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Phil_C
10-13-2007, 01:38 PM
I am curious about what others feel about my new system, and if there are any changes that you would make.

Long story short, I have/had an Alienware 3.2GHz system (4gigs of ram, dual 7900GTXs in SLI and XP Home) but it has a major manufacturing defect. So much so, that it needs a new motherboard every 6 months. After replacing it 2 times, they are no longer willing to honor the warranty, or their repairs, so I am forced to get a new system (after just under 2 years), which will hopefully be more reliable. I do plan on fixing the Alienware, but only to sell, but needless to say, I will never buy anything from them again.

I cant be bothered with any more unreliable computers for a long time, so I said to myself that from what is available, I would *try* to get the best that's out right now. I have picked out the following components and was wondering how it will handle.

I like to stay in the 1600x1200x32 range, but with the new widescreen, I will most likely use a slightly higher resolution;

Intel Core2 QX6850 over clocked to 3.67GHz (quad core),4GB RAM, Dual GeForce 8800 Ultras in Sli mode, 320GB 10000 RPM Hard Drive (2 of the 160 gig Raid 0's at 1.5gb/s from WD), X-Fi PCI Sound Card with Logitech 5.1 surround speakers, Ageia PhysX Processor,48X Combo and 16X DVD+/-RW drives (I am still not all impressed with the HD, blue-ray or light scribe drives), Liquid cooling, 24"Widescreen. All running on Windows Vista home premium.

I have heard that windows does not use anything more than 2 gigs of RAM, but I have always been a subscriber to the "more is better"Ł theory, no matter what I hear, so that's why I picked up 4 for this system.

The physics card is not a big deal to most but I feel that it has potential, so that is why I picked it out. Plus most feel that it's too new for it to have any real impact, or to show any real difference.

Since Dx10 is upcoming, and that newer video cards support this, is there anything else I should be aware or concerned about?

Thanks for the help, I greatly appreciate it.

Phil_C
10-13-2007, 01:38 PM
I am curious about what others feel about my new system, and if there are any changes that you would make.

Long story short, I have/had an Alienware 3.2GHz system (4gigs of ram, dual 7900GTXs in SLI and XP Home) but it has a major manufacturing defect. So much so, that it needs a new motherboard every 6 months. After replacing it 2 times, they are no longer willing to honor the warranty, or their repairs, so I am forced to get a new system (after just under 2 years), which will hopefully be more reliable. I do plan on fixing the Alienware, but only to sell, but needless to say, I will never buy anything from them again.

I cant be bothered with any more unreliable computers for a long time, so I said to myself that from what is available, I would *try* to get the best that's out right now. I have picked out the following components and was wondering how it will handle.

I like to stay in the 1600x1200x32 range, but with the new widescreen, I will most likely use a slightly higher resolution;

Intel Core2 QX6850 over clocked to 3.67GHz (quad core),4GB RAM, Dual GeForce 8800 Ultras in Sli mode, 320GB 10000 RPM Hard Drive (2 of the 160 gig Raid 0's at 1.5gb/s from WD), X-Fi PCI Sound Card with Logitech 5.1 surround speakers, Ageia PhysX Processor,48X Combo and 16X DVD+/-RW drives (I am still not all impressed with the HD, blue-ray or light scribe drives), Liquid cooling, 24"Widescreen. All running on Windows Vista home premium.

I have heard that windows does not use anything more than 2 gigs of RAM, but I have always been a subscriber to the "more is better"Ł theory, no matter what I hear, so that's why I picked up 4 for this system.

The physics card is not a big deal to most but I feel that it has potential, so that is why I picked it out. Plus most feel that it's too new for it to have any real impact, or to show any real difference.

Since Dx10 is upcoming, and that newer video cards support this, is there anything else I should be aware or concerned about?

Thanks for the help, I greatly appreciate it.

VW-IceFire
10-13-2007, 01:51 PM
Windows Vista will, as far as I know, deal with 4GB of RAM just fine. Its Win XP that has the 3GB limit...I could be omitting some details in my mind and it may be only the Vista 64bit that really does the 4GB well...I'm not 100% on that.

With regards to DX10...only the GeForce 8800 and the Radeon HD 2900 from ATI will do DX10 in any sort of playable fashion at this point. There IS DX10.1 on the horizon and the cards coming out in the next couple of months are set to support that. Yes its true...soon as you buy something its outdated...no way around that one. If you can wait and you want to see what happens with video cards...there are new cards due by the end of the year.

stansdds
10-13-2007, 06:11 PM
Windows Vista will recognize 4GB RAM, as will Windows XP-64 bit. Windows XP 32 bit will recognize about 3GB out of 4, but the remaining GB is not listed, but Windows will use it as a RAM disc (if I recall correctly).

FoolTrottel
10-13-2007, 10:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">is there anything else I should be aware or concerned about? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, the Power Supply Unit... make sure you get a good one that can run it, and keep it running... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Phil_C
10-14-2007, 08:31 AM
Thanks for the replies.
Im glad to hear that i was wrong about the memory.

As for my powersupply, i chose a 1 KW one to feed this beast, and im guessing thats enough. But i could be wrong again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-24-2007, 12:16 PM
1. 1KW PSU will be plenty as long as it's rated for SLI (PC Power & Cooling ftw!)

2. Drop the PhysX card. CPU Magazine and Maximum PC have both repeatedly dissed them and in some cases they have caused performance SLOWDOWN while on the few occassions there was an increase it was almost imeasurable.

3. Since it appears money isn't much of an object, go for the 27" Dell 2707WFP monitor instead of the puny 24". Mine is the single best hardware investment I've made in literally years. Look at all the reviews...you'll thank me later.

Phil_C
10-24-2007, 02:08 PM
Thanks for the reply http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I dont have the room for a 27" right now, plus The power supply is designed for SLI so it should be ok... but from everythign i read anything over 600 should do just fine.

A 27" would be nice, but its such a massive jump for me from a 19" CRT to a 24 flat, that it already will be nuts for me.


As for the physics card, well the 2 mags you listed are not really ones i take advice from. From my personal experience, as compared to their articles and reviews, its complete oppisite sometimes.. ill just find out for myself- and anyway if it causes major slowdowns, i can always pull it out and not use it.

roybaty
10-24-2007, 04:41 PM
Another member of the Alienware Victims Group, I know 3 gamer friends who bought Alienware desktops or laptops, they have all blown up after the warranty date.

I always built my systems but 2 years ago I got a XPS from Dell (before they bought Alienware I believe). I expected problems big time, but not a hiccup. Having said this smoke will probably start billowing out of my PSU http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Pigeon_
10-25-2007, 08:34 AM
What about the motherboard? I don't see it listed...

You need windows Vista for DX10.

And, yeah... I don't get the purpose of the physX processor. You need games that are designed especially for the Ageia stuff and, from what I've seen, all those games suck...

Really nice system though... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Phil_C
10-25-2007, 02:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pigeon_:
What about the motherboard? I don't see it listed...

You need windows Vista for DX10.

And, yeah... I don't get the purpose of the physX processor. You need games that are designed especially for the Ageia stuff and, from what I've seen, all those games suck...

Really nice system though... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have Vista home premium.
I looked at some of the games that are upcoming, and there were a few i liked, so i picked it up anyway, but it was a chance i was willing to take on the system, so like i said, if worse comes to worse, out it comes :lol:
and as for the motherboard is just a 7-slot BTX motherboard.

I am much much happier now with this than i was with that alienware... too bad i still have it and cant get rid of it now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

alert_1
11-05-2007, 09:58 AM
DualCore is better form gaming then quadcore, the saying "the more, the betterů" is not always valid...

Phil_C
11-05-2007, 03:07 PM
well in any event, i got what i wanted, and i have no real regrets.. plus the articles i read and people who say that DC is better than QC dont really strike me as being either unbiased as to one form or another, or all that knowledgeable about the facts...

either way im happy and IL2 is insane on it!

TgD Thunderbolt56
11-06-2007, 08:43 AM
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