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WUAF_Badsight
12-26-2004, 04:42 PM
well , did UBI leave the patch FTP unlocked by accident or what ?

Weather_Man
12-26-2004, 05:24 PM
I image people are off for the holidays. Probably nothing more than that.

Capt._Tenneal
12-26-2004, 05:31 PM
I agree, Badsight. Until crazyivan posts an official thread announcing the 3.03 or 3.04 release, or it's announced on the website, I'm not downloading that file.

I'm particularly suspicious, as I've read that the 3.03 going around has no il2_new.exe if you do a clean install 3.00 -> 3.03 . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

Red_Russian13
12-26-2004, 05:36 PM
I'm sure it's nothing. But I'm not downloading it either. Strange that the announcement came from someone not official. At least not obviously official (even with 1400 some odd posts). I'll wait.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
12-26-2004, 05:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
I agree, Badsight. Until crazyivan posts an official thread announcing the 3.03 or 3.04 release, or it's announced on the website, I'm not downloading that file.

I'm particularly suspicious, as I've read that the 3.03 going around has no il2_new.exe if you do a clean install 3.00 -> 3.03 . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The new exe came as a seperate optional patch in an earlier beta release. I suspect no changes have been made to this file in the recent patch hence no additional exe in this patch. If you have updated to 3.03 from 3.0 I would be willing to bet that if you were to download the 'new exe' patch that it will still work just the same as it did before.

Still its a judgement call and I doubt Ivan or any one else is gona loose any sleep over this during the christmas period. Go get drunk by the time you sober up it will probably have been sorted.

Hunter82
12-26-2004, 05:47 PM
that would be because it's not officially released yet....just some users hawking the ftp spotted it and posted it here....

no dedicated server yet so the hosts who are using it by renaming the files WILL have issues with crashes etc....they'll also start complaining how bad a patch it is and unstable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Capt._Tenneal
12-26-2004, 05:51 PM
So users are camping out in front of the FTP site ? I can imagine them in a queue wrapped in blankets and hot cocoa lining up for Springsteen tickets ha ha ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

clint-ruin
12-26-2004, 06:36 PM
Easy enough to set up a lot of FXP/FTP clients to auto-download anything new that appears on the site. It may be surprising to some but if you don't want thousands of people to go and download a file, just don't stick it on a public anon ftp.

J_Weaver
12-26-2004, 06:41 PM
OK, Stop the presses!!!!!!! Someone fill me in on what the heck is going on around here. Now that most of the holiday madness is over I can get back to PF. But I find myself very confused. The main site say nothing about 3.03 being out, there's no mention of it in the game update section but I 'hear' people talking about it. Have I or they had too much eggnog?

x6BL_Brando
12-26-2004, 06:49 PM
Wel, I read a post and explanation of this from Oleg on the day it came out. Didn't any of you see it??

In it he explained that the new_exe was needing more development and would be included in 3.04. He also stated that the new_exe WOULDN'T work in any of the 3.03 versions. Then he talked about the various new stuff in 3.03 and then wished us a Merry Christmas.

So how come all you guys are ****ging away? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Still drunk from Christmas? LOL

Von_Zero
12-26-2004, 06:57 PM
So i'm some kind of strange suspicious person, savaging ubi's ftps? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
For your gentlemens info, one of my squadmates found the link from Ubi and the one from Check-six, and posted it our squadron's forum. I hesitated at firs to post it here, cuz there was no word about it, but i thought "What the heck? i'ts Christmas, what could be a better gift?" Then i posted it here....
Also if how can you guys jump every new guy asking "why are the german gunsights not working?", and tell him to read the readme, if yourself don't read it? If you would have read it would have seen this:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Notice: The new method tested in 3.01 and 3.02 need more work for protection of possible online cheaters. So currently we release such exe file only for dedicated server. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This concludes my 1445 odd post. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
PS: x6BL_Brando, do you have a link to that post please?

Capt._Tenneal
12-26-2004, 07:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hunter82:
that would be because it's not officially released yet....just some users hawking the ftp spotted it and posted it here....

no dedicated server yet so the hosts who are using it by renaming the files WILL have issues with crashes etc....they'll also start complaining how bad a patch it is and unstable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm already seeing a bunch of " <so and so> bugs in 3.03 " threads in ORR, GD, and PF forums. But since the release is not offical yet, they aren't " bugs " till then huh ?

Hunter82
12-26-2004, 08:21 PM
bugs in game should be reported.

bugs for a host(s) who has renamed the sfs files to use a dedicated server before it is released...don't bother reporting....

There's a reason you have to download the complete package for the DS and it ain't so we can laugh about and point fingers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Alot of the posts I've seen about the game won't launch etc can be summed up with Oleg's post about the new exe.

I haven't had any problems with it yet but have had limited time due to holidays.

I'm playing co-ops until the DS is released then I'll have my server back up

WTE_Ibis
12-26-2004, 09:05 PM
I have completed a new install 3.00 to 3.03m
and it works perfectly.Not on new exe.
So far I am very happy with it,no probs at all.
Cheers, Ibis.

VFS-22_SPaRX
12-26-2004, 09:18 PM
I am with Hunter on this one. I tried running the server at 3.03 because so many requested it and i knew how to do it, but its just not working out. The memory leak that was in the 2.04 server is still there using the old server exe, so any server that has a high player load for long periods of time will crash. Therefore i am putting WarClouds back to the 3.02bm patch till Oleg and crew releases the offical 3.03/4 dedicated server with a proper exe.

