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swambast
05-03-2006, 06:56 PM
I'm a P51 flyer and have been eyeing this add-on for a looong time - should I make the plunge or pass?

http://www.justflight.com/en/(20et0z554d0vh2rmhi2n4u45)...&cat=a&show=longDesc (http://www.justflight.com/en/(20et0z554d0vh2rmhi2n4u45)/index.aspx?rl=http://www.justflight.com/en/(20et0z554d0vh2rmhi2n4u45)/pages/area2/products.aspx?pid=JFF000399&cat=a&show=longDesc)

swambast
05-03-2006, 06:56 PM
I'm a P51 flyer and have been eyeing this add-on for a looong time - should I make the plunge or pass?

http://www.justflight.com/en/(20et0z554d0vh2rmhi2n4u45)...&cat=a&show=longDesc (http://www.justflight.com/en/(20et0z554d0vh2rmhi2n4u45)/index.aspx?rl=http://www.justflight.com/en/(20et0z554d0vh2rmhi2n4u45)/pages/area2/products.aspx?pid=JFF000399&cat=a&show=longDesc)

Irish_Rogues
05-03-2006, 07:04 PM
I just bought it as I'm more of a ETO guy and wanted the extra maps.

swambast
05-03-2006, 07:14 PM
Irish, I thought this focused on the Western front...? I have IL2+PF+AEP so I don't think there's any new maps, but maybe I'm overlooking something...????

SeaFireLIV
05-03-2006, 07:29 PM
BOE (Battles Over Europe), is as the name itself suggests over EUROPE, NOT the Pacific.

SeaFireLIV
05-03-2006, 07:31 PM
It`s not of the Eastern Front either, just the Western Front. (Damn thing won`t let me edit my first post - this forum editing is weird in GD).

SATAN_23rd
05-03-2006, 07:41 PM
Interesting, I did not know about this add on, is it compatible online with 4.04 even if the other players dont have it?

XyZspineZyX
05-03-2006, 08:11 PM
Take the plunge, I have it & its excellent. It covers the 1944 to 1945 Strategic bomber offensive as well as the push into France & Germany. There are 3 patches for it that give extras, in my mind this & The Last Days are brilliant. I am an off line player so my comments are only based on the off line experience

Skycat_2
05-04-2006, 12:27 AM
When my grandfathers, both of them WWII combat veterans who served in the US Army, described their experiences in France, Belgium, Holland and Germany they describe it collectively as the ETO. In their vernacular the 'E' meant 'European' Theater of Operations, as opposed to the Pacific Theater or anywhere else on the globe that GIs were being sent in 1943-5.

As for Battle Over Europe, I highly recommend it. It's best described as a 'missions and skins' expansion (no new planes or maps if you have AEP or the new Complete DVD) but it is the only way to get DGen campaigns for the Normandy and Ardennes maps. And before Pacific Fighters was released, BOE was really about the only way you could fly US or RAF DGen careers.

What I like about BOE is that it mixes up the type of missions you fly, at least if you're a P-47 driver. I've flown patrols, bomber escort, interdiction, and ground attack missions in the same campaign. There was a D-Day night mission that was especially memorable because there were searchlights and tracers and C-47s all in the same place.

Be forewarned that BoE doesn't work with Pacific Fighters 'standalone.' You need, at the very minimum, Forgotten Battles 1.0 but there are various BoE upgrades that support the AEP and PF expansions.

swambast
05-04-2006, 06:56 PM
Sounds like a pretty good buy then... I guess I'm going to invest in it soon. Are the airfields populated nicely? Is there a true sense of immersion and activity with the campaign?

danjama
05-04-2006, 06:58 PM
BOE is well worth it, nice skins, nice campaigns and missions included....

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-04-2006, 07:02 PM
As dasreich noted, they try to keep up with this sim by releasing patches that include campaigns for the new planes introduced since BoE's release - check out Airwarfare's site or Justflight for details. Big downloads, but worth it for the extra bits and pieces.

fordfan25
05-04-2006, 07:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by swambast:
I'm a P51 flyer and have been eyeing this add-on for a looong time - should I make the plunge or pass?

http://www.justflight.com/en/(20et0z554d0vh2rmhi2n4u45)...&cat=a&show=longDesc (http://www.justflight.com/en/(20et0z554d0vh2rmhi2n4u45)/index.aspx?rl=http://www.justflight.com/en/(20et0z554d0vh2rmhi2n4u45)/pages/area2/products.aspx?pid=JFF000399&cat=a&show=longDesc) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>i just bought it my self. yes its worth it just to have some Dgen campaigns for the 51 and 47 with out haveing to figure out those 3rd party programes "wich i never got to work http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif " . the price is good and shiping was great. alot of the missions are realy hard on the hardwear. lots of bombers and IMHO alot of unneeded ground targets well out side the main mission zone but great add-on.

luthier1
05-04-2006, 07:58 PM
Battle over Europe was my first commercial project. It's pretty old, from 2002, so it adds nothing to be sim that you don't already have in the area of planes or maps. However it does add a bunch of dynamic campaigns for Normandy and Ardennes for US and LW, plus a free patch available from Justflight also adds campaigns for the RAF.

Those campaigns are, in my opinioin, the best DGen campaigns available for the entire Il-2 series.

major_setback
05-05-2006, 01:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SATAN_23rd:
Interesting, I did not know about this add on, is it compatible online with 4.04 even if the other players dont have it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, it works online with 4.04m (merged).
I highly recommend it.

major_setback
05-05-2006, 01:54 AM
This thread has screenshots and lots of info on the add-on:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m...511022653#8511022653 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8511022653/r/8511022653#8511022653)

swambast
05-05-2006, 06:20 AM
Major_setback - wow, great link...Thanks! Luthier1, your work seems intriguing to me...I'm gonna pick this up real soon. Thanks for the efforts!

swambast
05-12-2006, 07:13 AM
OK, purchased today, looking forward to this...! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif