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Scolar
06-25-2009, 01:07 PM
This week I've mostly been playing the mission for today campaign called 'For Good Pilots' but am now completely stuck on one mission.

How can I get a P-38L from 10k metres down to the airfield in two minutes? I have tried using trim to pull out of 700kmph dives and once got on the landing approach before the 2 minutes were up and the mission was failed.
Has anyone on this forum done that particular challenge and would like to share your wisdom?

Scolar
06-25-2009, 01:07 PM
This week I've mostly been playing the mission for today campaign called 'For Good Pilots' but am now completely stuck on one mission.

How can I get a P-38L from 10k metres down to the airfield in two minutes? I have tried using trim to pull out of 700kmph dives and once got on the landing approach before the 2 minutes were up and the mission was failed.
Has anyone on this forum done that particular challenge and would like to share your wisdom?

BillSwagger
06-25-2009, 01:12 PM
airbreak???

DKoor
06-25-2009, 01:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scolar:
How can I get a P-38L from 10k metres down to the airfield in two minutes? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Don't know maybe it's a crazy mental trick mission.
Just try to lawn dart it at full speed.
Bail out before that of course.

I'll search for the mission I'm curious. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jaws2002
06-25-2009, 01:16 PM
I'm not a good pilot and I didn't try that mission, but in the L you have dive brake to keep your speed in check for the fast descent. Dive brake and a lot of rudder can really bleed that speed in the step dive.

Scolar
06-25-2009, 01:20 PM
Oh I never thought of the dive brake so I'll give it a shot!

Yes it is a good fun set of missions DKoor just search 'For Good Pilots'

Mr_Enjo
06-25-2009, 01:46 PM
I started playing them yesterday and can recommend them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Fave so far is the chimneys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TinyTim
06-25-2009, 04:38 PM
Guys after 5 or so years you're gonna get me play offline again. Got to try this.

WTE_Galway
06-25-2009, 05:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Enjo:
I started playing them yesterday and can recommend them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Fave so far is the chimneys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah the chimneys are crazy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

As for the 2 minute descent ... have not tried it, but maybe air brakes plus slip (crossed controls)to wipe off speed at last minute

ROXunreal
06-25-2009, 05:58 PM
Where can I get this campaign? Can't find it on the net

WTE_Galway
06-25-2009, 06:27 PM
Over on Mission4Today

Here's a link ...

http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3102 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3102)

M_Gunz
06-25-2009, 07:28 PM
In IL2 -- prop speed 100%, power to idle, open the rads, air brake and 6G descending turn will burn E like nuthin.

ROXunreal
06-26-2009, 04:20 AM
thanks for the link

ROXunreal
06-26-2009, 05:02 AM
Man this is great fun, I managed to finish the bridge mission from the third try, also landed on the carrier with a loaded Corsair from the first try without externals, and I only like landed on a carrier maybe 5 times in this game overall http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Trying to land a hellcat out of fuel on a carrier now, I always get there too fast though.

DKoor
06-26-2009, 05:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ROXunreal:
Man this is great fun, I managed to finish the bridge mission from the third try, also landed on the carrier with a loaded Corsair from the first try without externals, and I only like landed on a carrier maybe 5 times in this game overall http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Trying to land a hellcat out of fuel on a carrier now, I always get there too fast though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Haha... at first I thought I had to actually fly under the bridge http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/smileys/hammer.gif , of course end up in dirt every time. When I realized I had to land & taxi thru it, managed it in few tries.
Corsair wasn't a problem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif , I landed Hellcat in 1st try however without gears I caught the wire to high and just landed vertically from 2-3m on carrier deck (gears broke).
But hey... someone here said that every landing you can walk away from is a good one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

Anyhow... I'm in the 5th mission, J8A.

What.an.insanity.

It is very fun mission... it isn't even hard, doable at 1st try probably. But I'm stuck at it cursed with bad luck!
Enemy chase me around these "pipes" and whenever they hit one "pipe" the blast from their explosion got me too http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/smileys/hammer.gif .


Much fun!

FlatSpinMan
06-26-2009, 06:27 AM
Downloading as we speak. Sounds fun.

ROXunreal
06-26-2009, 06:30 AM
Landing under the bridges never even crossed my mind, I just got through them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif It's better to stay close to the bridges than close to the deck, after trying it a few more times I see most of my failures are because my prop hits the deck.

DKoor
06-26-2009, 06:49 AM
Ah... now stuck at P-47 dead stick landing.
I manage to overshoot the beginning of the runway, but my speed is around 150mph and somehow I always explode when touch the runway.
I'll try it couple more times.

Haha.... just landed at the end of the runway (managed not to explode) and the campaign didn't "recognized" it as "Mission Completed".
Jeez, I really hate when game does that.

Mr_Enjo
06-26-2009, 06:59 AM
Getting the B25 down and then up again was good fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

They seem to be getting easier as I go along though... or maybe I'm getting better?!?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Just had to escort the B24's... still not really sure what you had to do on that one lol

FlatSpinMan
06-26-2009, 07:50 AM
This is a laugh. I'm absolutely terrible, except for the landing the Corsair one which I did first attempt. Great fun to try though. I'm currently stuck on chimney hell. Man those Ace Gladiators can shoot. Their secondary explosions take me out a lot, too.

JtD
06-26-2009, 07:50 AM
Just restarted the campaign and boy I hate that smokestack mission. Died 10 times, mostly because the other planes exploding around me blew me up as well.

P-47 landing is pretty easy, set prop pitch to 0% and glide with around 260km/h and you should have no problem.

RPMcMurphy
06-26-2009, 07:56 AM
Oh man that fly-under the bridges with the 109 is hard. I keep getting killed. Its gonna be while. Arent those more like pipes or something?

ROXunreal
06-26-2009, 07:58 AM
I think I've met my match, the I-16 hangar landing mission. Just one more reason to hate that damn plane, a little control input and the thing dances all over the place. I don't think I'll pull that mission off without MANY more tries.

P-47 was easy, just aimed a bit above the horizon, too easy to shoot the bridges with the tempest (took out the AA train too) but damn the tempest is tricky to land, I failed on landing approach like 4 times, thing bounces like crazy. The chimney level was fun, as long as the other planes are coming at you from the side it's good, never let them come at you from the front, turn away if they do. I finished that mission without aileron controls.

Mr_Enjo
06-26-2009, 08:22 AM
I really enjoyed the I-16 landing and also the B-1 take off, I kept fowling the landing though.
On mission 20, I do feel that my landings are improving albeit slowly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mr_Enjo
06-26-2009, 11:50 AM
Can anyone land the 110 in the cliffs? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

JtD
06-26-2009, 12:03 PM
I haven't progressed that far into the campaign, yet. I've just done the P-38L landing. My favorites are the I-16 landing and BI-1 take off.

Scolar
06-26-2009, 12:12 PM
I'm now stuck on mission 22 with the landing the P-51. I really hate that plane now with its tendancy to flip forward on landing :P

DKoor
06-26-2009, 02:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ROXunreal:
I think I've met my match, the I-16 hangar landing mission. Just one more reason to hate that damn plane, a little control input and the thing dances all over the place. I don't think I'll pull that mission off without MANY more tries. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Believe me or not, I finished it in first mission, in my pretty much careless style http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif .
I actually lowered gears before the tunnel... then after I overflew the tanks I just pulled down in the tunnel hole http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif , after that part it was quite easy, much easier than 109 landing because I-16 is smaller. I just taxied thru the hangars and to the right and in the main hangar.

But I was extremely lucky.

Now I'm stuck with B-25 take off... that thing really sinks fast at the end of carrier I get ~80mph speed (IAS). End up in drink... of course after I land on carrier I taxi to the beginning of the runway, back. Then chocks, full throttle, a bit trim up, but no luck so far.

Mr_Enjo
06-26-2009, 02:24 PM
Try raising flaps and only lowering them once you're moving a bit quicker http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DKoor
06-26-2009, 02:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Enjo:
Try raising flaps and only lowering them once you're moving a bit quicker http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Got it! Flaps are the key... I need to hit around 100mph and deploy a bit trim up and flaps.
Thx.

Mr_Enjo
06-26-2009, 02:56 PM
Anytime http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Now tell me how to do the 110 mission! lol

I can take off but can't slow it down enough on landing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

JtD
06-26-2009, 03:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ROXunreal:
I think I've met my match, the I-16 hangar landing mission. Just one more reason to hate that damn plane, a little control input and the thing dances all over the place. I don't think I'll pull that mission off without MANY more tries. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Believe me or not, I finished it in first mission, in my pretty much careless style http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif .
I actually lowered gears before the tunnel... then after I overflew the tanks I just pulled down in the tunnel hole http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif , after that part it was quite easy, much easier than 109 landing because I-16 is smaller. I just taxied thru the hangars and to the right and in the main hangar.

But I was extremely lucky.

Now I'm stuck with B-25 take off... that thing really sinks fast at the end of carrier I get ~80mph speed (IAS). End up in drink... of course after I land on carrier I taxi to the beginning of the runway, back. Then chocks, full throttle, a bit trim up, but no luck so far. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I cheated and took off while the carrier was still moving. Landed, taxied back to the rear of the CV and took off from there. It was easy.

