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The13Doctors
02-08-2012, 01:01 AM
I just noticed something in my latest playthrough of Brotherhood. The invasion of Vienna happened in 1509 and Ezio arrived at Galata in 1511 So what happened there?

He was 50 during the invasion but two years later at 52 he looks at least 10 years older, minimum. In two year he increased skills incredibly, he became a legacy and gained skills immensely considering he traveled for 10 months to arrive at Masyaf leaving barely a year for training. Timing seems off between ACB and ACR. Also I have been noticing a few things in Constantinople from Brotherhood. If you notice the Contract missions from Constantinople you see that Ezio is the one who started the Assassin's Guild there and they are barely starting, yet in so little time they are suddenly at the Peak of Assassin power in Constantinople in so short of time.

It just doesn't add up.

LightRey
02-08-2012, 01:15 AM
It's Viana, not Vienna. Vienna is a completely different place.

I'm not sure why you think Ezio's skills improved much between ACB and ACR. I think it's pretty much the same.
Ezio is not the one who started the Assassin guild in Constantinople either. The Polo brothers started it and the order there was already doing quite well when Ezio arrived.

The13Doctors
02-08-2012, 01:28 AM
If you read through the Constantinople missions they state that you have to send Assassins to help it start, it was founded already, but it wasn't doing well, it had just started and they needed Assassin reinforcements from Rome, it required several Assassins as I remember it was a high level mission. Ezio was well involved with Constantinople well before Masyaf.

LightRey
02-08-2012, 01:54 AM
Oh, you're referring to the Constantinople missions from ACB. Well whatever that description says I'd say the database is a much better source and it states that the order was doing just fine. In fact, until the Byzantines started harassing the people the Assassins had very little to worry about.

Assassin_M
02-08-2012, 02:42 PM
I believe the scenario is like this.
Ezio was sending Assassins all over the world, and as you know, Communication was hard between the Guilds, so Ezio probably sent Assassins to Constantinople in 1503 hoping to start a guild there, only to find out that there had aready been a guild there for the past 300 years ans thus decides to leave the Apprentices there as more man power..
as for Ezio between ACB and ACR, well first the siege was in 1507 not 1509 and second they just used the same ezio model, because it`d be crazy to think that they`d make a whole new older model of ezio for just this one mission, so if you`re going to compare, then compare between Ezio circa 1503 and Ezio circa 1511..

The13Doctors
02-09-2012, 12:22 AM
I believe the scenario is like this.
Ezio was sending Assassins all over the world, and as you know, Communication was hard between the Guilds, so Ezio probably sent Assassins to Constantinople in 1503 hoping to start a guild there, only to find out that there had aready been a guild there for the past 300 years ans thus decides to leave the Apprentices there as more man power..
as for Ezio between ACB and ACR, well first the siege was in 1507 not 1509 and second they just used the same ezio model, because it`d be crazy to think that they`d make a whole new older model of ezio for just this one mission, so if you`re going to compare, then compare between Ezio circa 1503 and Ezio circa 1511..

I just finished Brotherhood yesterday, it said it was 1509 which shocked me so I immediately looked into it. Right now I am confused, I just double checked and in the wikia it says 1507 but I know for a fact that the game said 1509.

As for the Assassin's Guild, they was actually some stress between them apparently because Ezio sends Assassins to Piri Reis to steal maps, so either Ezio didn't know much about the Order or there was trouble, but I doubt he would attack an ally of the Assassins. I have to keep checking the Constantinople missions to get more/exact details today. I'll be checking Piri Reis too.

As for the model, yeah that makes sense. I wonder where he got the robes, in every game it's explained where he gets the clothes.

LightRey
02-09-2012, 01:46 AM
I just finished Brotherhood yesterday, it said it was 1509 which shocked me so I immediately looked into it. Right now I am confused, I just double checked and in the wikia it says 1507 but I know for a fact that the game said 1509.

As for the Assassin's Guild, they was actually some stress between them apparently because Ezio sends Assassins to Piri Reis to steal maps, so either Ezio didn't know much about the Order or there was trouble, but I doubt he would attack an ally of the Assassins. I have to keep checking the Constantinople missions to get more/exact details today. I'll be checking Piri Reis too.

