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VF-17_Jolly
04-12-2006, 04:56 PM
http://www.korean-war.com/images/KWAircraft/British/Short_Sunderland.jpg

VF-17_Jolly
04-12-2006, 04:56 PM
http://www.korean-war.com/images/KWAircraft/British/Short_Sunderland.jpg

SeaNorris
04-12-2006, 04:58 PM
Short Sunderland.

VF-17_Jolly
04-12-2006, 05:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaNorris:
Short Sunderland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No

mhuxt
04-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Short Shetland.

berg417448
04-12-2006, 05:22 PM
http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/html%20pages/SHORT%20S35%20SHETLAND.htm

VF-17_Jolly
04-12-2006, 05:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mhuxt:
Short Shetland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank You

slo_1_2_3
04-12-2006, 07:10 PM
Um... its british. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

-HH-Dubbo
04-12-2006, 07:18 PM
Damned ugly brute. Makes the Sunderland look positively athletic. Mind you I've always had a soft spot for the Sunderland

mhuxt
04-12-2006, 09:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VF-17_Jolly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mhuxt:
Short Shetland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank You </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No worries.

major_setback
04-13-2006, 03:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by -HH-Dubbo:
Damned ugly brute. Makes the Sunderland look positively athletic. Mind you I've always had a soft spot for the Sunderland </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Sunderland:

http://wmilitary.neurok.ru/wwii/sunder-d.gif

Shetland:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/avsund3.jpg

Me too. Sunderland:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/sunderlandvg1024b.jpg

HotelBushranger
04-13-2006, 03:21 AM
Me three http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

panther3485
04-13-2006, 03:24 AM
Me four

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And apparently, so did some Ju 88 crews!


Best regards,
panther3485

B16Enk
04-13-2006, 04:44 AM
Me 5

Fell in love with it as a child, there is a flying one in a private collection in the States IIRC.
Would love to see it.

The.Tyke
04-13-2006, 04:57 AM
Re. Shorts shetland... notice tail and cockpit canopy off a Shorts Stirling !
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/DingleRoad/Stirling010.jpg

Beaufort-RAF
04-13-2006, 04:58 AM
http://airventure.de/historypics/SaundersRoePrincess.jpg

Beaufort-RAF
04-13-2006, 05:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by B16Enk:
Me 5

Fell in love with it as a child, there is a flying one in a private collection in the States IIRC.
Would love to see it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here it is..... (http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraftpages/sunderland.htm)

Beaufort-RAF
04-13-2006, 05:06 AM
http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/gallery/sunderlandv800.jpg

Sturm_Williger
04-13-2006, 05:09 AM
Man, they built some butt-ugly stuff ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

panther3485
04-13-2006, 06:55 AM
Hi, Sturm_Williger

Quote:
"Man, they built some butt-ugly stuff !"

I don't go much on the Shetland, but I find the Sunderland quite appealing in its appearance (at least, compared to many other large flying boats that were around in the 30's and 40's).


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By the way, would anyone here care to define the differences between a 'Floatplane', a 'Seaplane' and a 'Flying Boat'? [Not trying to be a smart-a r s e here, as I'm not completely sure myself. My forte is tanks!]


Best regards,
panther3485

AWL_Spinner
04-13-2006, 08:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">By the way, would anyone here care to define the differences between a 'Floatplane', a 'Seaplane' and a 'Flying Boat'? [Not trying to be a smart-a r s e here, as I'm not completely sure myself. My forte is tanks!] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A flying boat has a hull (the Sunderland is a flying boat). The aircraft itself floats.

A floatplane sits on floats - the fuselage does not touch the water, unless you snap the floats off. In which case it'd likely sink. It's not a boat!

Not sure if a seaplane can be either but amphibians (hulls/floats and wheels for conventional landings) are often called seaplanes.

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Treetop64
04-13-2006, 09:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AWL_Spinner:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">By the way, would anyone here care to define the differences between a 'Floatplane', a 'Seaplane' and a 'Flying Boat'? [Not trying to be a smart-a r s e here, as I'm not completely sure myself. My forte is tanks!] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A flying boat has a hull (the Sunderland is a flying boat). The aircraft itself floats.

A floatplane sits on floats - the fuselage does not touch the water, unless you snap the floats off. In which case it'd likely sink. It's not a boat!

Not sure if a seaplane can be either but amphibians (hulls/floats and wheels for conventional landings) are often called seaplanes.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Arrrgh! I wanted to answer that!! Alas, you left an opening for me yet!

A Seaplane is a Flying Boat with landing gear, i.e. Seaplanes are amphibious, whereas Flying Boats are not (no landing gear, they can land on water only).

...I think... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

panther3485
04-13-2006, 11:16 AM
Thanks, AWL_Spinner and Treetop64

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I think I've got it now!

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Best regards,
panther3485

VF-17_Jolly
04-13-2006, 11:47 AM
Seaplane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaplane)

A Seaplane is the Generic term for a aircraft that uses water to land and takeoff.

So it can be a flyingboat, floatplane or Amphibian
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Rammjaeger
04-18-2006, 03:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beaufort-RAF:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/gallery/sunderlandv800.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is very similar to the Kawanishi H8K "Emily".

AWL_Spinner
04-18-2006, 04:12 PM
I always thought if I won a billion pounds I'd build a full-scale modern day replica Mosquito and Sunderland for personal use. The Sunderland I'd deck out inside like a houseboat and fly around the world stopping at exotic ports and so on. Be quite the talking point. Beautiful machine.

Taylortony
04-18-2006, 08:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AWL_Spinner:
I always thought if I won a billion pounds I'd build a full-scale modern day replica Mosquito and Sunderland for personal use. The Sunderland I'd deck out inside like a houseboat and fly around the world stopping at exotic ports and so on. Be quite the talking point. Beautiful machine. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Been lucky to see both of those birds fly in real life on numerous occasions in my past........... sadly the lack of interest (and funds) in the UK resulted in the Sunderland ending up as a glorified illuminated roadsign for Kermit Weeks........ A humiliating resting place for such a glorious warbird....

My friend from work was there at the end of them in Singapore where they where dragged ashore and scrapped.... sigh......

http://mysite.verizon.net/ianhon/sunderland.htm

http://mysite.verizon.net/ianhon/selsundhulk.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://image48.webshots.com/48/5/74/88/384557488ZrlcSh_ph.jpg

http://image26.webshots.com/27/7/7/16/384570716jzVtbr_fs.jpg

how they should be remembered
http://community.webshots.com/album/35863241TEEChG/0

http://image44.webshots.com/45/7/7/56/384570756zlACdq_ph.jpg

Beaufort-RAF
04-19-2006, 02:12 AM
Great links Taylortony. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Skarphol
04-19-2006, 04:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sturm_Williger:
Man, they built some butt-ugly stuff ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But they built some nice ones, too:
Dornier 26
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/Skarphol/Do26D-AGNTSeeadler.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/Skarphol/Do26P5DF.jpg

Skarphol