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Taylortony
09-15-2007, 09:19 AM
Being reported on the news here, possibly fatality is the pilot, it crashed away from the show....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Some members of the forum went to the show today I believe

Taylortony
09-15-2007, 09:19 AM
Being reported on the news here, possibly fatality is the pilot, it crashed away from the show....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Some members of the forum went to the show today I believe

Bearcat99
09-15-2007, 09:22 AM
Ohhhhhhh no. Not another one.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

DKoor
09-15-2007, 09:24 AM
Any more info about pilot/plane?

DrHerb
09-15-2007, 09:26 AM
3 pilots also killed at Reno air races on Sept 14th http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gifhttp://www.foxreno.com/news/14116133/detail.html

Taylortony
09-15-2007, 09:26 AM
Not confirming the type yet on the BBC news...... Film on tv just shows a smoking pyre halfway up a hill http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6996734.stm

think it may be the 109 used in the top part of the display

http://www.shorehamairshow.com/displays/air.html

ploughman
09-15-2007, 09:29 AM
Very sad. Hope the pilot made it. Sounds bad though.

Kurfurst__
09-15-2007, 09:30 AM
It's not yet clear what's happened, or it was a 109 at all... did a google (well, it's amazingly fast finding new stuff, this news is basically up a few hours at worst!). I've saw on some other BBs it's confirmed not being a 109..


WWII plane crashes near airshow
BBC breaking news
A plane taking part in an airshow has crashed, according police.

A spokesman for Shoreham Airshow in West Sussex confirmed the aircraft - which is thought to be a World War II plane - went down in countryside.

He said the accident happened away from the airfield on Saturday afternoon and no spectators were hurt.

It is not clear how many people were on board the plane but the spokesman described the accident, which happened one mile from the airfield, as serious.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6996734.stm

SeaFireLIV
09-15-2007, 09:32 AM
We have got to start being more careful! Between losing P51s, 109s and other historical aircraft we will soon have nothing left for our children to see!

Of course, the Human loss is the worst tragedy.

Taylortony
09-15-2007, 09:39 AM
IT is the Hurricane G-Hurri that is now Duxford based and used to be the Breighton all black one....was seen to go nose in, reports suspect engine failure during dogfight...see links.... The Spits at the show have done a missing man flyby, no chute was seen. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

http://forums.airshows.co.uk/cgi-bin/ukarboard/ikonboar...?;act=ST;f=1;t=38222 (http://forums.airshows.co.uk/cgi-bin/ukarboard/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=1;t=38222)

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=292244

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44118000/jpg/_44118653_airshowcrash203.jpg

Commiserations to the Families involved, Pilot was Killed, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif Have been told who it was, but it's not been released yet until the familes are informed.

JG52Uther
09-15-2007, 09:41 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif very sad news.

Kurfurst__
09-15-2007, 09:50 AM
It's a sad day to aviation. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

May he rest in peace..

mmitch10
09-15-2007, 10:03 AM
A sad day indeed. A Tiger Moth crashed too (unrelated incident), luckily no fatalities

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6996070.stm

bigbossmalone
09-15-2007, 10:12 AM
Not been a very good week for aviation, in general, has it?
Condolences to all relatives and friends of those who have died.
R.I.P. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Blutarski2004
09-15-2007, 11:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
It's a sad day to aviation. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

May he rest in peace.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


..... Agreed.

Friendly_flyer
09-15-2007, 11:15 AM
G-HURR, wasn't it recently overhauled? It's a IIb if I'm not mistaken.

F22-NightHawk
09-15-2007, 11:23 AM
G-Hurr was restored a few months ago for tom blair.John Romain was the test pilot for it.

Durchstarten
09-15-2007, 11:39 AM
Very sad. Check out ExSimGuy's report here:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=292264

DPS.

Whirlin_merlin
09-15-2007, 11:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F22-NightHawk:
G-Hurr was restored a few months ago for tom blair.John Romain was the test pilot for it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe it was 'Flypast' that recently had an article (and cenerfold) about the job.

However sad it is to loose a piece of histroy, beneth the sentiment it is just so much wood and metal.
The human loss is so much greater.
Thoughts for the pilots family.

heywooood
09-15-2007, 12:14 PM
flying has a risk factor...

is it worth the risk to see these planes in their natural environment - that being flight?

do we continue until all of the few remaining warbirds and many of their crews are gone?

it means alot to me to be able to go to my nearby airport and see a Grumman F4F-4 fly and hear a merlin engined P51 warm up and take off...there is no other way to feel what you feel when you are there for that...but I think after our generation is gone - there will be no more interest in seeing prop fighters / bombers from that era flying.
It will be enough I think for generation Z lets call them - to visit the museums and see static examples (if any historically valid ones are left that is) in their diorama settings and leave the flying to less aged and fragile replicas...if they care to see them fly at all that is.

