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pacmanate
04-06-2012, 11:03 PM
You guys no what I am talking about. Why all this talk of live streams from various sources about AC gameplay where there is NONE!?!

LightRey
04-06-2012, 11:06 PM
I love how everybody's raging over this. xD

CrazySN
04-06-2012, 11:07 PM
What bothers me is that Ubisoft isn't stating if they're going to show gameplay to the public or not. It's as if they want their fans to get disappointed...

pacmanate
04-06-2012, 11:07 PM
I love how everybody's raging over this. xD

Dude dont act like you aren't disappointed. I know you made that Tea to help keep you awake

frogger504
04-06-2012, 11:07 PM
Oh yeah it's 6.

So what ever happened? Is it being shown at PAX right now?

Captain Tomatoz
04-06-2012, 11:08 PM
I don't actually recall Ubisoft or anyone actually talking about gameplay specifically. People just assumed it would be gameplay.

kriegerdesgottes
04-06-2012, 11:09 PM
One lesson I have learned from Ubisoft over the years. Never expect to see gameplay when you think you should. You just might be disappointed.

pacmanate
04-06-2012, 11:09 PM
Oh yeah it's 6.

So what ever happened? Is it being shown at PAX right now?

Nope various places have even stated that gameplay would be shown at that time. However I think one person said it and then it just spread like a virus everywhere. It is annoying though :\

morpheusPrime08
04-06-2012, 11:09 PM
I love how everybody's raging over this. xD

Your not pissed, they hyped the stream up and all it was is 30 min of old questions

SleezeRocker
04-06-2012, 11:11 PM
The gameplay is so AWEsome that they just could not show it today (or tomorrow in my tense since some of you guys already cross the next day :P) and will wait to show us until E3.

Hey, save the best for last right?

LightRey
04-06-2012, 11:12 PM
I don't actually recall Ubisoft or anyone actually talking about gameplay specifically. People just assumed it would be gameplay.
Pretty much this.


Your not pissed, they hyped the stream up and all it was is 30 min of old questions
No, we hyped the steam up. They did nothing. All our info came from unverified sources.

frogger504
04-06-2012, 11:12 PM
So, just more interview questions?

SleezeRocker
04-06-2012, 11:15 PM
So, just more interview questions?


Yup, like what is the new Assasisn's name :P
lol jk

HD RoLoS v
04-06-2012, 11:16 PM
It said on GameInformer that gameplay was confirmed but obvisoulsy not :(. So sad right now

pacmanate
04-06-2012, 11:17 PM
Kinda off topic but I still cant believe people think the hidden blade isn't in.

And this thread isn't about Ubisoft trolling us. Its whatever our sources were, like the "credible" AC wiki which has annoyed me.

Tetsou88
04-06-2012, 11:19 PM
Pretty much this.


No, we hyped the steam up. They did nothing. All our info came from unverified sources.

Like we don't have people working for Ubisoft constantly on the forums? The topic saying there was going to be gameplay has existed for two days. Within those two days Shade, or anyone else could've said "No, there wont be gameplay". But they didn't say anything. They just let us sit there and get hyped. Our anger is justified.

LightRey
04-06-2012, 11:20 PM
Are we sure there is no gameplay at all? I'm pretty sure they're showing gameplay at PAX. It's just not being streamed.


Like we don't have people working for Ubisoft constantly on the forums? The topic saying there was going to be gameplay has existed for two days. Within those two days Shade, or anyone else could've said "No, there wont be gameplay". But they didn't say anything. They just let us sit there and get hyped. Our anger is justified.
The people who are on the forums are likely given very little details and are probably under strict "orders" as well to not say anything about certain things. The few others like UbiGabe that have a little more freedom in that respect were obviously busy at PAX themselves.

pacmanate
04-06-2012, 11:21 PM
I think someone interpreted the gameinformer article wrong.... http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...-pax-east.aspx




"Assassin's Creed III won't be playable, but Ubisoft is giving a live gameplay demonstration at the publisher's booths at 824 and 836 at the Boston Convention and Exhibition Center April 6-8."




I think people thought that live gameplay automatically meant live streaming, which of course it doesn't. Then that just spread everywhere.

kriegerdesgottes
04-06-2012, 11:21 PM
Are we sure there is no gameplay at all? I'm pretty sure they're showing gameplay at PAX. It's just not being streamed.

I think this is true. We will prob see it later tonight or tomorrow.

LightRey
04-06-2012, 11:25 PM
I think someone interpreted the gameinformer article wrong.... http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...-pax-east.aspx




"Assassin's Creed III won't be playable, but Ubisoft is giving a live gameplay demonstration at the publisher's booths at 824 and 836 at the Boston Convention and Exhibition Center April 6-8."




I think people thought that live gameplay automatically meant live streaming, which of course it doesn't. Then that just spread everywhere.
Yea, that's what I figured. I don't think it was filmed either (unless someone snuck in a camera), so don't expect any videos.

pacmanate
04-06-2012, 11:27 PM
Here's some new info, apparently Ubisoft DID post there was gameplay.


There's no need for any disrespect. We are here to provide a service to the community. We were under the assumption that our sources were correct. The info was posted on Ubisoft's Twitter, then swiftly removed. Posted on Insert Coin Clothing's twitter, then swiftly removed. And on another few British Games Jounalist's twitter accounts and then swiftly removed. We were all led astray. Not just you. But still, you have our apologies. -The Assassin's Creed Wiki Team

Tetsou88
04-06-2012, 11:28 PM
Are we sure there is no gameplay at all? I'm pretty sure they're showing gameplay at PAX. It's just not being streamed.


The people who are on the forums are likely given very little details and are probably under strict "orders" as well to not say anything about certain things. The few others like UbiGabe that have a little more freedom in that respect were obviously busy at PAX themselves.

Like they wouldn't communicate with the Community Managers whether or not there would be gameplay. I doubt it was a secret. They just wanted people to tune into the Fragdolls website, considering the Fragdolls belong to Ubisoft.


The assassin's creed wiki is more apologetic than Ubisoft is.

AVVSOM3
04-06-2012, 11:32 PM
Ubisoft never confirmed any gameplay. They didnīt troll us, Wiki or GI mistook themselves for Live Streaming instead of a Live Demo.

