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Gibbage1
06-17-2004, 12:54 PM
I have played AH a little. I dont like the FM at all, but at least it has accurate ballistics http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Anyone try this new Aces High 2.0 yet? Just released. Im at work now so I cant check it out. Tell me if they improved the graphics and FM!

http://www.hitechcreations.com/download2.html

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

Gibbage1
06-17-2004, 12:54 PM
I have played AH a little. I dont like the FM at all, but at least it has accurate ballistics http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Anyone try this new Aces High 2.0 yet? Just released. Im at work now so I cant check it out. Tell me if they improved the graphics and FM!

http://www.hitechcreations.com/download2.html

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

woofiedog
06-17-2004, 01:19 PM
Is this a Free Download? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Echo50
06-17-2004, 01:19 PM
hmmm...... well i like aces high so this may be a little biased. The graphics i would say are marginally better. still nothing compared to AEP. but i think the FM from 1.14 to 2.0 is quite a bit different. seems more realistic to me, especially in terms of low speed handling and stalls. btw make sure you turn the "stall limiter" function off. this is for newbs that complain cause they can't turn their plane with out spining it. it is on by default. very important to turn this off, to get a good feel for the FM. i like the fact that it is actually possible to stall both wings in AH2, very necessary for that perfect landing flare and touch down. Gunnery is harder now than it was in AH1. I think it is the perfect compromise between IL2 gunnery and AH1 gunnery. effective firing ranges for me personally are between 150yards to 400yards. Thats about the same in meters, but forget what the exact conversion is. Also AH has between 100-500 players in their main arena server. They also have a combat theatre, which features historical plane sets and locations, and a special events area. one major bummer is lack of support for track ir. i have my track ir2 workng in AH but it is a pain in the a$$.

so in answer to your original questions,

yes the graphics have been updated, and are getting updated all the time. not all new plane models and textures have been completed yet.

yes the FM has been updated, and seems more realistic to me than il2. but i'm not a pilot either. just my opinion.

Gibbage1
06-17-2004, 01:31 PM
My biggest gribe was the robot-like FM were things just did not have the fluid motion of IL2. CFS3 had the same non-fluid FM.

I also hatedt the fact that bombers went down like NOTHING. I played Air Warrior a lot back in the days and loved to crew up bombers. My fave position was the tail gunner and you had to be very good to take down a fully crewed B-17. In AH I had a zero hit me twice and the bomber blew up. Also I was in the PT boat and a f4f killed me by straifing with just a few hits.

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

Echo50
06-17-2004, 02:05 PM
i agree the bombers may go down a bit too easily. i know right now the b17 has a bug in it, and is being worked on. also if your pilot gets hit by a round and it kills him the plane simply explodes and sends you back to the tower. so maybe it wasn't the buff that blew up, just your pilot died. i know i am hesitant to engage any well equiped buff in a 4x 50cal armed plane. p51b, f4f, etc. in my experience you can sometimes pump a lot of mg ammo into the 17 and not have it go down. but then i've also takin their wing off in a high deflection snapshot that couldn't have put a whole lot of ammo on the target. i guess its just one of those things. i'm not sure what your refering to about the robot-like fm, and i never bothered playing CFS3, but engagements seem pretty fluid to me. i would say just try it out and see what you think.

@woofiedog. the game itself is free, as is 16 player servers via their head to head system. to play in the other arenas its $14.95 a month with unlimited time online. i think there is still a free 2 week trial when you first get the game.

i had better stop posting about this now, as it feels like cheating on your girlfriend talking about it on this BB.

woofiedog
06-17-2004, 02:52 PM
Thank's for the information Echo50!
I'll give a try this week-end. Can't be any worst than CFSM3... although CFSM3 with add-on Firepower has flyable B-17s, B-29s, Ju-88, Lancaster and Ar-264... all with Nuke's or with the British Tall Boys. And with the Crew Stations.
But What the Hec it can't kill Yah to try something New.
THANK'S

Snakeyes2050
06-17-2004, 05:19 PM
Aces High 2 is an overall improvement over it's predecessor. It has improved graphics and I feel that the flight models are more accurate. My opinion is based on what I have read, the flight characteristics and performance that I am seeing. I am not a real life pilot, so my experience is subjective. IMO, Aces High is the best WWII MMOG for flying that's available today. It benefits from a large community like IL-2.

S~Knife21

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karost
06-19-2004, 06:15 AM
Hi, Gibbage1
Thanks for your information.

I was played AH 1.x before , spin and stall very terrible and harder then EAW.

now I going download AH 2.0

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif for myself drive AEP it's like bicycle and AH like motor-cycle http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'm not a real pilot so that would be nice if a real pilot's friends share his idea about FM between AEP and AH about real world of a/c , that is a good knowledge for me(us)...S~

S!

crazyivan1970
06-19-2004, 06:32 AM
Game of last century IMO... was damn good one tho.

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easymo
06-19-2004, 12:27 PM
AH is superior to FB in a very important way. Cheat containment. You cant ram a friendly. You cant shoot down a friendly. If someone is caught hacking the game. He can be truly, banned.

crazyivan1970
06-19-2004, 12:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by easymo:
AH is superior to FB in a very important way. Cheat containment. You cant ram a friendly. You cant shoot down a friendly. If someone is caught hacking the game. He can be truly, banned.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

AH uses the same concept, IP ban or username ban, so nothing superior there. As far as not shooting friendly down... that`s a loss not superiority IMO.

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

easymo
06-19-2004, 12:44 PM
"AH uses the same concept"

We all know how easy it is to get around that. With a online game, like AH, you must pay a monthly bill. One of the few advantages of that is. You must Identify yourself to pay the bill. You could get around that also. But, it would be a lot of trouble. How many times would the cheater want to go through that. Just to cheat.

Off line, getting killed by a friendly, is fine. Online it is abused to an extreme. Additionally. You have the idiotic "feature" of the ramee being the one that is penalized.

No. I don't think it is the same concept. Not even close.

Gibbage1
06-19-2004, 01:10 PM
Lets not argue about this. I still find the graphics sub-par and the FM to be rather BAD. Its still god that robotic feel. There is no slight ajustments to your flight. It does not have that fluid feel you get with FA, FS200X or FB at all. It really takes me out of the game and makes me feel like i am flying a remote controled scale model, not a large lumbering aircraft. I dont mind the graphics. But I do mind that.

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.