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bloblast
05-22-2006, 12:08 PM
and nicely detailed.
Got this from the German IL-2 forum:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/bloblast/view00174my.jpg

bloblast
05-22-2006, 12:08 PM
and nicely detailed.
Got this from the German IL-2 forum:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/bloblast/view00174my.jpg

Foo.bar
05-22-2006, 12:21 PM
but they are manned in PF already... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

LEBillfish
05-22-2006, 12:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Foo.bar:
but they are manned in PF already... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not all, infact few, and not near to that detail.

BaronUnderpants
05-22-2006, 12:46 PM
As far as i know guns on for ex. aircraft carriers are manned in PF but turned of by default since it takes up alot of graphic power.

At least i think so.

bloblast
05-22-2006, 01:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Foo.bar:
but they are manned in PF already... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I play mainly eastfront, airfields are full
of AA-guns but no trace of any human. AA-guns
are very hard to hit in IL-2.

The screenshot promises a lot more.

NonWonderDog
05-22-2006, 02:16 PM
The new guns in the PE-2 expansion are manned (not to BoB detail!), but I don't think they show up in DGEN campaigns yet.

SaQSoN
05-22-2006, 03:33 PM
BoB will use ground vehicles (incl guns) from WWI:RTS. Those vehicles, that were made exclusively for the BoB, was made to the WWII:RTS requirements.
So, you may try seraching for the said game screenshots, to get an idea, how detailed will be the ground units in BoB.

Jaws2002
05-22-2006, 05:56 PM
I'd love to sit in a 40mm Bofors gun, have a beer and blast away at the vulchers. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Oleg_Maddox
05-23-2006, 06:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SaQSoN:
BoB will use ground vehicles (incl guns) from WWI:RTS. Those vehicles, that were made exclusively for the BoB, was made to the WWII:RTS requirements.
So, you may try seraching for the said game screenshots, to get an idea, how detailed will be the ground units in BoB. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Vladimir, you has very old info about it.
All models that you saw by the case are not from RTS game. 99% are done from zero. And just small part from RTS game are moved into BoB with great modification. Simply RTS do not model the theater that we model in BoB...
Really BoB sim has already better models than in RTS, becasue we are preparing the new series for more greater lifetime on the market than this RTS game. The standards are not RTS game standards. Not all features that are developed in models will be in use in release of BoB... They will be opened later (like we were opening new features and even second engine in Il-2 series) with the releases of more and more power home PCs.

However in future, because in RTS game are done a lot of ground models we plan to use them with modification to the standarts of BoB and coming after BoB series of WWII time sims.

So please do not distribute your opinion. It is wrong.

Also, if RTS used modified enough Il-2 engine, then BoB is completely new engine in all items, including physics. No one part of code from RTS game is present in BoB engine. However I must say that two of my team guys were constantly working over RTS game engine and vehchicles models for a long time. So you may see there visual effect of this work (in engine and especially in vechicles/tanks/artillery models).

The Aircraft in RTS game are from Il-2 series. But not all of them, just small part is present there for the gameplay (its not a flight sim you know).
You may meet our planes in several other released and coming games.... Again not all, but just part. One of them for example is "PT Boats" sim.

joeap
05-23-2006, 06:35 AM
Excellent Oleg...wow will need a new system for sure!!

SaQSoN
05-23-2006, 11:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
Vladimir, you has very old info about it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, as I stated in another thread at this forum, I know about BoB development almost as much, as any other forum participant, and my info is mostly based on your posts and official press-releases.

At some point, what I said about ground vehicles was true. Unfortunately, I didn't know, the things changed, but at least, due to my error we learned something new about the game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">All models that you saw by the case are not from RTS game. 99% are done from zero. And just small part from RTS game are moved into BoB with great modification. Simply RTS do not model the theater that we model in BoB... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I understand this. I only tried to say, that the level of detail for the ground units in the BoB will be as good (or even better), then in the WW2:RTS. I guess, this is still more-or-less correct? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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HotelBushranger
05-24-2006, 04:57 AM
Don't you two work together? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Very nice screeny, and thanks Oleg for the heads up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Michcich_303
05-24-2006, 04:59 AM
well said, Saqson. A development update at this stage would help - the 3 screenshots from E3 just add to confusion and the informal stuff going around makes the community uneasy...

