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JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 02:16 AM
Altair and Ezio's hoods had more of an eagle's beak look to them. Connor's hood just has a downward point which looses it's symbolism. I know it seems ridiculous to post a thread about this, and it's not like they are going to change it because of this, but I felt like something should be said, so I did.


What do you think?

ElTORO713
04-02-2012, 02:22 AM
Actually I think its just wider thats why it looks like that

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 02:23 AM
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1pwn9326o1qfh2bxo1_500.png

Do you see how it doesn't look like a beak?

rileypoole1234
04-02-2012, 02:33 AM
There's an eagle on it...

Moultonborough
04-02-2012, 02:33 AM
It's there. But a lot bigger and wider.

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 02:35 AM
That's not my point, its that the point isn't like a beak, it's just a downward point.(reply to rileypoole1234)

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 02:39 AM
It's there. But a lot bigger and wider.

I don't see it... It looks like there is a downward triangle on the front of his hood. In every picture where you can see the hood, it just looks like a triangle.

Jamison_J_B
04-02-2012, 02:41 AM
I don't see it... It looks like there is a downward triangle on the front of his hood. In every picture where you can see the hood, it just looks like a triangle.

I see what you mean, the point isn't curved like a beak.

xOMGITSJASONx
04-02-2012, 02:51 AM
More contemporary look Connor has. Contemporary as in a few hundred years ago.

FilipinoNinja67
04-02-2012, 03:09 AM
Really? A thread saying that connor's hood isnt curved and it doesnt look like an eagle's beak. *facepalm*

rileypoole1234
04-02-2012, 03:27 AM
That's not my point, its that the point isn't like a beak, it's just a downward point.(reply to rileypoole1234)

Well yes, but they don't have to make it like a beak. They've incorporated the eagle in a different way here.

nianli22
04-02-2012, 04:51 AM
you got it http://www.castoffdebt.com

OriginalMiles
04-02-2012, 05:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

deadly_thought
04-02-2012, 06:54 AM
Really? A thread saying that connor's hood isnt curved and it doesnt look like an eagle's beak. *facepalm*

im with my unicorn throwing friend on this one

its intended to be a traditional american design ive no idea wich tribes incorporated wich artworks onto their clothing but the symbol on the hood reminds me of the southwestern civilzations very cool no matter where its from

AdamXEve
04-02-2012, 07:05 AM
ITT: We ***** about **** that doesn't matter.

Legendz54
04-02-2012, 07:23 AM
after all the amazing things we have heard about the game, people are worried about tips of hoods....

Sajn12
04-02-2012, 09:41 AM
It has eagle-ish. See there? Stop disucssion. http://assassin.herniweb.cz/images/photoalbum/1_194.jpg

freddie_1897
04-02-2012, 09:44 AM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKTTY9onrUQSgQfPahEbciFtVVewZPM KRrO9u5uCYEJEexan-4

LordWolv
04-02-2012, 09:46 AM
What do you think?
What does it matter?

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 10:22 AM
It's not like I care or am complaining about pointed hoods, but if they are going to replace the symbolism of pointed hoods with an eagle on the hood then there is no reason to have the pointed hood.(yes I know the eagle is on the point) It doesn't matter. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to have a pointed hood that doesn't look like a beak and then put an eagle on it. I said that it isn't as eagle-ish.

DylanJosh9
04-02-2012, 10:35 AM
This topic..

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/no_way.gif

crash3
04-02-2012, 11:02 AM
I like Connor's hood, it's slimmer like Altair's and looks more assassin like. In fact Connors whole look resembles more of altair, that slim look makes him look stealthier-Ezio was too bulky and just stampeded over enemies wherever he went

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 08:27 PM
Have you seen the penny arcade acr poster? Connors hood looks like altairs hood in that poster.

kriegerdesgottes
04-02-2012, 08:34 PM
Well I think it looks fine but Connor doesn't have a name that refers to any kind of bird. His name just means "wolf lover". So if it doesn't totally look like a beak then I guess that makes sense. I'm glad it's there though.

pacmanate
04-02-2012, 08:39 PM
I dont think Connor is supposed to fit into the whole eagle thing?

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 08:46 PM
If he wasn't meant to fit into the eagle thing, why does he have the pointed hood with an eagle on it?

SixKeys
04-02-2012, 08:47 PM
Well, he'll still be doing leaps of faith eagle-style (confirmed by the devs) and there is a picture of an eagle on his hood, so the connection is still there. Plus, the hood is beaked just like the others, so there's really no discussion to be had.

kriegerdesgottes
04-02-2012, 08:50 PM
Well, he'll still be doing leaps of faith eagle-style (confirmed by the devs) and there is a picture of an eagle on his hood, so the connection is still there. Plus, the hood is beaked just like the others, so there's really no discussion to be had.

All of this is true.

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 08:50 PM
I really can't find a picture to show that the hood is beaked. In all the many pictures I've seen, it looks like its not beaked, just pointed.

frogger504
04-02-2012, 10:39 PM
Because he isnt supposed to be a eagle, but a wolf hunter. The only reason they kept the "beak" is the symbolism for the Assassins. It isn't supposed to look like an Eagle.

KillGhast
04-02-2012, 10:47 PM
I think it looks perfect and better than the previous ones, just my opinion.

rain89c
04-02-2012, 10:49 PM
tbh, the whole eagle thing sorta looks ridiculous if you picture it visually lols.
i had actually cracked up a few times just looking at some of the art work where ezio is standing in the middle of crowds of civilians wearing normal clothing, and the assassin himself looking like an idiot wearing a giant bird costume with feather-like cloths sticking out of his @ss, and the hood shaped of a bird's beak.
he looks like he is dressed up for halloween in the middle of all the civilians.

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 10:49 PM
Because he isnt supposed to be a eagle, but a wolf hunter. The only reason they kept the "beak" is the symbolism for the Assassins. It isn't supposed to look like an Eagle.

A symbol for a symbol?... Sounds odd. If you are going to do a symbol, do it right.

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 10:52 PM
tbh, the whole eagle thing sorta looks ridiculous if you picture it visually lols.
i had actually cracked up a few times just looking at some of the art work where ezio is standing in the middle of crowds of civilians wearing normal clothing, and the assassin himself looking like an idiot wearing a giant bird costume for Halloween or something
Oh, that is funny. I was going to say that he looked like a mascot in the OP but I felt it would get everybody focused on that instead of the actual thread.
(not that I'm hating on it or anything, I like it somehow.)

frogger504
04-02-2012, 11:28 PM
A symbol for a symbol?... Sounds odd. If you are going to do a symbol, do it right.

When did I said symbol for a symbol?

It's just there as a symbol for Assassins, that and keeping him looking like an Assassin keeping a sort of beak, no big deal reason, it's for real world reasons of not changing too much.

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 11:30 PM
When did I said symbol for a symbol?

It's just there as a symbol for Assassins, that and keeping him looking like an Assassin keeping a sort of beak, no big deal reason, it's for real world reasons of not changing too much.

you didn't say a symbol for a symbol, but the assassins use the point as symbolism for an eagle, and when you have it as a symbol for the assassins, it becomes a symbol of a symbol.

SixKeys
04-02-2012, 11:32 PM
By the way, maybe I'm wrong but I seem to recall Alta´r being the only assassin in AC1 with a beaked hood. Was it just a symbol of his rank? (If so, why didn't it change when he was demoted?) And if he was the only one, then it doesn't really make sense that the whole order would adopt the same style and carry it on for hundreds of years. I realize it's symbolic for the series as a whole, I'm just wondering if there's any legit reason for the assassins after him to still sport the eagle symbol.

kriegerdesgottes
04-02-2012, 11:37 PM
By the way, maybe I'm wrong but I seem to recall Alta´r being the only assassin in AC1 with a beaked hood. Was it just a symbol of his rank? (If so, why didn't it change when he was demoted?) And if he was the only one, then it doesn't really make sense that the whole order would adopt the same style and carry it on for hundreds of years. I realize it's symbolic for the series as a whole, I'm just wondering if there's any legit reason for the assassins after him to still sport the eagle symbol.

Can't be because Malik and Al Mualim had the beak too. I'd post screen shots but I'm too lazy.

JCearlyyears
04-02-2012, 11:37 PM
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Features/2010/12/Game%20Plot%20Twists%20You%20Totally%20Called/800px-Al_Mualim_1--article_image.jpg
By the way, maybe I'm wrong but I seem to recall Alta´r being the only assassin in AC1 with a beaked hood. Was it just a symbol of his rank? (If so, why didn't it change when he was demoted?) And if he was the only one, then it doesn't really make sense that the whole order would adopt the same style and carry it on for hundreds of years. I realize it's symbolic for the series as a whole, I'm just wondering if there's any legit reason for the assassins after him to still sport the eagle symbol.

Altair wasn't the first; Al Mualim had it too and so do all the other assassins I think... I don't know why.
http://images.wikia.com/assassinscreed/images/a/a0/MalikAssassin.png

notice the hidden blade without the missing finger...

UrDeviant1
04-02-2012, 11:40 PM
Maybe It's for aerodynamic reasons. And just became a symbol over time. Who knows!

MrHatMans
04-02-2012, 11:47 PM
Altair and Ezio's hoods had more of an eagle's beak look to them. Connor's hood just has a downward point which looses it's symbolism. I know it seems ridiculous to post a thread about this, and it's not like they are going to change it because of this, but I felt like something should be said, so I did.


What do you think?

I'd be more concerned as to why a longcoat even HAS A HOOD.

LightRey
04-03-2012, 12:22 AM
I'd be more concerned as to why a longcoat even HAS A HOOD.
Why not?

Assassin_M
04-03-2012, 12:25 AM
Why not?
Rey, its the same guy in that other thread saying the same thing..

LightRey
04-03-2012, 12:26 AM
Rey, its the same guy in that other thread saying the same thing..
I know, but here I'm asking for the why of it. :P

Assassin_M
04-03-2012, 12:27 AM
I know, but here I'm asking for the why of it. :P
Oh ok:rolleyes:
He`ll tell ya because its historically inaccurate..

JCearlyyears
04-03-2012, 12:31 AM
it is a work of fiction.

LightRey
04-03-2012, 12:31 AM
Oh ok:rolleyes:
He`ll tell ya because its historically inaccurate..
I would disagree, since hoods have been used for millenia and clothes were often custom tailored.

UrDeviant1
04-03-2012, 12:33 AM
I would disagree, since hoods have been used for millenia and clothes were often custom tailored.

You mean to say even Dinosaurs wore Hood? :O
;)

LightRey
04-03-2012, 12:34 AM
You mean to say even Dinosaurs wore Hood? :O
;)
Not that many millenia. I'm talking about a few thousand years here. xD

UrDeviant1
04-03-2012, 12:42 AM
Not that many millenia. I'm talking about a few thousand years here. xD

I know :P

Calvarok
04-03-2012, 01:07 AM
As I'm SURE someone has said by now, though I'm not going to read 5 pages for this, his hood actually has a ****ing eagle ON it.

AdamXEve
04-03-2012, 01:17 AM
Not that many millenia. I'm talking about a few thousand years here. xD

That's not a millenia. :P

Jexx21
04-03-2012, 01:19 AM
That's not a millenia. :P
-_-

You're the one that calls people stupid and yet you get something as simple as that wrong?

Dear god..

Acrimonious_Nin
04-03-2012, 01:19 AM
That's not a millenia. :P

yes it is

JCearlyyears
04-03-2012, 02:22 AM
As I'm SURE someone has said by now, though I'm not going to read 5 pages for this, his hood actually has a ****ing eagle ON it.

Yes, but as I said, it lost its symbolism. I'm sure someone as logical as you could see that.

Acrimonious_Nin
04-03-2012, 02:26 AM
Yes, but as I said, it lost its symbolism. I'm sure someone as logical as you could see that.

I am sorry, but how has it lost it's symbolism? if I may ask?

JCearlyyears
04-03-2012, 03:17 AM
It lost its symbolism because instead of it being a beak, it's a triangle. It doesn't represent anything, or at least not that clearly. Now for someone who knows about ac it's pretty obvious what it's supposed to be, but someone else would just see a pointed hood. Before it was clear.

frogger504
04-03-2012, 04:35 AM
It lost its symbolism because instead of it being a beak, it's a triangle. It doesn't represent anything, or at least not that clearly. Now for someone who knows about ac it's pretty obvious what it's supposed to be, but someone else would just see a pointed hood. Before it was clear.

Yes, the point is that it isn't supposed to symbolize eagles anymore.

Jexx21
04-03-2012, 06:55 AM
It looks like a beak to me.

pacmanate
04-03-2012, 11:17 AM
If he wasn't meant to fit into the eagle thing, why does he have the pointed hood with an eagle on it?

Because the Eagle symbolises america, or something along those lines. You're FROM america how do you not know this

JCearlyyears
04-03-2012, 11:34 AM
Could be Canada.

JCearlyyears
04-03-2012, 11:39 AM
Yes, the point is that it isn't supposed to symbolize eagles anymore.

Then why did they choose an outfit that still resembles the old one. They are obviously different, but still similar.(white, hood with point, flappy things in the back, etc.) And there is an eagle on the hood.

CrazySN
04-03-2012, 11:48 AM
Well, I remember from AC1, that the dev's said that the point of Altair's outfit was so his shadow would look like an Eagle whenever he dives down to assassinate someone. I don't know if it's the same with the newer Assassins, but that may be the reason for the beaked hood.

LightRey
04-03-2012, 12:26 PM
That's not a millenia. :P
Millenia (alternatively spelled "millennia") is the plural form of millennium, which is referring to a period of 1000 years.