JtD
06-26-2009, 03:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Enjo:
Anytime http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Now tell me how to do the 110 mission! lol

I can take off but can't slow it down enough on landing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be the easy part. Do you know the slip maneuvre? You apply full rudder to one side and slightly bank the plane to the other, so it does not turn but kind of slips over the wing. This way you can lose a lot of altitude without gaining speed and you can do it quickly.

I had a problem taking off, but landing was a piece of cake. Gear down, flaps down, slipping into the canyon. One try and done.

DKoor
06-26-2009, 03:41 PM
Now to the B-24's... what are we supposed to do there?
After a while I get "Primary Target: Complete" after that it's the landing.
Is that all to it?

Mr_Enjo
06-26-2009, 06:13 PM
Not sure about the B24's.
Finally finished the 110 mission, thanks JtD http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

On the last mission now, are you in for a treat!
The only part I can't do atm is land at the end without damaging the plane.

Great fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RPMcMurphy
06-26-2009, 07:39 PM
To the guy who made For Good Pilots:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Object placement and all the long hours of work are appreciated.

Choctaw111
06-26-2009, 10:26 PM
I thought that this thread was for good pilots only and wondered if I should even come in here to check it out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I didn't realize there was a mission called "For Good Pilots".

WTE_Galway
06-27-2009, 12:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Choctaw111:
I thought that this thread was for good pilots only and wondered if I should even come in here to check it out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I didn't realize there was a mission called "For Good Pilots". </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


its this ... http://www.mission4today.com/i...file=details&id=3102 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3102)

JtD
06-27-2009, 02:49 AM
Completed the campaign. I got KIA 22 times (half of that in the Gladiator flying through chimneys), about as much as I get killed online within half a year! Good to know there's room for improvement. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Great campaign, my favorite missions are the I-16 landing, Bi-1 take off and of course the Ki-27 landing. Thanks to the maker, I had a lot of fun!

WTE_Galway
06-28-2009, 01:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JtD:
Completed the campaign. I got KIA 22 times (half of that in the Gladiator flying through chimneys), about as much as I get killed online within half a year! Good to know there's room for improvement. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Great campaign, my favorite missions are the I-16 landing, Bi-1 take off and of course the Ki-27 landing. Thanks to the maker, I had a lot of fun! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Congratulations, I still haven't cracked one or two of the missions.

RPMcMurphy
06-28-2009, 09:01 AM
I have been doing some of these missions after I get home from work. I just did the J8 in the smoke stacks; Hard, not easy.
And the YP80 landing in the rock canyon; that I liked. Me likey the YP80.
The P-47 with the bombs and no fuel; Hated-it. Had to land near the field but I got a success.
And then the famed I-16 in the hangars. I just did it. And "This bro was on! did'nt trip. Laid that sucka down to the bone like a mutha." It was hard. Very hard. But I got it.

DKoor
06-28-2009, 09:11 AM
Haha... check out the Bi-1 take-off inside hangars... at the end of the runway you have obstacles so you have to fly over them but not too high or you will hit the hangar roof http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .
I noticed that 60% throttle works best... as you gain speed in Bi-1 like mad, and that rocket interceptor has tendency to "nose-up" quickly which isn't exactly healthy when you fly inside hangars http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .
And the speed effect is just awesome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif .

I did that mission on "realistic" settings without time alterations.
It isn't as hard once you get the necessary feeling http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .

JtD
06-28-2009, 09:28 AM
For those who may not have been teased into trying this campaign, a track of a mission:

A track of the final mission (http://mitglied.lycos.de/jaytdee/tracks/goodpilotfinal.ntrk)

I flew my campaign with external on, made this track just now and also had cockpit off, but don't think that matters much. Having externals of course is a great help.

RPMcMurphy
06-28-2009, 09:42 AM
I'm looking forward to doing those missions. Too tired right now, I'll have to try later. But after landing the I-16 and taxiing to that hangar for a success I decide to turn around and try a take-off but my manually-raised gear did'nt quite clear those tanks in time and I bit the big one real bad.

SAW_343
06-28-2009, 06:45 PM
I just downloaded this and can't figure out how the install. Never downloaded a mission before. Can anyone with a little patience quickly tell me how
?

SILVERFISH1992
06-28-2009, 06:48 PM
Copy the folder and put it in one of the armies folders in the campaines folder in the missions folder in the games files, I think..... I havent done it in a while.

