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SI90
01-04-2004, 12:25 AM
Is it just me or is the Mustang just as ***ile as the Messerchmitt , i can shoot down 3 mustangs in one mission, limited ammo and externals when i use the Focke Wulf and the 109 . I think that in real life the mustang was stronger than the 109, but in il2fb they are really easy to shoot down because they are not as strong as they should be

SI90
01-04-2004, 12:25 AM
Is it just me or is the Mustang just as ***ile as the Messerchmitt , i can shoot down 3 mustangs in one mission, limited ammo and externals when i use the Focke Wulf and the 109 . I think that in real life the mustang was stronger than the 109, but in il2fb they are really easy to shoot down because they are not as strong as they should be

Sturmvogel66
01-04-2004, 12:50 AM
I always heard that the P-51 was an excellent airplane, but it was pretty fragile in some respects...for instance, just like the 109, once the coolant tank is hit, its bye bye engine in a few minutes. There was a saying that I heard once, forgot who said it, but it went something like this: "If you want to send nice pictures back to your girl, fly a P-51, if you want to see your girl again, fly a P-47." It might have been a little stronger, but by no means was it super tough, so I would say it was just around as easy to kill as a 109.

S 8
01-04-2004, 01:26 AM
Now,the 190 and later 109 have a big punch to deliver,so I think it dosent matter what ac you aim at they will certainally go down if you hit them properly.One time i flew a 109G2,throwed all my ammo against a P40(at least half the 20mm ammo hit it) but I got it and he bailed out.Later I got two P40 with just a few rounds from my 20mm cannon (10 or so)so its all about aiming or in my case,luck.

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ElektroFredrik
01-04-2004, 02:37 AM
I think the mustang is sturdy and fragile at the same
time. I've read pilot accounts from Swedish Airforce
who flew them up tp '52 or so. Some ponys crashed
and people seeing the crash thought that pilot must be
killed instantly, but pilot survived without a scratch.
So Mustang is sturdy.
Also a pilot account states it as very fragile. A pilot shooting
at a ground practice target took a ricochet in the radiator
and had to land at the nearest airfield with overheated engine.
So Mustang is fragile.
But your aim is very important.

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VW-IceFire
01-04-2004, 08:06 AM
Everything I've read indicated that it was a mediocre fighter-bomber because of a VERY vulnerable engine. The rest of the plane is fairly tough but the engine is very weak and its definately not as well armored as a P-47 was PLUS you've got fuel tanks in nearly every section of the plane...so thats gotta increase the vulnerability to an explosive round doing some secondary damage.

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horseback
01-04-2004, 11:46 AM
You forgot to mention the size factor. The Mustang is a bigger target than either the Me-109 or FW-190, even the Dora, in planform, profile, and headon. It's simply a bigger airplane, and therefore easier to hit.

It needs to be flown faster than the German planes should be flown in order to be effective, and I expect that the majority of guys on the servers still don't have a full appreciation of the fact that flying faster makes you a smaller target and reduces the likelihood of an engine hit. As an added attraction, the German planes shouldn't handle as well at those higher speeds.

That appreciation will come, however, and in a couple of months, there will be much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth about those individual ponyboys spoiling all the fun for everyone else.

Cheers

horseback

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LeadSpitter_
01-04-2004, 12:40 PM
It seems to me the mustang has the weakest dm in the game moreso then the zero and 109, but its still fun to fly, also the 109s take more wing hits then the 190, the fighters that take the most hits are the la7 yak which is just wrong in my book

to me it seems the yak and la7 take equal ammount of cannon wing hits as the p47

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