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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 04:16 AM
Please could all of you bump this thread to show how much all of us want the BF110 to be in FB.I expected it to be in either the paid addon or the free addon.Even if the gunner station is incomplete look at the IL2 field mod.The BF110 was a VERY important plane in the eastern front.I say finish this very important theatre of WWII before moving on to the West.I would have bought the paid addon if ONLY the BF110 and the JU88 were there.But both of them are missing.Although I understand there is some amount of work to be done on the JU88 the BF110's pit is finished.Why are they holding it back?
Please bump this thread to show how many of us would like to see the BF110C/G in the upcoming addon/addons.Maybe then Oleg will hopefully include it in the paid addon

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Message Edited on 10/06/03 08:19AM by StG77_Sturm

Message Edited on 10/06/0308:23AM by StG77_Sturm

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 04:16 AM
Please could all of you bump this thread to show how much all of us want the BF110 to be in FB.I expected it to be in either the paid addon or the free addon.Even if the gunner station is incomplete look at the IL2 field mod.The BF110 was a VERY important plane in the eastern front.I say finish this very important theatre of WWII before moving on to the West.I would have bought the paid addon if ONLY the BF110 and the JU88 were there.But both of them are missing.Although I understand there is some amount of work to be done on the JU88 the BF110's pit is finished.Why are they holding it back?
Please bump this thread to show how many of us would like to see the BF110C/G in the upcoming addon/addons.Maybe then Oleg will hopefully include it in the paid addon

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Message Edited on 10/06/03 08:19AM by StG77_Sturm

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 04:25 AM
Bump

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 04:26 AM
bumpity bump bump bumpity, ooops to fast on approach again


Oh and a Bump from

me

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 04:46 AM
petitions dont work, and 1c very rarely read these forums anyway

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 04:58 AM
Im sure they will read.Please continue to bump if you want to see the BF110 flyable in FB

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:00 AM
bf110 would be cool but its not on any of the lists for flyables this winter. which means it probably wont get in. switching to BOB sim new year

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:03 AM
bump..I actually shot down yaks with this plane in the external only thing...It has nice guns

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:06 AM
BUMP

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:07 AM
The third-party developers are working to finish it as fast as they can. The only thing that could get it ready sooner would be if 1C/Maddox finished the modelling themselves, but as far as I know, they are no longer doing any modelling for FB, just coding the 3rd-party models.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:11 AM
Relax they are on it. http://jg777.com/il2. Look under Germany to see the progress of the BF-110.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:12 AM
Bump...You should still give the effort bud. S!

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:22 AM
I'm confident the guys over at the IL2FB database are going to finish this in time for Oleg and the boys to code for the paid add-on.

There doesn't seem to be much left to finish.

Gibbage what do you think?

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:39 AM
Just bumping so gibbage will see it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif any multi engined craft get my vote


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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:40 AM
No one has said that it isn't going to be in. They just haven't mentioned it at all. Relax.

I'd like to see SOMETHING.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 06:23 AM
Petitiions don't work. However, the 110 is a large and puzzling omission. They were produced and employed in very large numbers. By contrast, Bf109K was hardly used at all, yet this aircraft is included in the game.

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 06:32 AM
I don't fly German planes but it would be a nice addition. It was one of my first plastic model kits I ever made so I have sympathy for it. Similar to the Pe-2; these are important a/c.



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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 06:49 AM
Bf-110 please! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 10:08 AM
Bf-110 and Ju-88 areboth work under progress, neither of them are finished.

I'm sure they'll pop out when they are done. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


-jippo

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 10:43 AM
RedDeth wrote:
- switching to BOB sim new year

IIRC the release-date (which will not be rescheduled, UBI wouldnt do such thing) was Q1 2005.
So we have over one year without update after the commercial AddOn in Q1 2004 ?
If that is true, I would petition *any* aircraft, but especially multi-engine aircrafts.
Or open the files for community-MODs.

just my "bump" /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 10:57 AM
For a fighter like the 110, I think it's a waste of time to develop the gunner place. I don't know for the others, but I will try the gunner place one time just to see it and then forget it for ever.

If the pilot cockpit of the 110 is finished, I would by far prefer that the 110 would be release now!

Cheers,

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 10:57 AM
give us that 2 engine goodness/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 11:01 AM
BUMP!

I really like to have the BF 110 flyable in FB....

Greetings, Sven

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 11:50 AM
If Me-110 is going to be included then as a counter weight to Me-110 should be TU-2S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tu-2S

The Tu-2 was the last of the mass-produced Soviet bombers of WWII. This plane was in development from March 1 of 1940. As early as January 8, 1941, the first prototype was built and on January 29, this plane had its first flight. The Tu-2 prototype was in trials up until June 1941. With the onset of the war, the Tupolev's design bureau's manufacturing was moved to the city of Omsk and only in July of 1942 did the first limited large-scale production get underway. All of these first planes were sent to a special regiment for troops' trials on Kalinin's front. With the urgent needs for new Yak-9 fighters, the production of the Tu-2 was stopped until September 1943, when large-scale production of the aircraft was again launched. In 1944, Tu-2s became widely used as level and dive bombers.

Tu-2 was in production until 1952 and was the best Soviet bomber of WWII.

Advantages: Excellent flight performance. Simple and easy controls. Good maneuverability. Excellent crew armor and gunnery protection of fighter attacks.

Disadvantages: Small life space for gunners.

Type: Light Bomber/Dive Bomber
Weight:
Empty: 7,474 kg.
Take-off: 11,360 kg.

Length: 13.8 m.
Wingspan: 18.86 m
Wing area: 48.8 Sq. M.
Engine: 2xASh-82FN

Power:
Indicated: 1460 HP
Take-off: 1850 HP

Speed:
Sea level: 482 km/h (509 km/h with 10min boost).;
At 5,400 m: 547 km/h.
Climb to 3,000 m: 9,5 min.
Service ceiling: 9,500 m.
Range: 2,100 km.
Armament:
2x20 mm (ShVAK);
3x12,7mm (UBT)
Bombs of varying weight with an overall weight of under 3,000 kg (4,000 kg in overload).


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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 12:11 PM
BIG bump

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 01:24 PM
Thanks everyone who bumped this thread.Jippo first thank you , Dietger and Hammerd very much for modelling the JU88 and a big thanks to Shane and Avirex and the rest of the team for the BF110.The BF110's cockpit is done only the rear gunner is work in progress.Then if the rear gunner cant be included in the paid addon cant they release it like how they released the IL2 Field mod?

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 01:27 PM
".Then if the rear gunner cant be included in the paid addon cant they release it like how they released the IL2 Field mod? "

Yes, release the gunner post in a later patch!

Cheers,

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 01:27 PM
The 110 is conspicuous (my big word of the day) by it's absence as a flyable aircraft.Like others I've managed to shootdown fellow Squad members in the 110 using the external views.
I'd also like to see the Me-210 made flyable, that's a pretty sweet little bomber.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 01:40 PM
Bump, bring it on, any multi engine flyable is a worthy bonus.

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 01:40 PM
Well, i don't like to fly german planes but, if the flyable Bf-110 is done, i see no reason to exclude it from the game. Please, add it!

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 02:06 PM
Big Bump from me.

Love that aircraft!

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 02:34 PM
Yup, heavy fighters and bombers is exactly what we need. For the sake of the title, if not for anything else, I think IL-10 is a must have. But other than that, Pe-2, Pe-3 as well as Bf-110 and Ju-88 are just the planes I want to fly. I am a bit puzzled about the boring american planes that have been included in an Eastern front sim instead of my favorate wonders of the skies. Especially now that it has been announced that the Battle of Britain is the next Sim to follow. Well, if they continue with their logic, I guess the IL-10, Pe-2 and Pe-3 will appear in that theater.

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 02:40 PM
Hi.

First of all the shots I've seen so far of the Ju88 doen by Jippo, Dietger and Hammerd look geat and I love the Bf110 pit by Shane and Avirex. I'd like to see those planes as I think they should have been in original IL2 already as they are really important on the east and west front. I hope they will be done in time to be added. from what gib said on the netwings forum there's still time where 1C will support 3rd party models for FB till the new sim comes out. I really hope so. there are so many good models in development at the moment that it' d be a pitty not to get them.

2 things we need in FB:
The 110 and the desert!!!
http://exn.ca/news/images/1999/04/23/19990423-Me110coloursideMAIN.jpg

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 03:00 PM
An important Eastern Front aircraft that should be included. Yes, I'd like the Bf-110 flyable please.


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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 03:10 PM
BUMP !

BIggest BUMP since FW190-Forward view issue....

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 03:23 PM
Bump, I'd love to see it.

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 03:39 PM
give us the 110, pls.

