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VFS-214_Hawk
08-07-2005, 05:43 PM
Is the MkI any different than the -1? If not, then why is the -1 not modeled?

Just wondering guys, not a troll!

What is the number on this -1?

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfields/vanuatu/turtle-bay/vmf214-turtlebay.jpg

Is this the same airplane?
http://www.nps.gov/wapa/indepth/extContent/usmc/pcn-190-003122-00/images/fig21.jpg
1stLt Rolland N. Rinabarger of VMF-214 in his early F4U-1 Corsair at Espiritu Santo in September 1943. Badly shot up by Zeros during an early mission to Kahili only two weeks after this photo was taken, Lt Rinabarger returned to the States for lengthy treatment. He was still in California when the war ended. The national insignia on his Corsair is outlined in red, a short-lived attempt to regain that color from the prewar marking after the red circle was deleted following Pearl Harbor to avoid confusion with the Japanese "meatball." Even this small amount of red was deceptive, however, and by mid-1944, it was gone from the insignia again. Note the large mud spray on the aft under fuselage.

VFS-214_Hawk
08-07-2005, 05:43 PM
Is the MkI any different than the -1? If not, then why is the -1 not modeled?

Just wondering guys, not a troll!

What is the number on this -1?

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfields/vanuatu/turtle-bay/vmf214-turtlebay.jpg

Is this the same airplane?
http://www.nps.gov/wapa/indepth/extContent/usmc/pcn-190-003122-00/images/fig21.jpg
1stLt Rolland N. Rinabarger of VMF-214 in his early F4U-1 Corsair at Espiritu Santo in September 1943. Badly shot up by Zeros during an early mission to Kahili only two weeks after this photo was taken, Lt Rinabarger returned to the States for lengthy treatment. He was still in California when the war ended. The national insignia on his Corsair is outlined in red, a short-lived attempt to regain that color from the prewar marking after the red circle was deleted following Pearl Harbor to avoid confusion with the Japanese "meatball." Even this small amount of red was deceptive, however, and by mid-1944, it was gone from the insignia again. Note the large mud spray on the aft under fuselage.

SeaNorris
08-07-2005, 05:47 PM
The Corsair Mk1 is the RN/RNZAF version iirc

VFS-214_Hawk
08-07-2005, 06:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaNorris:
The Corsair Mk1 is the RN/RNZAF version iirc </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

pooowy, I know that...my question again is what is the difference? If not any, which I dont think there is, why is the -1 not in the game? I know I can sub the MkI for the -1 but that just ain't kosker!!

IL2-chuter
08-07-2005, 06:33 PM
I believe there are only minor equipment differences to suit the British. I've wondered why they (the game developers) didn't have the -1 also . . . or why the game has comic book style American insignias . . . I know, a slippery slope . . . I'll stop. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

JFC_Rautaristi
08-07-2005, 06:36 PM
In the game we have F4U-1A,C,D and Corsair MkI and forward are only British versions of this plane. So to answer your question, no, there is no difference. Corsair MkI is F4U-1, the initial version of F4U (the birdcase model). F4U-1A and forward are improved versions with bubble canopy.

RNZAFJay
08-08-2005, 02:32 AM
Actually the F4U-1A is the US/RNZAF version and the Mk 1 is the RN. The reason being the British clipped thier Corsiars wings to fit in their small carrier bays. So there is a slight difference.

I only know this because I asked the same question a while back.

ps the plane below in my sig is a F4U-1A i believe.

Utchoud
08-08-2005, 03:32 AM
Hello,

I've found no difference between F4U-1 (no suffix) and Corsair Mk.I. The clipped wings were introduced with Corsair Mk.II and later. I was surprised that the in-game Corsair Mk.I has water injection (the F4U-1 had R-2800-8 engines without this device).

Actually, the Corsair Mk.I for the Fleet Air Arm was designated as F4U-1B by the US Navy, which didn't use them. But it seems there's no difference between F4U-1 and F4U-1B.

Utchoud

stansdds
08-08-2005, 03:50 AM
The MK I is the same as the F4U-1, why Oleg included the MK I and not also made the F4U-1 available is beyond me. Perhaps for the same reason he gave all versions of the Corsair a water injection boost system and center section pylons for carrying three drop tanks or bombs. Both are incorrect for the F4U-1 and -1A as well as their British equivalents. Water injection was installed on the last 573 -1A's produced, but never on -1's or MK I's. I am not absolutely positive, but I don't think the British used the MK I's in combat. It would seem that there was either a lack of knowledge or a lack of really caring about the details in the Pacific sim.

jpatrick62
08-08-2005, 12:53 PM
What is little talked about is the run of FG-1 fixed wing Corsairs put out in 1943 when the Corsair was not allowed on the US carriers. Presumably their performance would be better than the F2U-1 models since they would shed 500-700 lbs of weight in fixed wing mechanisms, tailhook assembly and extra bracing.

IL2-chuter
08-08-2005, 12:55 PM
There are a number of aircraft in the sim that aremn't completely authentic due to a lack of attention to detail. A couple of friends of mine are national level plastic model builders . . . (I think the term is "ANAL") . . . and, well, talk about pickin on the details . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif