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MPortus
02-03-2004, 03:47 PM
Update at German site

btw, flyable 110

here (http://www.il2sturmovik.de/fb_addon_features.php)

MPortus
02-03-2004, 03:47 PM
Update at German site

btw, flyable 110

here (http://www.il2sturmovik.de/fb_addon_features.php)

tsisqua
02-03-2004, 03:51 PM
I notice that it lists the Gloster Gladiator as flyable. When I click the link, however, I get a pick of a B-17.

Thank You . . . BUNCHES

Tsisqua

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Tsalagi Asgaya Galvladi

MPortus
02-03-2004, 03:53 PM
Tsisqua,
here you go

Gladiator (http://www.il2sturmovik.de/ss_addon_4/sshot107.jpg)

Edit2: Bad link on first edit http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
[This message was edited by MPortus on Tue February 03 2004 at 03:13 PM.]

[This message was edited by MPortus on Wed February 04 2004 at 03:24 AM.]

BpGemini
02-03-2004, 03:58 PM
P-63 ...... that's all I've got to say. w00t!!!

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IL-2 original P-39 vet soon to be P-63 vet.

delta_9_tetra
02-03-2004, 04:00 PM
those numbers are messed up! here's the gladiator
http://www.il2sturmovik.de/ss_addon_4/sshot104.jpg

http://www.imgmag.org/images/delta9tetra/030104-d9t.gif

Waldo.Pepper
02-03-2004, 04:05 PM
Sorry Delta

That looks like a CR42 to me.

EPP-Gibbs
02-03-2004, 04:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BpGemini:
P-63 ...... that's all I've got to say. w00t!!!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Look!! We get the P80...never did anything in WW2....Look... 3 versions of the Japanese Frank...never came anywhere near the Eastern or Western European fronts... hell, Europe in it's entirety.

...ahh but the best of all, we get absolutely no Spitfires...not even one ickle bickle Spitty....even though thousands and thousands served throughout the war and beyond, in every theatre of operations, and was probably the aircraft flown by the more nationalities than any other....

..and we STILL don't get it.

Re-arrange these words: Ommission Glaring.

If I had all the money I'd spent on drink..I'd spend it on drink!

Dunkelgrun
02-03-2004, 04:12 PM
11th March.

And, dare I say it, no Spitfire? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Cheers!

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crazyivan1970
02-03-2004, 04:16 PM
Spit 5 will be there, not the 9

V!
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crazyivan1970
02-03-2004, 04:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BpGemini:
P-63 ...... that's all I've got to say. w00t!!!

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IL-2 original P-39 vet soon to be P-63 vet.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Prepare to be disapointed Gem, Q10 will fly circles around it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

V!
Regards,

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

MPortus
02-03-2004, 04:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Spit 5 will be there, not the 9
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"In der Flugzeugliste fehlt noch die englische Spitfire, an der die Entwickler gerade arbeiten. Die Spitfire wird sehr wahrscheinlich in 2 Versionen fliegbar sein"

So yes at least the V should be in the add-on.

Blottogg
02-03-2004, 04:25 PM
Here's the Gladiator, guys.

http://www.il2sturmovik.de/ss_addon_4/sshot107.jpg

Blotto

"Speed is life." - Anon
"Sight is life. Speed is merely groovy." - "Junior"

Capt_Haddock
02-03-2004, 04:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
Sorry Delta
That looks like a CR42 to me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Indeed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
This (http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/haddock/il2/gladiator/glad_12.jpg) is a Gladiator...

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/haddock/sig/F19bannerh.jpg
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/haddock/sig/F19banner.jpg

MPortus
02-03-2004, 04:44 PM
lol do you guys really read threads? I posted the Gladiator screenshot on the second reply.

btw, great job Haddock.

F19_Olli72
02-03-2004, 06:59 PM
Cptn Haddock i take it those are the default skins? If so they look awesome http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

CO_Eagle_31stFG
02-03-2004, 07:20 PM
Well if this is correct.
We get the bumb end of the shaft.
NO spit (which was in the European theatre), but we do get a 109Z ( An aircraft which absolutely never saw 1 single flight not even for test).

This would make the first of 3 versions of IL2 to include aircraft of a fictional sort. At least the other versions had planes that actually flew. Too bad they may be bringing in UFOs', well I hope this page was bogus, or I guess we should expect to see some other never flown planes to come.

As you can tell I hate the thought of getting planes with no flight data.

If they want to add in the 109z as it really was, that would be ok. Here's what you would get another aircraft object you could place in a hangar to be blown up. Thats all it would be good for as that was all the action this plane ever saw. The prototype was destroyed in the hangar and the Germans never worked on the prototype again they simply moved on to the next experiment, the 262 projects.

Willy_Wombat
02-03-2004, 07:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CO_Eagle_31stFG:
Well if this is correct.
We get the bumb end of the shaft.
.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats right eagle, call the hard work these people did, for free in many cases, a bum end.

go paint one of your three hour skins and cry about the low grades you get.

WW

Future-
02-03-2004, 07:41 PM
THE SPITFIRE WILL BE IN THE ADD-ON!!!!
As MPortus posted already:

"In der Flugzeugliste fehlt noch die englische Spitfire, an der die Entwickler gerade arbeiten. Die Spitfire wird sehr wahrscheinlich in 2 Versionen fliegbar sein"

Roughly translated, it says:

"Currently missing in the planelist is the english Spitfire, which is currently being worked on by the developers. It is highly possible that the Spitfire will be flyable in two versions."

So, this means we probably not only get the Mk V, but also another version (the Mk IX?).

Now, QUIT THE FREAKIN' WHINING!!!!!! "Buuu-Huuuu, we only get 27 new crap planes, along with more useless ai targets, buuuu-huuu, and I'm too stupid to read that my Spitfire will be there, buuu-huuuu, and this and that didn't see action......."

Some of you guys really make me sick. DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T BUY IT! Simple is that.

Now, I also could go up and down the wall again 'cause the B-25 interiors are delayed... but hell I don't. The B-25 will at least as an ai plane get included, and 4 different versions of it. Plus the 'pits are under construction. That's damn ok for me.
Also, the "110-question" is finally answered.

The only thing that confuses me a little is that our german website got this update while the US site still lacks this info.

S!, now we know what we will get, and when: 11.03.2004

- Future

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aerick2
02-03-2004, 07:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MPortus:
lol do you guys really read threads? I posted the Gladiator screenshot on the second reply.

btw, great job Haddock.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe you should double check the link you posted, bucko! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

necrobaron
02-03-2004, 07:47 PM
I for one am very grateful for everything we're getting,though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed that we're not getting a flyable B-25. In any case, it looks like the add-on will be well worth my money... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

"Not all who wander are lost."

Future-
02-03-2004, 08:17 PM
Damn right necrobaron! Besides, we will get the 'pits for the B-25 later (they are coming!), but in the meantime we at least have 4 (!) versions of the Mitchell as ai planes.

Cheers!

- Future

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Bearcat99
02-03-2004, 10:09 PM
Manomanomanomanoman I love this sim.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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WUAF_Badsight
02-03-2004, 10:21 PM
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Future-
02-03-2004, 11:02 PM
Seems Badsight is happy too! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

- Future

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380th Bomb Group 5th AF USAAF

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CO_Eagle_31stFG
02-03-2004, 11:08 PM
Willy_Wombat

posted 03-02-04 20:36
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by CO_Eagle_31stFG:
Well if this is correct.
We get the bumb end of the shaft.
.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Thats right eagle, call the hard work these people did, for free in many cases, a bum end.

go paint one of your three hour skins and cry about the low grades you get.

WW


Free or not I will voice my opinion when it comes to fiction in a game based so much on realism. Send those models to cfs2 they like UFOs http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Besides just how hard do you think it is to make a plane that had no specs. You might build the shell but that would be it and that is not hard to do, whats hard is trying to make it fly with the characteristics it actually had. The 109z has absolutely no flight data so whatever the modeler puts in it is a total farce and will hold no historical value.

I've finished with skinning publicly btw because of people like you. Your simply not worth my time.

[This message was edited by CO_Eagle_31stFG on Wed February 04 2004 at 12:29 PM.]

Friendly_flyer
02-04-2004, 12:13 AM
Is it just me, ore are the models becomming better and better? The P-11 is somewhat "primitively" modelled (note: I could not even modell a paper plane if I tried to, so no disrespect to the modelling guys), but the Gladiator is a regular piece of art! Oooo, flyable Gladiator, I really can't wait!

Fly friendly!

Petter B√¬łckman
Norway

Lawn_Dart
02-04-2004, 12:24 AM
&gt;&gt;"I've finished with skinning publicly btw because of people like you. Your simply not worth my time."&lt;&lt; (CO_Eagle_31stFG)

Eagle, I do hope you realize that with your pathetic whining about "ufo's" and "missing aircraft", that some very talented 3D modelers (who, I may add, are building these add-on aircraft for FREE) could very well end up with the same attitude as you do about your skins. The only difference is that skins such as yours can be made in mere hours, whereas quality 3D models take weeks of hard, dedicated work.

Be thankful for what you get.

If you don't like it, ...then don't buy it. Go make your own spitfire, and I am sure we will all line up for your add-on when it becomes available.

In the meantime, be thankful that Oleg has continued to support this game with high quality updates, and the dozens of talented 3D modelers have DONATED their time to add anything to your gaming experience.

Tempestate
02-04-2004, 01:04 AM
I notice it says Die Online Kampagne

Anyone know if this is playable via LAN

It would be great FUN!!!!!

BlindHuck
02-04-2004, 02:27 AM
Hey Future-, what do you think we can do to get one of Pappy Gunn's Strafers (maybe Air Apache) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif I'd really like island hopping in one of them babies!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Aeronautico
02-04-2004, 02:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lawn_Dart:
(...)
talented 3D modelers (who, I may add, are building these add-on aircraft for FREE)
(...)
quality 3D models take weeks of hard, dedicated work.
(...)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aircraft models in the add-on for free? Uh, you better think twice!
Sure they'd have done them for free for the inclusion in a free patch, but if they're going in a retail product, they're going to be paid. Be sure.

And there's only one modeller doing the job in few weeks: Gibbage (who is not always perfect apparently, given that 1C are retouching his Mk.V models). Otherwise, it's a matter of months: several, many months.

Aero

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to feed the dog, and the dog's job is to bite the pilot if he touches anything...

- Arlen Rens, Lockheed Martin test pilot

Das_alte_leid
02-04-2004, 02:57 AM
Hey guys.

I'm new, but been a lurker for a while.
Uh, there seems just a little bit too much whinging going on. How old are these whinging people. surly they must be kids. Not that I'm very grown up, but I am sure grateful for these beautiful works of art. Name me one other sim with this amount of realism and dedication.

Anyway, thank you very much for posting this, as I have been waiting a little while for an update. What's happened to them? Have they been stopped?

Thanks again.

Wir bist das leiben?

269GA-Veltro
02-04-2004, 03:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EPP-Gibbs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BpGemini:
P-63 ...... that's all I've got to say. w00t!!!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Look!! We get the P80...never did anything in WW2....Look... 3 versions of the Japanese Frank...never came anywhere near the Eastern or Western European fronts... hell, Europe in it's entirety.

...ahh but the best of all, we get absolutely no Spitfires...not even one ickle bickle Spitty....even though thousands and thousands served throughout the war and beyond, in every theatre of operations, and was probably the aircraft flown by the more nationalities than any other....

..and we STILL don't get it.

Re-arrange these words: Ommission Glaring.

If I had all the money I'd spent on drink..I'd spend it on drink!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He he....you're right, but don't worry..we'll have Spitfire.
Support Oleg please....but spent on drink!!!

269GA~Veltro
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Future-
02-04-2004, 05:01 AM
Hm, who says FB has to be limited to a european/eastern front scenario?

Ah, the narrow-minded I-always-find-something-to-whine-about guys do! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif


@ Das_alte_Lied: Well, I don't know. It seems Ubi/1C have everybody so busy on completing the add-on so noone can make a dev update. I'm glad we finally got the information we have from the german site.
We will see if we will get another dev update anytime soon.

S!

- Future

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LeadSpitter_
02-04-2004, 06:03 AM
guess another 6 months for the b25 and b24, another addon new planes and making all ai flyable would be something to keep the $$$s in 1cs and the modelers pocket and the eastern front people happy

3 new maps would be great also

North africa terrain
cliffs of dover terrain
burma china terrain
italian map malta and italy

this sim has so much potential to be added and can continue making money, Im looking forward to BOB but i think alot of people wont have the systems to run it, alot will stay here in FB if the good planes and maps addons come out, not just the mis and skins addons for 30 wastes "not luthier campaign editor"

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Huxley_S
02-04-2004, 06:09 AM
Any news on any non-a/c, map, skins, campaign info on the new expansion pack?

i.e. anything about improved AI, graphics tweaks, new speech files or anything like that?

Dunkelgrun
02-04-2004, 06:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Future-:
THE SPITFIRE WILL BE IN THE ADD-ON!!!!
As MPortus posted already:

"In der Flugzeugliste fehlt noch die englische Spitfire, an der die Entwickler gerade arbeiten. Die Spitfire wird sehr wahrscheinlich in 2 Versionen fliegbar sein"

Roughly translated, it says:

"Currently missing in the planelist is the english Spitfire, which is currently being worked on by the developers. It is highly possible that the Spitfire will be flyable in two versions."

So, this means we probably not only get the Mk V, but also another version (the Mk IX?)....

...and I'm too stupid to read that my Spitfire will be there, buuu-huuuu, and this and that didn't see action......."

The only thing that confuses me a little is that our german website got this update while the US site still lacks this info.

S!, now we know what we will get, and when: 11.03.2004

- Future<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Bloody Hell Future that's a bit harsh. I'm not too stupid to read that the Spit will be there, it's just that I DON'T SPEAK GERMAN! and I posted before the translation was added.

I wish I did speak more German than knowing that my handle means Dark Green, for this 'US-based but catering for the rest of the English-speaking world as well site' is always the poor relation as far is news is concerned. Remember the Dev update before Xmas - on the French site and never translated as promised.

Anyway, am jolly glad that the Spit IS included, along with everything else. Some of the a/c I might not have too much use for but it all adds to the fun.

Cheers!
PS Thanks for the translation MPortus.

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CO_Eagle_31stFG
02-04-2004, 07:56 AM
Good point Aeronautico.
These aren't free models as some are saying, they are getting paid a percentage. At $30 US dollars per copy, so saying the modelers are doing them for free holds no truth.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Fennec_P
02-04-2004, 08:04 AM
A percentage? To my knowledge they give a flat rate per mesh, depending on complexity.

Future-
02-04-2004, 08:21 AM
Sorry Dunkelgrun, it wasn't personal... It's just that many people here post something before they think, or even have read the entire thread.
And some of the "Spitwhiners" would whine anyway - either if the Spit wouldn't get included, or if it won't meet their expectations. I can already picture at least half a dozen threads "spitfire this, spitfire that" about things that aren't as they were expected to be.
This probably won't be limited to the Spitfire alone...

While I welcome open discussions and informative postings about the game, I certainly hate mindless whines from people that think if they fly a certain plane they are unbeatable by default, but got their butts kicked instead.

... besides, I think this part of my posting here:

"...and I'm too stupid to read that my Spitfire will be there, buuu-huuuu, and this and that didn't see action......."

... was directed at somebody who clearly didn't read MPortus' posting where he said that the Spit will be there; instead this person started to whine and complain.

It wasn't you Dunkelgrun, so no need to feel targetted. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S!

- Future

Commanding Officer of the 530th Bomb Squad
380th Bomb Group 5th AF USAAF

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SpinSpinSugar
02-04-2004, 08:27 AM
Future-, agree totally with the "my plane should be uber" whining, which I expect in equal measure from Spitfire and P38 pilots after the publication of the AEP.

The depressing thing is I expect a lot of ignoramuses will just see the word "Spitfire" and not equate it to the delivered Mark, which, if we only get Mk.V variants, is a 1941 aircraft. Which I'm very pleased about being an early-war addict. But by 'eck there will be a few going down in flames on open DF servers against 44/45 craft and wondering why.

Cheers, SSS

p1ngu666
02-04-2004, 08:32 AM
gotta wonder why the spit isnt on the list tbfh. how many spit fans are there? few million tons worth. and i think hte add on is aimed at the american market... and its not posted on the site yet:\

i dont know about modelers deals, gibbage got paid for some of his work atleast. i think if a free model goes in a paid/profit add on the person should get paid.

SuspectSquirrel
02-04-2004, 08:45 AM
Hello, the features web page for the lining up Ace expansion luggage on-line are finite. "http://www.il2sturmovik.de/fb_addon_features.php The ADD on appears on 11 March and 24.95 euro will cost. Please it notes that an extension of deadline cannot be excluded at this time. In the airplane list still the English Spitfire is missing, on which the developers straight work. The Spitfire will be very probably in 2 versions flyable. Greetings, BB Contact Community manager cm@bluebyte.de"

It's from the German site.



Thank you,
Mr. Squirrel

Dunkelgrun
02-04-2004, 10:20 AM
Ok Future, no probs. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Cheers!

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KarayaEine
02-04-2004, 10:48 AM
Did someone say flyable 110?

Wheeeee! Excellent. I've been waiting for this one. Time to work up some night fighter missions.

Johann

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xenios
02-04-2004, 11:55 AM
I'll still buy the expansion because I want to stay in the game, and some of the planes interest me. But the two I was looking forward to the most, the Ju88 and B-25, didn't make the flyable list. I would have gladly waited for these cockpits to be finished. So how will these be added later? Will there be a free downloadable add-on later or will these be in Luthier's project? Anyone know?

carguy_
02-04-2004, 12:50 PM
YYYYEEEEESS!

Me110 WOOHOO!

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Future-
02-04-2004, 11:37 PM
@ xenios: Yes, the B-25 will receive it's interiors with a seperate downloadable patch, at least that's what I've heard.

About the Ju88, I only know it's being worked on, but I *think* it will also become available with a patch sometime in the future.

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SuomiPilotti
02-05-2004, 07:00 AM
Come on, who cares of that we didn‚¬īt get FLYABLE B-25?http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif We got many other cool planes!!!!!!!

Willie_Wombat
02-05-2004, 08:22 AM
My understanding is that some of the aircraft were begun before any payment was offered, that the modelers began their work in many cases without promise of pay and in many cases would have continued to complete their models even if no pay was forthcoming.

That's some great work folks and most good people aren't going to sit back and complain and whine about what is offered, but simply appreciate the effort involved and the love of the sport these folks have.

I think it would have been a cool idea to have some WWI models, fiction yes, but still a great idea. Stop crying and turn off the aircraft you don't want

Whiners, please, move on.

WW

[This message was edited by Willie_Wombat on Thu February 05 2004 at 08:50 AM.]

CO_Eagle_31stFG
02-05-2004, 08:40 AM
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Ummm yeah what he said there. I appreciate the effort (just wish they kept the effort to real non-fictional planes)

Give the fiction to Microsoft they like that sort of thing.
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[This message was edited by CO_Eagle_31stFG on Thu February 05 2004 at 07:57 AM.]

VW-IceFire
02-05-2004, 08:50 AM
This expansion pack is going to be great no matter what. I was hoping for some more maps but maybe we'll get those later. Leadspitter, you hit it on a nail...Dover, Italy, Malta, those would be great and tide alot of people over as well as give much added dimension to the game over what already exists...and it would give us an even better reason to have more stuff over the english channel (V-1's and Tempests for instance) as well as the home front of the Italian airforce.

If that comes in another 6 months...that'd be great. In the meantime, the P-63, the P-38, a Bf 110G-2, and AI B-25's will rock!

