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ESG GATOR
03-23-2012, 11:37 PM
Could this be the limited edition of AC3 Leaked Early?


Link (http://www.evilsourcegaming.com/screenshot/assassins-creed-iii-join-or-die-edition/)

deskpe
03-23-2012, 11:41 PM
if its real, the necklace looks terrible.

pacmanate
03-23-2012, 11:42 PM
It kinda looks legit and kinda does. I know the Join or Die is the kind of motto or slogan thing I saw it on a picture of Connor once in a gameinformer video interview. But surely join or die would be in commas? Assassin's Creed 3 "Join or Die" Edition? Either way that necklace is pretty cool.

Im not gonna say this is real or not yet, mostly because there is no point in caring seeing as we have to wait til october anyway. Guessing that book would class as Connors journal though

Edit: Just saw a website saying "waiting for confirmation from Activision"............... WHAT

Edit 2: This edition was priced for 80 Euros, thats around £65, seems legit price wise I guess, however this is a collectors edition and not an awesome edition (eg animus or codex edition, the highest priced versions) which are around £80. Now no offence but if you had the choice between a little book at a necklace for £15 more than a standard edition, whats stopping you forking out the other £15 for way more awesome stuff

Josegtx13
03-23-2012, 11:47 PM
Who knows. But the necklace looks OK.

I hope North America has access to the good collector editions, for AC3.

blazefp
03-24-2012, 12:03 AM
if its real, the necklace looks terrible.

Totally :S

D.I.D.
03-24-2012, 12:05 AM
Puzzling. Notebook looks real, box seems plausible, necklace is laughable.

kriegerdesgottes
03-24-2012, 12:32 AM
Hmm looks interesting. I thought I heard someone say we would hear about the CE before the end of the month so could be legit. I think the necklace is ok but I'd rather have a statue though.

frogger504
03-24-2012, 12:37 AM
Whether or not it's real, I find it suspicious that it shows a real box, a real book, but a 3D necklace...

EscoBlades
03-24-2012, 12:50 AM
Whether or not it's real, I find it suspicious that it shows a real box, a real book, but a 3D necklace...

You've heard of the term "mock up" right? Yeah...that.

frogger504
03-24-2012, 12:55 AM
You've heard of the term "mock up" right? Yeah...that.
Yes, I know that's a possibility, just the fact that everything else is an actual thing and the necklace, not the chain either, is a obvious 3D model, not well done either.

I'm sure you have plenty of knowledge on it and have probably seen it in person, just saying it's suspicious to me. I know it very well can be real.

EscoBlades
03-24-2012, 12:58 AM
I know nothing of it. I had briefly seen the image on the retailer website before it got pulled down. Retailers usually get mock up assets which they can place on their sites prior to official screens of the products being released. Probably a retailer jumping the gun in this case.

Although i personally expect any special editions to include more, like a soundtrack, steelbook and other stuff like that.

frogger504
03-24-2012, 01:01 AM
I know nothing of it. I had briefly seen the image on the retailer website before it got pulled down. Retailers usually get mock up assets which they can place on their sites prior to official screens of the products being released. Probably a retailer jumping the gun in this case.

Although i personally expect any special editions to include more, like a soundtrack, steelbook and other stuff like that.

If it is real it may be one of them, like the American Version while Europe get's a life size Conner Jacket, Dagger, Tomahawk, Blade, TARDIS. and Hidden Blade.

Jexx21
03-24-2012, 01:08 AM
If they give NA a bad Collector's Edition there will be pissing wars, because the game is set in mother-fracking-America.

Seriously, NA needs the same collector's edition as the EU.

JumpInTheFire13
03-24-2012, 01:27 AM
But surely join or die would be in commas? Assassin's Creed 3 "Join or Die" Edition? Either way that necklace is pretty cool.

They're called quotation marks. A comma is this: ,
Join Or Die seems like a super cheesy name. If this is the CE for NA I won't be buying it.

gamertam
03-24-2012, 01:37 AM
Pissing war is correct!!:mad:

the game takes place on American soil, the setting is an American Revolution.
the Collector's Edition should be an end all/ be all of Collector's Edition.
anything short of fantastic is un-excuseable and unacceptable in my view.
is Ubisoft really biased toward NA gamers or what?

however, there's no official confirmation of it yet so there's hope.

i'll hold judgement until then.:mad:

JumpInTheFire13
03-24-2012, 01:55 AM
Still crossing my fingers for a statue of all 4 Assassins together.

frogger504
03-24-2012, 03:06 AM
Pissing war is correct!!:mad:

the game takes place on American soil, the setting is an American Revolution.
the Collector's Edition should be an end all/ be all of Collector's Edition.
anything short of fantastic is un-excuseable and unacceptable in my view.
is Ubisoft really biased toward NA gamers or what?

however, there's no official confirmation of it yet so there's hope.

i'll hold judgement until then.:mad:

It's not bias, it's money. Probably cheaper not to. AC is an EU Series so it's more likely more money comes from there.

Josegtx13
03-24-2012, 03:40 AM
I hope North America get's a good Collectors Edition like Europe.

D.I.D.
03-24-2012, 03:48 AM
It's not bias, it's money. Probably cheaper not to. AC is an EU Series so it's more likely more money comes from there.

Montréal's the central team for AC, and the marketing is directed from there too as far as I know, so if it belongs to any continent then it's North America. I realise the Ubisoft company headquarters are in France, but I don't think anyone here sees it as a European game series.

frogger504
03-24-2012, 04:12 AM
Montréal's the central team for AC, and the marketing is directed from there too as far as I know, so if it belongs to any continent then it's North America. I realise the Ubisoft company headquarters are in France, but I don't think anyone here sees it as a European game series.

That's the reason then. Why else would they release all the bigger editions there? More Moneyz.

kosmoscreed
03-24-2012, 04:36 AM
The diary/artbook looks cool, I'm ok with this edition but I wonder if this is the mid tier edition and we will have another more expensive. I'm tired of big boxes and toys, I hope they do something as cool as the codex edition.

hotgal187
03-24-2012, 05:01 AM
ev1 mak shor u jones or u wil dye

lothario-da-be
03-24-2012, 09:50 AM
the necklace may look horible but their stands 'immagine non definitiva' i assume that means image not definitive. Its also a leak. the content looks ok

Assassin_M
03-24-2012, 10:08 AM
ev1 mak shor u jones or u wil dye
MY EYES !!!! please stop..

GeneralTrumbo
03-24-2012, 10:19 AM
my eyes !!!! Please stop..
pretty please.

Ayush_S92
03-24-2012, 10:22 AM
Well, I think it's a fake. Especially because it says "DLC Bonus". Now if it's a launch edition it totally doesn't make sense to already have DLC out before the game even released(or with it for that matter). Imagine how many people would be enraged by that.

Secondly, if it's not a launch edition, then how do people have it's info so early on? Yea, just doesn't seem right.

GeneralTrumbo
03-24-2012, 10:23 AM
Well, I think it's a fake. Especially because it says "DLC Bonus". Now if it's a launch edition it totally doesn't make sense to already have DLC out before the game even released(or with it for that matter). Imagine how many people would be enraged by that.

Secondly, if it's not a launch edition, then how do people have it's info so early on? Yea, just doesn't seem right.
First-day DLC has been done by companies before.

eagleforlife1
03-24-2012, 10:33 AM
First-day DLC has been done by companies before.

Including Ubi, who did it with ACB and the Copernicus Conspiracy.

Sukramo
03-24-2012, 11:22 AM
Day one DLC?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO!

LightRey
03-24-2012, 12:22 PM
ev1 mak shor u jones or u wil dye
What are we going to dye and what color will it be? :D

frogger504
03-24-2012, 12:34 PM
What are we going to dye and what color will it be? :D

Good to know I wasn't the only one thinking of that.

reddragonhrcro
03-24-2012, 12:35 PM
Seriously that thing is huge!I m not a G to wear a oversized necklace.
http://www.theatrehouse.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/0509-gangster-necklace.jpg

frogger504
03-24-2012, 12:37 PM
Maybe an indication that some big time gangster is an Assassin?

Eminem?

:p

zerocooll21
03-24-2012, 02:04 PM
but a 3D necklace...

this

maybe they wanted to hear fan reaction before they made it :p

GeneralTrumbo
03-24-2012, 02:07 PM
Maybe an indication that some big time gangster is an Assassin?

Eminem?

:p
Or Lil Wayne.

GeneralTrumbo
03-24-2012, 02:10 PM
http://www.evilsourcegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/AC-Limited-Edition.jpg

brick177
03-24-2012, 03:22 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Benjamin_Franklin_-_Join_or_Die.jpg/320px-Benjamin_Franklin_-_Join_or_Die.jpg

pacmanate
03-24-2012, 10:46 PM
I hope you guys know that day one DLC doesn't mean missions, DLC never meant missions. It stands for Downloadable content. In case some of you have forgotten, DLC includes day 1 capacity upgrades and cosmetic only armour.

Acrimonious_Nin
03-24-2012, 11:15 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Benjamin_Franklin_-_Join_or_Die.jpg/320px-Benjamin_Franklin_-_Join_or_Die.jpg

lol what is that snake supposed to symbolize

reddragonhrcro
03-24-2012, 11:19 PM
lol what is that snake supposed to symbolize

Well looks like each part has letters on it.Possibly represents cities at the time?

Lonesoldier2012
03-24-2012, 11:19 PM
-_- I hope America gets a good edition.

Jexx21
03-24-2012, 11:26 PM
Well looks like each part has letters on it.Possibly represents cities at the time?

States and regions, actually. In order from left to right:

South Carolina
North Carolina
Virginia
Maryland
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
New York
New England

The picture is a political cartoon, drawn by Benjamin Franklin. Here' s a link to it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Join,_or_Die

brick177
03-25-2012, 12:10 AM
lol what is that snake supposed to symbolize

I think it is supposed to symbolize that if the states don't unite they will all perish. ie, the snake must be whole in order to survive.

Each state was its own separate administration and there was no central authority, so in order to fight the French (this was during the 7 years war, 1754) they all had to act as one or they would lose.

EscoBlades
03-25-2012, 12:43 PM
Here's another one.

Supposed Collector's Edition (http://www.xboxgamezone.co.uk/2012/03/25/assassins-creed-iii-collectors-edition-mock-up-spotted/)

kriegerdesgottes
03-25-2012, 12:51 PM
Here's another one.

Supposed Collector's Edition (http://www.xboxgamezone.co.uk/2012/03/25/assassins-creed-iii-collectors-edition-mock-up-spotted/)

Hmm This looks kinda cool. I'd still way rather have a statue than a medallion though. This def seems more legit than the other one but I'm hoping the real one will be better than this.

notafanboy
03-25-2012, 12:57 PM
Here's another one.

Supposed Collector's Edition (http://www.xboxgamezone.co.uk/2012/03/25/assassins-creed-iii-collectors-edition-mock-up-spotted/)

wouldn´t it make more sense having a "diary of connor" ?

EscoBlades
03-25-2012, 12:59 PM
wouldn´t it make more sense having a "diary of connor" ?

I've updated it with the shots of the Diary of George. It probably would make more sense to have a Connor Diary. But the medallion (if real) looks BADASS!!

frogger504
03-25-2012, 01:07 PM
Trying to follow up on "Ghost Of War"

So far I've gotten this: http://www.trueparanormaltales.com/revolutionary-war-ghost/

Bleeding Effect?

brick177
03-25-2012, 01:14 PM
That is definitely a map of Washington's siege of Boston in his journal. Maybe the journal has all of the battle maps that we visit in the game?

Lot's of similarities to this original map of the siege of Boston:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Lexington_Concord_Siege_of_Boston.jpg

Sukramo
03-25-2012, 01:15 PM
Here's another one.

Supposed Collector's Edition (http://www.xboxgamezone.co.uk/2012/03/25/assassins-creed-iii-collectors-edition-mock-up-spotted/)

First multiplayer character, The Sharpshooter, nice find!

He looks like Vali Cel Tradat (Sentinel).

Lonesoldier2012
03-25-2012, 01:18 PM
Here's another one.

Supposed Collector's Edition (http://www.xboxgamezone.co.uk/2012/03/25/assassins-creed-iii-collectors-edition-mock-up-spotted/)

EscoBlades over all!

EscoBlades
03-25-2012, 01:20 PM
EscoBlades over all!

I'm confused...was that a compliment? If it was, thank you.

notafanboy
03-25-2012, 01:20 PM
First multiplayer character, The Sharpshooter, nice find!

He looks like Vali Cel Tradat (Sentinel).

he looks more like the pirate dude in ACR

Lonesoldier2012
03-25-2012, 01:21 PM
I'm confused...was that a compliment? If it was, thank you.
It was.

he looks more like the pirate dude in ACR

John Marston anyone?

TorQue1988
03-25-2012, 01:25 PM
http://xboxgamezone.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Collectors.jpg
http://xboxgamezone.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/421067_10150745110986663_24124301662_11601498_1608 487851_n.jpg
http://xboxgamezone.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/428665_10150745111036663_24124301662_11601499_1947 539737_n.jpg
http://xboxgamezone.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/421634_10150745110846663_24124301662_11601496_1704 619167_n.jpg

LightRey
03-25-2012, 01:29 PM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/151/tumblr_lltzgnHi5F1qzib3wo1_400.jpg

frogger504
03-25-2012, 01:30 PM
John Marston anyone?

