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Loki-PF
05-25-2005, 07:57 PM

3.JG51_BigBear
05-25-2005, 08:31 PM
I've become a huge fan of the early p-40s lately. I love the challenge of taking them up against the hyper manueverable early Japanese planes. Heck even the Val gives that early P-40 a run for its money. But in comparing the P-40M to the Ki-61, you have to go with the Tony. Its a much nicer "feeling" airplane.

VW-IceFire
05-25-2005, 09:18 PM
The Ki-61 presented the P-40 with a real challenge. Although by mid-1942 most USAAF pilots had been taught how to dive onto Japanese planes to attack and then zoom away, the Ki-61 invalidated this tactic because it could dive just as well as the P-40.

That said, both planes are very similar in performance and there isn't much to choose from.

Maj_Death
05-26-2005, 12:00 AM
The P-40 and Ki-61 are two of my favorites. I'll gladly fly eihter one of them in a battle between the two.

LEBillfish
05-26-2005, 11:53 AM
Ki-61 my plane of choice in every encounter now....No it's not the best by far, weak guns, slow compared to many never hitting it's stated top speed.....But love it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Loki-PF
05-26-2005, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
The Ki-61 presented the P-40 with a real challenge. Although by mid-1942 most USAAF pilots had been taught how to dive onto Japanese planes to attack and then zoom away, the Ki-61 invalidated this tactic because it could dive just as well as the P-40.

That said, both planes are very similar in performance and there isn't much to choose from.

Cmon ICE! fess up, which one did ya pick? Or if you didn't pick, pretend you *had to* and pick one or the other.

ElAurens
05-26-2005, 06:56 PM
As you can see by my sig I am a fan of the P40 as well, however, the Ki61 is now by far my ride of choice. If it were only a bit faster... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Oh, and not to brag, but saunter over to the Warbirds home page and check who is the No.1 pilot in the Ki 61 Ko on the Zeke vs. Wildcat server.

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han freak solo
05-26-2005, 10:44 PM
All I need is the Ki-61 cockpit installed in the P-40. Perfect! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

JunkoIfurita
05-27-2005, 02:02 AM
C'mon Chunder - sing out and teach 'em the merits of the Tomahawk.

I think both the Ki-61 and P-40 will remain 'plane lovers' planes for good reason.

Both planes weren't the worst aircraft to fly, but neither were they anywhere near the 'best' in terms of performance and handling. P40 was outclassed by the 109s/190s of its time, and the Tony was completely outclassed by the mustang.

But, like the Sopwith Camel of yore, they were both planes that could really outshine anything if the skill of the pilot was testament. Likewise, they were both planes that would bite back hard if the skill of the pilot was found lacking.

So pilots (Like lebillfish and WTE_Chunder) are drawn to these aircraft both for their lovable idiosyncracies, and also because they know that, were they to be triumphant in their crates, nobody can palm it off onto superior technology.

I find I'm flying the Ki-61 more and more often online...definitely my favourite skip-bomber with those two 250kg bombs, but also one hell of an energy dogfighter at an advantage, with the maneuvarability to get out of a desperate spot should one occur.

Cheers,
WTE_Junkers (Junko 'Kimura' Ifurita)

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tigertalon
05-27-2005, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by Loki-PF:
Take the latest war variant of each type we have in the the game (42 I think?) and choose your fav!

In this match I would take Ki61-Ko and not late war ones... It has crappy guns (still enough to down P40), but a bit better performance.

With 4.0 things will change however, as I really hope we will get the real Mg151/20 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LeadSpitter_
05-27-2005, 11:39 PM
the p40e e field mod and M are overmodeled in a couple areas basically it has the fm of a 109 but a much slower speed.

Its definatly the closest matched fight in game the 109g2 vs p40e.

ElAurens
05-28-2005, 06:55 AM
Leadspitter, it's only a close match if the 109 pilot turns. The P40E is hopelessly outclassed in speed and climb by the G2. And then there is the issue of the totally unrealistic 109 emergency deceleration...

Loki-PF
05-28-2005, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
the p40e e field mod and M are overmodeled in a couple areas basically it has the fm of a 109 but a much slower speed.

Its definatly the closest matched fight in game the 109g2 vs p40e.

Leadspitter,

What areas do you think the P-40 is overmodeled in? Just curious....