LightRey
04-06-2012, 11:33 PM
Here's some new info, apparently Ubisoft DID post there was gameplay.


There's no need for any disrespect. We are here to provide a service to the community. We were under the assumption that our sources were correct. The info was posted on Ubisoft's Twitter, then swiftly removed. Posted on Insert Coin Clothing's twitter, then swiftly removed. And on another few British Games Jounalist's twitter accounts and then swiftly removed. We were all led astray. Not just you. But still, you have our apologies. -The Assassin's Creed Wiki Team
Again, who said there wasn't any gameplay? It wasn't streamed. Nobody official said it would be streamed.

frogger504
04-06-2012, 11:33 PM
I'm still not phased by it, wasn't affected in the least.

AdamXEve
04-06-2012, 11:34 PM
Cancel your pre-orders! This is the UBIBROS REVOLUTION! We will be free from the Tyranny of UbiSoft Montreal. LOL WAT? Something from Canada ruling anything? **** capitalism.


Again, who said there wasn't any gameplay? It wasn't streamed. Nobody official said it would be streamed.

He just said that Ubisoft themselves said it on Twitter.

Tetsou88
04-06-2012, 11:34 PM
Ubisoft never confirmed any gameplay. They didnīt troll us, Wiki or GI mistook themselves for Live Streaming instead of a Live Demo.


The info was posted on Ubisoft's Twitter


Like I stated earlier. They browse these forums, they knew what we were expecting, and yet they said diddly squat.

I've also pointed out that Ubisoft has ruined several franchises, and is generally hated by the PC community.

KillGhast
04-06-2012, 11:35 PM
the mods at fragdolls said: gameplay in 30 minutes
they made everyone think it would start then, it did start but only at pax
afterwards they went: sorry we don't know where it's going to be streamed

C3G Jester
04-06-2012, 11:37 PM
I love how everybody's raging over this. xD

We may have our differences but this is one I share with you lol.

AVVSOM3
04-06-2012, 11:37 PM
I am never gonna watch FragDolls again.

AdamXEve
04-06-2012, 11:38 PM
I am never gonna watch FragDolls again.

Then you should also never buy a Ubisoft game again; that's what I'm doing-at least not directly from Ubisoft. EBAY.

Tetsou88
04-06-2012, 11:39 PM
Then you should also never buy a Ubisoft game again; that's what I'm doing-at least not directly from Ubisoft. EBAY.

Get it used from Gamestop.

AdamXEve
04-06-2012, 11:39 PM
Or that!

thekarlone
04-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Their new name is FragTrolls. And #Ubitroll.

frogger504
04-06-2012, 11:44 PM
Oh My Gah! It was recorded on YouTube Already?!

Watching before linking.

Tetsou88
04-06-2012, 11:45 PM
Oh My Gah! It was recorded on YouTube Already?!

Watching before linking.

Link first. Watch later.

TheHumanTowel
04-06-2012, 11:46 PM
The problem is people hyped the stream up like gameplay was going to be shown with very little evidence. That said Ubisoft did nothing to confirm/deny they would release gameplay to the public and the Fragdoll mods were incredibly misleading.

UrDeviant1
04-06-2012, 11:51 PM
Oh My Gah! It was recorded on YouTube Already?!

Watching before linking.

bull****

Sushiglutton
04-06-2012, 11:55 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29124547/assassins-creed-iii-pax-east-demo-premiere-thread-?msg_id=336208137#336208137 in game screen shot.

freddie_1897
04-06-2012, 11:55 PM
Your pissing me off frogger

GeneralTrumbo
04-06-2012, 11:58 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29124547/assassins-creed-iii-pax-east-demo-premiere-thread-?msg_id=336208137#336208137 in game screen shot.
love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tetsou88
04-06-2012, 11:59 PM
Your pissing me off frogger

Frogger is either trolling us, or it's a power play. "I have video, but I'm not going to share it"

sticks165
04-06-2012, 11:59 PM
just saw a screenshot :)

GeneralTrumbo
04-07-2012, 12:02 AM
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2012/14/1333747982-AC3_PaxEast_FINAL_Stereo_Low.wmv_snapshot_04.15_20 12.04.06_23.32.28.jpg

GeneralTrumbo
04-07-2012, 12:03 AM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/561041_380114798695827_207012852672690_1124499_486 530912_n.jpg

AnthonyA85
04-07-2012, 12:03 AM
Hm, not sure i like the UI flipped, i'm used to having the mini-map on the bottom right corner when i'm playing games like this.

TheHumanTowel
04-07-2012, 12:04 AM
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2012/14/1333747982-AC3_PaxEast_FINAL_Stereo_Low.wmv_snapshot_04.15_20 12.04.06_23.32.28.jpg
Gentle Push confirmed :)

Captain Tomatoz
04-07-2012, 12:04 AM
Wow :O. They weren't kidding when they said there would be loads more NPCs on the screen

SixKeys
04-07-2012, 12:04 AM
Yeah, the mini-map looks huge and I don't get why they changed it to the left side.

akab211
04-07-2012, 12:05 AM
Great! Now I want to gentle push someone!

LightRey
04-07-2012, 12:07 AM
Gentle Push confirmed :)
xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc
Cuz that's what's important. xD

frogger504
04-07-2012, 12:14 AM
Where did you guys pull out these screenshots? Also, is it that hard for you guys to find the videos? Search within the last 24 hours and don't be dumb and post a link to that on a Ubisoft website. It will go down quicker if you shown them where it's at.

freddie_1897
04-07-2012, 12:14 AM
Where's frogger got to?
EDIT: oh, there he is!

JCearlyyears
04-07-2012, 12:16 AM
xD

Cuz that's what's important. xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkodfZ2KlJA&feature=player_embedded

mustash
04-07-2012, 12:18 AM
Where did you guys pull out these screenshots? Also, is it that hard for you guys to find the videos? Search within the last 24 hours and don't be dumb and post a link to that on a Ubisoft website. It will go down quicker if you shown them where it's at.

PM me the link

frogger504
04-07-2012, 12:18 AM
AC3 looks amazing.

morpheusPrime08
04-07-2012, 12:19 AM
PM me the link
Me to

MoneyForBoobs
04-07-2012, 12:19 AM
AC3 looks amazing.

ur trying for attention u bastard

AnthonyA85
04-07-2012, 12:20 AM
PM me the link

Ditto please.

LightRey
04-07-2012, 12:21 AM
AC3 looks amazing.
The lack of detailed descriptions or links make me suspect you are lying.

Tetsou88
04-07-2012, 12:23 AM
AC3 looks amazing.

Unless it's under some obscure name, you're lying.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=vid&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=611&q=assassin%27s+creed&gbv=2&oq=assassin%27s+creed&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=video-hp.12..0l10.5194l5194l0l6464l1l1l0l0l0l0l89l89l1l1 l0.llsin.#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&gbv=2&tbs=qdr:h&tbm=vid&sa=X&ei=7Xp_T8vEAYGW8gTk5uDPBw&ved=0CDQQBSgA&q=assassin%27s+creed&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=96dc4487e72c1618&biw=1366&bih=611

frogger504
04-07-2012, 12:26 AM
Unless it's under some obscure name, you're lying.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=vid&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=611&q=assassin%27s+creed&gbv=2&oq=assassin%27s+creed&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=video-hp.12..0l10.5194l5194l0l6464l1l1l0l0l0l0l89l89l1l1 l0.llsin.#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&gbv=2&tbs=qdr:h&tbm=vid&sa=X&ei=7Xp_T8vEAYGW8gTk5uDPBw&ved=0CDQQBSgA&q=assassin%27s+creed&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=96dc4487e72c1618&biw=1366&bih=611

Look at the last post of that thread of the GI forum.

MoneyForBoobs
04-07-2012, 12:30 AM
Look at the last post of that thread of the GI forum.

the re is nothin dont believe dis guy

mustash
04-07-2012, 12:31 AM
Look at the last post of that thread of the GI forum.

You're lieing to us, congrats

morpheusPrime08
04-07-2012, 12:35 AM
Shoulda known with a gayed name like frogger

frogger504
04-07-2012, 12:37 AM
Shoulda known with a gayed name like frogger

Yes that attitude will help you get stuff you want in life.

Also, Frogger is awesome!

mustash
04-07-2012, 12:39 AM
Yes that attitude will help you get stuff you want in life.

Also, Frogger is awesome!

Well, is there a reason you lied to us? Did you just fancy trolling us?

Jexx21
04-07-2012, 12:40 AM
Why is everyone pissed?

I skipped some reading I wanted to do today just because of the LiveStream because i thought there would be gameplay, but I'm not mad.

morpheusPrime08
04-07-2012, 12:44 AM
Yes that attitude will help you get stuff you want in life.

Also, Frogger is awesome!

Yup, cuz we all know being a lyer is a very good trait to have.

LightRey
04-07-2012, 12:45 AM
Why is everyone pissed?

I skipped some reading I wanted to do today just because of the LiveStream because i thought there would be gameplay, but I'm not mad.
people got caught up in the hype. It's all a bit ridiculous if you ask me. It's just a game and really those that are mad/disappointed have only themselves to blame for getting all hyped up by rumors.

frogger504
04-07-2012, 12:51 AM
Why is everyone pissed?

I skipped some reading I wanted to do today just because of the LiveStream because i thought there would be gameplay, but I'm not mad.

Speaking of which, what was said? What new info do we have?

sticks165
04-07-2012, 12:51 AM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m22zz29fOa1qhulkbo2_500.jpg

LightRey
04-07-2012, 12:54 AM
Speaking of which, what was said? What new info do we have?
Nothing new as far as I could tell.

frogger504
04-07-2012, 12:55 AM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m22zz29fOa1qhulkbo2_500.jpg

Who what where, how?

UrDeviant1
04-07-2012, 12:56 AM
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/142/tumblrm23083c52y1r6jpsl.png

Cool pic. :rolleyes:

sticks165
04-07-2012, 12:57 AM
Who what where, how?

fragdolls chatbox also its on AC turkeys facebook

souNdwAve89
04-07-2012, 12:57 AM
Well, I live on the west coast, so I was at work while this was going on. To be honest, I am not mad, sad, etc. Reading the demo description that was published a couple of days ago was enough to satisfy my curiosity. I mean, I am excited to see it with my own eyes, but I can wait still.

JCearlyyears
04-07-2012, 12:58 AM
people got caught up in the hype. It's all a bit ridiculous if you ask me. It's just a game and really those that are mad/disappointed have only themselves to blame for getting all hyped up by rumors.

Luckily for me, I don't feel anything so I didn't get hyped up. :)

rileypoole1234
04-07-2012, 01:00 AM
Guys... I saw gameplay. I looked in the Ubi (I don't know what to call it) thing and Connor was walking behind a rock, and there was a massive army coming into view from the right.


That's when a guy told me I wasn't aloud in and to get out.

Tetsou88
04-07-2012, 01:00 AM
Who what where, how?

You should know. You saw the "video" Or were you just lying, considering you've changed your tune.


Anyways the video is supposedly imminent.

JCearlyyears
04-07-2012, 01:01 AM
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/142/tumblrm23083c52y1r6jpsl.png

Cool pic. :rolleyes:

Is it me, or is the grass still unsatisfactory? If you look closely, you can see that the grass is sheets of blades, and it looks kind of funny. Maybe it's my screen.

frogger504
04-07-2012, 01:02 AM
You should know. You saw the "video" Or were you just lying, considering you've changed your tune.


Anyways the video is supposedly imminent.

Or maybe the video I may or may have not seen was a different one.Or a different clip.

UrDeviant1
04-07-2012, 01:02 AM
Is it me, or is the grass still unsatisfactory? If you look closely, you can see that the grass is sheets of blades, and it looks kind of funny. Maybe it's my screen.

Maybe It's guy saying "Toastie" that's clouding your judgment.

Kit572
04-07-2012, 01:03 AM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m22zz29fOa1qhulkbo2_500.jpg

HUD looks awesome :D. All nice and... 2012ish.... right.

Anywayy, looks like we can actually sneak now like in the splinter cell games, nice to see the stealth gameplay is... improving...

Tetsou88
04-07-2012, 01:03 AM
Or maybe the video I may or may have not seen was a different one.Or a different clip.

I highly doubt Ubisoft would show more than one gameplay footage at Pax. So I'll side with you lying. ;)

sticks165
04-07-2012, 01:05 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560062_380140182026622_207012852672690_1124580_587 478543_n.jpg

frogger504
04-07-2012, 01:06 AM
I highly doubt Ubisoft would show more than one gameplay footage at Pax. So I'll side with you lying. ;)

Or a clip of it and this screen is of a different part of the overall demo.

frogger504
04-07-2012, 01:08 AM
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2012/14/1333752242-AC3_PaxEast_FINAL_Stereo_Low.wmv_snapshot_08.02_20 12.04.06_23.52.09.jpg

souNdwAve89
04-07-2012, 01:12 AM
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2012/14/1333752242-AC3_PaxEast_FINAL_Stereo_Low.wmv_snapshot_08.02_20 12.04.06_23.52.09.jpg

Wow, they said that there will be around 1,000 new animations for Connor and other NPC's, but it is cool how he still has the similar walking style of Altair and Ezio

sticks165
04-07-2012, 01:14 AM
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2012/14/1333752242-AC3_PaxEast_FINAL_Stereo_Low.wmv_snapshot_08.02_20 12.04.06_23.52.09.jpg

beat you to it

frogger504
04-07-2012, 01:15 AM
Wow, they said that there will be around 1,000 new animations for Connor and other NPC's, but it is cool how he still has the similar walking style of Altair and Ezio

Wuht? Both of them had completely different styles of movement, including walking. Conner most likely too.

^Also, yeah lol :P

souNdwAve89
04-07-2012, 01:23 AM
Wuht? Both of them had completely different styles of movement, including walking. Conner most likely too.

^Also, yeah lol :P

No, they didn't... Altair's and Ezio's movements are the same animation template. Even the fighting styles are the same until it expanded to Brotherhood and Revelations, where they introduced the chain kills (AKA strike first, strike fast). Since Ezio had 3 games, they gave him more attack moves and animation. Well, of course Connor will be different since I said the new engine gave Connor around 1,000 new animations. Considering how you can now dual wield in this game, it makes sense for him to fight in a different style compared to Altair and Ezio.

frogger504
04-07-2012, 01:42 AM
No, they didn't... Altair's and Ezio's movements are the same animation template. Even the fighting styles are the same until it expanded to Brotherhood and Revelations, where they introduced the chain kills (AKA strike first, strike fast). Since Ezio had 3 games, they gave him more attack moves and animation. Well, of course Connor will be different since I said the new engine gave Connor around 1,000 new animations. Considering how you can now dual wield in this game, it makes sense for him to fight in a different style compared to Altair and Ezio.

I am on my playthrough of AC2 on my PC and AC1 on my Xbox.

Yesterday I played AC1 on Xbox while my friend played AC2, I can doubtlessly say they have different animations.

zerocooll21
04-07-2012, 01:52 AM
So pissed I can't make it to PAX... I got a couple buddies going tomorrow, I'll see what they can turn up :p

souNdwAve89
04-07-2012, 02:03 AM
I am on my playthrough of AC2 on my PC and AC1 on my Xbox.

Yesterday I played AC1 on Xbox while my friend played AC2, I can doubtlessly say they have different animations.

Watch this fan made video (really good btw) and you can see that Altair and Ezio move and fight almost the same. It isn't just those two, but also Desmond and even the Assassin apprentices in Brotherhood and Revelations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II_g4_LSSRA

frogger504
04-07-2012, 02:18 AM
Watch this fan made video (really good btw) and you can see that Altair and Ezio move and fight almost the same. It isn't just those two, but also Desmond and even the Assassin apprentices in Brotherhood and Revelations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II_g4_LSSRA

I can clearly see the difference in movement within the first few seconds, they move different. Combat is similar, that I know.

It is still different though, similar, not identical.

Oh and most of that video is AC2 with Altair's robes on.

souNdwAve89
04-07-2012, 02:30 AM
I can clearly see the difference in movement within the first few seconds, they move different. Combat is similar, that I know.

It is still different though, similar, not identical.

Oh and most of that video is AC2 with Altair's robes on.

Yeah, it is and also the editing of the video. I still think they move and fight the same. The only difference is that the new additions for AC2 that gave Ezio some new moves (I.E. dual hidden blades, spears, etc). Everything else, they just used the same animation and combat template.

deskpe
04-07-2012, 03:50 AM
You guys no what I am talking about. Why all this talk of live streams from various sources about AC gameplay where there is NONE!?!

..... I told you so.

frogger504
04-07-2012, 04:11 AM
Yeah, it is and also the editing of the video. I still think they move and fight the same. The only difference is that the new additions for AC2 that gave Ezio some new moves (I.E. dual hidden blades, spears, etc). Everything else, they just used the same animation and combat template.

How about you go back and play them and actually get informed of what you claim.

Moultonborough
04-07-2012, 04:21 AM
It's only showing in the exhibit hall booth with a big sign no video/photos.

mattscat16
04-07-2012, 04:59 AM
yes we did....

Dtanobo
04-07-2012, 06:00 AM
Hey guys, you never know we MIGHT get something in a bit. I remember when Gamescon came out, the revelations video didn't come up immediately so maybe tomorrow we may see a LITTLE bit of footage? The fragdolls stream video I saw did say 5pm eastern so I'm assuming we still have time if my knowledge on timezones is correct? Trying to be optimistic here! I don't think I ( and many others) am patient enough for E3 on any level.

kosmoscreed
04-07-2012, 06:14 AM
It's as simple as this:

-We are going to show the game in PAX but don't expect anything online, if you want to see the game come to PAX.
-We are going to show the game in PAX and the footage will be available online at some point (the same day, the next week...).

Pretty simple, if they informs us in the right way, nobody is going to expect the impossible, it's Ubisoft fault for not being clear.

DylanJosh9
04-07-2012, 06:22 AM
-We are going to show the game in PAX but don't expect anything online, if you want to see the game come to PAX.

this one ^

jmk1999
04-07-2012, 06:22 AM
i believe it's merely for exclusive previews on websites like IGN, GameSpot, etc. once they get to give coverage, ubi will probably release it. doesn't make sense to me, since it's just making my job harder since they didn't post simultaneously, but... what can i do? just gotta keep it off the forum until we get the ok.