DKoor
06-28-2009, 07:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sawyer692:
I just downloaded this and can't figure out how the install. Never downloaded a mission before. Can anyone with a little patience quickly tell me how
? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Here... since it is fictitious campaign, no nationality, I created a special folder "NN" which represents campaigns that aren't bound to some particular air force.

Pic;
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/campaigns_folder.jpg

Here is inside of "NN" folder;
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/il2/campaigns_nn_folder.jpg
...it's a copy/paste work from .zip you just downloaded to here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .
You see the rest of (graphic & text) files?
I just copied those from Hungarian campaign, it doesn't really matter which one you copy here because it is fictitious anyway.

If you can find some custom fictitious medals/ranks for download, the better. Just put them here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif .

RPMcMurphy
06-28-2009, 10:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sawyer692:
I just downloaded this and can't figure out how the install. Never downloaded a mission before. Can anyone with a little patience quickly tell me how
? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Here is how I did it step by step:
Download it from mission4today (of course)
find it in My Documents and double click on it.
Then:
- Extract all files
- Browse
- My Computer
- C: drive
- program files
- ubisoft
- IL2 Sturmovik
- missions
- Single
- OK on extract prompt

then find Full MIssion Builder in the game.
then:
- File
- Load
- Single(Double click)
- For Good Pilots
- File
- Play

WTE_Galway
06-29-2009, 12:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RPMcMurphy:
then find Full MIssion Builder in the game.
then:
- File
- Load
- Single(Double click)
- For Good Pilots
- File
- Play </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Of course you can ALSO install it so that it plays as a normal campaign.

The obvious advantage of Full Mission Builder is that if you get stuck (and everyone does at some point in this campaign) you can skip a mission you are have trouble with and come back to it later http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RPMcMurphy
06-29-2009, 03:54 AM
I geuss I should have put it into a campaign then. But I am honorable. I have flown each mission in accordance with the intsructions given and unmolested.. I cussed alot, but I did it. But, wow. Those missions are really extraordinare.

This guy is good.
I mean that one with the N1K1 that must make 12 landings; that terrain is good, and I had never landed a B-25 on a carrier but now I can. This is some really impressive stuff for me. I was getting bored with IL2 until now. But this download has forced me to fly planes I had never flown before, and it has shown me stuff I didnt think possible in the game.

WTE_Galway
06-29-2009, 06:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RPMcMurphy:
I geuss I should have put it into a campaign then. But I am honorable. I have flown each mission in accordance with the intsructions given and unmolested.. I cussed alot, but I did it. But, wow. Those missions are really extraordinare.

This guy is good.
I mean that one with the N1K1 that must make 12 landings; that terrain is good, and I had never landed a B-25 on a carrier but now I can. This is some really impressive stuff for me. I was getting bored with IL2 until now. But this download has forced me to fly planes I had never flown before, and it has shown me stuff I didnt think possible in the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Indeed ... and not one mission involves shooting in combat.

ROXunreal
06-29-2009, 06:57 PM
I stopped at the b-25 carrier mission. i can land it with ease, touchdown with 190kph, a little rudder here and there with brakes and I'm done, but then slowly taxi to the other end of the deck, turn around, and try to take off. Argh. I mean, if I could just SPAWN on the deck and take off in another mission I'd be done with it already, but it's just too much of a chore to have to go through the landing and taxiing and turning around the carrier every time just to crash on landing again. Most speed I had when I left the deck was 120kmh methinks.

RPMcMurphy
06-29-2009, 07:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ROXunreal:
I stopped at the b-25 carrier mission. i can land it with ease, touchdown with 190kph, a little rudder here and there with brakes and I'm done, but then slowly taxi to the other end of the deck, turn around, and try to take off. Argh. I mean, if I could just SPAWN on the deck and take off in another mission I'd be done with it already, but it's just too much of a chore to have to go through the landing and taxiing and turning around the carrier every time just to crash on landing again. Most speed I had when I left the deck was 120kmh methinks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah that was tough. but I was able to get it stopped, taxi all the way back to the other end and there I put in chocks, cranked er up to full throttle then released chocks and I went to full flaps as I was rolling out and I put the gear up just when I cleared then end.

RPMcMurphy
06-29-2009, 07:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
Indeed ... and not one mission involves shooting in combat. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
yeah but I sure got shot the heck-up in that D3 by AAA in that pain in the butt mission, and there was a good bridge attack mission in the Tempest using rockets.

ROXunreal
06-30-2009, 06:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RPMcMurphy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ROXunreal:
I stopped at the b-25 carrier mission. i can land it with ease, touchdown with 190kph, a little rudder here and there with brakes and I'm done, but then slowly taxi to the other end of the deck, turn around, and try to take off. Argh. I mean, if I could just SPAWN on the deck and take off in another mission I'd be done with it already, but it's just too much of a chore to have to go through the landing and taxiing and turning around the carrier every time just to crash on landing again. Most speed I had when I left the deck was 120kmh methinks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah that was tough. but I was able to get it stopped, taxi all the way back to the other end and there I put in chocks, cranked er up to full throttle then released chocks and I went to full flaps as I was rolling out and I put the gear up just when I cleared then end. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Should I use FULL flaps for the B-25 takeoff? Because I only used take off flaps, thought the full flaps would keep me from picking up sufficient speed after I leave the deck. I also deploy flaps only after I reach 100kph at the very end of the runway.

RPMcMurphy
06-30-2009, 06:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ROXunreal:
Should I use FULL flaps for the B-25 takeoff? Because I only used take off flaps, thought the full flaps would keep me from picking up sufficient speed after I leave the deck. I also deploy flaps only after I reach 100kph at the very end of the runway. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, thats how I did it. I released chocks and about half way down the deck or at about next to the tower I just hit my flaps button a bunch of times until they were on there way to landing flaps and I was able to take off with engines going full throttle.

DKoor
06-30-2009, 06:18 AM
There is night/day difference between using flaps (I used take off position tho) and not using them.
I couldn't take off without flaps http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif .

T_O_A_D
06-30-2009, 06:37 AM
Ok fish on, downloading as we speak.

ROXunreal
06-30-2009, 10:43 AM
Cool, second try with full flaps worked, I was so close to the water lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I just released chocks and went down the whole deck without touching anything, at the end deployed full flaps and quickly retracted gear, and pulled up very slightly (my trim settings are an enigma to me).

Bi-1 takeoff was awesome, not too hart to get out of the hangars, much harder for me was to land and stop before hitting the hangar, I literally finished that mission without rudder which I lost on takeoff, and tipped over on my nose. I then had to apply some throttle and push myself tipped over on the nose towards the hangar a bit more to finish the mission, it was pathetic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Next was landing that Japanese plane under AA fire, man that plane was hard to figure out how to land, its stall speed with flaps is around only 140-150kph. I figured out the best way to end that when I got my engine taken out at the beginning. As soon as I got to the cover of the buildings I cut my throttle completely, flew over the hangar instead of under it (this is the only part of the campaign where I cheated), get back down to cover again, deploy full flaps and gear and land.

I'm now at the G-50 Liberator escort mission and I don't get what's supposed to be special there, tried it once, got to base, said target complete, then crashed on landing. Going to get that done now.

WTE_Galway
07-01-2009, 07:30 PM
Sooo ... how many people have actually successfully completed this campaign ??

Mr_Enjo
07-02-2009, 03:35 AM
I've survived all the way round the last mission but ruined the gear on landing and couldn't get it in the hanger, need to try it again! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RPMcMurphy
07-02-2009, 06:56 AM
I finished it last nite. The last mission flying through those cranes was real hard. I can't believe I actually made it. Sometimes I was'nt sure if I would shake the hand of the maker of that campagne, or choke him til his eyes popped out.
I'm making a short hi-lite movie with each mission getting about 6 to 8 seconds each.

ROXunreal
07-02-2009, 03:35 PM
I'm at the Bf 110 takeoff and landing mission, craziness. I guess I'm pretty near to the end, because this one is a climax in itself. I could not believe that I actually managed to take off from those canyons on first try, even though it seemed like I was gonna crash into the rocks I just barely made the "jump" over the rocks (ant there's a glitch that makes the cliffs turn invisible sometimes so I didn't know if I was gonna make it or just blow up from hitting an invisible cliff). Pulling up after the stall after flying over the cliffs was also hard because of all the stuff under my wings. I crashed on landing though. This is gonna be really hard.

DKoor
07-02-2009, 11:42 PM
Guys use trim during take offs and landing, makes things easier, you can almost fly at stall speed (i.e. squeeze out all possible energy) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .
Just a suggestion... I know it can be done with joystiq but it is easier this way IMO.

RPMcMurphy
07-03-2009, 12:05 AM
Well, here are my highlights from the campaign.
You might laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNYP-YX5sY8

Mr_Enjo
07-03-2009, 02:26 AM
Now go back and finish that P47 mission! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Nice video http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jure_502
07-03-2009, 04:16 AM
Murphy nice video! That video made me into it!
Downloading now! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

WTE_Galway
07-03-2009, 08:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RPMcMurphy:
Well, here are my highlights from the campaign.
You might laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNYP-YX5sY8 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

awesome

Jure_502
07-03-2009, 08:40 AM
Whaaaa!!!! This campaign is SO addictive, I love it!