As for the model, yeah that makes sense. I wonder where he got the robes, in every game it's explained where he gets the clothes.

You absolutely sure that the game said 1509? I am quite sure it was 1507.

Btw, Piri Reis didn't join the Assassins until after the war with Venice ended, which was in 1503 (the year Cesare is arrested).

rileypoole1234
02-09-2012, 03:38 AM
You absolutely sure that the game said 1509? I am quite sure it was 1507.

Btw, Piri Reis didn't join the Assassins until after the war with Venice ended, which was in 1503 (the year Cesare is arrested).

I'm also like 97% sure it was 1507.

The13Doctors
02-09-2012, 04:06 AM
Yeah, it's the main reason I posted it when I played it said 1509..

JumpInTheFire13
02-09-2012, 05:43 AM
Are you playing on PC, PS3 or 360? I'm not sure if it makes a difference but....

The13Doctors
02-09-2012, 10:33 AM
Are you playing on PC, PS3 or 360? I'm not sure if it makes a difference but....

I am playing on the PC, I am not 100% sure but it may have said the same on the Xbox version when I had it.

LightRey
02-09-2012, 11:19 AM
I am playing on the PC, I am not 100% sure but it may have said the same on the Xbox version when I had it.

Really strange. I haven't heard of anyone seeing it saying 1509 before and amongst most regulars the fact that it ends in 1507 is common knowledge.

Assassin_M
02-09-2012, 11:36 AM
As for the model, yeah that makes sense. I wonder where he got the robes, in every game it's explained where he gets the clothes.
If you consider the Novel canon, then it says that Ezio got his robes during his time in Acre from the people who had fed and sheltered him..

The13Doctors
02-09-2012, 11:50 AM
If you consider the Novel canon, then it says that Ezio got his robes during his time in Acre from the people who had fed and sheltered him..
A bit of failed canon considering we see Ezio using those robes when he first set out from Rome 10 months before that.

Assassin_M
02-09-2012, 01:34 PM
A bit of failed canon considering we see Ezio using those robes when he first set out from Rome 10 months before that.
Enlighten me please, and tell me where on earth have you seen Ezio before his trip to Masyaf ?

dxsxhxcx
02-09-2012, 01:52 PM
A bit of failed canon considering we see Ezio using those robes when he first set out from Rome 10 months before that.

if you're talking about the ship scene that appear in the trailer, Ezio was going to Constantinople, you can see Hagia Sophia at the end of that scene... and before that when we see him walking and climbing a mountain, he was going to Masyaf after he spent some time in Acre, where he got his new robes according to Assassin_M..

The13Doctors
02-09-2012, 01:57 PM
if you're talking about the ship scene that appear in the trailer, Ezio was going to Constantinople, you can see Hagia Sophia at the end of that scene... and before that when we see him walking and climbing a mountain, he was going to Masyaf after he spent some time in Acre, where he got his new robes according to Assassin_M..
Ah, okay...
There was also the parts in the Desert. He said he traveled 10 months from Rome before going from Acre to Masyaf. At which point they showed various clips of his travels.

Also, on the Wiki page it talks about him departing with Bartolomeo and fighting pirates, where is that from? I can't seem to find a source.

Assassin_M
02-09-2012, 02:14 PM
Ah, okay...
There was also the parts in the Desert. He said he traveled 10 months from Rome before going from Acre to Masyaf. At which point they showed various clips of his travels.

Also, on the Wiki page it talks about him departing with Bartolomeo and fighting pirates, where is that from? I can't seem to find a source.
All of these events are from the Novel.. ****SPOILERS AHEAD !!!!*****



*SERIOUSLY, I SAID SPOILERS !!!*


AS YOU WISH
The Novel states that Ezio departed from rome on horseback and met Bartolameo on his way and he escorted him to his ship, and from there Ezio departed to Rhodes and then to Cyprus and spent some time there, oh forgot about some bits with a storm and pirates attacking Ezio`s boat, and then turns out that the same pirate is the same one that takes Ezio to Acre..

The13Doctors
02-09-2012, 11:03 PM
Which novel? Also, which novel had Daniel Cross' Story, I want to read it.