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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:49 AM
Hi all,

Once again my posts on this board have been deleted by Admin. This morning I posted a link to my new A65Ma cockpit layer download whilst other posts with links to skin file downloads, voids etc. for this plane remain un-deleted.

Admin is obviously operating a double standard on the UBI boards and I won't be posting here again.

Regards to all my friends on the board, I'll see you over at SimHQ.

S!

Aces

PS. I don't like being heavy-handedly threated with a ban!

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Message Edited on 11/05/0309:50AM by Aces_High_2

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:49 AM
Hi all,

Once again my posts on this board have been deleted by Admin. This morning I posted a link to my new A65Ma cockpit layer download whilst other posts with links to skin file downloads, voids etc. for this plane remain un-deleted.

Admin is obviously operating a double standard on the UBI boards and I won't be posting here again.

Regards to all my friends on the board, I'll see you over at SimHQ.

S!

Aces

PS. I don't like being heavy-handedly threated with a ban!

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Message Edited on 11/05/0309:50AM by Aces_High_2

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 11:09 AM
If you're still here Aces, why don't you PM Tully. Don't know what time in the morning you mean but I think he's here, he might know why.

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 11:21 AM
Hi m8,

I have been in correspondence with Tully. He's only doing his job as he see it but this is crazy. Without the efforts of others who give their time and talents (including my humble efforts) freely to the community then UBI doesn't have a community at all. I have allways found the members of this board friendly and helpfull and have no problems there but I'm not prepared to be threatened with a ban for posting information hopefully of interest to the community when more serious misdemeanors appear to go un-noticed and un-sanctioned.

Regards

Aces

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Tully__
11-05-2003, 11:28 AM
Unfortunately moderators are unable to provide 100% coverage, we just don't have the time. This means that some posts that should be attended to get missed.

This doesn't mean it's ok to post contrary to the terms of service or directions of the forum administrators.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 11:29 AM
Tully I have PM'd you my final thoughts on the matter which IMO is now closed.

Regards

Aces

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 11:30 AM
Hmmm... - I've been PMed & locked/deleted by the mods too posting about the leaked 1.2beta - seems it's their politics that anything concerning this subject is out of bonds & I respect that but as Oleg Maddox himself has been involved in a discussion regarding issues with the add-on it does appear somewhat contradictive. I'll leave it there & wait for the official package. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 12:32 PM
Yeah its ridiculous aces high especially for those who do alot of work in creation, tully removed my p51d screenshots from rogodins screenshot thredd too. Im hoping thunak will speak to him.

Its strange theres fighting arguing bashing posts but the second theres a zero cockpit picture even its deleted, BTW I did download it and it looks great aces high.

This place needs mods who post good threads not just lock them. No offense tully im sure someone told you to do what your doing but it pi$$ed me off too your alright on HL and fun to fly with.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:00 PM
M0NS wrote:
- Hmmm... - I've been PMed & locked/deleted by the
- mods too posting about the leaked 1.2beta - seems
- it's their politics that anything concerning this
- subject is out of bonds & I respect that but as Oleg
- Maddox himself has been involved in a discussion
- regarding issues with the add-on it does appear
- somewhat contradictive. I'll leave it there & wait
- for the official package. <img
-

Just because Oleg responded to posts that were in ORR does not mean that he condones the early release of the beta. There are so many posts about the leaked patch that the mod's have not caught them all (unless they plan to dedicate every waking moment to the forums). If Oleg had not responded to some of those threads, he would have been accused (by a vocal few) of dodging their pet issues so it is good that he responded. Oleg posted that he planned to change the composition of the beta testing team which seems to indicate that Oleg is still displeased by what happened.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:04 PM
rbstr44 wrote:
-
- M0NS wrote:
-- Hmmm... - I've been PMed & locked/deleted by the
-- mods too posting about the leaked 1.2beta - seems
-- it's their politics that anything concerning this
-- subject is out of bonds & I respect that but as Oleg
-- Maddox himself has been involved in a discussion
-- regarding issues with the add-on it does appear
-- somewhat contradictive. I'll leave it there & wait
-- for the official package. http://www.flugwerk.de/images/01k.jpg
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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:12 PM
I too can understand that Oleg's not pleased (to say the least) with the leaked beta - but - now it's here why not take advantage of it - it's inevetible that some things get missed by the official beta testers that do get noticed by loads of players now /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I still think ubi is overreacting to the leak by locking deleting anything that only reaks of the beta version. Now see what that's doing - good guys leaving /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Please come back Aces.....

An idea for Thurnak : Next poll ... should we (ubi mods) lock/delete?

I bet the answer will be a firm NO

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:29 PM
-- M0NS wrote:
[snip]
--- mods too posting about the leaked 1.2beta - seems
--- it's their politics that anything concerning this
[snip]

Maybe, I am missing your point because you use the word "politics" concerning the moderator actions. "Politics" is often considered a dirty word /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif , and we might get banned for even mentioning it here. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I presume you mean "policies" (I hope!).

Anyway, the official policy that the moderators are trying to enforce is to allow discussion of official 1C Maddox/Ubi patches, and to discourage the discussion and proliferation of leaked ones that 1C and Ubi deem counterproductive. It may not be exactly the policy that some in the "community" want; the moderators are caught in-between Ubi's policy and some of the community members' wishes which is a very difficult position. I am sure they do not relish putting the "Locked" on leaked patch news, and making those posters angry.

Here is that quote I mentioned.

<blockquote>
This means that we will change the part of beta team in future.

BM357_Disciple wrote:
- Oleg, what is your opinion on the beta being leaked
- already?
-
- I know there are many using it, and was really
- interested in hearing what you have to say about
- this?
-
-



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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 02:38 PM
Unfortunate. What we have here is a forum dedicated to IL2 that refuses to entertain discussion about IL2. The issue of what "IL2 topics" we may discuss is intolerable. The prediliction of some to toe the company line has gotten out of hand.

Aces, fair winds and clear skies to ya mate. Cya on a more serious and openminded board.





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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 03:11 PM
Okay chaps,

Thanks to all that have posted. Let's draw a line under this one. I've expressed my feelings on the matter and PM'd Tully. I bare no animosity to the mods. I guess they're trying to do their job under difficult circumstances but UBI's policy seems to me, as the old saying goes, like "trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted".

See you all around.

Best Regards to all

Aces

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 03:25 PM
You Guys are missing the point to this wole lockdown thing.
To put it simple, you recieved stolen property. from UBI (1C) . Now you come to their forums and rub it in thier face and expect them to treat you like it's OK because you found it on the net! This probably isn't even the final release. When the patch does come out ,you will probably complain because now the planes you flew in the beta 1.2 are different from the one's in the official release.

GET A GRIP! Don't you know the difference between right and wrong. You are in possesion of stolen property ,which is illeagal where I come from. Maybe I am wrong, maybe the country (wherever you live) promotes stealing software.

I know the patch will be a FREE download when it comes out. But that does not give you the right to have this beta 1.2 in your hands and rub it in their face ,just because one of their beta testers gave it to someone. I am sure all the beta testers sign a Non disclosure aggrement which prohibites them from distributing the beta software.
Someone is going to be in DEEP SH@T.

So the moral of the story is QUIT YOUR B@TCHING!

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 04:05 PM
rbstr44 wrote:
--- M0NS wrote:
- [snip]
(bla bla bla!)
- [snip]
-
- Maybe, I am missing your point because you use the
- word "politics" concerning the moderator actions.

yes I'm sorry - my brain melted down I guess. My point was that it seemed unclear wether or not (or perhaps when) we are allowed to discuss the 1.2 beta. Oleg & others are discussing it & we have a bug list that has not been locked yet & please let's keep it that way. I understand why AcesHigh was upset because of this - having spend hours on his artwork. But if it's policy then I'll respect that & leave it there.

Over & out.

S!

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Zayets
11-05-2003, 04:15 PM
Listen,I couldl care less about 1.2b , I did the same with 1.xb, I don't need them , but your stuff does not work here because UBI is really stupid thinking that this will prevent spreading this beta.Wht they are supposed to do with the leaked beta if is stolen property? Return it back to UBI once they dnld it? lets be serious! There's nothing written on that beta that this is property of UBI.The one who leaked it is the only one guilty of this. Be serious!And realistic.Wanna use the beta?Do it!I don't care,at least I will get more infos on what is coming in the patch,which is good if you ask me.
As for mods, you all remember thatwhen 1.1 leaked Ven was trying to copee with the posts here. Now , Tully is punished because he let Ven alone those days /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

EDIT : Aces , you were mad and is for that you said youll leave this board.Don't let the fury dictate your actions and dont make decisions when youre mad. Notlike youll regret ,but still... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Zayets out

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Message Edited on 11/05/03 04:17PM by Zayets

Message Edited on 11/06/0308:30PM by Tully__

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:03 PM
Zayets wrote:
Wht they are supposed to do
- with the leaked beta if is stolen property? Return
- it back to UBI once they dnld it? lets be
- serious! There's nothing written on that beta that
- this is property of UBI.The one who leaked it
- is the only one guilty of this.Be serious!And
- realistic.

I guess if you didn't know the 1.2 beta belonged to UBI it would be OK. If you didnt know it belonged to UBI I would also guess that you are dumb as a rock.

I never said if you have it dont use it. Just dont complain when they lock your thread because you are discussing it.

Message Edited on 11/06/0308:32PM by Tully__

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:21 PM
/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif this is really sad. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:31 PM
B.S._Lag wrote:
- You Guys are missing the point to this wole lockdown
- thing.
- To put it simple, you recieved stolen property.
- from UBI (1C) . Now you come to their forums and rub
- it in thier face and expect them to treat you like
- it's OK because you found it on the net! This
- probably isn't even the final release. When the
- patch does come out ,you will probably complain
- because now the planes you flew in the beta 1.2 are
- different from the one's in the official release.

Yep, that is 100% correct.

Apart from the point that not everyone who has said things about the leaked patch or things related to it have entered into an agreement with Ubi, ie. they are not in possession of the patch, officially or otherwise.

I know that is certainly the case for myself, and I cannot be the only one.

Ultimately, Euro_Snoopy and Tully have a job to do to their employers satisfaction, and in the case of the patch leak and the forums, everyone suffers as a result.

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Message Edited on 11/05/0304:43PM by NegativeGee

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:40 PM
Relax Ace, I feel your pain. We are all storeing our thought, pictures and concerns about the next IL2 upgrade.

From what I've heard there is aready a movie underway depicting planes from the upgrade.

Many people have already begun repaining skins, creating missions, ect ect.. and it is the life of this community to share.

But I do what I want with my stuff, and Ubi does what they want with their stuff.

Just be patient, hang in their, our time will come, bro.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 05:43 PM
Gentlemen please,

Yes, I readily admit that I was angry with, IMO, UBI's short-sighted policy but I never intended this post to devlop into a heated debate.

I've said my piece and made my choice and that's it plain and simple. I'm sorry that UBI has adopted their current stance, far better IMO to have accepted that the patch is out leaked or otherwise and embrace the efforts of those seeking to add to the enjoyment of the patch than appear to be in denial, still that's their perogative.

The wallet story ammused me as the other morning on the way into work a schoolboy walking ahead of me appeared to have dropped his wallet. I picked it up and it was the plastic wallet containing his travel pass. I caught him up and attempted to return it to him only to find it was just the outer sleeve and he told me "f%" off, I've just thrown it away".

Please let the matter drop, there's little more of any constructive value to add.

Best Regards

Aces

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 06:05 PM
Man, school kids are that nasty? Should have told him to #$%^# off! I was just trying to be nice!" then beat the punk's *** down.

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 06:13 PM
I think this whole Patch leak sucks and thats the thanks UBI gets from users who have this patch.I think UBI deserves better than this after giving us such a great game.

My only concern is I can not get on to any of the old servers on HL due to the fact I do not have the patch....Well good luck to those guys who I may not meet till I have the official patch.... Cause when we meet again I'll kick BUTT's

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 06:21 PM
Aces_High_2 wrote:
- Gentlemen please,
-
- Yes, I readily admit that I was angry with, IMO,
- UBI's short-sighted policy but I never intended this
- post to devlop into a heated debate.


Yeah right....

Why did you post at all then? Were you hoping for a virtual going away party?

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11-05-2003, 06:48 PM
What was the question again?

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 07:08 PM
I'm not going to play your flame-game Lucky Skunk, nice try m8.

Aces out

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 07:31 PM
You're still here?

Aces_High_2 wrote:
- I'm not going to play your flame-game Lucky Skunk,
- nice try m8.
-
- Aces out
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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 07:34 PM
I agree with leadspitter.

BTW, I dont remember going through this BS when 1.1b came out. I was able to post new shots with no problem and i dont think any of my community art contributions affected Ubi's pocket

Definitly not our fault they can't control their beta testers

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Zayets
11-05-2003, 07:34 PM
B.S._Lag wrote:
- Zayets wrote:
- Wht they are supposed to do
-- with the leaked beta if is stolen property? Return
-- it back to UBI once they dnld it? lets be
-- serious! There's nothing written on that beta that
-- this is property of UBI.The one who leaked it
-- is the only one guilty of this. Don't tell me
-- that if an armored car blows up in the front of your
-- house you will return every fecken bill you've
-- collected.Be serious!And realistic.
-
- I guess if you didn't know the 1.2 beta belonged to
- UBI it would be OK. If you didnt know it belonged to
- UBI I would also guess that you are dumb as a rock.

Lag,
If my arse wouldn't be a proud piece of my alcoholic body , I may be tempted to let ya kiss it. I don't want to know , can you understand that? If I have a link sayind download this stuff , for sure I will do it. If A FILE , WHATEVER! will say this is property and blabla , then I will obey.Until then, you are the clown of the town.

- I never said if you have it dont use it. Just dont
- complain when they lock your thread because you are
- discussing it.

I don't. And I don't care.

- If an armored car blew up in front of my house,
- would I return the money? For me I probably would.

This is the proof that I was right when I told everybody yuore an idiot.

- Here's another scenario:
- Let's say a friend of yours dropped his wallet out
- on the street in front of your house and you found
- it, but the money inside it did not have his name on
- it. Does that give you the right to keep the money?
- Would you keep the money? After all, it doesn't have
- his name on it! Does it?

Your intelligence hurts me.Bad. How do I know is my friend's wallet?Maybe because his papers are in , right? Then it is his property,eh?Go fish somewhere else,scout boy.


Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:00 PM
All of this leaked crap is on the head of the one who leaked it. I don't think they can pinpoint exactly who it was, so the whole beta testing team will probably be cut off and a new one assembled, which sucks for the innocent ones of the currently assembled team.

You can't blame the mods for locking threads talking about a patch that hasn't been officially released yet, they are only doing ubi's bidding, as is their job. If you're angry about thread locking/deleting, take your gripe to ubi. Don't think they will hear you though.

Finally, if you get PO'd enough to leave the forums here, please stop by and fill the form that Lucky Skunk put together. It might give us all something to laugh about before you leave. S!

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:12 PM
Zayets wrote:
Lag,
- If my arse wouldn't be a proud piece of my alcoholic
- body , I may be tempted to let ya kiss it. I don't
- want to know , can you understand that? If I have a
- link sayind download this stuff , for sure I will do
- it. If A FILE , WHATEVER! will say this is property
- and blabla , then I will obey.Until then, you are
- the clown of the town.

Judging by your response towards my post, It is obvious to me , you are either too DUMB or to juvenile to understand my post. Maybe somebody can help you understand it.Maybe for your 13th birthday you can buy a dictionary too.
By the way? Does your mommy know that you are on the computer?

Zayets
11-05-2003, 08:15 PM
B.S._Lag wrote:
...whatever


Why,you are 14?

Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:19 PM
Zayets wrote:
Why,you are 14?