I love Gladiator chimneys mission http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

And now, I'm off for 2 days and no Il-2 in 100km radius http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

RPMcMurphy
07-03-2009, 07:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Enjo:
Now go back and finish that P47 mission! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Nice video http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Did any of you guys finish the P-47 mission?
I got a go on it, but I did'nt do it right. I crash landed and I geuss I must have crossed the circumference line of the Target as my wrecked plane was sliding and thats how I got that Mission Complete. I found that mission to be a pain inth butt. Could'nt do it.

Heck they were ALL a pain in my butt.

ROXunreal
07-04-2009, 06:07 AM
My most wrongly finished mission was the Bi-1 landing, which I finished without rudder which I lost on takeoff, and tipped over on my nose for applying breaks too much. Then throttle up, and a nose slide to mission complete http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

FI.Spitsfire
07-04-2009, 09:08 AM
I've done them all properly up to the last mission where I have got through the tunnel but not landed properly! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RPMcMurphy
07-04-2009, 01:39 PM
I did the BI-1 wrong also because I landed it with out gear and thats how I was able to stop quick enough.
But how is the P-47 mission done. I could'nt figure that one out.

ROXunreal
07-04-2009, 01:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RPMcMurphy:
I did the BI-1 wrong also because I landed it with out gear and thats how I was able to stop quick enough.
But how is the P-47 mission done. I could'nt figure that one out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just aimed slightly above the horizon, prop pitch 0% and kept my speed around 260km/h

Landing is rather easy, getting over the fence is hard

FI.Spitsfire
07-04-2009, 02:15 PM
Aim at horizon, make sure you are trimmed(!), radiator closed, keep speed at about 280ish, only put the flaps down at the last moment to get you over the fence, same with gear, leave it as late as possible.
I made it quite easily after a few attempts using those rules http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ROXunreal
07-04-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm at the (last?) mission, flying through the cranes. I'll leave that for tomorrow.

The campaign was really great but I just wish there were more missions that had to do with actual flying (like the Bf-109, Bi-1 and Gladiator, which are also my favorites) than with landing. Also some missions were just redundant, like the "land at 73125 airfields". But overall it was great. I always found that after failing a mision for like 10 times, taking a multi hour break and trying again would make me finish it in the first few tries.

RPMcMurphy
07-05-2009, 06:01 AM
So what about the P-38L mission Scolar talked about when he opened this thread? That was the reason I started the thing in the first place to see what that was about but some of the missions would'nt load for me in my game and the P-38 one must have been one of them. They just wouldnt start. It was 2 or 3 that would 'nt run. I wonder what those were like.

WTE_Galway
07-05-2009, 11:58 PM
How did you try and load them ? Full Mission Builder ? What error message did you get ?

RPMcMurphy
07-06-2009, 06:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
How did you try and load them ? Full Mission Builder ? What error message did you get ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I loaded them into Full MIssion Builder and the ones that did'nt work would just sit there with the message "Stand by Loading Mission" and nothing would ever happen and after 6 or 8 minutes of looking at that I would just X out of it and move on to the next mission. The other missions began loading right away with no problem. I think I will reload the campaign and fly it as such so I can see those missing missions if its possible as a fix to the problem.
I really want to see that P-38L mission Scolar is talking about.

SteamBat
07-06-2009, 11:31 AM
I started playing this a couple of months ago and gave up after the "chimmneys", after reading this I feel "inspired" to carry - although any tips would be appreciated!

Jaws2002
07-06-2009, 04:18 PM
This missions are a Hoot!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Love it. That Gladiator bounced next to the chimmneys mission is a blast. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

WTE_Galway
07-06-2009, 07:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RPMcMurphy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
How did you try and load them ? Full Mission Builder ? What error message did you get ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I loaded them into Full MIssion Builder and the ones that did'nt work would just sit there with the message "Stand by Loading Mission" and nothing would ever happen and after 6 or 8 minutes of looking at that I would just X out of it and move on to the next mission. The other missions began loading right away with no problem. I think I will reload the campaign and fly it as such so I can see those missing missions if its possible as a fix to the problem.
I really want to see that P-38L mission Scolar is talking about. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you cant even load the missions in FMB to view the map ? Sounds like objects or aircraft may be missing from your install.

RPMcMurphy
07-07-2009, 04:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:

So you cant even load the missions in FMB to view the map ? Sounds like objects or aircraft may be missing from your install. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thats right. I think I will just re-isntall the campaign and see if that works. Thanks.

JtD
07-07-2009, 10:39 PM
Missing objects will simply not display but the mission will still load fine.

