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blakduk
12-20-2005, 07:38 PM
I have recently started trying to master using pedals as opposed to using a twist-stick.
Has anyone else found it difficult to adjust to using your feet?
I feel really uncoordinated using the pedals- but i am also adjusting to the version 4.02 at the same time. I'm not sure which to blame- i do know that my poor ability to aim has really gone to sh*t now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

blakduk
12-20-2005, 07:38 PM
I have recently started trying to master using pedals as opposed to using a twist-stick.
Has anyone else found it difficult to adjust to using your feet?
I feel really uncoordinated using the pedals- but i am also adjusting to the version 4.02 at the same time. I'm not sure which to blame- i do know that my poor ability to aim has really gone to sh*t now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Udidtoo
12-20-2005, 08:03 PM
It doesn't take long before your feet are in tune. Its more a matter of unlearning that reflexive twist or reaching over the back of a X45 for rockers that are mapped elsewhere.

Couple weeks and you won't even think about it anymore. If your all over the place you might want to try some reduced settings in your config.

Freelancer-1
12-20-2005, 09:28 PM
The biggest problem I had moving from a twist stick was for some reason I was always pushing the wrong pedal. Really, I was almost at the point of mapping them in reverse.

In the end, though, after a couple of (sometimes very frustrating) weeks, all was good. Now, like my TrackIR, I can't imagine flying without them.

blakduk
12-20-2005, 09:53 PM
Freelancer-1; i found i was doing the same! I've actually looked a few times at the rudder pedals in the cockpit to make sure i have them mapped correctly. They do correspond to my inputs.
Its weird, i havent flown a plane for a few years but i have rewired my brain using a twist-stick! I have to unwire it back http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

horseback
12-20-2005, 09:58 PM
Took me a couple of days.

What helped me the most was setting the in-game rudder settings waaaay low at first, making the rudder adjustments quite a bit less abrupt. Twist rudders are more of a ummm- gross movement, shall we say? I always found myself having to compensate with ailerons and elevators for my twist rudder movements.

Didn't exactly make for great marksmanship.

I remember reading Eric Brown's appraisal of Forgotten Battles/AEP. He mentioned that most WWII aircraft (especially fighters) were very "rudder hungry", that you needed to add a LOT of rudder input to have a positive effect in them. Once you become conscious of the need for rudder input, and can see/feel the cause & effect of that input, it should become more natural for you.

If however, you find yourself unable to make a successful transition to pedals, I could use a pair for my living room computer...

cheers

horseback

Waldo.Pepper
12-20-2005, 10:06 PM
I have an office chair that swivels too. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Good times!

rnzoli
12-21-2005, 05:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blakduk:
Has anyone else found it difficult to adjust to using your feet? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes. For me practicing turns on the taxi-ways and once trying to land without ailerons (only rudder) helped to overcome, by quickly reprogramming my brain.

WOLFMondo
12-21-2005, 05:53 AM
Took me a little while but there very much worth it.

Doctor-Pain
12-21-2005, 06:54 AM
I still notice in hard battles that I twist the Stick in the right directing and kick the wrong pedal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
But It gets better with every flight. I especially try using rudder for landing as you can sideslip for better loosing speed which is almost impossible to koordinate with only Stick.
I also found it very helpfull to play BOB2 a few days ago, the FM there needs much more rudder at high speeds.

Worf101
12-21-2005, 07:11 AM
It's like going from being a guitar player to a dummer. You now have to think of using 4 limbs instead of two, particularly if you get a throttle as well. It'll take a couple of weeks or so then it'll be second nature. Trust me, I been there...

99th Worf101

BSS_Goat
12-21-2005, 08:06 AM
I feel your pain. I went from "terrible" to the "worst ever" when I got pedals. I'm still adjusting to them.

TC_Stele
12-21-2005, 10:35 AM
Same here. It took me almost 2 weeks to switch from the twisty to the pedal. I'd have to force myself to remember the pedals were there and at times I too did mistook right for left when trying to setup a rudder shot. It's just about breaking habits.

Chivas
12-21-2005, 12:33 PM
I hear your pain. I bought a set off Simped pedals a few years ago but my ego wouldn't give me the time to learn to use them properly. With the new 4.02 patch I can't hit anything anyway so I think this will be a good time to learn.

Just last night I tried plugging my old Simpeds into my current systems sound card game port but windows couldn't recognize them. Can anyone recommend a good set of usb rudder pedals, or can I get a gameport to usb converter to work. These simped pedals have four toggle switches on the gameport but I can't remember what they are for.

trumper
12-21-2005, 12:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chivas:
Can anyone recommend a good set of usb rudder pedals, . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I use the pedals from a steering wheel and pedals set from Logitech, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005U21B/102-9125743...13?v=glance&n=172282 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005U21B/102-9125743-9252913?v=glance&amp;n=172282)
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jimDG
12-21-2005, 03:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doctor-Pain:
I still notice in hard battles that I twist the Stick in the right directing and kick the wrong pedal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

and the answer is: you've been skiing too much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

han freak solo
12-21-2005, 07:29 PM
Some great master of the pedals wrote back in the spring. "BOING" and all will be well.

It's true. With pedals anyway.

Unknown-Pilot
12-23-2005, 07:54 AM
Twisty-sticks are the vile work of the devil.

Rotten pieces of trash that I would never even allow in my home, much less try to use. I'm not even sure I'd wish their use on my worst enemy.