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Pig_Mac
04-22-2006, 03:27 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/xallo/HitlerMall.jpg

The screenie is taken from the MST3K version of 'Invasion of the Neptune Men' (Uchu Kaisoku-sen (1961)), and it gets blown up. Anyone got any info on what building it was? Was it even a real building or just some really strange piece of scenery made for the awful movie?

Pig_Mac
04-22-2006, 03:27 AM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/xallo/HitlerMall.jpg

The screenie is taken from the MST3K version of 'Invasion of the Neptune Men' (Uchu Kaisoku-sen (1961)), and it gets blown up. Anyone got any info on what building it was? Was it even a real building or just some really strange piece of scenery made for the awful movie?

GoToAway
04-22-2006, 06:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xallo_72:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/xallo/HitlerMall.jpg

The screenie is taken from the MST3K version of 'Invasion of the Neptune Men' (Uchu Kaisoku-sen (1961)), and it gets blown up. Anyone got any info on what building it was? Was it even a real building or just some really strange piece of scenery made for the awful movie? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Wow. I just watched that episode the other night. I think that might have been the best scene in the movie. Lots of cuts to various buildings, then a shot of the "Hitler Building" in the middle of it all. I nearly fell out of my chair.


About all that I can offer is that Hitler and the Nazi party really don't carry much of a stigma in Asia. Images of Hitler have been used to advertise things, for example. There's also a "Hitler techno bar" in Korea.

http://www.unpopart.org/readymades/gx/hitler_disco.jpg

HotelBushranger
04-22-2006, 06:12 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif That is odd...

JG53Frankyboy
04-22-2006, 06:28 AM
well, as a german, i was "saluted" with "Heil Hitler" in a pup in a small australian town in the early 90s http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

StG2_Schlachter
04-22-2006, 07:51 AM
I don't know for sure, but wasn't there a soccer match between Iran and Germany once ? When the German national anthem was played the Iranian folks in the stadium raised their right hand and made the "Hitlergru├č"

Hawgdog
04-22-2006, 07:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif That is odd... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is Asian! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Visit Engrish.com for a hoot

J_Anonymous
04-22-2006, 08:29 AM
I am sure this is just an image created for a movie. You see 4 chracters hanging on the exterior of the building. (I had a hard time to read them initially.) The text says "Wa Ga Tou Sou", which means "My Conflict". Isn't that the title of the book Hitler wrote? In fact, these are followed by a German word "MINE" ("my") on the right hand side. Given that the movie was created in early 60's, when Japanese intelectuals were left leaning, I guess they wanted to make a point by blowing it up?

J_Anonymous
04-22-2006, 08:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hawgdog:
That is Asian! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Visit Engrish.com for a hoot </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
This site is hilarious.... except the very first photo shown on the top page. "Nose" should be pronounced like "No Say" in this case, which is the name of the owner of this photo studio. We are all lucky that standard computer OS's (MS, Mac) were witten in the US by native English speakers. The world would have been a complete chaos if all the computer commands were defined in Japanglish or Koreanglish....

Pig_Mac
04-22-2006, 09:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by J_Anonymous:
I am sure this is just an image created for a movie. You see 4 chracters hanging on the exterior of the building. (I had a hard time to read them initially.) The text says "Wa Ga Tou Sou", which means "My Conflict". Isn't that the title of the book Hitler wrote? In fact, these are followed by a German word "MINE" ("my") on the right hand side. Given that the movie was created in early 60's, when Japanese intelectuals were left leaning, I guess they wanted to make a point by blowing it up? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But it was the badguys blowing it up (the neptunians) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The german title of the Book was Mein Kampf (and is the most boring book i ever read) But could've been an 'englification' of "Wa Ga Tou Sou", which means "My Conflict". And in that case just Serving as an ad for the book?

J_Anonymous
04-22-2006, 09:48 AM
I too tried to read both Marx and Hitler in Japanese in my youth, and they were both incredibly boring. I don't believe that the followers of those men actually read those texts! I have never seen any positive depiction of Hitler or his ideology in any forms in Japan. On the other hand, Japan is a country of democracy, and inevitably some folks could harbor crazy ideas --- but I really doubt that's the case in this movie scene.

A famous story about Japanese perception about Nazism .... In 1937, which was the Japanese year of 2600 ("the year of Zero" when A6M "Zero fighter" was developed), those blond teen agers of Hitler Jugent (&lt;-- spell?) visited Japan to help the celebration of the 2600 year rein of the imperial family. Those Hitler's men marched into what is now a part of the campus of the University of Tokyo. They were expecting a warm welcome by their counterparts, i.e. elite, clean-cut Japanese students. Instead, they were stunned to find themselves jeered by unwashed, long haired, unshaved Japanese students who all loathed totalitarism in Japan and elsewhere.

Pig_Mac
04-22-2006, 10:46 AM
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Feathered_IV
04-22-2006, 10:48 AM
I was in Hong Kong a bit over a month ago. I was passing a noodle bar one night on the Kowloon side and saw this guy. He was wearing a full SS uniform, complete with jackboots, armband and Iron cross first and second class.

The stupid bastard probably though he looked really cool.

FPSOLKOR
04-22-2006, 11:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
He was wearing a full SS uniform, complete with jackboots, armband and Iron cross first and second class.

The stupid bastard probably though he looked really cool. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hmm. Here in Russia befor a new law was emitted about forbiding nazi ideology and stuff i remember one such moron was caught on the street, and as there was no other way to make him tyake the uniform down they court martialled him as a "soldier of the enemy state" and for "using awards he was not officially awarded for private use and his own benefit". i do not remember exactly, but his time was somewhere around 15 years in jail...

joeap
04-22-2006, 11:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FPSOLKOR:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
He was wearing a full SS uniform, complete with jackboots, armband and Iron cross first and second class.

The stupid bastard probably though he looked really cool. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hmm. Here in Russia befor a new law was emitted about forbiding nazi ideology and stuff i remember one such moron was caught on the street, and as there was no other way to make him tyake the uniform down they court martialled him as a "soldier of the enemy state" and for "using awards he was not officially awarded for private use and his own benefit". i do not remember exactly, but his time was somewhere around 15 years in jail... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good lord, the only worse place to do that would be Isreal or Poland...I can't understand some of the young neo-nazi skinheads over there, have they forgotten what their grandparents went through?

horseback
04-22-2006, 11:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by J_Anonymous:
I too tried to read both Marx and Hitler in Japanese in my youth, and they were both incredibly boring. I don't believe that the followers of those men actually read those texts! I have never seen any positive depiction of Hitler or his ideology in any forms in Japan. On the other hand, Japan is a country of democracy, and inevitably some folks could harbor crazy ideas --- but I really doubt that's the case in this movie scene. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, Mein Kampf may have sounded very cool and grand in the original German. I can't count the times I've read hideously bad translations of books that were brilliant in their original tongues, at least to the people in that language group/culture, and wondered what the fuss was all about, or heard the grand titles that some of the tinpot dictators of the world have assumed and laughed myself silly because they sounded so pompous and dumb in English.

No doubt some grand and eloquent quotes from English sound small and silly to Japanese or Russian ears when translated directly...

cheers

horseback

Pig_Mac
04-22-2006, 11:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
I was in Hong Kong a bit over a month ago. I was passing a noodle bar one night on the Kowloon side and saw this guy. He was wearing a full SS uniform, complete with jackboots, armband and Iron cross first and second class.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd like to see him walk past: http://www.mosnews.com/files/13904/car.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sorry for derailing my own thread :P

J_Anonymous
04-22-2006, 11:25 AM
Yeah, Horseback, you are right. "The Old Man and the Sea" finally made sense to me only when I read it in English....

Vuco1
04-22-2006, 11:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GoToAway:
About all that I can offer is that Hitler and the Nazi party really don't carry much of a stigma in Asia. Images of Hitler have been used to advertise things, for example. There's also a "Hitler techno bar" in Korea.

http://www.unpopart.org/readymades/gx/hitler_disco.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bet those morons are playing Rammstein there all the time just because its on German and sounds violent.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IVI:
I was in Hong Kong a bit over a month ago. I was passing a noodle bar one night on the Kowloon side and saw this guy. He was wearing a full SS uniform, complete with jackboots, armband and Iron cross first and second class.

The stupid bastard probably though he looked really cool. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I remember I once popped on some site of some guys that have fetish on Nazi uniforms. REALLY SICK STUFF.

Pig_Mac
04-22-2006, 11:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by J_Anonymous:
Yeah, Horseback, you are right. "The Old Man and the Sea" finally made sense to me only when I read it in English.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I finally understood what was so great with Bukowski after hearing him read (old tape), and then reading it in english. The swedish translations don't hold up even close on most books I've tried. Sadly i only read swedish and english http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

FPSOLKOR
04-22-2006, 01:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by joeap:
Good lord, the only worse place to do that would be Isreal or Poland...I can't understand some of the young neo-nazi skinheads over there, have they forgotten what their grandparents went through? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
This is purely a politix of a hungry man. People tend to remember about autobahns and low jobless quantity, besides we get a lot of outsiders coming into country, what in turn leads to xenophobia. It has a lot of time to pass befor we will learn how to live togeather. Not sure if we will ever...

AldiTuetchen
04-22-2006, 01:58 PM
I know it's a bit off topic ,but i think it's part of the Theme. I'm german and i was in France 5 months ago. And some france poeple noticed that we're germans and welcomed us with a loud "Heil Hitler". We were surprised about that. But there was nothing we could do or say. They didn't belived us that we aren't nazis.

This happens all over the world, in other countrys we're still seen as nazis. This is were sad. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Snowman1025
04-22-2006, 01:59 PM
That always has confused me when I watch Invasion of the Neptune Men.


Very weird moment in the movie.