Actually... maybe.

RDR was part of the inspiration for AC3, it isn't a big jump to think they'd add an out of series character to Multiplayer. I'm hoping for more costumes for SP though.

playassassins1
03-25-2012, 02:01 PM
Wow. if there is a better Edition than the ''Join or Die'' Edition i'm gonna be very Surprised.

EscoBlades
03-25-2012, 02:01 PM
Not sure where you got that, but RDR wasn't an inspiration for AC III in any way.

brick177
03-25-2012, 02:03 PM
The banner held by the Eagle says "Animus Unum" which translates to "One Mind"

Lonesoldier2012
03-25-2012, 02:04 PM
Not sure where you got that, but RDR wasn't an inspiration for AC III in any way.
You're right, though i do see where he's coming from.
Maybe spiritually like the frontier hunting, skinning etc. it's like RDR

EscoBlades
03-25-2012, 02:16 PM
You're right, though i do see where he's coming from.
Maybe spiritually like the frontier hunting, skinning etc. it's like RDR

Inevitable comparisons have, and will continue to be made. But it defo wasn't the inspiration. Just has some similar elements.

frogger504
03-25-2012, 02:18 PM
Inevitable comparisons have, and will continue to be made. But it defo wasn't the inspiration. Just has some similar elements.

How about the words of Alex Hutchinson or however his last name is,,,

EscoBlades
03-25-2012, 02:20 PM
How about the words of Alex Hutchinson or however his last name is,,,

Did he actually say "Red Dead Redemption was the inspiration for AC III?" Or was it implied?

And bear in mind this guy was brought on to be Creative Director on a project over 2 years in the making.

I'm not accusing you of lying, just want to be clear. Thanks.

Acrimonious_Nin
03-25-2012, 02:21 PM
I think it is supposed to symbolize that if the states don't unite they will all perish. ie, the snake must be whole in order to survive.

Each state was its own separate administration and there was no central authority, so in order to fight the French (this was during the 7 years war, 1754) they all had to act as one or they would lose.

Thank You. Ok that is cool it sounds fair.

pacmanate
03-25-2012, 02:21 PM
Just because you can sell pellets doesn't mean that its like Red Dead either...

pacmanate
03-25-2012, 02:25 PM
http://xboxgamezone.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Collectors.jpg

pacmanate
03-25-2012, 02:30 PM
Wow. if there is a better Edition than the ''Join or Die'' Edition i'm gonna be very Surprised.

I was just thinking this aswell. Although this does look very more like a collectors edition and not a SUPAWSUM edition like the Codex or the Animus editions. You can tell by the Box size and the contents that it is the collectors edition. Who knows if that edition will be europe only seeing as it was from a spanish site. I know that they have different editions depending on different regions. The price for this is 80 euros which is around £65 which is normally what a collectors edition costs too. They will definitely have a £80-90 edition coming out, when will it leak? Probably tomorrow from the same site. I honestly don't know why they keep posting stuff to their site and taking it down

frogger504
03-25-2012, 02:31 PM
Did he actually say "Red Dead Redemption was the inspiration for AC III?" Or was it implied?

And bear in mind this guy was brought on to be Creative Director on a project over 2 years in the making.

I'm not accusing you of lying, just want to be clear. Thanks.

It may have been implied, I can't remember perfectly now but I did see an interview in which he said that months after starting RDR came out and it was his favorite game and many things from RDR reflected on the development of AC3. If RDR never came out we probably wouldn't have smart horses in AC3.


He's made several references to it, at least 3-4 different times.

Subject J80
03-25-2012, 02:32 PM
Where do I join?

pacmanate
03-25-2012, 02:41 PM
Where do I join?

Send me £100 over paypal and you can join

GeneralTrumbo
03-25-2012, 02:42 PM
Where do I join?
You can join by paying $300 to me.

Subject J80
03-25-2012, 02:45 PM
You can join by paying $300 to me.

Hmmm. £100, $300 or Die. Decisions.

pacmanate
03-25-2012, 02:51 PM
Hmmm. £100, $300 or Die. Decisions.

Trust me, join me. You get a free parker pen

Subject J80
03-25-2012, 03:02 PM
Trust me, join me. You get a free parker pen

No deal. I'm more of a medallion man.

Back on topic, I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Hopefully the European CEwill be swell.

