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Tvrdi
08-30-2005, 04:39 PM
in Warclouds...I was in P51, behind one Me109...1 sec burst in his rear fuselage area and hes Me109 was cutted in two pieces....so why we hav .50 cals whiners??? I wonder...can you enlighten me?

Tvrdi
08-30-2005, 04:39 PM
in Warclouds...I was in P51, behind one Me109...1 sec burst in his rear fuselage area and hes Me109 was cutted in two pieces....so why we hav .50 cals whiners??? I wonder...can you enlighten me?

MEGILE
08-30-2005, 04:48 PM
Well that's done it for me. 100% proofs.
Let's move on

faustnik
08-30-2005, 04:55 PM
Yes, I'm convinced, nice testing!

You know this one time, in Warclouds...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

HayateAce
08-30-2005, 05:12 PM
Hey, who dropped the tvrdi in my swimming pool?


http://www.adsofthepast.com/_borders/baby%20ruth-12-9-sm.jpg

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-30-2005, 05:20 PM
I tested the MG 151/20 before 4.0 and 4.01 and found them to be very effective. A 1/2 burst ripped a Spitfire into shreads. So why did we have so many 151 whiners? Simple...everyone gets lucky once in awhile. Its the consistancy that is the problem. And its not just 151s or .50s. There is a lack of consistancy for almost all weapons and damage models.

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-30-2005, 05:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by faustnik:
Yes, I'm convinced, nice testing!

You know this one time, in Warclouds...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LMAO

Udidtoo
08-30-2005, 05:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HayateAce:
Hey, who dropped the tvrdi in my swimming pool?


http://www.adsofthepast.com/_borders/baby%20ruth-12-9-sm.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's crude, lowbrow and pretty darned funny.


Tvird. Is there whiners about that still? You won't find any with a -HH-in their sig. Unless of course it dropped to page 2 in 15 minutes what with Hristoes and Chip starting a new backslapping and reach around thread approximately every 27&1/2 minutes We find that when lead and angle are properly estimated stuff blows up just fine with the .50.

Of course we could settle this in true GD forum form with a duel because as every reasonable person knows if you shoot me down that proves your right and if I shoot you down its because Oleg gave into someone's incessant whining and nerfed a blue plane in favor of a red plane. no more explanation required as we all know it by route now.

C'mon lad, if your going to troll at least show some flair.You've done better than this.

fordfan25
08-30-2005, 06:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I tested the MG 151/20 before 4.0 and 4.01 and found them to be very effective. A 1/2 burst ripped a Spitfire into shreads. So why did we have so many 151 whiners? Simple...everyone gets lucky once in awhile. Its the consistancy that is the problem. And its not just 151s or .50s. There is a lack of consistancy for almost all weapons and damage models. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


agreed

RedDeth
08-30-2005, 07:09 PM
ok tvrdi now jump in 20 more mustangs and report back after firing all ammo at enemy targets.

and provide tracks

Mackane1
08-30-2005, 07:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RedDeth:
ok tvrdi now jump in 20 more mustangs and report back after firing all ammo at enemy targets.

and provide tracks </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


http://home.si.rr.com/skywolf/********.jpg

p1ngu666
08-30-2005, 07:33 PM
can take surprisingly few rounds to down a aircraft, but ofcourse uve goto hit, which is hard wid teh 50cals.

on coop i flew recently i did user stat, amazed to see some guy in a 109 had hit air bullets 3, and 2 kills.

ive shot down 3 109s with 103 or something rounds hit in a p47, surprised id hit that little tho as i felt my gunnery was good... had fire 2000+ rounds http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif!

my average hit rate is about 10% roughly

p1ngu666
08-30-2005, 07:36 PM
hm, he has a 109 in his sig, perhaps he went to the secret luftwaffles gunnery school, a large % of those go on to become heros of teh luftwaffles. thus endowned with a experten aim, he can shot 10x as effectly as a normal allied flier http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

nakamura_kenji
08-30-2005, 08:15 PM
i find funny people argue ammo ^_^. i only ever fly japanese most but i try p-51 offline few time see what people moan about ^_^, hehe it so funny you all moan but not realise how lucky are have so much fire power plane i fly ki-61-I-ko and KI-43 both which have machine gun but are down on amount compare to american fighter, as result have learn be acurate and pick shot careful, found fly american plane not so much still have be more acurate than cannon fighter as need many hit if not hit anything important. i know this maybe sound odd but maybe it gunsight sauce problem with acuracy? i find when fly ki-43 and ki-61 i nice acurate but when try fly a6m or ki-100(find gunsigth hard to use than 61) acuracy far worse with machine gun. it also possible that gun are not hitting at zero range so peper target with bullet rather than all hit same place i guess ki-43,ki-61 not effect this as have gun in nose so atleast two hit resonable same place but with wing mount gun think more important.

i not much bother if american gun get change as only something i have find way around which usual do just like funny p-38 late everyone like fly

VW-IceFire
08-30-2005, 09:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
in Warclouds...I was in P51, behind one Me109...1 sec burst in his rear fuselage area and hes Me109 was cutted in two pieces....so why we hav .50 cals whiners??? I wonder...can you enlighten me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You can do anything with any weapon with a 1 time stastical probability. Now cut that 109 in two for 50 kills out of 100 and then we'll talk http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Badsight.
08-30-2005, 10:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
in Warclouds...I was in P51, behind one Me109...1 sec burst in his rear fuselage area and hes Me109 was cutted in two pieces....so why we hav .50 cals whiners??? I wonder...can you enlighten me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>you know this was a stupid thing to post ?

what is the real issue here , that you can get kills or whether the .50cal works correctly ?

fordfan25
08-30-2005, 11:59 PM
the issue is that there is an issue about something and the the thread starter has solved the issue but weather the issue was ever realy an issue is still an issue.

carguy_
08-31-2005, 12:08 AM
I still think MK108 is undermodelled http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

fordfan25
08-31-2005, 12:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by carguy_:
I still think MK108 is undermodelled http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

na just that your aim is porked http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

PBNA-Boosher
08-31-2005, 12:14 AM
I find the .50's very consistent, especially when fired at convergence range. On German planes at convergence range, a 1 second burst is often more than enough to cripple a bomber or down a fighter.

fordfan25
08-31-2005, 12:18 AM
yea i think there consistent also. consistent in the inconsistencey http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

arcadeace
08-31-2005, 12:21 AM
I wish RBJ was back. Trvdi has become a very lame imitator http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

fordfan25
08-31-2005, 12:24 AM
lol

Old_Canuck
08-31-2005, 12:45 AM
Where oh where have all the real trolls gone [sighs]

Tvrdi
08-31-2005, 01:16 AM
Im not surprised you all jumped on me, since .50 cal whining hysteria ....pitty I didnt recorded a track.....btw since you told me that Im a liar Ill try tonite in warclouds....this f****** time ill fly all the night in mustangs and I would post all the bloody tracks to end this whinings....regarding my sig.....yep Im flying mostly in blue planes now....but hell, im flyin also for the red side (some nights im on the red side in warclouds, --&gt;my love P47).....got it? you can say, at least for me that Im not one-side flyer/whiner..shhhh

faustnik
08-31-2005, 01:25 AM
This other time, on Warclouds...

Badsight.
08-31-2005, 01:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
I find the .50's very consistent, especially when fired at convergence range. On German planes at convergence range, a 1 second burst is often more than enough to cripple a bomber or down a fighter. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>how hard the .50cal hits isnt whats being discussed lately

all the .50 cal needs is to be DE-SYNCRONISED

testing shows the .50cal hit power is fine compared to how the Hispano & other cannons are working , this was done by Fritz-Gryphon in this patch

the Syncronisation isnt accurate to RL & is hindering how the planes with the M2 work in FB

carguy_
08-31-2005, 01:33 AM
Look dude!3rd Reich has two fighters:FW190 and Me109.