I don't know about you guys - but when I go to an airshow it seems like the most of the crowd looking at the WWII stuff is my age or close to it if not older than me...sure there are a few kids on dads shoulders or holding grampas hand - but not so many teens or twenty somethings at all.

Sure a few of the people reading this post are in that age group but talk about a sliver of a demographic - and thats in here where we're all big fans. Looking at the big picture it seems like mostly self indulgence is keeping these planes in the air...do WE want to see these planes fly - even until the last one is spent and gone?

I feel sorry for those airmen (and their families) in their loss - but they lived their lives well, doing what I and many of you would love to do and would take the opportunity to do, trading places in a heartbeat...assume the risk full well knowing it might one day stake its claim on us.
That is the deal for a pilot - especially a demonstration pilot.

general_kalle
09-15-2007, 04:15 PM
at Battle of Britain day.
how ironically

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-15-2007, 04:16 PM
My god has this been a bad year for aviation...very sad.

S!

ploughman
09-15-2007, 04:20 PM
It seems that the former world champion rally driver Colin McRae perished today in a helicopter crash near his home in Scotland.

link (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article2461339.ece)

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

VF-17_Jolly
09-15-2007, 04:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
It seems that the former world champion rally driver Colin McRae perished today in a helicopter crash near his home in Scotland.

link (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article2461339.ece)

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OMG what Sh**y day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

flyin_scotzzman
09-15-2007, 04:47 PM
Very sad news indeed. First the tragic crash of the Hurricane with the loss of the pilot, and then the loss of Colin Macrae with his five year old son and two friends.

Very hard to accept. Condolences and prayers for all the family members concerned with these tragic accidents.

JG52Uther
09-15-2007, 05:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by flyin_scotzzman:
Very sad news indeed. First the tragic crash of the Hurricane with the loss of the pilot, and then the loss of Colin Macrae with his five year old son and two friends.

Very hard to accept. Condolences and prayers for all the family members concerned with these tragic accidents. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
+1 God what a tragic day for aviation.

dogstar4000
09-15-2007, 05:12 PM
http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentre/showthread.php?t=15669

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/new...2014&in_page_id=1770 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=482014&in_page_id=1770)

VV_Holdenb
09-15-2007, 06:17 PM
Plane believed to be G-HURR bd707
a Hawker Hurricane Mk XII
if so :
for pictures of plane taken by Mick Bajcar taken at flying legends Duxford
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=...&distinct_entry=true (http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=G-HURR&distinct_entry=true)

A thread of another forum.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=80faed364...72073af8f41&t=292247 (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=80faed364e1f5c3c8bc5f72073af8f41&t=292247)


A very sad day, My thoughts are with pilot & immedate family. RIP "flown into the hand of God" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

dogstar4000
09-15-2007, 06:46 PM
Well, that tallys.

Hanglands kipped at mine last night, went to S'ham-on-Sea and went home today.

He says he foto'd the flight line at 10 am, and again at 4:30pm because the light was better. He said BD707 (AE@C) was there in the morning but not the afternoon.

So if the the crash apparently happened at just after 3:30pm....

Salute to the pilot. Condolences to his beloved.

Esel1964
09-15-2007, 10:43 PM
What a shame, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif,these accidents are happening at an alarming rate.

I hope the FAA and CAA don't start restricting warbird airshows.
I can see where they may push for more frequent inspections(makes sense-they're 60+ y.o. planes),but that'll mean fewer planes and higher prices at airshows;but,human lives are more important than airshows.

But,it's been a bad time recently for historic planes,and their pilots-God Bless them all. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

ddpairborne59
09-16-2007, 12:48 AM
Very sad indeed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gifIs it just me or has there been too many lately. Very sad.

Taylortony
09-16-2007, 05:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Esel1964:
What a shame, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif,these accidents are happening at an alarming rate.

I hope the FAA and CAA don't start restricting warbird airshows.
I can see where they may push for more frequent inspections(makes sense-they're 60+ y.o. planes),but that'll mean fewer planes and higher prices at airshows; http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have to put you right on this, I am sorry but I here this all the time...

They are NOT 60 yr old Aircraft...... people do not realise that when you restore one of these things a lot of the structure is replaced with new........... It may suprise you to know that sometimes all that is left of the "original" and I use that term loosely could be just the data plate.... " Original" infers the genuine item as left the factory..... well, during the war and after wards, tail feathers, wings, Undercarriages and engines etc would have been replaced as she went along.....mods would update and replace other parts, such as change of props.....

Ok now lets look at the genuine Mk 1 Hurri recovered from India of late and restored to flying condition. most of it would have simply been used as a pattern, woodwork would be 99% new, as would all the steel and structure, the engine may have been overhauled, but again that's a maybe.

A Spitfire that lives close to me is one of the rarities as it has been in continious service since the mid 40's, but again that goes through painstaking maintainance to a standard and cost that would stagger you. You say more frequent maintainance, well, the whole aircraft has a maintainance check and oil change every 10 HOURS, oil is then sent to the lab for inspection. It recently flew off grass, and being a heavier than normal spit type to operate off grass the complete main undercarriage was removed and all the mountings were NDT inspected for damage before its next flight.

Back to the "60 yr old" line, another Spit that lived here was rebuilt here as well, the ONLY REMAINING PARTS of the ORIGINAL SPIT were the LEFT LEADING EDGE and the DATA PLATE.. everything else was brand new in the Airframe.

Now you may say its not a genuine WW2 Spit, well, neither were the ones in service after the war, as I have explained above, parts are replaced, so what is left can be a shadow of the original plane.

What I would say however is it is not the planes at fault, but possibly the way we as the paying customer expect to see it operated, low level, thrilling aerobatics and stomach churning action........ less aeros and a higher display with straight and level passes would reduce the chances of something like this happening and give the pilot time to react, but would you pay to see that? well yes you may, but a lot wouldn't.
Sorry, but in the age we live in I would bet you that some of the audience go along just hoping to see something like this tragedy unfold.......

Crashes will happen and indeed do all the time in aviation, the fact that it was a Hurricane brought it immediately to the fore on the news, again with inaccurate and sensational reporting churning up all the warbird crashes in the last 20 years... you could nearly count those on your fingers in the UK..........

You would need a calculator to run up the list of GA and commercial losses in the same period, I know I get all the AAIB reports on my desk every month as part of my work.. but again unless a major celebrity or a historical aircraft is lost it would never reach frontpage news the world over.... such as the two tragedys of late Colin McCray and Steve Fossett.
Oh and in case you are worrried, you have more chance of getting killed crossing the road than flying.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

trumper
09-16-2007, 05:20 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif An excellent post Tony http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif
Without commenting on this weekend as i was'nt there or know the facts i have seen warbird crashes before and i am convinced in the majority of times another 1000 feet in height or a different manoeuvre would've given a chance of recovery or lessening the impact.
As you say people don't want to see the planes flown high and sedate like that.
May he R I P and his family find some peace somewhere in the future.

zardozid
09-16-2007, 12:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What a shame, Nuh uh,these accidents are happening at an alarming rate.

I hope the FAA and CAA don't start restricting warbird airshows.
I can see where they may push for more frequent inspections(makes sense-they're 60+ y.o. planes),but that'll mean fewer planes and higher prices at airshows;but,human lives are more important than airshows.

But,it's been a bad time recently for historic planes,and their pilots-God Bless them all. Sad </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


At the risk of sounding insensitive (which I'm not, I feel for the family's that must be devastated by their unexpected and tragically public loss).

But I fear that the frequency of these accidents will prompt the "we know better then you" bunch to call for restriction's and termination on these types of "Air events" (air show & races)...

The golden age of flying was a deadly adventure with rich rewards and I for one would hate to see the "living tributes" to this age regulated out of existence...

I'm sure that many of these pilots (who died) would hate it if their life's legacy was that banning of something they loved so much. These pilots lost their lives sharing something with the public that they where fortunate enough to be a part of...and these men recognized the importance of keeping these "warbirds" (air events) available to the public...

It is a shared history that should not be locked away in a "Safe" box...

<span class="ev_code_PINK">EDIT: If anyone wants to see some footage of that day "click" here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ7NtuWOpTg&NR=1).</span>

(their is nothing too graphic in this video clip...just some black smoke and a little smoking wreckage.)

B16Enk
09-16-2007, 04:53 PM
Having had the privilege of filming in a professional capacity at Duxford recently I can say that the authorities have a new take on air displays.