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 04:23 PM
Count me in at least thrice on that petition. It's definatley a MUST-BE-IN plane. At least the G-2, and if it's nescessary, I'll fly it without a mannable gunner position like the Il-2 fieldmod, but hell, include it. It's a plane that's missing right from the beginning, and the pilot's "room" is completely finished now. Get the FM and in with it. The gunner may come later, it's not so important IMHO. AI gunns better anyway, they're not blinded by the uberbig muzzleflashesT /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif plus you would be dead meat in that position.

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 04:29 PM
Two things

A: This isn't the definitive list of planes

B: I would like it too, especially because I have the impression that the cockpit is allready done for ages now! (as with the spitfire Mk-XIV)

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 04:34 PM
bumpage

yay!

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:10 PM
Bumbumbumbum BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:18 PM
bump

2 things we need in FB:
The 110 and the desert!!!
http://exn.ca/news/images/1999/04/23/19990423-Me110coloursideMAIN.jpg

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:21 PM
the cockpit looks great, very well done.

big bump

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:45 PM
Add it on!

anikollag

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 05:51 PM
The pit looks so nice, it would be a shame not to have it.

I think the pit is at least as nice as the 262's!

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 06:02 PM
Yep, 110 & Pe-2, anything else is bonus.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 06:14 PM
Guys listen up,

Its not a matter of Oleg and his crew deciding not to put the 110 in for the free add-on. It's a matter of how long its taken for the cockpit. As of now, I know that the pilot's cockpit is done, the rear-gunner is still being worked on.

Just be patient /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif , the 110 will be available soon enough.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 06:19 PM
StG77_Sturm wrote:
- Please could all of you bump this thread to show how
- much all of us want the BF110 to be in FB.I expected
- it to be in either the paid addon or the free
- addon.Even if the gunner station is incomplete look
- at the IL2 field mod.The BF110 was a VERY important
- plane in the eastern front.I say finish this very
- important theatre of WWII before moving on to the
- West.I would have bought the paid addon if ONLY the
- BF110 and the JU88 were there.But both of them are
- missing.Although I understand there is some amount
- of work to be done on the JU88 the BF110's pit is
- finished.Why are they holding it back?
- Please bump this thread to show how many of us
- would like to see the BF110C/G in the upcoming
- addon/addons.Maybe then Oleg will hopefully include
- it in the paid addon

What? That would be strange.. I mean they did all that cockpit work for the 110... Even went as far as to include it as a week end update... Would they really discard all that hard work on tht cockpit that last I saw looked complete?



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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 06:22 PM
More than a bump from me, more akin to a body-slam.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 06:42 PM
tagert wrote:
- If WAR was not the ANSWER.. Than what the H was your
- QUESTION?


"Can't we all just get along?" for instance.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 06:59 PM
tagert wrote:

- What? That would be strange.. I mean they did all
- that cockpit work for the 110... Even went as far as
- to include it as a week end update... Would they
- really discard all that hard work on tht cockpit
- that last I saw looked complete?


It will be in the game when it is ready, it is not ready yet. Rear gunner position is being worked on.


-jippo

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 07:01 PM
lets get the Bf 110 now, and the gunnerposition in an upcomming Addon.
we have 1 il2 with a gunner, where we can not take his position .
it works for the 110 as well /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 08:22 PM
Big bump.
I can't wait for the 110 and the Ju 88.
These were extremely important aircraft historically.
You simply can't leave them out and get some odities instead(I like the Komet for example but you can't have the Komet and not the 110 or the 88 can you?)
I hope they do the sensible thing that I happen to thing is the responsible thing as well.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 08:41 PM
oFZo wrote:
- "Can't we all just get along?" for instance.

What color is the sky in your world? for instance and insight.

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XyZspineZyX
10-06-2003, 09:29 PM
It will probably be here when it is finished.... I am sure there is no conspiracy to keep it out of the sim.....SHEEEESH!!

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XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 03:26 AM
Step aside Bear. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Bump for the Fb110 to be in the paid addon.

The cockpit is too big to fail.

XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 03:32 AM
Good lord folks! Just be PATIENT! It'll be worth it!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif





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XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 08:27 AM
Bump

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XyZspineZyX
10-07-2003, 06:34 PM
Ever since the the original Sturmovik I have been anxious for flyable 110s (C/G at least). However it is mainly out of our hands or so it seems, lets offer Avrirex any help he should need.

Now for some other issues.

Is it just me, or are there more who can't see ANY point in the 109Z???

I mean why don't they kill that project of a "projected fighter" ASAP (sorry third party enthusiast) and put some greater effort in making an AI a/c flyable for instance.

Sorry, but although I can respect (or at least learn to accept) most of 1C's decisions, this one has me completely flabbergasted.

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