Calvarok
04-07-2012, 06:29 AM
Ubigabe said that some fans were able to see it in the frag dolls QandA. Anyways, I'd wait for PAX to keep rolling a bit before we count out seeing any gameplay at all.

jmk1999
04-07-2012, 06:33 AM
yeah, they might show it on the forum after a day or two. wouldn't worry too much. not seeing it the moment it's released isn't the end of the world. :rolleyes: despite all this modding... i haven't even looked at it. haven't really had time. :p

Dtanobo
04-07-2012, 06:37 AM
yeah, they might show it on the forum after a day or two. wouldn't worry too much. not seeing it the moment it's released isn't the end of the world. :rolleyes: despite all this modding... i haven't even looked at it. haven't really had time. :p

Are there chances that we don't have to wait until E3 to see some clip of gameplay? Because it is still 2 months away and it would be really annoying that article writers got to see it like 3 months before everyone else. I live in Australia and we rarely get anything here lol

frogger504
04-07-2012, 06:44 AM
About the Bunker Hill General (this is information that was released back in the Gameinformer Magazines).

You kill the general in the Bunker Hill demo, I got some info from the real event Wiki:


He toppled into the arms of his son, William, also a Royal Marine, who cried, "I have lost my father!" Some of the Marines tried to console the young officer, while others, overcome with emotion, moaned. Pitcairn was carried back to Boston, and died of his wound within hours. He is buried at the Old North Church in Boston

I hope we get to see some of that. Seems like it may play into the whole "Templars aren't really Evil" thing.

Moultonborough
04-07-2012, 06:53 AM
You don't see the actual Assassination. Connor finds him, hides in a bush then runs up jumps with his tomahawk raised and it stops. The General being on a horse.

frogger504
04-07-2012, 06:57 AM
You don't see the actual Assassination. Connor finds him, hides in a bush then runs up jumps with his tomahawk raised and it stops. The General being on a horse.

You serious?
You were there?

Moultonborough
04-07-2012, 06:59 AM
You serious?
You were there?

Yup, live only two hours north of Boston.

EDIT: It was a little odd, it paused frequently showing and talking about each new feature. And took all the press reviews word for word and stuck it in the video.

frogger504
04-07-2012, 07:18 AM
Yup, live only two hours north of Boston.

EDIT: It was a little odd, it paused frequently showing and talking about each new feature. And took all the press reviews word for word and stuck it in the video.

Question, did it show Eagle Sense?

Moultonborough
04-07-2012, 07:38 AM
Nope. Showed the tree climbing though and Connor using the rope dart then he jumps downs down grabs a soldier uses him as a shield as everyone shoots. Than runs kills them with his tomahawk meanwhile the guy is swinging on the tree branch dead. Awesome, lasted about maybe 4 or 5 minutes long. Near the start Alex talks about the "stealth" approach to the left(side used in the trailer) and the "action"(right through the middle of the battle approach. Kind of reminded me of COD 3 with the options.

MetalCreed
04-07-2012, 07:59 AM
How good is the graphics? Does it look anything as good as the old screens?

Moultonborough
04-07-2012, 09:12 AM
It looked a lot better than any previous AC games. And I think personally it does very much looks as good as the screens.

jmk1999
04-07-2012, 09:12 AM
Are there chances that we don't have to wait until E3 to see some clip of gameplay? Because it is still 2 months away and it would be really annoying that article writers got to see it like 3 months before everyone else. I live in Australia and we rarely get anything here lol

wish i could tell you... but i don't have any info. all i'm doing is speculating. sorry. :(

BeCk41
04-07-2012, 09:15 AM
You guys no what I am talking about. Why all this talk of live streams from various sources about AC gameplay where there is NONE!?!

This has nothing to do with the topic, but I like your sig Pac... and I have no idea what you all are talking about being 'trolled' over. ?.?

jmk1999
04-07-2012, 09:23 AM
they're upset because due to the closed doors policy on AC3's preview room, no one got to see it... and they thought that the fragdolls' video from PAX would show AC3... yet no such luck. oh well...

pacmanate
04-07-2012, 09:53 AM
This has nothing to do with the topic, but I like your sig Pac... and I have no idea what you all are talking about being 'trolled' over. ?.?

Thanks! And because there were various misinterpretations of whether a live stream of gameplay would happen on websites, the fragdolls said gameplay in 30 minutes after their Q&A finished, and because ubisoft posted on twitter than streamed gameplay would happen but they deleted that tweet.

Sajn12
04-07-2012, 09:57 AM
"The Whole AC Community just got trolled." That made me laugh :D Don't know why, but it made me laugh :D :D I'm mad :D

freddie_1897
04-07-2012, 10:00 AM
I love Ubi and ac, but this is low Ubisoft, very low, you've shown the journalists the demo, and they've released their previews, why delay it even longer? This is not fair on the long term fans who can't make it to PAX, I'm dissapointed with you

De Filosoof
04-07-2012, 10:15 AM
I love Ubi and ac, but this is low Ubisoft, very low, you've shown the journalists the demo, and they've released their previews, why delay it even longer? This is not fair on the long term fans who can't make it to PAX, I'm dissapointed with you

Yeah, not really good marketing if you ask me.
They don't even have to show a mission where you have to assassinate someone, they could also make some videos with a demonstration of the new gameplay mechanics.
That way they could stretch the hype more without spoiling too many things like they did with ACR if you remember.

deskpe
04-07-2012, 10:32 AM
Relax people, geez. They will show us gameplay videos soon.

wapikas
04-07-2012, 10:36 AM
apparently they showed only battle scene.

http://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/rxeuk/spoiler_ac3_i_was_at_pax_and_saw_the_video/
(http://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/rxeuk/spoiler_ac3_i_was_at_pax_and_saw_the_video/)

edit: spoilers



(http://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/rxeuk/spoiler_ac3_i_was_at_pax_and_saw_the_video/)

GeneralTrumbo
04-07-2012, 10:40 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/John_Pitcairn.jpg

Apparently this guy is an assassination target in the game.

oliacr
04-07-2012, 11:04 AM
continue ragin':D:D we'll see gameplay on E3 i think, ...D

NightGhost1994
04-07-2012, 11:09 AM
This sucks

n00bfi_97
04-07-2012, 11:37 AM
Yeah, their marketing is simply terrible because the target market they haven chosen seems to consist of whiny cry-babies.

Never once did they explicitly say they were going to show us, the general public, the demo. Journalists saw it? Itīs a benefit of the job, deal with it.

I get why people might be frustrated, but seriously? Grow up. Not everyone has the same privileges nor should they.

notafanboy
04-07-2012, 11:39 AM
Yeah, their marketing is simply terrible because the target market they haven chosen seems to consist of whiny cry-babies.

Never once did they explicitly say they were going to show us, the general public, the demo. Journalists saw it? Itīs a benefit of the job, deal with it.

I get why people might be frustrated, but seriously? Grow up. Not everyone has the same privileges nor should they.
they could atleast confirm or deny it

n00bfi_97
04-07-2012, 11:47 AM
they could atleast confirm or deny it

Forgive me if I sound "like a fan boy" but they have no obligation to confirm or deny sources that are outside Ubisoft.

pacmanate
04-07-2012, 12:47 PM
Yeah, their marketing is simply terrible because the target market they haven chosen seems to consist of whiny cry-babies.

Never once did they explicitly say they were going to show us, the general public, the demo. Journalists saw it? Itīs a benefit of the job, deal with it.

I get why people might be frustrated, but seriously? Grow up. Not everyone has the same privileges nor should they.

Pretty sure people that went to PAX were the general public.

YoooDonny
04-07-2012, 12:50 PM
Dude dont act like you aren't disappointed. I know you made that Tea to help keep you awake

I think its called coffee...

DavisP92
04-07-2012, 03:34 PM
Forgive me if I sound "like a fan boy" but they have no obligation to confirm or deny sources that are outside Ubisoft.

aren't fragdolls part of ubisoft, so when they say gameplay up in 30 minutes that means ubisoft is pretty much saying that. I think they would be obligated to say something then. but oh well, that's in the past now. Sucks how we haven't seen gameplay yet but we will sooner or later

frogger504
04-07-2012, 04:09 PM
aren't fragdolls part of ubisoft, so when they say gameplay up in 30 minutes that means ubisoft is pretty much saying that. I think they would be obligated to say something then. but oh well, that's in the past now. Sucks how we haven't seen gameplay yet but we will sooner or later

Or at the very least make sure to let their own branches know that hey won't be able to stream.

Mr_Shade
04-07-2012, 05:12 PM
Guys,

Ubisoft have no control over what your expectations were..

No one officially said there would be game play - if you have issues with the footage you saw, you need to complain to the people who said they would have gameplay.

The frag dolls are sponsored by Ubisoft, however they are providing the footage for this, so it's down to them to advertise it,



Re some of the screenshots posted in the tread, you really should not judge the game by poor quality over bright images - since they do not reflect the final game.

I know you guys are hungry for info, however you should not start ranting and complaining over something Ubisoft has no control over.


If there is a restriction on the footage being streamed, it may well be down to the fact it's being streamed in low quality - and does not reflect the game as the team want you to see it.

playassassins1
04-07-2012, 05:17 PM
Guys,

Ubisoft have no control over what your expectations were..

No one officially said there would be game play - if you have issues with the footage you saw, you need to complain to the people who said they would have gameplay.

The frag dolls are sponsored by Ubisoft, however they are providing the footage for this, so it's down to them to advertise it,



Re some of the screenshots posted in the tread, you really should not judge the game by poor quality over bright images - since they do not reflect the final game.

I know you guys are hungry for info, however you should not start ranting and complaining over something Ubisoft has no control over.


If there is a restriction on the footage being streamed, it may well be down to the fact it's being streamed in low quality - and does not reflect the game as the team want you to see it.

Thanks for making it clear to everyone.

DavisP92
04-07-2012, 05:33 PM
Guys,

Ubisoft have no control over what your expectations were..

No one officially said there would be game play - if you have issues with the footage you saw, you need to complain to the people who said they would have gameplay.

The frag dolls are sponsored by Ubisoft, however they are providing the footage for this, so it's down to them to advertise it,



Re some of the screenshots posted in the tread, you really should not judge the game by poor quality over bright images - since they do not reflect the final game.

I know you guys are hungry for info, however you should not start ranting and complaining over something Ubisoft has no control over.


If there is a restriction on the footage being streamed, it may well be down to the fact it's being streamed in low quality - and does not reflect the game as the team want you to see it.

so if frag dolls is sponsored by ubisoft and they say that we will get gameplay then wouldn't it be nice if ubisoft told us that we really were not getting anything. it would have been nice, a lot of people were waiting for it and were only disappointed. But oh well, hopefully we will get to see some gameplay soon.

referring to the graphics of the screenshots, yea i'm one of the people that is saying that they are ugly (compared to the original screenshots). I think everyone gets that when the game is released it will look a lot better then what we saw now. But how can we get screenshots more then a month ago and when we get new ones they look nothing like what we saw before? it's a little unsettling that the game could look like a game for the ps4 and now it's back to a ps3.

TorQue1988
04-07-2012, 05:34 PM
Guys,

Ubisoft have no control over what your expectations were..

No one officially said there would be game play - if you have issues with the footage you saw, you need to complain to the people who said they would have gameplay.

The frag dolls are sponsored by Ubisoft, however they are providing the footage for this, so it's down to them to advertise it,



Re some of the screenshots posted in the tread, you really should not judge the game by poor quality over bright images - since they do not reflect the final game.

I know you guys are hungry for info, however you should not start ranting and complaining over something Ubisoft has no control over.