Specifically the US Air force now forbid anything other than straight and level flight, unless the pilot has been trained and approved otherwise.

Yes the paying public wants to see warbirds used as they were intended, but this has intrinsic risks as it demands more of the human component and indeed the aircraft.

As Taylortony has pointed out these WWII are at least as good as the originals that flew, if not better, but human error and mechanical failure will still occur.

This Hurricane loss, and more importantly it's pilot, may be either mechanical failure or pilot error. We may never know the truth.
Either way it is a great loss and my ~S~ to the pilot and his family.

RIP.

Esel1964
09-17-2007, 12:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Esel1964:
What a shame, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif,these accidents are happening at an alarming rate.

I hope the FAA and CAA don't start restricting warbird airshows.
I can see where they may push for more frequent inspections(makes sense-they're 60+ y.o. planes),but that'll mean fewer planes and higher prices at airshows; http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have to put you right on this, I am sorry but I here this all the time...

They are NOT 60 yr old Aircraft...... people do not realise that when you restore one of these things a lot of the structure is replaced with new........... It may suprise you to know that sometimes all that is left of the "original" and I use that term loosely could be just the data plate.... " Original" infers the genuine item as left the factory..... well, during the war and after wards, tail feathers, wings, Undercarriages and engines etc would have been replaced as she went along.....mods would update and replace other parts, such as change of props.....

Ok now lets look at the genuine Mk 1 Hurri recovered from India of late and restored to flying condition. most of it would have simply been used as a pattern, woodwork would be 99% new, as would all the steel and structure, the engine may have been overhauled, but again that's a maybe.

A Spitfire that lives close to me is one of the rarities as it has been in continious service since the mid 40's, but again that goes through painstaking maintainance to a standard and cost that would stagger you. You say more frequent maintainance, well, the whole aircraft has a maintainance check and oil change every 10 HOURS, oil is then sent to the lab for inspection. It recently flew off grass, and being a heavier than normal spit type to operate off grass the complete main undercarriage was removed and all the mountings were NDT inspected for damage before its next flight.

Back to the "60 yr old" line, another Spit that lived here was rebuilt here as well, the ONLY REMAINING PARTS of the ORIGINAL SPIT were the LEFT LEADING EDGE and the DATA PLATE.. everything else was brand new in the Airframe.

Now you may say its not a genuine WW2 Spit, well, neither were the ones in service after the war, as I have explained above, parts are replaced, so what is left can be a shadow of the original plane.

What I would say however is it is not the planes at fault, but possibly the way we as the paying customer expect to see it operated, low level, thrilling aerobatics and stomach churning action........ less aeros and a higher display with straight and level passes would reduce the chances of something like this happening and give the pilot time to react, but would you pay to see that? well yes you may, but a lot wouldn't.
Sorry, but in the age we live in I would bet you that some of the audience go along just hoping to see something like this tragedy unfold.......

Crashes will happen and indeed do all the time in aviation, the fact that it was a Hurricane brought it immediately to the fore on the news, again with inaccurate and sensational reporting churning up all the warbird crashes in the last 20 years... you could nearly count those on your fingers in the UK..........

You would need a calculator to run up the list of GA and commercial losses in the same period, I know I get all the AAIB reports on my desk every month as part of my work.. but again unless a major celebrity or a historical aircraft is lost it would never reach frontpage news the world over.... such as the two tragedys of late Colin McCray and Steve Fossett.
Oh and in case you are worrried, you have more chance of getting killed crossing the road than flying.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't try jumping down my throat over every word I said;I don't mean them all in the literal sense.
I regularly read Warbird Digest and know exactly what you're saying(Glacier Girl for instance)-AND I HAVE FOR YEARS,I grew up as a 'hangar rat'.My dad was a pilot,and when he'd go for lessons,when I was quite young,I'd always go and just hang out in various hangars talking to whoever was around-and watching rebuilds,fueling,etc.

A long-time friend's father-in-law is the head pilot for the A-26 "Spirit of Waco",so I regularly hear of all the maintenance,and new parts that go on.

I was speaking about how I hope 'knee jerk' gov't organizations don't start trying to regulate all aspects of warbirds,as they're so wanton to do-THEY'LL see them as 60 yr. old aircraft,this is what I meant by "makes sense-they're 60+ y.o. planes".

Perhaps zardozid worded my thoughts more succintly:
"But I fear that the frequency of these accidents will prompt the "we know better then you" bunch to call for restriction's and termination on these types of "Air events" (air show & races)...

The golden age of flying was a deadly adventure with rich rewards and I for one would hate to see the "living tributes" to this age regulated out of existence...

I'm sure that many of these pilots (who died) would hate it if their life's legacy was that banning of something they loved so much. These pilots lost their lives sharing something with the public that they where fortunate enough to be a part of...and these men recognized the importance of keeping these "warbirds" (air events) available to the public...

It is a shared history that should not be locked away in a "Safe" box..."

I'm not an idiot,I know full well these planes have been extensively rebuilt,maintained and very little 'WW2' is left in them.I just don't want to see them legislated out of touch by our "Holier than thou" gov't.

You are free to smooth your unnecessarily ruffled feathers at any time.We're on the same side.

Taylortony
09-17-2007, 01:36 AM
Esel1964

I wasn't jumping down your throat, I appologise if it sounded like it was...........

I was just trying to contradict the "60 year old myth" and lack of safety / inspection of these aircraft..... because the way the net is structured these things appear when folks do a search, and in that sense myths get written into fact be the press and every other armchair expert looking for a reason to kill the warbird scene off for being unsafe.

People think 60 yrs old tssssk... ground them now, and do not think that the likes of something as simple as say a Cessna 150 started flying in 1959... thats 49 years ago and a lot of those are still on the go, but no one jumps up and down over the age of that fleet, and they do far more hours a year than a Spit.

Esel1964
09-17-2007, 02:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
Esel1964

I wasn't jumping down your throat, I appologise if it sounded like it was...........

I was just trying to contradict the "60 year old myth" and lack of safety / inspection of these aircraft..... because the way the net is structured these things appear when folks do a search, and in that sense myths get written into fact be the press and every other armchair expert looking for a reason to kill the warbird scene off for being unsafe.

People think 60 yrs old tssssk... ground them now, and do not think that the likes of something as simple as say a Cessna 150 started flying in 1959... thats 49 years ago and a lot of those are still on the go, but no one jumps up and down over the age of that fleet, and they do far more hours a year than a Spit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not a prob M8...nothing to apologize for really,we're cool as far as I'm concerned. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I fully agree with you that they're not 60 yr. old planes,other than a few pieces;I use sarcasm so much in my daily speech that it sometimes creeps into my writing and I think that's the case here;like stated earlier,I meant the 'powers that be' will see them as outdated,and try to regulate them.Let's hope not!

Old planes don't bother me a bit,I love them all and want them airborne as long as possible.
My dad used to borrow a friend's Cessna 120 (right after he was licensed) so he could do taildragger landings too;those rides as a small boy are still some of my best memories.

clepsydra
09-17-2007, 04:10 AM
Most people realise that these old warbirds are mainly restored to the point of very few original parts, but really can it be realistic to expect otherwise. What matters to me is that they are 60-70 year old designs, and have been restored with great dedication and accuracy to the originals. I was at Shoreham that day and was over the moon to see an ME109 there flying. It didn't matter that there was a Merlin pulling it along just the sight of it in the sky overcame all it's possible necessary shortcomings. The Hurricaine that went down was a beutiful example of how it's recent resoration had created a real sight to behold. I thank the pilot and all the pilots for risking their lives so that we can see these machines how they are meant to be.

It seems to of been a good weekend for gravity!!

Taylortony
09-17-2007, 05:49 AM
There is a film of the crash on the web, do not worry you do not see it go in, just the explosion and the remnants with the emergency services attending and the AAIB arriving, thought I would warn you first....... you do see part of the display up to then though.


http://www.videosift.com/video/Shoreham-UK-Airshow-WW2-...h-150907-Raw-Footage (http://www.videosift.com/video/Shoreham-UK-Airshow-WW2-Hurricane-Crash-150907-Raw-Footage)

micksaf
09-17-2007, 06:00 AM
Pilot was :

http://www.24dash.com/news/7/27556/index.htm

Rest In Peace

mortoma
09-17-2007, 08:39 PM
Bad news again....I think that they should simply do these demonstration a higher altitude. Yes, it would be harder for the audience to see and appreciate, but it would be tons safer. Not just for the pilot but also for those on the ground. A hurricane with an engine failure surely could be dead-sticked in, if it's high enough at the onset of failure. They dead-sticked a Boeing 767 in Canada once. If you can safely get a 767 in you can dead-stick any plane, with enough recovery height.