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Fliegeroffizier
05-15-2005, 02:58 PM
Tonite on History channel in US, 9PM Pacific time. Documentary about recovering the wreckage of the Hurricane that crashed after 'ramming' a Luftwaffe bomber, supposedly 'saving' Buckingham Palace..

Fliegeroffizier
05-15-2005, 02:58 PM
Tonite on History channel in US, 9PM Pacific time. Documentary about recovering the wreckage of the Hurricane that crashed after 'ramming' a Luftwaffe bomber, supposedly 'saving' Buckingham Palace..

LeadSpitter_
05-15-2005, 05:22 PM
Thats what they are closing off traffic for. It looks interesting but man does the cgi stink for the military channel http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also some airport in germany was there supposably many ac burried under the airport. I wonder what happened with that one.

wayno7777
05-15-2005, 07:53 PM
Watching it right now. They just found the main part of the engine under the water main.

3.JG51_BigBear
05-15-2005, 08:01 PM
Painfully boring.

Capt._Tenneal
05-15-2005, 08:17 PM
Isn't this a taran ? A lot of these happened in the Eastern Front, but I don't see the History Channel devote a documentary to these and place on them some sort legendary importance like they're doing here in this show. Western Front bias ?

3.JG51_BigBear
05-15-2005, 08:21 PM
I think if they found a group of Russians crazy enough to completely disrupt the downtown traffic of a major city to dig up fragments of a 60 year old engine, the History channel would gladly send a crew. I don't see this as a western bias, I see it as eastern common sense http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

arcadeace
05-15-2005, 10:57 PM
I don't understand the disapointment here. The story itself is remarkable, it looks as tho Buckingham Palace was indeed saved. And we get the firsthand account of the crash from the doomed Hurricane's pilot, Ray Holmes. What a man.

boxmike
05-16-2005, 02:11 AM
That is a remarkable story; the original action and then the tenacity of recovery group facing city officials must also have been enormous. And a nice moment to old man, to get back his spadegrip from control column.
I have seen that stricken bomber many times before in documentaries and WW2-related news. Only recently learned what it was all about.
I read it all happened almost exactly over the Palace. Some bombs tore through spinning bomber, one entering Palace through roof only to stop in a bathroom near Royal apartments, rest fell into Palace grounds, some of them igniting.
Also learned that during BoB, only two planes crashed into Central London area, the two in question now.

-box

The.Tyke
05-16-2005, 05:46 AM
I saw this when it was on in the UK.
I thought the really funny thing was that, no matter how hard the presenter tried to get Ray Holmes to be interested in his crashed Hurricane, he seemed to be a lot more intersted in the women in the pub !

TgD Thunderbolt56
05-16-2005, 06:20 AM
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What a stud

WIFC_Phantom
05-16-2005, 06:25 AM
The amazing thing is that is crashed in Victoria (i think) Railway station briging down the whole suspended glass roof but no-one was hurt...except maybe the german bomber crew...no-one ever asks about them!

Beaufort-RAF
05-16-2005, 12:30 PM
I've just read his book. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I haven't seen the program and maybe they mentioned this but intriguingly before he rammed the bomber his aircraft was showered with oil.

To cut a long story short the plane was fitted with an experimental flame thrower, this being confirmed by a historian who corresponded with three surviving crew members.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I thought the really funny thing was that, no matter how hard the presenter tried to get Ray Holmes to be interested in his crashed Hurricane, he seemed to be a lot more intersted in the women in the pub!
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In the book he tells how a sex mad blonde WAAF insisted he sneaked her into his room after a night out.

He bottled out though & slept next door.

When he came back to his room in the morning she'd pinned her knickers on the wall! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Anyway I would heartily recommend the book to everyone; it's called 'Sky Spy'.

He had a remarkable war, even apart from the Bob.

He had a long operational spell on Hurricanes, spent the middle part of the war as an instructor & became operational again in 45' flying recon Spits over Germany.

Don't think late war ops were easy either.

He had a string of hair raising encounters with Me262's & Me163's and was very lucky to survive.

What will be of real interest to people on this forum though is that he just happens to have been one of the Murmansk Hurricane pilots. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

From the reaction of the locals, shooting down a 109, being bombed, training the Russians pilots, the terrifying convoy home, it's gripping stuff. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Anyway it's an extensive book, full of great storys (like being court martialed for circling his house at 50 feet on a training flight and sending a neighbour into premature labour) and it's one of the very best by a fighter pilot I've read.

I've nicked a pic from a website.

http://dortch.supremeserver5.com/images/British/SkySpy.jpeg.JPG

DarkStar68
05-16-2005, 03:25 PM
What a great story - I don't know how this one got by me. But why did 1c make the hurri with metal skin?

Capt._Tenneal
06-29-2005, 08:01 AM
I just heard over the radio that Ray Holmes just passed away at age 90. RIP.

BBC link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/4630075.stm)

snafu73
06-29-2005, 10:26 AM
As the Historian Richard Holmes said, "Ordinary men called on to do extraordinary things"

Thank you Mr. Holmes, to you and all your brothers in arms.