As I was saying, could someone answer me WHY I was left out?


Greb, hi, how are you doing? I was in Germany the last year, so no computer anymore, nothing.. I just stopped working on anything or playing.. thanks that you recognize it...


JHAT

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 10:00 PM
JHAT_ wrote:
- Why doesn t Oleg read these things???
- I think it s because of teh same reason why he left
- me out, or whoever did it...
-
- Teh.. well, that s supposed to be the typed too
- fast...
-
- As I was saying, could someone answer me WHY I was
- left out?
-
-
- Greb, hi, how are you doing? I was in Germany the
- last year, so no computer anymore, nothing.. I just
- stopped working on anything or playing.. thanks that
- you recognize it...
-
-
I don't think that telling this story on a public forum will help you to solve your problems.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye
shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be
measured to you again.

http://acompletewasteofspace.com/forum/templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif (http://acompletewasteofspace.com/forum/index.php)

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 10:29 PM
Im American and it happens to me all teh time. See it just happend again /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-15-2003, 11:04 PM
JHAT_ wrote:
- Why doesn t Oleg read these things???
- I think it s because of teh same reason why he left
- me out, or whoever did it...

He read it be sure.
Ok you done your job and now, just step by side ok.
Have a great one.

(The new Logo from UbiSoft is great)

ZG77_Nagual
09-16-2003, 12:01 AM
JHAT - I think alot of us remember you did the P47 - throughout the development updates it was referred to as your baby - also since when it is cited. Must've been a simple oversite.

I think Oleg does not visit these forums as much as he used to for two reasons - one busy - two if you read around on here you can see alot of it is sort of nasty. Has to be kind of demoralizing. In any case, your excellent work is very much appreciated by many of us. Just in this latest release the P47 really got it's wings and it is a wonderful addition to the game.

S!

http://pws.chartermi.net/~cmorey/pics/p47janes.jpg

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 06:07 PM
Dang Jhat no PC!

I can't even comprehend that!

XyZspineZyX
09-16-2003, 08:42 PM
Well, what do you expect him to do? Recall all the manuals and reprint them?

No one bothers reading credits except the guys who are in them, so wouldn't worry about it.

XyZspineZyX
09-19-2003, 08:59 PM
ALright, keep your smart *** regards to yourself please "guy with the wierd abbreviation name". I don tneed them, if you don tahve anything good to say, and don t know what this whole story is about, don t say anything.


For the others who replied.

Well, the only thing I expected from this project was being able to fly the P47, that s why I agreed to make the textures, so the plane would be available in FB. That happenned but I wasn table to fly it yet, no PC anymore... So the second thing I expected was at least my name to be put as the maker of the textures of teh P47. Who cares if Oleg s team changed teh external skins? He kept everything else so it sstill my work isn t it? It s not about reprinting them, I just wanted to know WHY he or whoever did it so. It s really frustrating to spend 6 months working on something and not get ANYTHING for it. I didn tdo it for money, but to be able to fly it and let otehrs fly it too. If I hadn tdone it, someone else would have textured Pedraos great work, I did this, so I deserv the credits don t I? I dont care if someone is gonna read it.. I wan tto read it!

I would like an answer to the question: Why my name was left out?


Thank you.

PS: Greb, what happenned to WW2F Online?


JHAT

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 04:12 AM
WOOD A WOULD FRAME BE BETTER?
jk

THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WON WITHOUT THE CANADIANS

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 10:45 PM
JHAT_ wrote:
- Hi Oleg,
-
- I would like to ask you and your development team
- one thing.
-
- Before the old timers here (read 2002) start
- complaining, I would like to say that my old
- password doesn t work, so I changed my account to
- JHAT_
-
-
2002? 2001 here!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye
shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be
measured to you again.

http://acompletewasteofspace.com/forum/templates/subSilver/images/logo_phpBB.gif (http://acompletewasteofspace.com/forum/index.php)

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 11:22 PM
The original WW2 was shut down by Fluke. He just got tired of dealing with certain people.

It was then taken over by one of the old gang. Sorry can't remember who............haven't been there in awhile maybe its gone now to!

Good to hear from you Jhat, when did you leave Brazil? Wish we could do some online flying sometime!

You know in some ways I miss WW2 Fighters JHAT. After you guys did the Emil and Rammjager did the Mustang. My favorite plane in that sim was the P47. I flew countless hours in that damn thing, particulary ground stuff. Nothing like coming hard and fast at a Wirlwind and taking it out before he could get his guns on you. I like skip bombing with it to, I got real accurate in WW2 Fighters doing that. IL/Fb is by far a more superior sim, even though the P47 in FB really left me down. I have never flown an actual one of course but in WW2 it felt .........heavier..........like a 57 Chevy Ya know? You felt like you were well protected, and the damn thing flew forever. I miss that. You would go home smoking but you went home.

You know its to bad EA never let slip the source code. That and a Max plugin for the models. God the J3 was mind numbing!

Oh well here is to waitng on the Mustang!



Message Edited on 09/20/0304:24PM by Greb

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:16 PM
Hi Greb,

WW2F was a good sim http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I liked it.. I still remeber how it was to model witht he J3 Editor... "Mann" ... We still had some nice planes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I ve never flown FB so I dont know how it is.. Maybe in January I m gonna be back at flying. SO I guess we see each other then http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



With 2002 I emant the year when I made teh textures for the p47... I don t know when I started visiting this forum... WW2F Online was 2000 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Cya

JHAT