S~
SPaRX
www.war-clouds.net (http://www.war-clouds.net)

ausmondo
12-27-2004, 12:23 AM
This is not the first time a patch has been made
available by 'Unofficial'* means.
For those of us who are not beta testers this
is too tempting to ignore.
How long has 3.02 been out, dangled in front of us newbies & the 'unknowing'?
If it is a problem,why doesn't ubi keep the door shut ?
*( I can remember when an unknown techie made the announcement of a new patch, or was it just the cleaners.)

Capt._Tenneal
12-27-2004, 09:13 AM
Straight from the source (Oleg) over at ORR :

" There was no official release of 3.03.....
Just someone clever spotted the ubi ftp and got the part of files from there...

However 3.03 ships officially with dedicated server only.
So simply wait official release "

tsisqua
12-27-2004, 09:15 AM
Originally posted this morning in ORR by Oleg_Maddox:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>There was no official release of 3.03.....
Just someone clever spotted the ubi ftp and got the part of files from there...

However 3.03 ships officially with dedicated server only.
So simply wait official release. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, there you have it. Oleg has been over there defending his FM's, loadouts, etc . . . just like always after a patch, so this content was to make it into the game, just not yet. In my excitement, I had it installed before I ever wondered.

The problem that this causes is minor for us, but probably will be a big headache for Oleg and 1C. Why? Because instead of telling us to reinstall, what he has done in the past is to make a patch to patch the patch that wasn't supposed to be patched. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Well, I will continue my offline play with 3.03m, since I haven't had any problems. I'm in the middle of a couple of very good campaigns, and haven't been online that much lately, anyway. I just thought what everyone else did at first: that we were getting a Christmas present.

Tsisqua

LStarosta
12-27-2004, 09:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
I agree, Badsight. Until crazyivan posts an official thread announcing the 3.03 or 3.04 release, or it's announced on the website, I'm not downloading that file.

I'm particularly suspicious, as I've read that the 3.03 going around has no il2_new.exe if you do a clean install 3.00 -> 3.03 . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


OMFG. This isn't the first time the patch wasn't announced on the website. Why would one think that a patch hosted on Ubi's OWN webspace with OFFICIAL documentation in the same format as usual is some sort of user created malicious object, I really don't know.

J_Weaver
12-27-2004, 09:31 AM
I think I'll just wait until its offically released. It kinda seems to me that maybe the patch isn't ready or something sinse it hasn't been offically released?

SeaFireLIV
12-27-2004, 09:35 AM
WWHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTT?

tsisqua
12-27-2004, 09:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by J_Weaver:
I think I'll just wait until its offically released. It kinda seems to me that maybe the patch isn't ready or something sinse it hasn't been offically released? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Peeps were wanting to know where the 3.03 dedicated server patch was, and Oleg said that it was to be released along with the 3.03 that we got early. He never said that 3.03 was bad, just that if you already had it, you would need to wait for the official release to get the server patch.

Tsisqua

Capt._Tenneal
12-27-2004, 09:51 AM
OMFG. This isn't the first time the patch wasn't announced on the website. Why would one think that a patch hosted on Ubi's OWN webspace with OFFICIAL documentation in the same format as usual is some sort of user created malicious object, I really don't know.

I'm not saying anything in the UBI FTP site is not " from UBI ". It is, it's just not official yet. Who knows by the time 3.03 is truly out, there will be some further fixes or additions that we don't see in the FTP version. Like the inclusion of dedicated server (according to Oleg). So I'd rather wait, OMFG. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

x6BL_Brando
12-27-2004, 10:32 AM
Well, I apologise. It seems I overlooked the bit about 3.03 components getting "staggered" in their release. But I see that the server is now out as well, so the release was obviously due sooner rather than later. I actually fly only Coop missions via HyperLobby, so the dogfight server thing just didn't occur to me. So I was quite happy to grab a completed version, as I imagine many offline players were too.

I think the notable thing is that some people somewhere were busy right up to and into the holiday, pulling this much-needed package together. A very nice gesture I think - as opposed to the "sorry mate, it's Christmas y'know, come back next year some time" kind of response. A great present. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LStarosta
12-27-2004, 10:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
_OMFG. This isn't the first time the patch wasn't announced on the website. Why would one think that a patch hosted on Ubi's OWN webspace with OFFICIAL documentation in the same format as usual is some sort of user created malicious object, I really don't know._

I'm not saying anything in the UBI FTP site is not " from UBI ". It is, it's just not official yet. Who knows by the time 3.03 is truly out, there will be some further fixes or additions that we don't see in the FTP version. Like the inclusion of dedicated server (according to Oleg). So I'd rather wait, OMFG. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

3.03 is NOT going to get updated. You don't patch a patch. It's not going to hurt you to download it now as anything that gets officially released will only be added to what has already come out (read: Dedicated server). So why don't you just download the patch so you can begin to enjoy all the Hyperlobby servers that are running this patch already, including Warclouds.

Capt._Tenneal
12-27-2004, 10:52 AM
It's all good. Will be downloading when I get home, since I'm at work right now. A sticky topic has been posted in the PF forum. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif