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klcarroll
12-20-2007, 08:37 AM
As it is in most cases like this, it was Lust that got me into trouble: ....The Lust for a deck gun with a bore larger than 20mm.

I have been true and faithful to my TypeIID for over a year; .....but just last week, the desire for a big bore deck gun got the best of me. I was in base between missions, ...when a shiny, new TypeVIIC caught my eye: ....I thought to myself; "Hmmmm......, more torpedoes, a stern tube, ....and just look at that beautiful 88mm on the foredeck!!!!

I had not sailed in a TypeVII since "Vanilla" V1.4, ...and the memory was very vague.

So in a moment of weakness, .......I "upgraded". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Like all illicit relationships, there were a few delightful moments; .....Which were followed, almost immediately, by disappointment and misgivings.

The first "surprise" came at the dockside ceremony as I took command. I had a crack crew in my TypeIID, and they had all come with me: .....BUT WHO THE HELL ARE ALL THESE OTHER GUYS???? There were eighteen other guys standing in formation, and my "Number One" told me that we were still six men below standard complement!!! My entire patrol was going to be taken up approving duty rosters!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

My next "surprise" came as we worked our way out of Kiel: Compared to my TypeIID, ...this thing handles like a pig! Compared to what I was used to, it seemed like if you needed an emergency turn, you had better give the order the day before. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

......And it takes forever for this thing to loose way after ordering "All Stop"!! Even with ordering "All Back Emergency", you could never accuse it of "Stopping On A Dime". I could see that my favorite tactic of using dirty weather to sail surfaced into the midst of a convoy was going to be much more "exciting"! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

The only consolation in the face of these disappointments was that beautiful, sinister looking 88mm on the foredeck.

We were off the coast of Norway, headed for "Tommyland", when the sonar man reported a sound contact with a merchant. I though to myself; "Kewl!!! .....I get to play with my new deck gun!!!" I surfaced 3000 meters from a Norwegian Large Cargo Vessel, and ordered the crew to the gun. I myself took the sighting position.

Horror!!! ....The "GWX Realistic" level of gun stabilization (essentially none) made shooting at this range a "by-guess-and-by-golly" operation! Shells flew EVERYWHERE! I don't think that some of them even hit Planet Earth! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

I was crushed: ......My new 88mm didn't have a practical range that was significantly longer than the 20mm twins I was used to!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif .......I torpedoed the Norwegian, ...and we continued on our way.

We were coming up on the Shetland Islands, when the sonar guy reported a sound contact with a warship: After a few minutes, it became obvious that while the DD was closing, ...it wasn't headed directly towards us. He was clearly just on his way between "Point A" and "Point B".

Since I didn't want Tommy to know that we were in the area, I decided to use my standard tactic of "Order ALL STOP; ....And make like a hole in the water". This ALWAYS worked with the TypeIID.

The projected course of the DD had him passing us with about 3500 meters to spare. He continued on his course until we were squarely on his port beam, ...and then suddenly cranked it up to 28 knots, turned 90 degrees, and headed straight for us!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I was so shocked that I actually double checked to make sure that I hadn't forgotten to submerge!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I needed to turn through about 50 degrees in order to fire a stern shot with any kind of decent solution; .....So I ordered "Ahead Emergency", and "Hard Right Rudder": ......Only to be immediately reminded that this boat couldn't turn like my TypeIID.

By the time we got the shot lined up, the DD was only 900 meters behind us, and doing almost 30 knots! I ordered "Fire", "Crash Dive", and "Hard Left Rudder" simultaneously, and a mere 15 seconds later we were treated to the sound of a torpedo impact. The sonar guy reported that he could no longer hear the DD's screws.

I cancelled the "Dive" order, and ordered us back to periscope depth. (Not a long trip, as we had only managed to dive about 10 meters so far!) The periscope treated me to a view of a Tribal Class DD standing on her nose, headed for the bottom.

That was the last straw!! ......We headed back to Kiel; ....And I gave the boat back to the Base Commander with the suggestion that he make it into a Museum Boat. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

I then got my TypeIID back: ....With the solemn oath that I would never be tempted again!! http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif


klcarroll

klcarroll
12-20-2007, 08:37 AM
As it is in most cases like this, it was Lust that got me into trouble: ....The Lust for a deck gun with a bore larger than 20mm.

I have been true and faithful to my TypeIID for over a year; .....but just last week, the desire for a big bore deck gun got the best of me. I was in base between missions, ...when a shiny, new TypeVIIC caught my eye: ....I thought to myself; "Hmmmm......, more torpedoes, a stern tube, ....and just look at that beautiful 88mm on the foredeck!!!!

I had not sailed in a TypeVII since "Vanilla" V1.4, ...and the memory was very vague.

So in a moment of weakness, .......I "upgraded". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Like all illicit relationships, there were a few delightful moments; .....Which were followed, almost immediately, by disappointment and misgivings.

The first "surprise" came at the dockside ceremony as I took command. I had a crack crew in my TypeIID, and they had all come with me: .....BUT WHO THE HELL ARE ALL THESE OTHER GUYS???? There were eighteen other guys standing in formation, and my "Number One" told me that we were still six men below standard complement!!! My entire patrol was going to be taken up approving duty rosters!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

My next "surprise" came as we worked our way out of Kiel: Compared to my TypeIID, ...this thing handles like a pig! Compared to what I was used to, it seemed like if you needed an emergency turn, you had better give the order the day before. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

......And it takes forever for this thing to loose way after ordering "All Stop"!! Even with ordering "All Back Emergency", you could never accuse it of "Stopping On A Dime". I could see that my favorite tactic of using dirty weather to sail surfaced into the midst of a convoy was going to be much more "exciting"! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

The only consolation in the face of these disappointments was that beautiful, sinister looking 88mm on the foredeck.

We were off the coast of Norway, headed for "Tommyland", when the sonar man reported a sound contact with a merchant. I though to myself; "Kewl!!! .....I get to play with my new deck gun!!!" I surfaced 3000 meters from a Norwegian Large Cargo Vessel, and ordered the crew to the gun. I myself took the sighting position.

Horror!!! ....The "GWX Realistic" level of gun stabilization (essentially none) made shooting at this range a "by-guess-and-by-golly" operation! Shells flew EVERYWHERE! I don't think that some of them even hit Planet Earth! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

I was crushed: ......My new 88mm didn't have a practical range that was significantly longer than the 20mm twins I was used to!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif .......I torpedoed the Norwegian, ...and we continued on our way.

We were coming up on the Shetland Islands, when the sonar guy reported a sound contact with a warship: After a few minutes, it became obvious that while the DD was closing, ...it wasn't headed directly towards us. He was clearly just on his way between "Point A" and "Point B".

Since I didn't want Tommy to know that we were in the area, I decided to use my standard tactic of "Order ALL STOP; ....And make like a hole in the water". This ALWAYS worked with the TypeIID.

The projected course of the DD had him passing us with about 3500 meters to spare. He continued on his course until we were squarely on his port beam, ...and then suddenly cranked it up to 28 knots, turned 90 degrees, and headed straight for us!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I was so shocked that I actually double checked to make sure that I hadn't forgotten to submerge!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I needed to turn through about 50 degrees in order to fire a stern shot with any kind of decent solution; .....So I ordered "Ahead Emergency", and "Hard Right Rudder": ......Only to be immediately reminded that this boat couldn't turn like my TypeIID.

By the time we got the shot lined up, the DD was only 900 meters behind us, and doing almost 30 knots! I ordered "Fire", "Crash Dive", and "Hard Left Rudder" simultaneously, and a mere 15 seconds later we were treated to the sound of a torpedo impact. The sonar guy reported that he could no longer hear the DD's screws.

I cancelled the "Dive" order, and ordered us back to periscope depth. (Not a long trip, as we had only managed to dive about 10 meters so far!) The periscope treated me to a view of a Tribal Class DD standing on her nose, headed for the bottom.

That was the last straw!! ......We headed back to Kiel; ....And I gave the boat back to the Base Commander with the suggestion that he make it into a Museum Boat. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

I then got my TypeIID back: ....With the solemn oath that I would never be tempted again!! http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif


klcarroll

CapZap1970
12-20-2007, 10:37 AM
Wait until you try a n IX, in that case you will be guilty not only of infidelity, but also of poligamy...
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CapZap

Realjambo
12-20-2007, 10:38 AM
Great story Kl! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The_Silent_O
12-20-2007, 12:07 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Say two Hail Marys and three Our Fathers...and NEVER do it again! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Just goes to show you ... It's not how big it is, but how you use it! (Your U-boat, of course)

Subject_rod
12-20-2007, 12:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
...He continued on his course until we were squarely on his port beam, ...and then suddenly cranked it up to 28 knots, turned 90 degrees, and headed straight for us!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>There's no better way to stay young! http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z15/subject_rod/smilies/pleased2.gif

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z15/subject_rod/smilies/scratch.gif or grow very old very fast...

But seriously, from my beginning to until very recently my one and only "love" was the type VIIB. Rolls-Royce of the Sea! http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z15/subject_rod/smilies/rock.gif
Never understood when others talked of IX, VIIC, XXI (or II's for that matter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif ) as VIIB gave me everything I could ever ask for in a sub. Sleek, fast, beautiful, loads of torps, nice gun - she had it all!

Then I wanted to just try out a type IXD2 for my last and final career in GWX 1.03... what a chock! Big, fat, slow and roomy - very roomy! Still remember when we had finished our first convoy attack and I did the inventory list. Good Lord, we still had more torps, than I ever had before http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif And the 105mm deckgun! Sigh.

It'll be hard to depart from her in GWX 2, but as I can't get her until -43, I plan to start as a rookie in 39 in a type II... hope I won't catch the same fever as klcarroll though...

Thanks for the story http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Celeon999
12-20-2007, 12:28 PM
Now that Celeon has become a internet website certified http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif priest of the Teutonic Order http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif he can take your confession the classic teutonic way if you want.


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So....what tool of forgiveness do you prefer my son ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Just a few whips and you will be forgiven your infidelity my sheep. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Espadon-Morges.jpg/145px-Espadon-Morges.jpg http://www.sportwaffen-schneider.de/images/Morgenstern2k71227.jpg

Or maybe ?...

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MarkSynthesis
12-20-2007, 12:33 PM
To take a quote from another Kaleun's signature,

"A Type VII captain says, 'I might be able to reach that area, and I may sink those targets', while a Type IX captain says, 'I WILL reach the area, and I'll sink all the targets'."

What does a Type II captain say? Probably something to the effect of, "Whoa...there's water over there? I could have sworn the world was flat beyond the horizon!"

I'm just kidding, of course, but I could never give up the sheer killing power and range of the Type IX--and while I'm more likely to get into trouble, I'm far more likely to get out of that, with a much lower depth and a sturdier hull (even in GWX, I've survived hits from a DD--where if I were in a Type II, a single shell would have sent me to the bottom in a hurry!)

I'm even a sucker for the Type IXD-2, but that's because I love to travel. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Now, if only more of the SHIII world were rendered, I could deliver much-needed aircraft parts to Japan.

klcarroll
12-20-2007, 02:01 PM
All Type Nine jockeys sing the same song about sailing halfway around the world and having more torpedoes than God!

I think the Type Two driver has a better "read" on things! .....Sure, .....you guys can sail to the other side of the Atlantic to do your hunting, but WHY?

Think about it, .....and ask yourself: "Just where are the convoys going??"

To England, of course!! Why should I sail all the way to the other side, when the convoys are willing to do all that time consuming hard work, and meet me here???

....And those long cruises aren't exactly "vacation quality"! Haven't you guys ever noticed how bad you all start to smell after two weeks at sea??? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

On a Type Two, our patrols are short, concise sorties! Heck! ....The bananas hanging from the observation scope don't even have a chance to turn brown!!

We head out to our area, ....deliver "The Package", ....and we're back in base in time for drinks at the Officer's Club! ......It's a lot like being in the Luftwaffe: .....Except we like girls! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Nope! .....You guys can keep your "Epic Voyages": .....They'll make a great movie someday.

Meanwhile, ...the Type Two drivers will continue to snatch Tommy's "goodies" right out of his waiting hands! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif


klcarroll

Kaleun1961
12-20-2007, 02:43 PM
Of course, the real reason for sailing those great distances was the pesky mosquito hordes of aircraft the Allies were eventually able to throw up into the air around England. It got so that the only place free of them was the "Atlantic Gap." Until the advent of the escort carrier.

Nice read, though. That's what I like about this game and this forum. You have all sorts of play style and their proponents.

MarkSynthesis
12-20-2007, 04:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
Nope! .....You guys can keep your "Epic Voyages": .....They'll make a great movie someday.

Meanwhile, ...the Type Two drivers will continue to snatch Tommy's "goodies" right out of his waiting hands! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, if you want to start with the mocking...

And you Type II jockies can keep your constant, unending fear of Allied air attack that comes with operating the Type II's effective range off the coast of the British Isles. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Sure, you can dive fast....but I prefer not having to dive four times an hour, every hour, for an entire patrol. Electric engines aren't that fast, after all.

Enjoy operating in the shadow of the RAF in 1944 with your nonexistent AA gun. I'll enjoy the safety of the Mid-Atlantic, being able to destroy every big ship in a convoy, as oppose to one or two.

Every Type II jockey seems to sing the same song about not needing extra torpedoes--funny, considering you don't have a deck gun either, and you're too small to ram anything. If I wanted to turn on a dime, I wouldn't be in a submarine, I'd be in a Torpedo Boat. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

klcarroll
12-20-2007, 05:06 PM
MarkSynthesis;

Well, ...first of all, I was mocking "Tommy". not you!

But since you bring up those "weak sisters" in the RAF, .....I have to say; "Who cares about them???"

Seventy-five percent of the time, the weather around the UK is too lousy for them to fly, and I can run on the surface all day long. On the occasional "good" days, a Type Two is still a really small target, ....and not as helpless as you make it sound!

I'm currently carrying two 20mm twins, and we have given a good account of ourselves against the RAF. These same 20mm guns are also effective against small merchants, ....IF you have "tweaked" your 20mm values up to Real World levels.

....And "turning on a dime" is ALWAYS a virtue!

I can't sink a DD with the 20mms, but there have been several occasions when I have used my superior turning capabilities to shoot away everything on the DD's deck that was even vaguely offensive!

klcarroll

MarkSynthesis
12-20-2007, 05:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Seventy-five percent of the time, the weather around the UK is too lousy for them to fly, and I can run on the surface all day long. On the occasional "good" days, a Type Two is still a really small target, ....and not as helpless as you make it sound! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In 1944 to 1945? Running along the surface all day? Geeze, I wish I was that lucky--I've never been that lucky in any boat, frankly. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

PhantomKira
12-20-2007, 09:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> my standard tactic of "Order ALL STOP; ....And make like a hole in the water </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif and SOOOO true.

2. I've found that with a type VII I can get deep enough to do it more effectively. I just can't seem to get deep enough to be "comfortable" in a type II. As Mush Morton said "Head deep and keep 'em astern."

Messervy
12-21-2007, 12:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
I can't sink a DD with the 20mms, but there have been several occasions when I have used my superior turning capabilities to shoot away everything on the DD's deck that was even vaguely offensive! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So the idea is not to sink them but to strip them.
By 1945 you'll have an ocean full of embarrased DDs not returning to port. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

hueywolf123
12-21-2007, 02:11 AM
I tried an IXB once, after being in a type VIIB for ages. They sent me to Canada, all was smooth until we had to crash dive to evade air craft, and thanks the long dive time - got hammered.
We only just survived, then upon reaching Sydney, I stupidly had us do a harbour raid.
Once again taking another hammering, we escaped back into the Atlantic only to be found by a horde of angry DD's intent on our demise.
They got what they wanted, and I had to begin a new career.
I'll take the VIIB any day, as a good compromise between the IXB and the IID.

wh1skea
12-21-2007, 07:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
We head out to our area, ....deliver "The Package", ....and we're back in base in time for drinks at the Officer's Club! ......It's a lot like being in the Luftwaffe: .....Except we like girls! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Subject_rod
12-21-2007, 07:34 AM
We smell? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Au contraire, we have this wonderful, mild scent of salty water, sweat, diesel and oil mixed with something undefineable, that makes every woman soft in her knees when we take her in our arms http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z15/subject_rod/smilies/pleased2.gif