That is one amazing comeback

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:22 PM
I once heard someone define "Character" as "what a person does at a moral crossroad in life when they believe no one is watching them."

Just worth thinking about.

Personally, I'd have to return the money. I don't think I could enjoy it, knowing that it was somebody else's dosh.

My 2 worth

- Zayets wrote:
- Lag,
-- If my arse wouldn't be a proud piece of my alcoholic
-- body , I may be tempted to let ya kiss it. I don't
-- want to know , can you understand that? If I have a
-- link sayind download this stuff , for sure I will do
-- it. If A FILE , WHATEVER! will say this is property
-- and blabla , then I will obey.Until then, you are
-- the clown of the town.




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Zayets
11-05-2003, 08:24 PM
B.S._Lag wrote:

- That is one amazing comeback


Yeah!I'm da man!

Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:42 PM
I don't like his ID. This is Forgotten Battles forum. Go back to your home /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif


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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:58 PM
Striker-PBNA wrote:
- All of this leaked crap is on the head of the one
- who leaked it. I don't think they can pinpoint
- exactly who it was, so the whole beta testing team
- will probably be cut off and a new one assembled,
- which sucks for the innocent ones of the currently
- assembled team.
-
- You can't blame the mods for locking threads talking
- about a patch that hasn't been officially released
- yet, they are only doing ubi's bidding, as is their
- job. If you're angry about thread locking/deleting,
- take your gripe to ubi. Don't think they will hear
- you though.
-
- Finally, if you get PO'd enough to leave the forums
- here, please stop by and fill the form that Lucky
- Skunk put together. It might give us all something
- to laugh about before you leave. S!
-
-

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 08:59 PM
First, Sorry to see you go Aces High! You make some nice stuff.

Second, Why do we hang out here?? There are other boards that allow discussion without critical censorship.

Third, I like the guy that said "We Should Be thankful for what UBI/Oleg has given us." Huh?? Get a clue!! They didn't give me anything. I bought IL2 and FB and will buy the Update. They owe me what the intended warranty on the box said. That's all. They don't owe me squat else. I certainly don't owe them anything!! Nada, Zip, Nil. Upgrades are in their financial "Best Intrest". We supply their livelyhood by buying their game. If the game becomes second-rate or sub-standard we the buying public go elsewhere. Fact is, when I downloaded the 1.2 Beta I didn't know it was "stolen", "leaked", or whatever. I thought it was the "Real McCoy". I've been waiting on the Pony for a long time. I couldn't wait to see and fly it. I'm human after all!! I didn't check the IL2 Home Page until later. Hey NVIDIA has made a career out of their "Leaked Drivers" to a Free Beta Testing audience. Saves them dollars. It is certainly not out of the realm of thinking to wonder if the 1.2 Beta was "leaked" on purpose.

Anyway, if we're not statisfied here, lets take this to another forum and turn this place into a ghost town. No one forces us to stay.

I further agree that at this time, the best thing would be to fully test the Beta. Turn a negative into a positive. Garner the information and bug reports and make the actual real release a much bigger success.

Reagards, My $.02
Duff4r

DayGlow
11-05-2003, 09:03 PM
Lucky_Skunk wrote:
- I once heard someone define "Character" as "what a
- person does at a moral crossroad in life when they
- believe no one is watching them."
-
- Just worth thinking about.
-
- Personally, I'd have to return the money. I don't
- think I could enjoy it, knowing that it was somebody
- else's dosh.
-
- My 2 worth
-
-- Zayets wrote:
-- Lag,
--- If my arse wouldn't be a proud piece of my alcoholic
--- body , I may be tempted to let ya kiss it. I don't
--- want to know , can you understand that? If I have a
--- link sayind download this stuff , for sure I will do
--- it. If A FILE , WHATEVER! will say this is property
--- and blabla , then I will obey.Until then, you are
--- the clown of the town.
-
-

Exactly.
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adlabs6
11-05-2003, 09:30 PM
Aces_High_2 wrote:
- Hi all,
-
- Once again my posts on this board have been deleted
- by Admin. This morning I posted a link to my new
- A65Ma cockpit layer download whilst other posts with
- links to skin file downloads, voids etc. for this
- plane remain un-deleted.
-
- Admin is obviously operating a double standard on
- the UBI boards and I won't be posting here again.

