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Taylortony
08-28-2008, 04:02 AM
Poor Guy, I do hope they can now return him home to the funeral he deserves and the family that miss him.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/28/2349562.htm?section=justin

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/28/2348489.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/photos/2008/08/28/2348711.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200808/r286644_1222393.jpg

Taylortony
08-28-2008, 04:02 AM
Poor Guy, I do hope they can now return him home to the funeral he deserves and the family that miss him.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/28/2349562.htm?section=justin

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/28/2348489.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/photos/2008/08/28/2348711.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200808/r286644_1222393.jpg

Darth_Reagan
08-28-2008, 04:28 AM
Incredible story. It reminds us all that these events were real and it all happened not so long ago. RIP.

SeaFireLIV
08-28-2008, 04:33 AM
Now that`s interesting. At first I thought it was a joke. It looks like a teddy bear in harness.

RIP.

joeap
08-28-2008, 04:43 AM
I've read that story. I hope they find out who it is but...I remain a bit sceptical. Only because I find it hard to believe a body - skeleton actually - would remain intact even with a harness after 60+ years. I'm not a forensic scientist though so I don't know.

SeaFireLIV
08-28-2008, 04:48 AM
Well, it takes a very long time for a body to completely fall apart. I suspect that the harness, uniform and the jungle itself with the vines and moss have helped keep him together.

Feathered_IV
08-28-2008, 05:13 AM
Did the US use synthetic fibre in their harnesses? Might explain how it managed to hang together.

stalkervision
08-28-2008, 05:22 AM
I thought all these people were equiped with jump knives to cut themselves out of their rigging. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

LovroSL
08-28-2008, 05:30 AM
he could have banged his head when he jumped out of the airplane, broke his neck on when he fell on the floor, lost his knife...

RegRag1977
08-28-2008, 05:30 AM
He was probably badly injured, or even alerady dead at the moment he reached the trees.

Poor man

Taylortony
08-28-2008, 07:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
I thought all these people were equiped with jump knives to cut themselves out of their rigging. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They are but this might be a clue why he didn't if indeed he did survive the entry through the canopy.

"Photos taken by Mr Collins show an object that appears to be a human body hanging about 15 metres above the ground".

luftluuver
08-28-2008, 07:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Well, it takes a very long time for a body to completely fall apart. I suspect that the harness, uniform and the jungle itself with the vines and moss have helped keep him together. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A basic guide for the effect of environment on decomposition is given as Casper's Law (or Ratio): when there is free access of air a body decomposes twice as fast than if immersed in water and eight times faster than if buried in earth.

The most important variable is a body's accessibility to insects, particularly flies. On the surface in tropical areas, invertebrates alone can easily reduce a fully fleshed corpse to clean bones in under two weeks.

BrotherVoodoo
08-28-2008, 10:12 AM
Incredible story, thanks for sharing.
R.I.P.

Urufu_Shinjiro
08-28-2008, 10:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luftluuver:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Well, it takes a very long time for a body to completely fall apart. I suspect that the harness, uniform and the jungle itself with the vines and moss have helped keep him together. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A basic guide for the effect of environment on decomposition is given as Casper's Law (or Ratio): when there is free access of air a body decomposes twice as fast than if immersed in water and eight times faster than if buried in earth.

The most important variable is a body's accessibility to insects, particularly flies. On the surface in tropical areas, invertebrates alone can easily reduce a fully fleshed corpse to clean bones in under two weeks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, I would think the jungle insects alone would have done away with most of him.

b2spirita
08-28-2008, 11:21 AM
Poor sod, i just hope it was quick for him, whoever he might be.

cawimmer430
08-28-2008, 01:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LovroSL:
he could have banged his head when he jumped out of the airplane, broke his neck on when he fell on the floor, lost his knife... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or maybe...

Chute Shooting

It happened. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

zardozid
08-28-2008, 01:23 PM
I hope it doesn't turn out to be a mannequin hanging from a tree...

MB_Avro_UK
08-28-2008, 02:20 PM
Hi all,

A human body would deteriorate very rapidly in Jungle conditions. Even without the activities of insects etc. Once the flesh has gone, the bones would fall to the ground.

It maybe possible that a synthetic flight-suit has survived and has become covered in mould or fungus.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

KG66_Gog
08-28-2008, 04:00 PM
I don't think it's fake. It was discovered by Australian Police officers who were walking the Kokoda Track and I think they did some initial checking to make sure it was what it appeared to be.

luftluuver
09-04-2008, 10:14 AM
DEFENCE MEDIA RELEASE
&gt;
&gt; MSPA 287/08 Thursday, 4 September 2008
&gt;
&gt; DISCOUNTED - KOKODA TRACK REPORT
&gt;
&gt; Australian Defence Force staff from the Australian High Commission in Port Moresby today reached an isolated site on the Kokoda Track to check reports that the body of an airman was located in the jungle canopy.
&gt;
&gt; No remains were located.
&gt;
&gt; While the location, near Kagi, is below a flight path that was commonly used by allied aircraft during WWII sorties, the find has been confirmed by ADF staff as a moss covered branch.
&gt;
&gt; It appears the branch has broken off the main tree and fallen across some vines, which from the ground, could have been confused with the body of an airman.
&gt;
&gt; Media contact: Defence Media Liaison: 02 6265 3343 or 0408 498 664

MB_Avro_UK
09-04-2008, 02:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luftluuver:
DEFENCE MEDIA RELEASE
&gt;
&gt; MSPA 287/08 Thursday, 4 September 2008
&gt;
&gt; DISCOUNTED - KOKODA TRACK REPORT
&gt;
&gt; Australian Defence Force staff from the Australian High Commission in Port Moresby today reached an isolated site on the Kokoda Track to check reports that the body of an airman was located in the jungle canopy.
&gt;
&gt; No remains were located.
&gt;
&gt; While the location, near Kagi, is below a flight path that was commonly used by allied aircraft during WWII sorties, the find has been confirmed by ADF staff as a moss covered branch.
&gt;
&gt; It appears the branch has broken off the main tree and fallen across some vines, which from the ground, could have been confused with the body of an airman.
&gt;
&gt; Media contact: Defence Media Liaison: 02 6265 3343 or 0408 498 664 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Buzzsaw-
09-04-2008, 07:35 PM
Salute

This is a fine example of why the American media is at its lowest ebb right now.

Nobody I know who works in Canadian or British Television would show this picture out of respect for the dead person. Imagine the effect such a picture would have on a relative, or a spouse when this person is identified.

This is a person who sacrificed his life for his country. Whether he was American, Australian or Japanese.

US Television is chock full of this kind of tabloid Cr*p, meanwhile it ignores its journalistic duty to expose wrongdoing.

All one has to do is look back at the 8 years of George Bush's Presidency, and all the lies and distortions which that administration perpetuated, while the media kissed a** and ran live 'victory' announcements from aircraft carriers.

Doesn't take a genius to see there is something seriously wrong. But that's what you get when Billionaire owners set the agenda and pre-select the 'prettyboy/Barbiedoll' broadcasters they put in front of the camera.

berg417448
09-04-2008, 07:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Buzzsaw-:
Salute

This is a fine example of why the American media is at its lowest ebb right now.

Nobody I know who works in Canadian or British Television would show this picture out of respect for the dead person. Imagine the effect such a picture would have on a relative, or a spouse when this person is identified



</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess you failed to notice that the ABC news that published this photo is the Australian Broadcasting Corporation and not the American ABC?

I'm also guessing that you posted without reading the entire thread. This photo isn't a body at all.

buzzsaw1939
09-04-2008, 09:18 PM
I'm afraid he gotcha Buzzsaw,.. however I totally agree with you about the American media! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Meurig06
09-05-2008, 03:41 AM
Happily it turns out it is not a body. Just some vines that coincidently look like a body when viewed from below.

Check HERE (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7599398.stm)