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raaaid
11-30-2005, 06:17 AM
it combines flat screen technology with 3d glasses technology and 6dof

you squeaze your head underneath an spheric screen, so you see the sphere from inside

theres an image for each eye and each eye is the center of a virtual sphere

if you move your head to the right wall of the sphere the righ wing will shrink and the left increase size but you move in the virtual world

if you move your head 10 cm to the right you can move your head 10 cm in the virtual world of 10 km with which it will look like you have an elastic neck

where can i get one of this to play bob with?

maybe it depends on the right person reading this thread if someday i can get it or not

two years prior to anybody knowing of 6dof i made a post saying i would wait for trackir to include more degrees of freedom

now i hope someone intelligent reads this and realize that the future of virtual reality are not glasses but spheric screesns and hopefully we can play the next game that comes after bob with this awesome screen and sorround sound

raaaid
11-30-2005, 06:17 AM
it combines flat screen technology with 3d glasses technology and 6dof

you squeaze your head underneath an spheric screen, so you see the sphere from inside

theres an image for each eye and each eye is the center of a virtual sphere

if you move your head to the right wall of the sphere the righ wing will shrink and the left increase size but you move in the virtual world

if you move your head 10 cm to the right you can move your head 10 cm in the virtual world of 10 km with which it will look like you have an elastic neck

where can i get one of this to play bob with?

maybe it depends on the right person reading this thread if someday i can get it or not

two years prior to anybody knowing of 6dof i made a post saying i would wait for trackir to include more degrees of freedom

now i hope someone intelligent reads this and realize that the future of virtual reality are not glasses but spheric screesns and hopefully we can play the next game that comes after bob with this awesome screen and sorround sound

raaaid
11-30-2005, 07:20 AM
it would be as real as reality:

you would see objects the right size no zoom needed

you would have lateral view

you would have depth perception

you could move within the sphere as if it was a real cockpit

in fact it works the same way you percieve reality, with high resolution you wouldnt be able to tell if you are in a plane cockpit or not

LEBillfish
11-30-2005, 07:23 AM
http://www.elumens.com/

raaaid
11-30-2005, 07:35 AM
they said they patented it, its absurd all they offer is planetarium technology

my idea is patentable because it improves that dome:

the domes only have lateral view, they dont have real depth perception, they dont offer to move within the sphere,things distorsionate if you move from the exact center, in fact you cant have both eyes at the same time in the exact center

my idea is much more thought trough than this simple old planetarium domes

besides this domes require expensive proyectors my idea only requires 3/4*3.14*radius*radius*radius of flat screen trackir and 3d glasses

you know why its perfect virtual reality? because reality works this way, is a projection on two spheric screens, the eyes

ruf9ii
11-30-2005, 07:59 AM
dude, u gotta lay off the weeed a little bit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

hehe, it would be a cool thing to have though...

LEXX_Luthor
11-30-2005, 08:02 AM
I always said Dome houses were the best for weather. Just make the whole house a game studio.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">lay off the weeed a little bit </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
weeeid

stathem
11-30-2005, 08:03 AM
A long time ago now I heard that the USAAF was working on VR glasses that 'painted' the image directly onto your retina with Lasers.

That's what I'm waiting for.

LEXX_Luthor
11-30-2005, 11:09 AM
statem:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I heard that the USAAF was working on VR glasses that 'painted' the image directly onto your retina with Lasers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Air Force gets phasers set for stun ~&gt; http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28019

Star Trek technology from the Stargate -- By Nick Farrell: Wednesday 30 November 2005, 06:49

THE US Air Force is kitting out its soldiers with phasers as a non-lethal method for controlling crowds.

Designed by the Air Force Research Laboratory's Directed Energy Directorate, the Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response, (yeah it spells PhaSR) shoots a low-power beam of laser light that blinds an individual.

It is about the size of an M60 machine gun and according to Stars and Stripes, it has the effect to walking out from a dark area into bright sunlight.

It is not exactly a Star Trek weapon suitable for away missions either. According to Stars and Stripes, it is years years away from deployment and you have to be a good shot to hit a target in the eyes. It can only take out one target at a time. You are probably better off with a water cannon.

More here. µ </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

VF51_Flatspin
11-30-2005, 11:27 AM
It seems you have a lot of these great ideas...are you a millionaire yet?

LEBillfish
11-30-2005, 11:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Air Force gets phasers set for stun ~&gt; http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28019

Star Trek technology from the Stargate -- By Nick Farrell: Wednesday 30 November 2005, 06:49

THE US Air Force is kitting out its soldiers with phasers as a non-lethal method for controlling crowds.

Designed by the Air Force Research Laboratory's Directed Energy Directorate, the Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response, (yeah it spells PhaSR) shoots a low-power beam of laser light that blinds an individual.

It is about the size of an M60 machine gun and according to Stars and Stripes, it has the effect to walking out from a dark area into bright sunlight.

It is not exactly a Star Trek weapon suitable for away missions either. According to Stars and Stripes, it is years years away from deployment and you have to be a good shot to hit a target in the eyes. It can only take out one target at a time. You are probably better off with a water cannon.

More here. µ </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif



How typical.............A 20# non-lethal weapon thats huge and takes both hands probably costing $100,000.00 each.............

To replace a $5 Halogen Mag Light that weighs a pound.

Good plan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.......

"why use a hand grenade when you can nuke em http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif"

stathem
11-30-2005, 12:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
statem:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I heard that the USAAF was working on VR glasses that 'painted' the image directly onto your retina with Lasers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Air Force gets phasers set for stun ~&gt; http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28019

Star Trek technology from the Stargate -- By Nick Farrell: Wednesday 30 November 2005, 06:49

THE US Air Force is kitting out its soldiers with phasers as a non-lethal method for controlling crowds.

Designed by the Air Force Research Laboratory's Directed Energy Directorate, the Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response, (yeah it spells PhaSR) shoots a low-power beam of laser light that blinds an individual.

It is about the size of an M60 machine gun and according to Stars and Stripes, it has the effect to walking out from a dark area into bright sunlight.

It is not exactly a Star Trek weapon suitable for away missions either. According to Stars and Stripes, it is years years away from deployment and you have to be a good shot to hit a target in the eyes. It can only take out one target at a time. You are probably better off with a water cannon.

More here. µ </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Luthor, that wasn't what I was talking about... these were VR glasses. Back when VR was first mooted, probably early to mid 90's. Maybe my memory is failing me, it was a long time ago, before the non-lethal weapon search started.

stathem
11-30-2005, 12:37 PM
Quick google, not got time to read it now

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/29/1213254&tid=196 (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/29/1213254&amp;tid=196)

better

http://www.hitl.washington.edu/publications/r-98-21/

GAU-8
11-30-2005, 02:13 PM
raaaid. your thinking, and mine on THIS subject are pretty close. i can see it too, in the near future. im in a rush to go to work, so maybe i didnt understand the entire post, but

if your head is inside the dome, where is the room to project the image? i prolly missed it just glancing tru.

|CoB|_Spectre
11-30-2005, 02:39 PM
I bought my first Pentium-powered Windows 95 machine in December of that year. The first program I bought to run on it was EF2000 and, even by today's standards, the sim holds its head high. One thing it had was native support for two different VR headsets, with the better model retailing then at something like $800 US. Looking down the road from the 1995 perspective, I would have expected by 2005 we'd all be interacting with the virtual world with VR headsets, but they have "virtually" disappeared from the consumer market. No doubt paying $800 for a somewhat immature technology that imaged 320x200 pixel resolution, compared with 17-inch 800x600 monitors for less than half that price, played a big part in its disappearance. Still, it's a shame. Envisioning making a head-on pass with another plane and snapping your head around, looking over your shoulder to keep the bandit in sight is just what we need today albeit with improvements in display quality and head movement tracking. Coupled with force feedback stick and rudder pedals, along with a seat cushion that inflates and deflates to simulate G's in two axes, that would be the stuff!

LEXX_Luthor
11-30-2005, 03:24 PM
stathem:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Luthor, that wasn't what I was talking about... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ya I didn't explain myself. I Apologize to you. I had just read that INQ Laser article and then saw your post. I could not help it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I am thinking of how some may go blind by the self advertised "non lethal" temporary blinding laser that must be aimed directly at the eyes.

Te_Vigo
11-30-2005, 11:52 PM
I'll wait for the Halo-Deck
(it won't be that far behind)

polak5
12-01-2005, 12:38 AM
"Its 180 degree field of view increases the amount of information you can visualize and comprehend."


can the game do that dough...

ploughman
12-01-2005, 10:31 AM
Check this out.

http://www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4833/

Not sure which room I'd put that in. Nice spandex suit too.

tomtheyak
12-01-2005, 04:27 PM
I'm with Spectre on this one! where da hll did VR headsets go? And why don't we have some wicked 1024x768 capable now - seems odd considering they were around 10 years ago.

Ona related note I did see something cool a couple of years ago on a program we used to have in the UK called 'Tomorrows World'; basically it was a transducer that, worn like a hearing aid, directed bursts of ultrasound at the inner ear thus fooling it in to believing it was orientating in a completely different manner than reality! i believe it was hooked up to a video of a rollercoaster and some kids tested it out saying it was quite convincing!

I would imagine that the only trouble with headsets or videodomes would be the whole orientation vs. inner ear thing... I mean we get so much informayion about our attitude (physical) and movement from the eyes that to sit in one of those gizmos for too long might induce motion sickness!!

raaaid
12-02-2005, 03:16 AM
gogles have no future because they ignore the movement of the eye even laser ones

images are not projected they use flat screen tech

it doesnt have to be an sphere it can be a cube

the key is to generate an image for each eye and that only that eye sees it

is this last thing posible?

Schlagloch
12-02-2005, 04:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I'm with Spectre on this one! where da hll did VR headsets go? And why don't we have some wicked 1024x768 capable now - seems odd considering they were around 10 years ago.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What about this one?
http://www.emagin.com/html/consumer_products.htm