I saw that Zero skin release thread, and it's still here. I see no difference in announcing a skin or a cockpit, if one is wrong the other is too. I have considered repeatedly bumping that other thread until it gets similar treatment, but I've never been one to make trouble around here, and I've got no personal problems with the artist, so I won't do it. Sorry your posts were deleted Aces_High, your work is great stuff.

BTW, this divisive activity is one of my problems with this leaked beta mess. It's got nothing to do with "stealing" because if Oleg really cared about this he could dump the leaky beta team and start anew. But it's this end result that is the real kicker. HL is divided into haves and have nots, and the forums are divided into the "can post" and the "can't post". It would seem that a consistent plan needs to be given to anyone modding here. At least that would tend to create less animosity towards the mods.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 09:45 PM
B.S._Lag wrote:
- Zayets wrote:
- Why,you are 14?
-
- That is one amazing comeback
-
-

No,I'm fifteen and Mom doesnt care if I use the computer, why aren't you in school. Look I dont go to where to work and slap the french fries outta your hand so dont come here and mess with us aces.

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 09:47 PM
"Anyway, if we're not statisfied here, lets take this to another forum and turn this place into a ghost town. No one forces us to stay."



Please do so. Most of the people here who knock Ubi, Oleg or whatever just dont like the fact that their "hard earned dollar" goes to a Russian. They obviously make better flight sims so there is a chance they made better planes.

Maybe this game has made you open a book about the Eastern Front for the first time in your lives (like me) and you came away with the knowledge you did not know as much about WW2 as you always gave yourself credit for.

Maybe years of American Propoganda has left you with the idea that the 6000-7000 deadbeet planes we gave them won the war and not the 117,000 combat aircraft they made for themselves.

Maybe you have found out the Russians held the Germans at Moscow before a bomb was ever dropped on Pearl Harbor.

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 09:49 PM
I haven't gotten that feeling at all. Are you just bashing USA or have something other than an ax to grind?


Adlerangriff wrote:
- "Anyway, if we're not statisfied here, lets take
- this to another forum and turn this place into a
- ghost town. No one forces us to stay."
-
-
-
- Please do so. Most of the people here who knock
- Ubi, Oleg or whatever just dont like the fact that
- their "hard earned dollar" goes to a Russian. They
- obviously make better flight sims so there is a
- chance they made better planes.
-
- Maybe this game has made you open a book about the
- Eastern Front for the first time in your lives (like
- me) and you came away with the knowledge you did not
- know as much about WW2 as you always gave yourself
- credit for.
-
- Maybe years of American Propoganda has left you with
- the idea that the 6000-7000 deadbeet planes we gave
- them won the war and not the 117,000 combat aircraft
- they made for themselves.
-
- Maybe you have found out the Russians held the
- Germans at Moscow before a bomb was ever dropped on
- Pearl Harbor.
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 09:57 PM
Adlerangriff wrote:

- Most of the people here who knock
- Ubi, Oleg or whatever just dont like the fact that
- their "hard earned dollar" goes to a Russian. They
- obviously make better flight sims so there is a
- chance they made better planes.
-

Oh good lord, here we go....

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 09:58 PM
I am not surprised you did not get that feeling. You did not make the arrogant assumption a few of you going to another board could turn this on into a Ghost Town.

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:00 PM
I thought that any discussion about stuff in the leaked 1.2 beta is closed automatically?


anyways, goodbye.

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2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye
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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:01 PM
- Adlerangriff wrote:
-- (snip) Most of the people here who knock
-- Ubi, Oleg or whatever just dont like the fact that
-- their "hard earned dollar" goes to a Russian. They
-- obviously make better flight sims so there is a
-- chance they made better planes.
--
-- Maybe this game has made you open a book about the
-- Eastern Front for the first time in your lives (like
-- me) and you came away with the knowledge you did not
-- know as much about WW2 as you always gave yourself
-- credit for.
--
-- Maybe years of American Propoganda has left you with
-- the idea that the 6000-7000 deadbeet planes we gave
-- them won the war and not the 117,000 combat aircraft
-- they made for themselves.