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VVS-Manuc
02-05-2004, 09:05 AM
flyable Bf 109 Z

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WOLFMondo
02-05-2004, 09:05 AM
Hmmm Tempest tipping V1'shttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Whats the score with the Tempest? I know the model and DM is done (which looks great) but is the cockpit done yet? i hope so, its really a forgotten a/c yet one of the UK's finest prop planes of WW2 IMO.

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Future-
02-05-2004, 11:25 AM
@ Eagle and Manuc: I don't know about the 109 Z, but all the other experimental planes we get made it at least to prototype phase.
So there is nothing "fictional" about them, except for the fact that we will see a lot more of them simultanously in the game than there were in real life... but then again, we also see a lot more Mk108s being used than they were used in real life, don't see anybody complainin' about that. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
To put this in short: you voiced your opinion, no need to repeat it, so stfu! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

@ SuomiPilotti: I guess that was meant to be a joke... cause A LOT PEOPLE WANT A FLYABLE B-25!
For example, the entire 380th BG wanted to switch over to B-25s... seems we have to change our plans there a little.
But again, I think you were just joking, just as I do now when I say:

Who cares about the Spitfire? Release the add-on now, Spitfire can be made available later! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

*takes cover* http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

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crazyivan1970
02-05-2004, 11:48 AM
I think some people simply forgot how to appriciate things... so sad http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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Obi_Kwiet
02-05-2004, 11:50 AM
We know for a fact that a flyable p-61 will be in there too. That list smels dated to me...

Lawn_Dart
02-05-2004, 07:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aeronautico:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lawn_Dart:
(...)
talented 3D modelers (who, I may add, are building these add-on aircraft for FREE)
(...)
quality 3D models take weeks of hard, dedicated work.
(...)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aircraft models in the add-on for free? Uh, you better think twice!
Sure they'd have done them for free for the inclusion in a free patch, but if they're going in a retail product, they're going to be paid. Be sure.

And there's only one modeller doing the job in few weeks: Gibbage (who is not always perfect apparently, given that 1C are retouching his Mk.V models). Otherwise, it's a matter of months: several, many months.

Aero

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well stated Aero. I am sure from my own feeble attempts at 3D modeling that any of the models approved by oleg have indeed taken more than a few weeks of work, but in my own defense I never used the word "few". I should have said "months", as it would have been much more appropriate for the amounts of work these talented folks have done, even on the simplest of levels (especially considering the total man-hours involved with not only modeling, but also testing and initial skinning).

It is my honest opinion, though, that these modelers DID do the work for free, even if Oleg or 1C has decided to reward their work after the fact (and that is and should be only between the Modelers and Oleg anyway, if that is the case). What I mean is, that none of these folks (that I have spoken to anyway) started their models for this game because of a promise of payment. They started them for free, and only due to a love of this game and perhaps respect for it's creator. If I make a skin for the community, I do so out of respect for my fellow players and a desire to improve upon one of the best games ever produced....not for money in the hopes it will be included in a future product. If I ever get paid, ...great!...but I would feel cheated if anyone then said the only reason I made that skin was to make money. THAT is why I said that they were building the add-on aircraft for free. If they initially began the projects on their own, without contract, then as far as I am concerned they did it for free. If they happen to get paid as a bonus, then more power to them!



To Eagle:
Since the introduction of IL-2 through FB and on to now, we have already received numerous totally free aircraft as well as enhancements to the game via numerous patches and upgrades...ALL for free. I personally cannot wait to buy my Aces packs, one for each computer, to hopefully support the future of this game and the inevitable free patches and upgrades that will follow for many months and perhaps years to come. Most other game companies would have started charging for add-ons long ago (heck, in the old days, Lucasarts would charge $30 each time they would add just 2 new planes for Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. Nothing was free). I think Oleg deserves more thanks for what he has essentially given to us, by creating such a great community of talented followers as a result of his personal dedication to an awesome game.

The Spitfire will come. It will be worth the wait...rest assured.

willyvic
02-05-2004, 07:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lawn_Dart:

The Spitfire will come. It will be worth the wait...rest assured.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeppers, I rest assured. I rest assured that we b paying from now on.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif. Not that that's a bad thing mind you. As I've stated before, we are hooked and will pay anything for our next fix. Street corner pushers should take lessons from IL....lmao.

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LEXX_Luthor
02-05-2004, 08:17 PM
I want Fb-109-Z

Good historical "what if" dynamic campaigns. Every plane ever made between 1935 and 1945 should be Flyable in The FB (that could be 500 flyable plane types)

And if you fly Fb109Z, for the first time the AI wing person/personette that is attached to you will never crash into you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

you may have to think about that one

For the FB simmer, who may need a hint:: AI planes can see in the dark, so AI wing persons/personettes don't need transparent canopy.



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CO_Eagle_31stFG
02-05-2004, 08:22 PM
Future-

posted 05-02-04 10:25
@ Eagle and Manuc: I don't know about the 109 Z, but all the other experimental planes we get made it at least to prototype phase.
So there is nothing "fictional" about them, except for the fact that we will see a lot more of them simultanously in the game than there were in real life... but then again, we also see a lot more Mk108s being used than they were used in real life, don't see anybody complainin' about that.
To put this in short: you voiced your opinion, no need to repeat it, so stfu!

**Future I only complain about the fictional birds. The 109z in particular as it never flew research it your self if you need proof.

And you can put your little "stfu" comment where the sun don't shine.

Future-
02-05-2004, 11:23 PM
"And you can put your little "stfu" comment where the sun don't shine."

As you wish, I just put it into the garage! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Give that 109 Z at least a fair chance.

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JR_Greenhorn
02-05-2004, 11:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
I want Fb-109-Z

Good historical "what if" dynamic campaigns. Every plane ever made between 1935 and 1945 should be Flyable in The FB (that could be 500 flyable plane types)

And if you fly Fb109Z, for the first time the AI wing person/personette that is attached to you will __never__ crash into you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree.

That's a good one by the way, but what do you do if the AI wing person/personette flys his/her half of the plane into something? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Can you break that other fuselage off and fly away?
Its not like it'd be your fault anyway.

BM357_Raven
02-06-2004, 12:28 AM
check it out ---&gt; http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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BM357_Raven
02-06-2004, 12:30 AM
naahhh I can't do that one...

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nutt3r
02-06-2004, 08:35 AM
could someone translate this please
"Neue Schiffe: Schlachtschiff Tirpitz, M-Boot, Zerst√¬∂rer Tashkent und Zerst√¬∂rer Typ 7/1944."

does it say that the tripitz willbe in the add-on i hope so http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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CO_Eagle_31stFG
02-06-2004, 09:32 AM
LOL Future.
We won't have much of a choice than to give it a chance since they made it. It will be very interesting to see the modelers opinion of how the bird might have flown if it would have been fully developed and tested.



As far as I go it's usage will be kept as a good ground target in case we want to recreate that bomb run that destroyed it, other than that for us it will remain unused.
Humm wondering if we can get a rebate offer for accepting the expansion with this bird $10 off lol J/K.

Extra note. 1C notify your modelers in the next version of the expansion it would be nice to get more aircraft and scenery for areas that were more used. Ie; bring in the a/c that was most used first, then if you want make a special edition for experimental a/c. I think everyone would like to see this sim encompass the entire war. I'm talking landable Carriers ( and all the aircarft which were able to land on them both allied and axis), and for crying out loud make all the bombers flyable http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Baltar
02-06-2004, 09:41 AM
I'm very disappointed by the lack of flyable B-25s and Spitfires....

I want my gunship damnit!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-06-2004, 10:05 AM
And where in the hell is the Lizard Killercraft? The males of The Race are very upset about this.

jamesdietz
02-06-2004, 07:28 PM
Abso;utely terrific news : The 110 & the Gladiator & the Cr-42! Wow Just think of the possibilities! With new Maps the Med - with new Brit Bombers = Night fighting...

Bo_Nidle
02-06-2004, 09:05 PM
Did anyone else besides me get a warm feeling,silly grin and start giggling as they looked through whats coming?

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