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KaleunFreddie
07-03-2006, 04:00 PM
There was going to be 4 guys from SAAF 2-Sqdn, Korea 1950-53, but only 3 made it. 2 saw extensive action in WW2 in Spits, and converted to 'old' P51's for Korea. This was the History Channel 'Live'.

Their accounts were 'only yesterday'. The vivid details of..
..having his buttocks shot to pieces..
..his old school friend spinning into the ground..
..his left leg shaking uncontrollably on the rudder pedals..

They were known to the ground controllers as ... 'WILDWEST'

With regard to their experiences..
The spit was a bugger on the ground, and landing it - narrow wheel base. It was also tricky in combat. The landing gear lever was a 'B' with an 'itch' - Quote " To raise the gear, your left hand hand to let go the throttle and grab the stick. with your right hand grab the U/C lever, shove it first left, then up, then right, and hold it there. If you let it go before the gear was up it would slip back and the gear would stay down."... OUCH!
"The Mustang could outdive any spit with ease, but the spit could outturn the mustang."
To them the Mustang was an incredibly stable gun platform - the best of them all.

"We shared a Mustang, there was this G-meter in the Mustang and it regularly showed up to 9 G's - this indicator stayed there and was not adjustable, so as to indicate the stress of the A/C. But this bugger came back with 12 G's on the clock" as he pointed to his life-long comrade, as they all laughed..

And when it all ended, the 12-G man spoke to me..
"it was terrible... All those helpless people, those children whose parents had died. I saw a 7-year old looking after a 6 month old baby. Those streams of refugees................."

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EDT: forgot to mention... They still had that wild twinkle in their eyes.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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KaleunFreddie
07-03-2006, 04:00 PM
There was going to be 4 guys from SAAF 2-Sqdn, Korea 1950-53, but only 3 made it. 2 saw extensive action in WW2 in Spits, and converted to 'old' P51's for Korea. This was the History Channel 'Live'.

Their accounts were 'only yesterday'. The vivid details of..
..having his buttocks shot to pieces..
..his old school friend spinning into the ground..
..his left leg shaking uncontrollably on the rudder pedals..

They were known to the ground controllers as ... 'WILDWEST'

With regard to their experiences..
The spit was a bugger on the ground, and landing it - narrow wheel base. It was also tricky in combat. The landing gear lever was a 'B' with an 'itch' - Quote " To raise the gear, your left hand hand to let go the throttle and grab the stick. with your right hand grab the U/C lever, shove it first left, then up, then right, and hold it there. If you let it go before the gear was up it would slip back and the gear would stay down."... OUCH!
"The Mustang could outdive any spit with ease, but the spit could outturn the mustang."
To them the Mustang was an incredibly stable gun platform - the best of them all.

"We shared a Mustang, there was this G-meter in the Mustang and it regularly showed up to 9 G's - this indicator stayed there and was not adjustable, so as to indicate the stress of the A/C. But this bugger came back with 12 G's on the clock" as he pointed to his life-long comrade, as they all laughed..

And when it all ended, the 12-G man spoke to me..
"it was terrible... All those helpless people, those children whose parents had died. I saw a 7-year old looking after a 6 month old baby. Those streams of refugees................."

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EDT: forgot to mention... They still had that wild twinkle in their eyes.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://www.vanjast.com/KoreaVets/KoreaVetsA.JPG

bunkerratt
07-03-2006, 08:10 PM
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Kaleun1961
07-03-2006, 08:14 PM
I tip my hat to those old vets, God bless 'em. I worked with a few Korean War veterans; not fliers, but infantry and tankers. They told some chilling tales of fighting the Chinese, especially at night time. They must've been scared ****less but they soldiered on.

Celeon999
07-05-2006, 08:34 AM
Celeon hears the theme of M*A*S*H http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Celeon999
07-05-2006, 08:47 AM
Here in germany one of our docu tv-channels sells a DVD with 2 1/2 hours of color footages from Korea made by John Ford (The hollywood guy). He was a cameraman during the war.

The original uncut material of course! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


There is a whole series now of these "uncut" DVDs avaible.

Celeon has one with 2 hours of uncut color footages from the battle of Iwo Jima.

Quite some gore in it. Lots of dead soldiers aswell as fighting footages but also the everyday life of a soldier, the boreness between the days of battle , the wounded in the the hospitals. Even footages within the surgery.

Some of the "super tough u.s marines" crying like babys.

All the stuff that was cut out before the footages were released for the u.s newsreels in it.

Very interesting as nothing is hidden from you.


Only thing : No sound. The cameras had no microphones.

But very atmospheric music from "the thin red line" played instead of that.


With such footages you really learn how dirty war is instead of the "cleaned" material they show in tv.


The "Korea war" DVD is not so bloody. Ford focused more on the everyday life of the soldiers and filmed fighting only from the distance.

He also filmed a MASH camp http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It looked exactly like in the tv-series. Even the californian landscape in which MASH was shot looks exactly like Korea.

And it was like shown in the series : Extreme hot weather in the summer and artic temperatures in the winter.