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Cpt_Rio
03-23-2004, 07:45 AM
Please, I love this plane, but cant hit sh%t with that 37mm cannon. It´s driving me crazy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

But with the P39 its a diferent story. Why is it easier to aim its 37mm than the P63 one???

Cpt_Rio
03-23-2004, 07:45 AM
Please, I love this plane, but cant hit sh%t with that 37mm cannon. It´s driving me crazy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

But with the P39 its a diferent story. Why is it easier to aim its 37mm than the P63 one???

carguy_
03-23-2004, 07:59 AM
Because in FB P39 is twice better than P63.

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Cpt_Rio
03-23-2004, 08:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy_:
Because in FB P39 is twice better than P63.

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But Im playing AEP

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-23-2004, 08:04 AM
I experienced similar thoughts upon first trying out the "King". Like anything else, it's really a matter of practice and setting convergences for your style.

I flew the P-39 quite a bit in the earlier iterations and tried to apply that experience to the P-63. They're very different and have different strengths and weaknesses, but I really like the P-63 now and have finally started having some measure of success with it.

It's definitely faster and the extra 37mm ammo is a nice thing to have.



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carguy_
03-23-2004, 08:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cpt_Rio:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy_:
Because in FB P39 is twice better than P63.

http://carguy.w.interia.pl/tracki/sig23d.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But Im playing AEP<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Ahh,but AEP is an expansion pack.Why do you give "Forgotten battles",the full game,an etiquiette of an expansion pack?

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Tank50
03-23-2004, 08:39 AM
I'm a long time P-39 driver. I haven't noticed much difference in deflection shooting with the P-63. Be sure that your convergence settings are the same as what you're used to in the P-39. Your closure rate may be higher which might throw your timing off on low deflection shots when your target is evading. Also, as has been noted before, the P-39 is more nimble which translates to quicker aiming adjustments. Better speed and altitude performance and more ammo makes the P-63 truly the King.

adlabs6
03-23-2004, 11:46 AM
I have really had a good time with the P63, nearly better than with the P38. It flys very nicely, if you stay back from the stall edge. I also had a darn hard time hitting with the nose cannon, my aim has gotten very rusty I guess.

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AirBot
03-23-2004, 12:11 PM
The only way I can hit anything with that cannon is if I fly right up to the target and stick it straight up it's tailpipe.
This holds true for both the P39 and P63. Where's a bloody mini-gun when you need one?

BpGemini
03-23-2004, 01:47 PM
I set my cannon convergence to 100m.
After that it's just practice for the most part.

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Janacek
03-23-2004, 02:30 PM
I love the P63. It has a lot of little quirks which almost turned me off from it at first. To me it seems to have a very complex FM. The slightest changes in nose attitude and speed seem to call for a different approach to handling. After getting used to its relative touchiness--and getting used to feeling of always being "close to the edge"--I've been won over--completely. Personally I set my convergence to 180 meters--both cannon and guns. The fifties seem to me to have a nice rapid fire rate (for going through the prop) and can do surprising damage. Often I find that hitting a target just a few times with the more accurate 50s can weaken him sufficiently to come in very close for the kill with the 37mm. The cannon is like throwing a shotput at something. It's definitely hard at longer ranges, but better accuracy does come with practice. Another thing I've found important--using the rudder effectively when behind an enemy is crucial. You can't be too violent with the stick, but the plane responds to rudder well, and with it you can jerk that cannon around toward the sweet spot real quick. Fun plane!

Gibbage1
03-23-2004, 04:46 PM
Also one thing I noticed. The P-63's 37MM has a lot higher velocity. I have learned to lead the P-39 at least 1/2 a mile in front of the target. Not so with the P-63. Its more like aiming with the Mk-103! I set the P-39 to 100M on the canon and it would hit the aircraft on the crosshair due to the falloff. With the P-63, I need to aim low with 100M.

Gib

Covino
03-23-2004, 05:50 PM
If I were a 39/63 pilot in WWII, no doubt I would have "borrowed" a K-14 gunsight from a 51.
Then it would REALLY earn the title of "Acemaker". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/smileys-gun2.gif

VW-IceFire
03-23-2004, 05:55 PM
P-63 I find to be far superior over the P-39 for most things. Last night I was able to push the throttle full forward and outrun a Bf 109 (I think a late G or a K-4) at extremely low altitude.

Aim is a toughie in this bird...practice and get a feel for the gun. Do not open fire until the target is well inside your gunsight...use the .50 cal for intimidation and shooting off controls. Once you're in for a close shot fire both MG and cannon for a short burst (perhaps a second or a bit longer) and then re-adjust and try again.

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