SixKeys
03-25-2012, 03:25 PM
So Clint Eastwood is a multiplayer character now? Cool. ;)

The medallion would look better without the "Join or Die" text. It's oddly positioned at just one side, bringing the whole out of balance. I'd rather just have the logo anyway.

It sounds like a pretty cool edition though still not as good as the best AC2 or ACB editions. With those we also got the soundtrack and a short film ("Lineage" and "Ascendance"). I wouldn't be surprised if they still have more editions waiting to be announced, with even more extras.

deskpe
03-25-2012, 03:37 PM
I dont see the must.have factor of this collectors edition.....

Sukramo
03-25-2012, 03:59 PM
I dont see the must.have factor of this collectors edition.....

Same. I bought revleations animus edition and it was fairly pointless. A book with lore you can look up. A video that is on yutube. 2 characters I would have gotten with the DLC anyway.

And the Vlad mission was so sloppy and bad, i dont even know.......Probably not buying special edition this time round.

EscoBlades
03-25-2012, 04:04 PM
Same. I bought revleations animus edition and it was fairly pointless. A book with lore you can look up. A video that is on yutube. 2 characters I would have gotten with the DLC anyway.

And the Vlad mission was so sloppy and bad, i dont even know.......Probably not buying special edition this time round.

The Encyclopedia was extremely well made in my opinion, and something i'll keep for a very long time. Its real value is to hardcore franchise fans. Embers obviously wasn't supposed to end up on Youtube as it is a copyrighted short film.

lothario-da-be
03-25-2012, 04:13 PM
is the art in the encyclopedia wel drawned? someone said it looks horrible

zerocooll21
03-25-2012, 04:13 PM
The Encyclopedia was extremely well made in my opinion, and something i'll keep for a very long time. Its real value is to hardcore franchise fans.

+1

LightRey
03-25-2012, 04:13 PM
is the art in the encyclopedia wel drawned? someone said it looks horrible
Opinions differ. Shocking, I know.

deskpe
03-25-2012, 04:16 PM
Same. I bought revleations animus edition and it was fairly pointless. A book with lore you can look up. A video that is on yutube. 2 characters I would have gotten with the DLC anyway.

Oh I think the enclopedia might be the best EDITION content ever! its something that acutaly makes sense aswell, not some fake journal I didn't get that edition so im propably gonna by the revises enclopedia that comes this year.




is the art in the encyclopedia wel drawned? someone said it looks horrible
I think it looks good from waht ive seen, its only using concept images (almost anyways Altair image anyone?)
if you want an overwiev of the book, you can see it all on youtube ;)


They said they wouldnt use 3d renders or promotional material in the book, but from waht I can tell the main Altair image is a 3d render that was used for alot of promotional material :mad:

LINK (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111106220305/assassinscreed/images/9/9e/Encyclopedia_-_Altair_double_page.jpg)

EscoBlades
03-25-2012, 04:17 PM
is the art in the encyclopedia wel drawned? someone said it looks horrible

I think so. Never heard any criticsm of the art in it. I'm uploading some shots now so you can see for yourself.

edit: You be the judge -
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/gbiese/IMG_1506.jpg
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/gbiese/IMG_1505.jpg
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/gbiese/IMG_1504.jpg
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/gbiese/IMG_1503.jpg

SleezeRocker
03-25-2012, 04:20 PM
I dont see the must.have factor of this collectors edition.....



Same here, looks ok *emphasis on 'looks'*, but doesn't look too exciting to me.
Eh we still have time maybe they'll announce perhaps( an official) CE here in US or something better since AC CE tends to have like 2-3 versions ;)
*I hopei n US we don't get a lame American flag for preordering/part of CE...if so I'd say "Really...I can just go to a swap meet" lol

Sukramo
03-25-2012, 04:42 PM
Ok, so the encyclopedia is nice. I read it when I bath occationaly. Still, I got the revelation edition, thats enogh for me.

Would hav been coolwer with an "Assasain coin" instead of neclace but oh well. A coin you can keep it a pocket. Wear that neclace and people will laugh.

Edit. Or is it a coin?

pacmanate
03-25-2012, 06:17 PM
im just really pee'd that they are coming out with another one after AC3. They could of waited and not put the unfinished version out for revelations. I also just realised that if you go the the ubishop: http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/en_GB/pd/ThemeID.8605700/productID.247035100

That this is in red: "A collector’s edition of Assassin’s Creed® III will be available. More details about it will be unveiled by the end of March."

So guess this will be officially announced monday