If there is a restriction on the footage being streamed, it may well be down to the fact it's being streamed in low quality - and does not reflect the game as the team want you to see it.
If the streamed video is in low quality they could just label it as such (alpha build; work in progress; this build does not reflect the final product etc.); many companies do this. I'm not worried about the graphics, because this was clearly a work in progress. And i understand that Ubisoft has no control over the hype or over Fragdolls advertisements, but Ubisoft was aware of the hype on the forums and could've clarified the situation with a simple statement "Calm down guys we are not revealing any gameplay until E3"; and besides Fragdolls,being sponsored by Ubisoft, have (or had) some credibility and if they say gameplay will be shown, of course people would believe that.
Anyway, luckily for me i didn't expect any gameplay so i'm not as disappointed as everyone else. True some people around here exaggerated the matter, but like i said all the craziness could have been avoided with better communication.

playassassins1
04-07-2012, 05:35 PM
so if frag dolls is sponsored by ubisoft and they say that we will get gameplay then wouldn't it be nice if ubisoft told us that we really were not getting anything. it would have been nice, a lot of people were waiting for it and were only disappointed. But oh well, hopefully we will get to see some gameplay soon.

referring to the graphics of the screenshots, yea i'm one of the people that is saying that they are ugly (compared to the original screenshots). I think everyone gets that when the game is released it will look a lot better then what we saw now. But how can we get screenshots more then a month ago and when we get new ones they look nothing like what we saw before? it's a little unsettling that the game could look like a game for the ps4 and now it's back to a ps3.

They never said that the screenshots we got at the reveal would have the exact same graphics as the game.

DavisP92
04-07-2012, 05:39 PM
They never said that the screenshots we got at the reveal would have the exact same graphics as the game.

I'm sorry but that's idiotic, when a company releases screenshots for a game, it is meant to show gamers what the game looks like. not only how it should look like at the end but those are suppose to be screenshots of the game at that moment. that's like if i make a new game that looks like AC3 now and then i release the game that looks like prince of persia the sands of time. where is the logic in that.

n00bfi_97
04-07-2012, 05:45 PM
I'm sorry but that's idiotic, when a company releases screenshots for a game, it is meant to show gamers what the game looks like. not only how it should look like at the end but those are suppose to be screenshots of the game at that moment. that's like if i make a new game that looks like AC3 now and then i release the game that looks like prince of persia the sands of time. where is the logic in that.
Considering that Ubisoft themselves didn't release those pics rather a company sponsored by them did, no, it's not idiotic.

ITT: Stop being so ****hurt; like Mr_Shade said, nothing was ever officially confirmed and everyone jumped to conclusions. Ubisoft is not at fault here.

playassassins1
04-07-2012, 05:45 PM
I'm sorry but that's idiotic, when a company releases screenshots for a game, it is meant to show gamers what the game looks like. not only how it should look like at the end but those are suppose to be screenshots of the game at that moment. that's like if i make a new game that looks like AC3 now and then i release the game that looks like prince of persia the sands of time. where is the logic in that.


http://cdn4.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/assassins-creed-revelations-2-650x366.jpg

Does this look like Revelations? No, this was released at the reveal of ACR

Just like AC III, don't expect to much of the game as we did with ACR.

Mr_Shade
04-07-2012, 05:47 PM
Guys...

Have you even considered that screenshots you have seen may be from a different version?


The footage shown to the press and the one used to grab the poor screenshots in the thread, is PS3.


The screenshots previously released may have been from the PC version, with more AA and filtering and more details, due to being run on a high spec machine.. And may have been produced for the sole purpose of being used in print and for the reveal, by the company using them.




Having seen the game in action though, a random poorly taken screenshot, does not do the PS3 version justic.

I personally would wait and see official video and screen shots before throwing the baby out with the bath water.

TorQue1988
04-07-2012, 05:50 PM
Guys enough with the graphics. Is it that hard to understand that this is just the alpha build, the same one that was shown a couple of weeks ago for journalists?
The final product will be much much better that this, which by the way doesn't look as bad as some of you keep saying.

DavisP92
04-07-2012, 05:51 PM
Considering that Ubisoft themselves didn't release those pics rather a company sponsored by them did, no, it's not idiotic.

ITT: Stop being so ****hurt; like Mr_Shade said, nothing was ever officially confirmed and everyone jumped to conclusions. Ubisoft is not at fault here.

Which screenshots would you be referring to? if it's about the new screenshots, would that matter seeing how it's the same game really? And why would that second response have anything to do with what you quoted. if you really are referring to me then you should read more carefully before you just say whatever pops in your head seeing how i've been saying "oh well, we'll get gameplay sooner or later".





Does this look like Revelations? No, this was released at the reveal of ACR

Just like AC III, don't expect to much of the game as we did with ACR.

actually it does, it's just at a different angle. Those are ACR's graphics on my HD tv.



Guys...

Have you even considered that screenshots you have seen may be from a different version?


The footage shown to the press and the one used to grab the poor screenshots in the thread, is PS3.


The screenshots previously released may have been from the PC version, with more AA and filtering and more details, due to being run on a high spec machine.. And may have been produced for the sole purpose of being used in print and for the reveal, by the company using them.




Having seen the game in action though, a random poorly taken screenshot, does not do the PS3 version justic.

I personally would wait and see official video and screen shots before throwing the baby out with the bath water.

that makes a lot of sense now, well then i hope the graphics of the consoles are at least close to the pc version.



Guys enough with the graphics. Is it that hard to understand that this is just the alpha build, the same one that was shown a couple of weeks ago for journalists?
The final product will be much much better that this, which by the way doesn't look as bad as some of you keep saying.

I think everyone gets it is an alpha build, but seeing how what they showed at reveal was an alpha build as well (i think :P) then that wouldn't matter at all. I'm not saying that it looks bad standing on it's own, but when compared to what was shown on reveal it does. But what Mr. Shade sounds reasonable, if the reveal was shown on the PC and these were on the ps3 + bad camera quality

n00bfi_97
04-07-2012, 05:53 PM
Which screenshots would you be referring to? if it's about the new screenshots, would that matter seeing how it's the same game really? And why would that second response have anything to do with what you quoted. if you really are referring to me then you should read more carefully before you just say whatever pops in your head seeing how i've been saying "oh well, we'll get gameplay sooner or later".

I'm not referring to you as such, I'm referring to what this topic has become. "ITT" means "in the the topic", in case you were wondering.

playassassins1
04-07-2012, 05:57 PM
@Pdavis3
That may be true, but my point is. don't expect to much of a game, just because you would like it to be that way, doesn't mean you will really get it.
I don't want to keep fighting about such a pointless thing like this, so discussion over.

Mr_Shade
04-07-2012, 05:57 PM
that makes a lot of sense now, well then i hope the graphics of the consoles are at least close to the pc version.
I have seen a comment from someone in here who saw the video of the gameplay..

They said its the best looking AC game to date.

I would agree with that..

Animation and graphics add up to a great looking game.

I know many people are going to just look at those washed out screen shots and pick them to peices - however a static poor screenshot, does not reflect on the game I saw in action...

For pre alpha stage - it looked awesome.

DavisP92
04-07-2012, 05:58 PM
I'm not referring to you as such, I'm referring to what this topic has become. "ITT" means "in the the topic", in case you were wondering.

oh okay, thanks for clearing that up. i hope people aren't hurt or still pissed now. Things happen and it's in the past now, it'll be June before we know it and we'll see AC3 at e3


@Pdavis3
That may be true, but my point is. don't expect to much of a game, just because you would like it to be that way, doesn't mean you will really get it.
I don't want to keep fighting about such a pointless thing like this, so discussion over.

yea i would like it to be that way, but it's more of a thing that they showed what the game does look like and then release something that looks different is odd. I actually don't think i've seen a game like that. but oh well, i'm sure the end result will be nice.



I have seen a comment from someone in here who saw the video of the gameplay..

They said its the best looking AC game to date.

I would agree with that..

Animation and graphics add up to a great looking game.

I know many people are going to just look at those washed out screen shots and pick them to peices - however a static poor screenshot, does not reflect on the game I saw in action...

For per alpha stage - it looked awesome,

yea i remember reading that in some preview. would like to see the demo, i remember also reading that Ubisoft already has their e3 demo ready or planned. So i wonder if the e3 demo is the same as the demo that has already been shown.

pacmanate
04-07-2012, 06:35 PM
No one should judge those screens anyway. I don't even know how these even EXIST if Im honest. How can a fan screen cap?! It makes no sense to me

JCearlyyears
04-07-2012, 08:01 PM
I just realized that... how did someone screen cap, and not post a video?! Maybe it wasn't a fan... anyone know where the screens first came up?

TorQue1988
04-07-2012, 08:13 PM
Yeah i'm also curious about the scans. If someone could take some pictures why not film the whole thing? They even said there was an employee at every booth to make sure things like this don't happen...

travilanche
04-07-2012, 08:46 PM
Whoever it was, I hate them for posting pictures and no video.

Moultonborough
04-07-2012, 08:49 PM
They are showing it in a little mini theater with the booth surrounding it. You can't actuallly see it walking on the floor you gotta wait in line than sit down and view it. There is a Ubisoft booth person on both sides on the theater watching for people taking videos/pictures. The whole i theater is maybe 10 feet across, so you don't have much of a chance.

EDIT: I have a few pictures of the booth if anyone wants me to upload them later.

MoneyForBoobs
04-07-2012, 09:33 PM
They are showing it in a little mini theater with the booth surrounding it. You can't actuallly see it walking on the floor you gotta wait in line than sit down and view it. There is a Ubisoft booth person on both sides on the theater watching for people taking videos/pictures. The whole i theater is maybe 10 feet across, so you don't have much of a chance.

EDIT: I have a few pictures of the booth if anyone wants me to upload them later.

yes later :o

DavisP92
04-07-2012, 09:42 PM
They are showing it in a little mini theater with the booth surrounding it. You can't actuallly see it walking on the floor you gotta wait in line than sit down and view it. There is a Ubisoft booth person on both sides on the theater watching for people taking videos/pictures. The whole i theater is maybe 10 feet across, so you don't have much of a chance.

EDIT: I have a few pictures of the booth if anyone wants me to upload them later.

yes now :P

Sajn12
04-07-2012, 09:47 PM
They are showing it in a little mini theater with the booth surrounding it. You can't actuallly see it walking on the floor you gotta wait in line than sit down and view it. There is a Ubisoft booth person on both sides on the theater watching for people taking videos/pictures. The whole i theater is maybe 10 feet across, so you don't have much of a chance.

EDIT: I have a few pictures of the booth if anyone wants me to upload them later.

Yes, now! :) Or PM! :)

notafanboy
04-07-2012, 09:51 PM
They are showing it in a little mini theater with the booth surrounding it. You can't actuallly see it walking on the floor you gotta wait in line than sit down and view it. There is a Ubisoft booth person on both sides on the theater watching for people taking videos/pictures. The whole i theater is maybe 10 feet across, so you don't have much of a chance.

EDIT: I have a few pictures of the booth if anyone wants me to upload them later.
sure why not.

playassassins1
04-07-2012, 10:03 PM
They are showing it in a little mini theater with the booth surrounding it. You can't actuallly see it walking on the floor you gotta wait in line than sit down and view it. There is a Ubisoft booth person on both sides on the theater watching for people taking videos/pictures. The whole i theater is maybe 10 feet across, so you don't have much of a chance.

EDIT: I have a few pictures of the booth if anyone wants me to upload them later.

If you want to

pacmanate
04-07-2012, 10:33 PM
Ive been saying that for ages but no ones listening D: How do the fans screen cap the screen??! I think ubi did it

LightRey
04-07-2012, 10:37 PM
Ive been saying that for ages but no ones listening D: How do the fans screen cap the screen??! I think ubi did it
It was probably leaked by someone from Ubi or someone from the PAX staff.

MoneyForBoobs
04-07-2012, 10:43 PM
It was probably leaked by someone from Ubi or someone from the PAX staff.

someone`s in trouble xD

Moultonborough
04-07-2012, 11:50 PM
Everytime I try to post it turns the pics to regular lines. Not that they actually say anything. How can I get them small enough? I tried cropping a lot but still didn't work.

Legendz54
04-07-2012, 11:59 PM
http://youtu.be/gRp_dUo5K1c

jmk1999
04-08-2012, 01:14 AM
i've received word that the leaked screens and videos are CURRENTLY okay to post since they're already floating around (though this may change in the coming days... i don't know for sure). the only advisory is that all topics containing the leaked content MUST contain a spoiler tag in the subject. with that said, i'm going to close this topic and try to keep everything to the PAX topic.