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JG27_Dacripler
01-18-2004, 12:55 PM
In my most humble opinion it is a nice opportunity to write free in the UBI forums. However, I have witnessed the most disqusting and distateful representatation of Individuals, Countries and Squadrons alike in many of the recent threads on these forums.
Irony has it's fate as I have seen Squads in which I have truely honored to fly with am now in question due to the offensive, bitter, and most disgraceful acts towards indivduals and countries alike.
One of the hottest topic was the cheat trick and the flamefest began immediately. However to me this is an issue which is minor in proportions to see individuals who post in plain clothes to hiding behind a posting name with no accountability towards their Callsign or Squadron.
In life every individual is accountible for their actions. The internet offers a "mask" to enable an individual to voice their own personal agenda and views. But UBI and your Squadron has its rules of conduct to follow and you need to take notice before reacting to a post.
I personally think the posts would become a little less offensive if a member signed the forums with their callsign attached. I believe it would make them less prone to making personal attacts and would make them accountible towards their actions. Squadrons would certainly be visable towards the public and they would be under scrutiny of their peers and community.

JG27_Dacripler
01-18-2004, 12:55 PM
In my most humble opinion it is a nice opportunity to write free in the UBI forums. However, I have witnessed the most disqusting and distateful representatation of Individuals, Countries and Squadrons alike in many of the recent threads on these forums.
Irony has it's fate as I have seen Squads in which I have truely honored to fly with am now in question due to the offensive, bitter, and most disgraceful acts towards indivduals and countries alike.
One of the hottest topic was the cheat trick and the flamefest began immediately. However to me this is an issue which is minor in proportions to see individuals who post in plain clothes to hiding behind a posting name with no accountability towards their Callsign or Squadron.
In life every individual is accountible for their actions. The internet offers a "mask" to enable an individual to voice their own personal agenda and views. But UBI and your Squadron has its rules of conduct to follow and you need to take notice before reacting to a post.
I personally think the posts would become a little less offensive if a member signed the forums with their callsign attached. I believe it would make them less prone to making personal attacts and would make them accountible towards their actions. Squadrons would certainly be visable towards the public and they would be under scrutiny of their peers and community.

Bearcat99
01-18-2004, 03:01 PM
Hey Crip... though I understand where you are coming from... it would be kind of hard to effectively implement. History has proven that legislating morality just doesnt work.

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TX-Zen
01-19-2004, 11:12 AM
Then beat morality into them when they are children.



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SlickStick
01-19-2004, 12:44 PM
Well, Zen a bit harsh, but you hit the nail on the head. It all starts at home with the parents. Today's kids have what we didn't have as kids, the internet. Sure we had TV, but it was censored and most of us turned out OK.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But, these kids today have almost dumbfounded easy access to things that we could never see on TV. And the story is the same. Two parents working or a single-parent trying to make ends meet and cannot or does not understand how to monitor their children's use of the internet.

The internet is raising those kids now, not just mind-numbing TV. Some people use the internet to be someone else, using the safety of their KB and monitor to be anybody and say anything they want with no accountability, but an IP address. For me, I use it to be exactly me. Even though I use a few callsigns to practice under, I'm not affiliated with any active squads and I'm always the same person in each name. I have also never lied to any of the perceptive types who have asked me, "Are you so and so?". Just FYI for the curious type.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have my home PCs on a network and I regularly monitor my 12 year-old and up until recently, my 21 year old, when they're on the PC. He was surfing those college humor sites and a few R to X-rated, no XXX, sites that were leaving links, cookies and bad favorites in the IE folder for my 12 year old to find. I put the kabosh on that and made some surfing rules for him on the family computer.

Parents have to be aware of what their kids are doing on the net and a kid with a PC in his room, is very difficult to monitor, if you don't know what to look for. The PCs in my house are in the family room and either my wife or I are always there when my daughter is surfing.

Parents need to take an active role in their children's use of the internet because more and more houses are getting PCs for the first time and that just means a whole new slew of internet noobs that have no clue what's in store for them when they mistype a web address and end up at a porn site that was titled to specifically catch mispelling of famous web sites for hits. Just a small example, but you know what I'm saying.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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JG26Red
01-19-2004, 12:49 PM
i use the same callsign as this board, so if i offend you, sorry, shoot me down in hyperlobby if it will make ya feel better.. lol

TX-Zen
01-19-2004, 01:28 PM
I suppose in my relative old age (and since having children of my own) I must be getting somewhat of a hard edge to me, but while though the comment was genuinely made in humor I can see where it might not look so funny...I guess on a freudian level it wasn't meant to be lol.



I was going to write something about the concept of beatings and why there are valid reasons under specific circumstances to do it, but I realized that maybe this is not the place for going into human psycology on that level. It can probably best be summed up by the age old saying "spare the rod, spoil the child"

The ancient peoples of antiquity seemed to have no problem with it and neither does the military, so there must be some truth in it.


Anyway, back to a humorous level

BEAT EM ALL! I say.

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DuxCorvan
01-19-2004, 01:46 PM
Yes, SlickStick says right. We belong to older generations who were not so crushed by the net and mass media that have break all limits to sell goods or ideologies. Just TV and school and that could be easily controlled by our elders.

Now the younger are just overfed with data and material comfort, and have lost all the resources to stand frustration. When they want something, they need it NOW, and they truely think they deserve it. Sheltered by impunity and acting like despotic monsters, they grow seeing anyone in the way to their immediate futile needs as an enemy, and always react with anger to any argument or challenge.

Anonimity gives wings to their feeling of impunity, and they make plenty use of it, to harshly attack and humiliate anyone with different ideas or feelings. It's surprising how many 'good boys', who act sensible and meekly in real life, convert into analphabet packs of dynamite as soon as they enter the net.

We the older use to feel empathy with our forum mates, and are less prone to flame them, knowing that would make us feel more or less guilty.

As for me, I'm exactly the same one here and in real life. Yes, I'm often a little bit caustic, cinic and rather clown, but hey, I'm just making a serious effort not to insert a joke here...

...but it's useless. I can't help it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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SlickStick
01-19-2004, 02:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TX-Zen:
I suppose in my relative old age (and since having children of my own) I must be getting somewhat of a hard edge to me, but while though the comment was genuinely made in humor I can see where it might not look so funny...I guess on a freudian level it wasn't meant to be lol.



I was going to write something about the concept of beatings and why there are valid reasons under specific circumstances to do it, but I realized that maybe this is not the place for going into human psycology on that level. It can probably best be summed up by the age old saying "spare the rod, spoil the child"

The ancient peoples of antiquity seemed to have no problem with it and neither does the military, so there must be some truth in it.


Anyway, back to a humorous level

BEAT EM ALL! I say.

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Hehe, I should have put a winky in there, because I certainly wasn't offended by your comment. I was just making sure you did mean it slightly humerous.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I don't have anything against a good swift smack on the butt, when needed. However, that's as far as I'll go, because I try to get my kids to use their minds to solve problems, instead of getting physical with them and beating my opinion into them. Although, I swear it would be faster sometimes. Damn osmosis takes too long.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Cajun76
01-19-2004, 02:03 PM
Although born relatively recently compared to you old timers http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif, I seem to be a throwback to an earlier age. If your shooting down Cajun76 online, then you'll be shooting down me. As I told someone online the other day, regarding flying and posting with the same handle: It's either bravery or stupidity, I'm leaning toward the latter.

Something to that effect. Zen, I hear you, and while I don't have kids yet, this seems appropriate. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Old_Canuck
01-19-2004, 06:31 PM
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LeadSpitter_
01-19-2004, 07:26 PM
agreed multiple accounts should not be allowed on here, one name per win dll and you have to request a name change by the community manager, I bet half the people wouldnt act like they do under bogus daily account names

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T_O_A_D
01-20-2004, 07:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
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Ditto to all above SlickStick

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