UrDeviant1
04-03-2012, 12:40 PM
How In the hell Is this hood dissimilar to Ezio or Altair's hood? Maybe It's not AS pointed. But come on, It even has an Embossed Eagle on It...

http://r002.joyme.com/r002/image/2012/04/17/35D8F74601B6CC70C04D2C031AF70041.jpg

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSE3e04mI7W41SyCYrNd-muzkgVS2l9VlrV-JQKy9wY1D896t-gWL3qk5T This Picture says It all. If anything, Connors hood Is even more Eagle like than Ezio's.

LightRey
04-03-2012, 12:51 PM
How In the hell Is this hood dissimilar to Ezio or Altair's hood? Maybe It's not AS pointed. But come on, It even has an Embossed Eagle on It...

http://r002.joyme.com/r002/image/2012/04/17/35D8F74601B6CC70C04D2C031AF70041.jpg

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSE3e04mI7W41SyCYrNd-muzkgVS2l9VlrV-JQKy9wY1D896t-gWL3qk5T This Picture says It all. If anything, Connors hood Is even more Eagle like than Ezio's.
I have to agree. It's not completely the same, but it definitely has a beak-like shape.

she-assassin
04-03-2012, 02:26 PM
Of course it is eagle-like. Come on, guys, use your imagination. :o

JCearlyyears
04-03-2012, 07:56 PM
As I said, somebody who hasn't played AC or seen it wouldn't know that it is supposed to be a beak. The other hoods clearly looked like a beak. By them changing it from clearly being beak-like to a just a downward point, it lost it's some of it's symbolism. It is somewhat beak like, hence the title of the thread saying it isn't AS eagle-ish, but by them keeping the point and putting an eagle on it, it is eagle-ish, just not as eagle-ish as it could be with a clearly beaked hood. Also, the eagle on the point would be ruined if it retained the previous point from the other games.

Jexx21
04-04-2012, 12:08 AM
But it DOES look like a beak.

UrDeviant1
04-04-2012, 12:11 AM
As I said, somebody who hasn't played AC or seen it wouldn't know that it is supposed to be a beak. The other hoods clearly looked like a beak. By them changing it from clearly being beak-like to a just a downward point, it lost it's some of it's symbolism. It is somewhat beak like, hence the title of the thread saying it isn't AS eagle-ish, but by them keeping the point and putting an eagle on it, it is eagle-ish, just not as eagle-ish as it could be with a clearly beaked hood. Also, the eagle on the point would be ruined if it retained the previous point from the other games.

I don't know how you can say It don't look beak-like when It clearly does. And to someone who has never played the games, I doubt what we have come to see as symbolic would even matter to them, because they never saw It as symbolic In the first place.

It Is beak-like In shape and has an Eagle on It. The hood Is as symbolic as It's always been.

JCearlyyears
04-04-2012, 12:21 AM
I just don't see the beak. I see a downward point; a modified beak. It looks too different. The way I see it, it looks like a downward point, not a beak. It doesn't have the same curve which made it look like a beak. It may still be considered symbolic because it has the point, but I prefer it to be symbolic by having the point. Notice the difference.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFJNASs8Ue12GkOo1C5mGnI0C30hGTC PqLwHNWAhZyGh81Ma6lTboos0FZXg
http://i.imgur.com/GNHfS.jpg

she-assassin
04-04-2012, 12:34 AM
It's just a little detail! If they removed the hood completely...now that would be a completely different matter.

Jexx21
04-04-2012, 12:40 AM
scroll up to the top of the forum. look at ezio's hood.

the beak shapes look the same.

DarthEzio55
04-04-2012, 12:45 AM
[QUOTE=JCearlyyears;8216506]I just don't see the beak. I see a downward point; a modified beak. It looks too different. The way I see it, it looks like a downward point, not a beak. It doesn't have the same curve which made it look like a beak. It may still be considered symbolic because it has the point, but I prefer it to be symbolic by having the point. Notice the difference.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFJNASs8Ue12GkOo1C5mGnI0C30hGTC PqLwHNWAhZyGh81Ma6lTboos0FZXg
http://i.imgur.com/GNHfS.jpg[/QUO TE
lol I keep thinking that's Ezio killing a redcoat, but back on topic, I don't see anything wrong with his beak

ShadowRage41
04-04-2012, 12:50 AM
http://www.techdigest.tv/assassins-creed-iii.jpg
This looks very beak like to me. Not sure you have much to complain about

JCearlyyears
04-04-2012, 01:09 AM
I felt like the original hood was very symbolic before, and when they changed it, I felt as if it lost it's symbolism. His hood even used to resemble an eagle's head! And now, it is a hood with a point, nothing more. That's the way I see it at least. You can even see in the picture I put above. You try doing that with Connor's hood. Tell me how it works out.

RzaRecta357
04-04-2012, 02:28 AM
I liked Altairs tight hood. I think this one is closer to it than the italian wide flareish one.