KOM.Nausicaa
05-24-2006, 05:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Michcich_303:
well said, Saqson. A development update at this stage would help - the 3 screenshots from E3 just add to confusion and the informal stuff going around makes the community uneasy... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree--

269GA-Veltro
05-24-2006, 06:42 AM
Could we have the Luftwaffe uniforms for the flak's personal? In that pics i see the Wehrmacht uniforms...i'm wrong?

Kocur_
05-24-2006, 08:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
Could we have the Luftwaffe uniforms for the flak's personal? In that pics i see the Wehrmacht uniforms...i'm wrong? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean Heer - "land" army. Heer, Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine were parts of German armed forces, i.e. Wehrmacht.

Also I would recommend being worried not about uniforms but rather fact, that those guys are manning 40mm Bofors or soviet 37mm M39 and not 3,7cm Flak 18 or 36 or 37 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

bloblast
05-24-2006, 05:09 PM
Also I would recommend being worried not about uniforms but rather fact, that those guys are manning 40mm Bofors or soviet 37mm M39 and not 3,7cm Flak 18 or 36 or 37 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/QUOTE]

Bofors is a Swedish arm producer and exported to several countries. Germans captured thr 40mm Bofors from Poland and France and used it their selves. It was a quality weapon.

Fork-N-spoon
05-25-2006, 12:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jaws2002:
I'd love to sit in a 40mm Bofors gun, have a beer and blast away at the vulchers. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you're basically saying that you would be mostly shooting at yourself? He who laughs last...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/bolillo_quemado/jaws.jpg

partic_10
05-25-2006, 01:16 AM
SaQSoN, quick post some more out of date info!

Or maybe I'll try to achieve the same result.

I heard the BOB will use completely scripted campaigns and will model pilot movements within the cockpit and will feature a pilot damage model including organ and bone damage, etc, and it will include strafable livestock!

Over to you, Mr Maddox.
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Is "strafable" a word?

Kocur_
05-25-2006, 01:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bloblast:
Bofors is a Swedish arm producer and exported to several countries. Germans captured thr 40mm Bofors from Poland and France and used it their selves. It was a quality weapon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure was. It was produced in Poland as wz.37. But was it used in France before WW2? No 4.0cm Flak 28 (f) listed anywhere! Would you post any details?
Anyway ex-Polish, British, Dutch and Norwegian (Flak 28(p), (e), (h) and (n) respecively) 40mm Bofors' were used by Wehrmacht to some extent, yet they were non-standard equipment and were very rare compared to vast numbers of original German 3,7cm Flak 18, 36, 37 and twin barreled 43 in both towed and self propelled versions.

CD_kp84yb
05-26-2006, 03:09 AM
Hi

The 40mm Bofor came into service after 1938.
It was used by the Luftwaffe and the Kriegsmarine.
The first weapons came from Austria (licence build), these weapons were not named 4-cm-Flak Bofors (O) but simply 4-cm-Flak 28.

The countries that used this gun where:
Austria
Norway
Hungaria
Poland
Denmark
Finland
The Netherlands
Belgium
United Kingdom
Sweden
USSR
Romania
Yougoslavia
France
China
Canada
USA
and after 1938 Germany

The europian countries that build this gun with a license where:
Poland
United Kingdom
Austria
Belgium
Norway
Hungaria
France
Denmark

If i have forgot some countries, im sorry
The guns in the Luftwaffe and KM where newly build and occupied weapons. They never got the usual (country name) behind the short discription simply the geratnumber and 4-cm-flak 28 as L.Dv.626 in 1.5.1939 .

regards