Hey Mods!


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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:02 PM
Aces_High_2 wrote:
- Hi all,
-
- Once again my posts on this board have been deleted
- by Admin. This morning I posted a link to my new
- A65Ma cockpit layer download whilst other posts with
- links to skin file downloads, voids etc. for this
- plane remain un-deleted.
-
- Admin is obviously operating a double standard on
- the UBI boards and I won't be posting here again.
-
- Regards to all my friends on the board, I'll see you
- over at SimHQ.
-
- S!
-
- Aces
-
- PS. I don't like being heavy-handedly threated with
- a ban!

Bud dont take it personal! Cuz it aint! The MOD's are just overwelmed with stuff to do.. ie not time to poke into the details of ever thread.. They just have to draw a line in the sand.. And any talk about the leaked beta is that line.. and your skins falls on the wrong side of that line! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif But please, dont take it personal! Please stay and contribute here!!


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<marquee><h3>If WAR was not the ANSWER........ Than what the H was your QUESTION?</h3></marquee>
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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:02 PM
You have to sink so low as to impersonate me? What a waste.

Zayets
11-05-2003, 10:04 PM
B.S.Lagg wrote:
-
- B.S._Lag wrote:
-- Zayets wrote:
-- Why,you are 14?
--
-- That is one amazing comeback
--
--
-
- No,I'm fifteen and Mom doesnt care if I use the
- computer, why aren't you in school. Look I dont go
- to where to work and slap the french fries outta
- your hand so dont come here and mess with us aces.
-
-

Hehehehe,you're funny...

Zayets out

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11-05-2003, 10:20 PM
forecast for ubi.com:

yet another storm in a teacup.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:25 PM
B.S._Lag wrote:
- You have to sink so low as to impersonate me? What a
- waste.


If I knew you'd rise to the occasion I wouldnt have to!
<insert smiley here>

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:28 PM
<S>Anybody who complains about how the moderators do their job gets banned.</S>

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Zayets
11-05-2003, 10:29 PM
He's alive!Oh my gosh!He's alive!
And what's funny is that he answer to himself , hehehehe. What a narcisistic guy we have here.I bet you like listening yourself , ain't you?

Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:34 PM
tagert, your sig is too wide. Correct plz.

15" lcd at office can't show it all and generates ugly horizontal scorll bar.

What the H does your sig mean? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I recommend this size. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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11-05-2003, 10:35 PM
Drop it C or I will ban you...sign on under another user name again and you're getting the vacation

It's not funny


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- B.S._Lag wrote:
-- You have to sink so low as to impersonate me? What a
-- waste.
-
-
- If I knew you'd rise to the occasion I wouldnt have
- to!
- <insert smiley here>
-
-



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Zayets
11-05-2003, 10:49 PM
Hunter82 wrote:
- Drop it C or I will ban you...sign on under another
- user name again and you're getting the vacation
-
- It's not funny
-
-
- B.S.Lagg wrote:


Hah!
Was that commie?You %^#$@^&^%#!!!!

Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 12:00 AM
Duff4r wrote:
- ... I like the guy that said "We Should Be
- thankful for what UBI/Oleg has given us." Huh??
- Get a clue!! They didn't give me anything. I
- bought IL2 and FB and will buy the Update. They owe
- me what the intended warranty on the box said.
- That's all. They don't owe me squat else. I
- certainly don't owe them anything!! Nada, Zip, Nil.
- Upgrades are in their financial "Best Intrest". We
- supply their livelyhood by buying their game. If
- the game becomes second-rate or sub-standard we the
- buying public go elsewhere. Fact is, when I
- downloaded the 1.2 Beta I didn't know it was
- "stolen", "leaked", or whatever. I thought it was
- the "Real McCoy". I've been waiting on the Pony for
- a long time. I couldn't wait to see and fly it.
- I'm human after all!! I didn't check the IL2 Home
- Page until later. Hey NVIDIA has made a career out
- of their "Leaked Drivers" to a Free Beta Testing
- audience. Saves them dollars. It is certainly not
- out of the realm of thinking to wonder if the 1.2
- Beta was "leaked" on purpose.
-
-


UBI doesn't have, And NEVER had any Clue about marketing. Total incompetents in that regard. The two girls named in the FB manual, as the so-called "marketing" team, Clearly don't have a clue as to hat they are doing.

Oleg's great product has beat out the competition simply because it is the best WWII flight sim ever, and they kicked Micro$0ft's A$$. A Lot of word-of-mouth marketing from members of teh community helped.

Meanwhile, UBI didn't even make a Half-A$$ed attempt to promote FB Sales...Most of us are well aware of the fact that most retailers don't
know a thing about IL2 or IL2:FB...

UBI, via these forums, has been given Many good marketing ideas....but they are totally asleep at the wheel, with exception of censoring and closing threads on their so-called forums( model T Ford forums, in terms of performance and reliability)...they are a joke, and clearly dont have a CLUE as to the value of the great community skinners, like Aces high.

IMHO

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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 12:23 AM
It would be foolish of Ubi to spend time marketing and advertising a flight sim of any kind. We represent less than 1/2% of the gaming market. We find good flight sims, they dont find us.

XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 12:43 AM
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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 01:06 AM
Sorry to see you go Ace,/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif been to you're site many times and enjoy all you've done for FB, I look forward too any future updates to you're good work. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 01:18 AM
B.S._Lag wrote:
- You Guys are missing the point to this wole lockdown
- thing.
- To put it simple, you recieved stolen property.
- from UBI (1C) . Now you come to their forums and rub
- it in thier face and expect them to treat you like
- it's OK because you found it on the net! This
- probably isn't even the final release. When the
- patch does come out ,you will probably complain
- because now the planes you flew in the beta 1.2 are
- different from the one's in the official release.
-
-
- GET A GRIP! Don't you know the difference between
- right and wrong. You are in possesion of stolen
- property ,which is illeagal where I come from. Maybe
- I am wrong, maybe the country (wherever you live)
- promotes stealing software.
-
- I know the patch will be a FREE download when it
- comes out. But that does not give you the right to
- have this beta 1.2 in your hands and rub it in their
- face ,just because one of their beta testers gave it
- to someone. I am sure all the beta testers sign a
- Non disclosure aggrement which prohibites them from
- distributing the beta software.
- Someone is going to be in DEEP SH@T.
-
- So the moral of the story is QUIT YOUR B@TCHING!
-
- now i see why you call yourself b.s,what a bunch of b.s,
cheers.
-
-
-



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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 02:21 AM
Whoa, I am suprised this hasnt been locked earlier.


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11-06-2003, 02:38 AM
Adlerangriff wrote:
- "Anyway, if we're not statisfied here, lets take
- this to another forum and turn this place into a
- ghost town. No one forces us to stay."
-
-
-
- Please do so. Most of the people here who knock
- Ubi, Oleg or whatever just dont like the fact that
- their "hard earned dollar" goes to a Russian. They
- obviously make better flight sims so there is a
- chance they made better planes.
-
- Maybe this game has made you open a book about the
- Eastern Front for the first time in your lives (like
- me) and you came away with the knowledge you did not
- know as much about WW2 as you always gave yourself
- credit for.
-
- Maybe years of American Propoganda has left you with
- the idea that the 6000-7000 deadbeet planes we gave
- them won the war and not the 117,000 combat aircraft
- they made for themselves.
-
- Maybe you have found out the Russians held the
- Germans at Moscow before a bomb was ever dropped on
- Pearl Harbor.
-
-Awwww Come on now??? You got Russian Bashing out of that comment? I am sad for you. YOUR Prejudice is Glaring/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Get well soon. Life is too short for such anger!

Disgustedly,

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