The FW190 has screwed up DM and it is too tough for all types of ammo!

.50cal tested on Me109 shows it is not undermodelled.

I`m sure desynchronisation would fix .50cal problem.

Nubarus
08-31-2005, 02:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I tested the MG 151/20 before 4.0 and 4.01 and found them to be very effective. A 1/2 burst ripped a Spitfire into shreads. So why did we have so many 151 whiners? Simple...everyone gets lucky once in awhile. Its the consistancy that is the problem. And its not just 151s or .50s. There is a lack of consistancy for almost all weapons and damage models. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was thinking the very same thing.

Funny that Tvrdi didn't comment back on this but just kept on rambling on to justify himself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Monson74
08-31-2005, 02:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Badsight.:
how hard the .50cal hits isnt whats being discussed lately

all the .50 cal needs is to be DE-SYNCRONISED

testing shows the .50cal hit power is fine compared to how the Hispano & other cannons are working , this was done by Fritz-Gryphon in this patch

the Syncronisation isnt accurate to RL & is hindering how the planes with the M2 work in FB </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly - the hitting power is pretty much ok I think - the trouble is hitting at all which is hard with these low ROF auto-shotguns.

nakamura_kenji
08-31-2005, 04:13 AM
dont tracer round have different ballestic(weight think) to other ammo so tracer can be hit but other round not? it something notice use ki-43 sometime get hit when my tracer round are not hitting so must be other bullet in belt

Tvrdi
08-31-2005, 04:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nubarus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I tested the MG 151/20 before 4.0 and 4.01 and found them to be very effective. A 1/2 burst ripped a Spitfire into shreads. So why did we have so many 151 whiners? Simple...everyone gets lucky once in awhile. Its the consistancy that is the problem. And its not just 151s or .50s. There is a lack of consistancy for almost all weapons and damage models. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was thinking the very same thing.

Funny that Tvrdi didn't comment back on this but just kept on rambling on to justify himself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


151s were too weak then and thats a fact..Oleg confirmed,....btw Badsight is on the right track...

FatBoyHK
08-31-2005, 04:18 AM
go ahead, Trvdi. We will be sitting right here to wait for your track.

Nubarus
08-31-2005, 05:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nubarus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I tested the MG 151/20 before 4.0 and 4.01 and found them to be very effective. A 1/2 burst ripped a Spitfire into shreads. So why did we have so many 151 whiners? Simple...everyone gets lucky once in awhile. Its the consistancy that is the problem. And its not just 151s or .50s. There is a lack of consistancy for almost all weapons and damage models. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was thinking the very same thing.

Funny that Tvrdi didn't comment back on this but just kept on rambling on to justify himself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


151s were too weak then and thats a fact..Oleg confirmed,....btw Badsight is on the right track... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't care, all I am saying is that the 151 never bothered me and I scored plenty of one pass kills with it.
So I guess my aim is better then yours.
I never said the weapon was correct or not, all I said was that I never had any issues with it.

And I am well aware of the tracer issue, I also never said the hitting power is the issue.

Your initial topic just states that the .50 has no issues and now all of a sudden you say that Badsight is on the right track?

Why did you even bother to start this topic if you already knew the problem with a lame text as this: "in Warclouds...I was in P51, behind one Me109...1 sec burst in his rear fuselage area and hes Me109 was cutted in two pieces....so why we hav .50 cals whiners??? I wonder...can you enlighten me?"

BTW, do the same with the 190, and record some tracks.

I ask this because I still see major issues with the 190 DM in regards to HMG fire.

Airmail109
08-31-2005, 05:13 AM
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5373/007psd9rp.jpg

F19_Olli72
08-31-2005, 05:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
151s were too weak then and thats a fact..Oleg confirmed,....btw Badsight is on the right track... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its funny how ppl always only refer to Oleg when it seems to support their own agenda, but leave out info http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oleg also confirmed:

#1 Oleg was against it and did not want to make this change.

#2 Some cannons who relied on AP ammo now are screwed up. All because the luftwhiners pressured Oleg into making this change.

"6. Was removed AP shells for the air combat. Antill we'll have in the next sim the adjustable belts. I was against of such change, but communtiy was pressed us too much to change the belts to only explosive shells (against fighters)." -Oleg Maddox

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/8371080943/p/13

End result: luftwhiners got their beloved minengeschoss. But do they whine about the poor performance of cannons that relied on AP?

Proof that luftwhiners dont want 'correct', only 'über' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

F19_Ob
08-31-2005, 06:04 AM
U know u are poking the hornets nest olli, dont u?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

MEGILE
08-31-2005, 06:04 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

And they say only reds can force changes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kuna15
08-31-2005, 06:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Badsight.:
how hard the .50cal hits isnt whats being discussed lately

all the .50 cal needs is to be DE-SYNCRONISED

testing shows the .50cal hit power is fine compared to how the Hispano & other cannons are working , this was done by Fritz-Gryphon in this patch

the Syncronisation isnt accurate to RL & is hindering how the planes with the M2 work in FB </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is the only serious issue with .50s currently. And should be fixed asap.

Everything began to be even more serious when someone realises that M-105 has de-synched .50s unlike ALL other M2 guns in game.

Monson74
08-31-2005, 08:12 AM
Let's just get the .50 desynced & all will be fine - the hitting power is all right.

faustnik
08-31-2005, 09:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F19_Olli72:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
151s were too weak then and thats a fact..Oleg confirmed,....btw Badsight is on the right track... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its funny how ppl always only refer to Oleg when it seems to support their own agenda, but leave out info http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oleg also confirmed:

#1 Oleg was against it and did not want to make this change.

#2 Some cannons who relied on AP ammo now are screwed up. All because the luftwhiners pressured Oleg into making this change.

"6. Was removed AP shells for the air combat. Antill we'll have in the next sim the adjustable belts. I was against of such change, but communtiy was pressed us too much to change the belts to only explosive shells (against fighters)." -Oleg Maddox

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/8371080943/p/13

End result: luftwhiners got their beloved minengeschoss. But do they whine about the poor performance of cannons that relied on AP?

Proof that luftwhiners dont want 'correct', only 'über' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Olli,

Trying to top Tvrdi in the sensless garbage department? Nice work!

BlackStar2000
08-31-2005, 10:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
in Warclouds...I was in P51, behind one Me109...1 sec burst in his rear fuselage area and hes Me109 was cutted in two pieces....so why we hav .50 cals whiners??? I wonder...can you enlighten me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aiming its a very good stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Vuco1
08-31-2005, 11:05 AM
Tvrdi, s obzirom na tvoju reputaciju na ovim forumima ova "I vozim ti ja tako kad ono..." prica ti stvarno ne pomaze. Jebiga, glupi debili. Slazem se sobom .50 su skroz dobri, samo triba znat pucat.

Ok, eto nisam izdrzao da prije ili poslje nesto ne izlajem na domacem.

Tvrdi
08-31-2005, 04:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BlackStar2000:
Aiming its a very good stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

very true indeed..tnx for reminding those ppl...


Vuco http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


regarding my testing....it was over very quickly....after few mins in warclouds I was almost killed by spit noobs, who wanted to kill my target, even if that means passing through me to reach an enemy plane http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif....then i was angry...disco...bye...let somebody else test..who hav enough nerves to fly with certain numbers of noobs on the red side....

crazyivan1970
08-31-2005, 04:34 PM
Are you trying to beat HayateAce in the fishing contest Tvrdi? I am sure you know what`s the grand prize for it, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

arcadeace
08-31-2005, 04:50 PM
Why threaten a ban Ivan? Let him fish, people are largely entertained, there€s no real animosity. If you don€t like it call him a fneb.

Tvrdi
08-31-2005, 05:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Are you trying to beat HayateAce in the fishing contest Tvrdi? I am sure you know what`s the grand prize for it, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Im an experimental rabbit for new criteria in banning? is it enough just to say a truth without insulting? I didnt insult anybody...btw Ivan and others...Im sick of all this whining in this forum, demanding for new planes, "fixes", features etc......it would be better for all if they stop posting here and just fly online and enjoy...I really dont care anymore about anything in this sim...its almost dead, be sure...anyway, majority would convert to BoB soon...Im sick of "Can you please...." " I think my favourite xxx plane is porked, but I think your great Oleg...,..."this plane is uber, I was there in WW2 I know its wrong.... jadajadajada" this sim (or other) isnt even close to the real thing and dont expect that in the near future...its a freakin game and play it like a f game....Even mighty Oleg doesnt have (and could not have) all the data for making ultra perfect and real sim....so whats the point....

arcadeace.."fneb"...this isnt for a ban? according to the new criteria --- it is....so you can entertain in other forum....

faustnik
08-31-2005, 05:29 PM
Tvrdi,

If you don't like the forum, leave.

But, don't away mad...



..just go away.

arcadeace
08-31-2005, 05:33 PM
So... I guess we won€t be seeing you anymore right mate?

New criteria? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

crazyivan1970
08-31-2005, 07:11 PM
Man, tough crowd http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

fordfan25
08-31-2005, 07:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Man, tough crowd http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


i thought it was funny http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif *ford wipes the brown off his nose* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

fordfan25
08-31-2005, 07:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Are you trying to beat HayateAce in the fishing contest Tvrdi? I am sure you know what`s the grand prize for it, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Im an experimental rabbit for new criteria in banning? is it enough just to say a truth without insulting? I didnt insult anybody...btw Ivan and others...Im sick of all this whining in this forum, demanding for new planes, "fixes", features etc......it would be better for all if they stop posting here and just fly online and enjoy...I really dont care anymore about anything in this sim...its almost dead, be sure...anyway, majority would convert to BoB soon...Im sick of "Can you please...." " I think my favourite xxx plane is porked, but I think your great Oleg...,..."this plane is uber, I was there in WW2 I know its wrong.... jadajadajada" this sim (or other) isnt even close to the real thing and dont expect that in the near future...its a freakin game and play it like a f game....Even mighty Oleg doesnt have (and could not have) all the data for making ultra perfect and real sim....so whats the point....

arcadeace.."fneb"...this isnt for a ban? according to the new criteria --- it is....so you can entertain in other forum.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


take you own advice. your complaing as well. maby we are sick of people complaing about us complaing. take your own advice and stop posting and just go play online and injoy the game

Badsight.
08-31-2005, 10:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F19_Olli72:
End result: luftwhiners got their beloved minengeschoss. But do they whine about the poor performance of cannons that relied on AP?

Proof that luftwhiners dont want 'correct', only 'über' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>HE works better than AP m8

& the P-63 was fitted with HE exclusive , was wrong the way it was , & it works better now than before http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

BlackStar2000
09-01-2005, 08:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BlackStar2000:
Aiming its a very good stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

very true indeed..tnx for reminding those ppl...


Vuco http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


regarding my testing....it was over very quickly....after few mins in warclouds I was almost killed by spit noobs, who wanted to kill my target, even if that means passing through me to reach an enemy plane http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif....then i was angry...disco...bye...let somebody else test..who hav enough nerves to fly with certain numbers of noobs on the red side.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Convergence is basic as aiming, its wise use both methods http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

geetarman
09-01-2005, 10:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
in Warclouds...I was in P51, behind one Me109...1 sec burst in his rear fuselage area and hes Me109 was cutted in two pieces....so why we hav .50 cals whiners??? I wonder...can you enlighten me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doh! See I knew it was just sour grapes!

Mackane1
09-01-2005, 10:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:


Im an experimental rabbit for new criteria in banning? is it enough just to say a truth without insulting? I didnt insult anybody...btw Ivan and others...Im sick of all this whining in this forum, demanding for new planes, "fixes", features etc......it would be better for all if they stop posting here and just fly online and enjoy...I really dont care anymore about anything in this sim...its almost dead, be sure...anyway, majority would convert to BoB soon... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then shut up and go away...

Professor_06
09-01-2005, 11:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HayateAce:
Hey, who dropped the tvrdi in my swimming pool?


http://www.adsofthepast.com/_borders/baby%20ruth-12-9-sm.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let me examine that under my microscope. I'll bet i'll find popcorn kernels and circus peanuts.

Jagdklinger
09-02-2005, 05:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by faustnik:
Tvrdi,

If you don't like the forum, leave.

But, don't away mad...



..just go away. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen, brother.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Originally posted by HayateAce:
Hey, who dropped the tvrdi in my swimming pool?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
...and I never thought I'd see the day when I agree with HayateArce.

blindpugh
09-02-2005, 06:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
in Warclouds...I was in P51, behind one Me109...1 sec burst in his rear fuselage area and hes Me109 was cutted in two pieces....so why we hav .50 cals whiners??? I wonder...can you enlighten me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You can do anything with any weapon with a 1 time stastical probability. Now cut that 109 in two for 50 kills out of 100 and then we'll talk http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well said m8

blindpugh
09-02-2005, 06:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vuco1:
Tvrdi, s obzirom na tvoju reputaciju na ovim forumima ova "I vozim ti ja tako kad ono..." prica ti stvarno ne pomaze. Jebiga, glupi debili. Slazem se sobom .50 su skroz dobri, samo triba znat pucat.

Ok, eto nisam izdrzao da prije ili poslje nesto ne izlajem na domacem. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>its very bad manners to speak in a language majority of people in forums do not understand m8

carguy_
09-02-2005, 06:17 AM
*sigh* Look Tvrdi,just relax.Banging your head over people that whine or demand stuff is pointless.By the way you should remember that people that whine for new flyables would gladly pay for an addon and if not then they should just shut up if they want stuff for free mine aswell stop complaining.

N00bs?The truth is that after 3.04 came out I`ve seen masses of new Bf109 experten that are so good that they do not need to work as a team.Although they are havin serious trouble flying Antons.I wonder why. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

As for red side heheh well,I am used to few former red pilots that turned blue and when I see`em fly I shake my head in dispare. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

BoB.It will take like two years for it to have the half of flyable planes featured nowNo matter how a game is great it will get bored if you do not find new entertainment in it.Also IMO less than 40% people will be able to run the game on good graphic settings once it gets released.

A big part will stay with IL2,be sure.

blindpugh
09-02-2005, 06:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tvrdi:
Im not surprised you all jumped on me, since .50 cal whining hysteria ....pitty I didnt recorded a track.....btw since you told me that Im a liar Ill try tonite in warclouds....this f****** time ill fly all the night in mustangs and I would post all the bloody tracks to end this whinings....regarding my sig.....yep Im flying mostly in blue planes now....but hell, im flyin also for the red side (some nights im on the red side in warclouds, --&gt;my love P47).....got it? you can say, at least for me that Im not one-side flyer/whiner..shhhh </div></BLOCKQUOTE>hmmmn it amazes me how many red flyers in patch 3.o4 now fly blue in 4.01 patch now if i could only find that uber 190!!!!!

blindpugh
09-02-2005, 06:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nakamura_kenji:
dont tracer round have different ballestic(weight think) to other ammo so tracer can be hit but other round not? it something notice use ki-43 sometime get hit when my tracer round are not hitting so must be other bullet in belt </div></BLOCKQUOTE>depends what distance your shooting from I think from anything under five hundred metres there wont be much differencein ballistics