Engadin
07-08-2009, 06:54 AM
Probably you are not aware of the fact that author of the 'For Good Pilots' campaign is a professional airline pilot.

Engadin.

WTE_Galway
07-08-2009, 06:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Engadin:
Probably you are not aware of the fact that author of the 'For Good Pilots' campaign is a professional airline pilot.

Engadin. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That explains a lot ... its a very professionally constructed campaign.

AllorNothing117
07-09-2009, 01:39 PM
Just started this campaign! It's awsome, second fav after Richard Ira Bong. ^_^ Just landed the jet, P-80 I think, amongst the cliffs then set my engine on fire, lol! The Chimley mission was awsome, infact, they all were,love it!

ROXunreal
07-09-2009, 02:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Engadin:
Probably you are not aware of the fact that author of the 'For Good Pilots' campaign is a professional airline pilot.

Engadin. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He should try some of those feats in a 737 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jure_502
07-10-2009, 12:10 PM
I just can't believe it. I made the B-25 landing on carrier mission in FIRST try, probably that's one of the biggest if not the biggest achievment in Il-2 ever in my career!

Stuck on Bi-2 take off now...

RPMcMurphy
07-10-2009, 07:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jure_502:
I just can't believe it. I made the B-25 landing on carrier mission in FIRST try, probably that's one of the biggest if not the biggest achievment in Il-2 ever in my career!

Stuck on Bi-2 take off now... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Good job buddy. Out stucking fanding. That is good. You da man.

Musta did'nt trip, was on, and laid that sucka down to the bone like a mutha!

Jimston2008
07-11-2009, 07:16 AM
How do you install this campaign? thx to anyone who helps me in advance.

AllorNothing117
07-11-2009, 10:33 AM
Awsome campaign, if a litle confusing. Where was the chalange in the escort mission?

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-12-2009, 11:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RPMcMurphy:
Well, here are my highlights from the campaign.
You might laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNYP-YX5sY8 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice montage, lol. Shadows=1 makes me head hurt though, lol, I'd rather shadows=0 (no shadows) than shadows=1. Does shadows=2 slow your system too much?

JtD
07-12-2009, 11:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jimston2008:
How do you install this campaign? thx to anyone who helps me in advance. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You extract the zip file and copy the "for_good_pilots" folder into the \Missions\Campaign\RU folder of your Il-2 1946 installation.

JtD
07-12-2009, 11:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AllorNothing117:
Where was the chalange in the escort mission? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have no idea.

RPMcMurphy
07-12-2009, 12:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:

I'd rather shadows=0 (no shadows) than shadows=1. Does shadows=2 slow your system too much? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I've never tried messing with shadows, I'll have to check that out to try to improve performance, thanks.

McMosquito
07-17-2009, 04:22 PM
How do you guys manage to gather enough speed for takeoff in the B25 landing/takeoff mission? I've deployed the flaps just a few second before the end of the deck, but my speed is still around 120-130 kph (the carrier isn't moving). I start to accelerate from the very beginning of the runway with full power.

I'm supposed to wait until the carrier stops and then take off, right?

gorkyporky
07-17-2009, 04:37 PM
Any tips on how to do the chimney mission? I cant seem to survive very long.

ROXunreal
07-17-2009, 05:59 PM
It is essential that you taxi back to the beginning of the deck and take off BEFORE the carrier stops.

As for chimneys, fly low and keep your enemies to your sides behind chimneys/buildings, not to your front and back, so they crash into stuff while flying towards you

RPMcMurphy
07-17-2009, 07:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by McMosquito:
How do you guys manage to gather enough speed for takeoff in the B25 landing/takeoff mission? I've deployed the flaps just a few second before the end of the deck, but my speed is still around 120-130 kph (the carrier isn't moving). I start to accelerate from the very beginning of the runway with full power.

I'm supposed to wait until the carrier stops and then take off, right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You have to land on the carrier quick and do your re-take off fast or the ship will come to a stop. It was still moving when I did it.

McMosquito
07-18-2009, 02:47 AM
OK, I took off while the carrier was still moving. I guess I slightly misunderstood the mission briefing. Thanks!

In the chimney mission, it could be easier if you try to fly just outside the chimney area as close as the outermost chimneys as possible. The idea is to force the bogies to fly through as many chimneys as possible. This way their explosions have a lesser chance to harm you. Whenever there are bogies on the same side as you, just fly through the chimney area. And repeat.

It worked for me. I had to fly through the chimneys only 3-5 times, I think.

JtD
07-18-2009, 03:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gorkyporky:
Any tips on how to do the chimney mission? I cant seem to survive very long. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You don't really need to fly always through the chimneys, just try to keep them in between you and the next enemy wave. When I eventually made it I flew through them maybe 5 times in total.

Jure_502
07-18-2009, 05:43 AM
Ended campaign two days ago, Ki-27 mission was a liitle pain in the arsch, but was quite a fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I really enjoyed this campaign, gives you a new perspective what can you experince with this game, not only combat mission, undoubtfully 5 of 5 stars for this pack of missions, cap down for the maker! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

AllorNothing117
07-18-2009, 07:22 AM
Finished it about a week ago, awsome http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif top marks. My only critisism is of the B-25 mission... I can land a B-25 on a carier and take off from a carirer in a B-25. But trying to do one after another becomes very boaring as you must have many attempts and landing to get one atempt at take off. After about 8 attempts at Landing, giving me about 3 attempts at Take off I moved on to the next mission. I think it would be better if they were to seperate missions. But thats just me. Obviously the stuff is this campaign is for fun, not deadly serious. So I think it's o.k. to not have to do them one after another.

As another though, prehaps put the missions in order of dificulty? The escort one was very confusing, where was the twist? We weren't attacked.... It was just fly here then Land.

Overall it was very good 9/10 XD

gorkyporky
07-18-2009, 02:57 PM
How can you just jump onto the next mission? Just for informative purposeshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
BTW i finished the chimney mission, wasnt even that hard.

WTE_Galway
07-19-2009, 03:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gorkyporky:
How can you just jump onto the next mission? Just for informative purposeshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
BTW i finished the chimney mission, wasnt even that hard. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Load the mission in full mission builder and play from there.

JtD
07-19-2009, 03:21 AM
Disable no instant mission success, then you always can move to the next mission. Well, you have to be alive when you press escape.

WTE_Galway
07-26-2009, 06:32 PM
I notice this campaign seems to have had a substantial increase in downloads on M4T since this thread popped up. Amazing the effect one little thread can have.

wheelsup_cavu
07-26-2009, 06:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
I notice this campaign seems to have had a substantial increase in downloads on M4T since this thread popped up. Amazing the effect one little thread can have. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I see what you mean.
It's generated over three times as much interest in the campaign the past two months.


Wheels

RPMcMurphy
07-28-2009, 01:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RPMcMurphy:
Well, here are my highlights from the campaign.
You might laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNYP-YX5sY8 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice montage, lol. Shadows=1 makes me head hurt though, lol, I'd rather shadows=0 (no shadows) than shadows=1. Does shadows=2 slow your system too much? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Shadows=0
That did help alot. Another lesson learned. It makes the sim alot smoother and with no more hicups. I have been building a Pearl Harbor deffense mission using historical photos and placing ships in the right places and so on, but I almost gave up on it because it was to much for my computer but now that I have found how to put shadows=0 it is now very possible.
I just now killed ten AI ace Zeros and one B5N with torp with me taking off from Hickam Field durring the attack with unhistorical F4U1C, but I will continue trying it with a P-40. I love this sim. But the Shadows=0 thing really helped alot. Thnks again.

Freelansir1941
07-31-2009, 02:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ROXunreal:
Man this is great fun, I managed to finish the bridge mission from the third try, also landed on the carrier with a loaded Corsair from the first try without externals, and I only like landed on a carrier maybe 5 times in this game overall http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Trying to land a hellcat out of fuel on a carrier now, I always get there too fast though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Haha... at first I thought I had to actually fly under the bridge http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/smileys/hammer.gif , of course end up in dirt every time. When I realized I had to land & taxi thru it, managed it in few tries.
Corsair wasn't a problem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif , I landed Hellcat in 1st try however without gears I caught the wire to high and just landed vertically from 2-3m on carrier deck (gears broke).
But hey... someone here said that every landing you can walk away from is a good one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

Anyhow... I'm in the 5th mission, J8A.

What.an.insanity.

It is very fun mission... it isn't even hard, doable at 1st try probably. But I'm stuck at it cursed with bad luck!
Enemy chase me around these "pipes" and whenever they hit one "pipe" the blast from their explosion got me too http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/DKoor/smileys/hammer.gif .


Much fun! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DKOR,

I too decided to just land and taxi under the bridge. Seemed the sensible thing to do.

Btw, I wasn't getting any video intro to Test 2. Thought that strange, so knowing how campaign videos are made I took the video file for it and added a .trk to it and put it in the "records" folder to watch. It showed but only by using 408 vanilla.

Since the folks here are giving away tips on how to do the tests, what I show isn't giving anything away.

Have a look at how it's supposed to be done.

Really devious !

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4994/test2shoot1800.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8998/test2shoot3800.jpg